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ayushiteru 28th December 2010 05:03 AM

ayu´s lips bigger this year you have to recognize
 
ok watching the pvs (specially in love song and crossroad) ...is very visible that´s ayu´s lips are bigger.... I think that we can finally say that she has collagen.....that´s sad...she´s loosing her identity

freedreamer 28th December 2010 05:06 AM

somehow she looks normal in the lives and makingoffshoots videos though ..

Cherry Dynamite 28th December 2010 05:08 AM

I don't know but I don't think it's collagen lol. I can't say for sure, but I think it's just the way they put lipstick/gloss on her and it can have that effect? I'm not sure though.

NintendoHTF1242 28th December 2010 05:10 AM

Lip gloss + Duck lips pose = ??

Larisa-chan 28th December 2010 05:21 AM

Something about her face in general has been odd this year. But, like, I don't know how to explain it, but her cheeks and chin seem more pronounced and it really does look like she has collagen injections x.x

(Honestly, though, with her face, it's probably just due to her aging lol Smoking cigarettes/drinking too probably don't help either)

lumieregrl 28th December 2010 05:22 AM

I think it's the way of applying lip gloss plus photoshop because I've noticed this...look on other women who do not have botox or collagen injections.

pommy48 28th December 2010 05:28 AM

It's just the way the makeup looks

I think they outline her lips with lip liner now~

Queen Bee 28th December 2010 05:33 AM

I'm surprised that this is even being brought up since someone asked Ayu about it on twitter and she flat out said she didn't have time for any kind of procedure. I'm going to try and find the tweet.

Edit: Well the search options keeps failing on me.

love in music 28th December 2010 05:53 AM

it's the way her make-up is done. I was watching old lives from 2004 the other day and her lips looked just as big with the lipstick/gloss she had. never underestimate the power of make-up, especially with asians.. they have so many tricks to make their eyes/lips appear bigger without surgery it's unreal.

about her losing her identity.. I don't think so. have you even read the lyrics to any of the songs on her new album?

truehappiness 28th December 2010 06:04 AM

They've just changed the way they do her makeup. It's really subtle sometimes, but it makes a big difference. From year to year, the way they have done her makeup has changed and it has changed her appearance a lot.

Like nowadays they seem to use a lot of eyeliner and mascara along with fake lashes... they used to not use so many, but nowadays they're almost always there. Lip plumper / lip gloss also seems to be used a lot more often and because she seems to pout more, her lips seem larger.

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Smoking cigarettes/drinking too probably don't help either
Considering that she's stopped drinking insanely and has been on a "MY VOICE IS SO IMPORTANT" craze with her health products/humidifiers/etc... I think she stopped smoking at some point in 2004 or 2005 and only drinks casually nowadays.

sanzo2011 28th December 2010 06:07 AM

Yes and it's so annoying to watch her new look in Pv and lives !~~!

Neo Daydream 28th December 2010 06:08 AM

age + make-up (possibly collagen) = weird lips

Sirea 28th December 2010 06:12 AM

Let me tell you. I have a serious pet peeve about my lips. I always think they're too small or too weird shaped or too dark or too this or too that. Some days it drives me insane. So I have taken to the use of lip plumper and different shades of lip gloss, and it does make a difference, especially if used liberally.

The only thing Ayu should watch for is that, with most lip plumper, it uses cinnamon which actually irritates the lips, causing them to swell and "plump". Excessive use of lip plumper can cause serious irritation and harsh reactions in and around the lips... so I hope this doesn't happen to her.

panda♥ 28th December 2010 06:14 AM

iirc, she had her wisdom teeth removed around the filming of crossroad, so it's no wonder why her lips appeared bigger; her mouth was probably completely swollen, not to mention makeup. :laugh

emi♡ 28th December 2010 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Larisa-chan (Post 2594562)
Something about her face in general has been odd this year. But, like, I don't know how to explain it, but her cheeks and chin seem more pronounced and it really does look like she has collagen injections x.x

(Honestly, though, with her face, it's probably just due to her aging lol Smoking cigarettes/drinking too probably don't help either)

me agrees.

She's just following the trends anyway...

you know who's popular right now?

Girls with huge pouty lips, like RINKA, Kana, and Chikako.

She could have had collagen injections though...recovery time is not a problem with those at all. She could have gotten them while she had her wisdom teeth pulled lol

BUT that doesn't mean you should underestimate the power of make up combined with photoshop, because...you can seriously change ANYTHING with that combination.

AYUCREA 28th December 2010 06:20 AM

It's a trend..
make up makes her lip bigger
her lip looks normal in every single live this yesr

Andali 28th December 2010 06:27 AM

I highly doubt she smokes. But I think she's lost weight not that she needs to at all. If you lose too much it goes from your face as well. I know that for a fact

jbrat2219 28th December 2010 06:27 AM

I'd say just make up and aging. And of course, lip plumper.

I'm not one of those people who think Ayu would never get collagen but I think the reasons I listed are more likely considering the several pictures of her without make up recently show her natural self and I don't see any signs of collagen, not that I'd know what they look like to be honest xD;

Sirea 28th December 2010 06:46 AM

Also, just looking at pictures of her in the past shows that her love of huge lips is nothing new.

If I may:

2006: http://www.greatful-days.net/reflect...p?image_id=989
Infamous A-BEST 2 from 2007: http://www.greatful-days.net/reflect...?image_id=2030
GUILTY cover, 2008: http://stylejapan.files.wordpress.co.../12/guilty.jpg
Undated, but it's nothing recent for sure http://7hotasiangirls.com/d/34973-2/...llery+_21_.jpg

So those are just a few things I found in like 5 minutes. I really think that either a) it's just something she's always gone in and out of being into, or b) her lips are naturally bigger and her makeup artists want to show them off.

I don't really think this is collagen because her lips don't ALWAYS look like that. Just sayin'.

~*Mabushii*~ 28th December 2010 07:05 AM

She's making the duck face more, and she looks like she's lost some weight. The crying part of Love Song I swear she looks like this one Drag Queen... No offense meant to Ayu (more so because I do happen to love the look of that particular drag queen..), but they have the same really high cheekbones that looked way too exaggerated for me n that scene..

That and there are lip glosses and lip sticks MEANT to make your lips look more plump. I think she's just using them a lot lately. :P

jbrat2219 28th December 2010 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sirea (Post 2594617)
Also, just looking at pictures of her in the past shows that her love of huge lips is nothing new.

If I may:

2006: http://www.greatful-days.net/reflect...p?image_id=989
Infamous A-BEST 2 from 2007: http://www.greatful-days.net/reflect...?image_id=2030
GUILTY cover, 2008: http://stylejapan.files.wordpress.co.../12/guilty.jpg
Undated, but it's nothing recent for sure http://7hotasiangirls.com/d/34973-2/...llery+_21_.jpg

So those are just a few things I found in like 5 minutes. I really think that either a) it's just something she's always gone in and out of being into, or b) her lips are naturally bigger and her makeup artists want to show them off.

I don't really think this is collagen because her lips don't ALWAYS look like that. Just sayin'.

I know the A BEST 2 covers weren't everyone's cup of tea but I just have to say they really emphasize how STUNNINGLY BEAUTIFUL her face is...

Aderianu 28th December 2010 07:28 AM

her lips always was big
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...anu/ayumix.jpg

kagami 28th December 2010 07:34 AM

As everyone else has said, it's just make-up. Ayu has taken to lining outside her lips recently (though she has done it in the past before too) and she is wearing a lot of lip plumper. Pics of her her with no/ very little make-up show she looks exactly the same as she always has.

channy 28th December 2010 07:44 AM

LOL, everyone is posting utterly over-photoshopped fake-pictures of Ayu's lips for comparison? About time to remind you guys on fan-made close-up photos from LA era to prove that her lips still look very decent, just like 15 years ago:

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5708/blahzx.jpg

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/4894/blaaaaah.jpg



If you ask me, personally I think, these lips look absolutely natural. These close-up should end this discussion, it's too obvious that people are creating new plastic surgery rumors for no real reason.

Kingdom 28th December 2010 07:50 AM

I don't care personally, because if she has had work done, it's in her favor. And if not, she ages well.

I found Ayumi really ugly in her old, old modeling shots when she was younger, and I never found her attractive until around 2004. She looks the best she ever has in 2008-2010 imo.

AyUmIXx 28th December 2010 08:26 AM

i admit that ayu's lips recently look so weird in recent live performances and also the PVs..
and somehow i think she does botox to her lips?, not sure though~
but either way,it could be just the lipgloss she's using, i think that could make our lips look "thicker" and bigger haha~
and also it's just bcoz her lips basically already seem so big, then they put on lipgloss, that automatically make ayu's lips even BIGGER haha XDD

i actually want ayu's lips!! it's sexyy!! XDDD

kendelle 28th December 2010 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ~*Mabushii*~ (Post 2594631)
That and there are lip glosses and lip sticks MEANT to make your lips look more plump. I think she's just using them a lot lately. :P

Yeah, they actually contain a mild poison that will cause your lips to puff up in reaction. I tried one once because it was the freebie in a magazine and my lips stang like a mofo. It really sucked xD

I think it's a combo of that lip stuff coming back into fashion along with big, full and pouty lips along with Ayu's general fashion direction. She wants to look more suited to upper fashion than the casual look she had years ago. As such she does overdramatic facial expression by nature :P

Sure she maybe had some collagen too to minimise wrinkles but it's so freaking common that it's not such a huge issue. Besides, she still has tonnes of facial epression, so she didn't have enough to freeze her face or anything lol

love in music 28th December 2010 08:57 AM

yeah, ayu naturally has full lips, so she really doesn't need the lip plumper and stuff or else they'll just look way too big sometimes. you gotta admit in pics like these they look pretty off and make it look like she got work done:

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8682/ayu02rw2yv2.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9...t201010003.jpg

but they don't look like that all the time, which imo is good since I don't find lips that take up most of your face very appealing lol

pop909 28th December 2010 09:11 AM

I dont think doing any plastic or collagen or knife-work is at all "losing identity".

many people in the general public (not fans, but just people) think she has done it anyways, so this case is no different from what people think, whether or not it confirms the rumor.

waterballoon 28th December 2010 09:21 AM

maybe if she used another brand other than Rimmel London her lips wouldn't look like she ate jalapenos or something lol

channy 28th December 2010 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by identity (Post 2594685)
yeah, ayu naturally has full lips, so she really doesn't need the lip plumper and stuff or else they'll just look way too big sometimes. you gotta admit in pics like these they look pretty off and make it look like she got work done:

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8682/ayu02rw2yv2.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9...t201010003.jpg

Really bad example. Only real photoshots from Paparazzis or fans are usefull, because magazin photoshots etc. are just the result of computer technology. You can fake everything on professional Photoshop works, so why not just post unedited pictures like I did?

ayudist 28th December 2010 10:33 AM

i think her covers have photoshoped lips because ayu still looks lovely live!

toniayu 28th December 2010 10:47 AM

i became to see her lips weird since this summer i was sure that she has botox because in love song pv her lips looks so,so,so weird and BIG,but about the pics that shisheido put...if are real photos of this year i think that the BIG lips of love songs era only are effect of the make up.
ayu is beautiful with lips big,with lips weird,with all xD

ayu_ready? 28th December 2010 11:00 AM

I also think her lips are quite weird, especially in crossroad when she's in the TV, looks like she got a surgery done
I think she did do something to her lips
and obviously she also did some surgery on the nose before, druing NL

surgery or not, now her face looks too strange sometimes :)

love in music 28th December 2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ShiSeido (Post 2594729)
Really bad example. Only real photoshots from Paparazzis or fans are usefull, because magazin photoshots etc. are just the result of computer technology. You can fake everything on professional Photoshop works, so why not just post unedited pictures like I did?

true. I wasn't trying to prove she had anything done with those pics though, just saying they made it look that way with the editing/make-up.
here are some caps from HD lives, first is from 2001, second from 2010. her lips look the same to me, just different shades of lipstick/gloss :P
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/3162/ayuu1.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2337/ayu2.jpg

dulceku 28th December 2010 12:02 PM

I doubt she got anything done... Her lips never have been super thin. I think she just uses a plumper and fish pose too much xD

rusuke 28th December 2010 12:29 PM

When I saw "crossroad" I was shocked because of her lips! But when I saw the making shot is thinner. I really think it's because of make-up ( I hope).XD

Kanzaki 28th December 2010 12:44 PM

Losing her identity?
I lol'ed so hard when I read that.

Imo she can do whatever she wants to her looks, her personality and creativity means a whole lot more to me. I'm buying her albums, not her face. She could get F-cup boobs and I'd still be a fan.

zaqwanbadli 28th December 2010 03:59 PM

We're used to see her lips thin, but it's nothing new when they're set in fish pucker pose.

Ayu in the "crossroad" PV looks very... not Ayu.
Make-up's guilty.

Anyhow, I prefer the thin-lipped Ayu.
Sometimes, her lips look too thin, though. I wonder how she does that?

Make-up. Something I couldn't really understand its powers.

PoetGirl 28th December 2010 04:05 PM

its make up. Nowadays we have lipsticks that cause allergic reaction and your lips are bigger.

I know it sounds crazy but ... women. they will buy everything.

JackieRos 28th December 2010 04:09 PM

I don't care what it is but it needs to stop.
In A BEST 2 pics her lips make her look very mature but
in moon blossom look trying to be cute and failing.

PEARL 28th December 2010 04:09 PM

with her hectic schedule, u think ayu have any time for any procedure?
think about it, its just the way of doing make-up which does wonders.

jbrat2219 28th December 2010 05:07 PM

Didn't Ayu already put the collagen/surgery rumors to rest? Plus she advertised for lip plumper didn't she? It wouldn't be weird that she uses it. Plus if you look at any Japanese fashion magazine, all the girls are doing the SAME thing. And if you ask me, Kana Nishino's lips are scarier than Ayu's xD;

C+R+E+AYUMI 28th December 2010 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NintendoHTF1242 (Post 2594558)
Lip gloss + Duck lips pose = ??

agree..using nude color + gloss my lips result bigger too..

gallowsCalibrator 28th December 2010 05:19 PM

I asked my aunt what she thought and she agrees that it's probably just make up~ ^_^ She said that Ayu wears so much make up that no one really knows what she does to her face. Soo I guess the general opinion of (at least my aunt's friends) youth in Japan isn't really sure :laugh
And honestly, how can we really be sure? It's all just speculation,hehe~

ayufan- 28th December 2010 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2594907)
Didn't Ayu already put the collagen/surgery rumors to rest? Plus she advertised for lip plumper didn't she? It wouldn't be weird that she uses it. Plus if you look at any Japanese fashion magazine, all the girls are doing the SAME thing. And if you ask me, Kana Nishino's lips are scarier than Ayu's xD;

The collagen rumor, i don't know about that, at least she told us in a TAblog she drinks it.
And collagen injections i think she use it, it's an injection, and you barely have skin reactions on the injections. Such an injection sessions taken about 30 minutes, so it pretty simple to use it without it being noticed.

So surgery, i don't think so, but collagen injections, I think so.

BlackSilence 28th December 2010 05:41 PM

OMG... so I'm not alone who noticed that O_O Something isn't ok with them... they look odd... they had such a beautiful shape...but I think it's the lipgloss that she's using + some make-up tricks (that even I know) to make them look bigger, let alone the pouting which she loves so much (I'm sick of it actually, her face starts to look like some porn star's with that.. -_-")...or some injections....>_> however if you'll look closelly her lips hadn't changed much, just the way she represents them..... *headdesk*

ayuayu798 28th December 2010 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kanzaki88 (Post 2594797)
Losing her identity?
I lol'ed so hard when I read that.

Imo she can do whatever she wants to her looks, her personality and creativity means a whole lot more to me. I'm buying her albums, not her face. She could get F-cup boobs and I'd still be a fan.

Seriously! I got a little ticked when I saw the comment about her losing her idenity... Umm... Fyi... Your idenity is something that is based on who you are in the inside... What appears on the outside means just about nada... If ayu wants to do something to her body,that's her choice... Who are we to make judgement of that? And that was a really bold thing that person on twitter did,asking her if she used collagen. I think as fans we shouldn't really make a deal out of what ayu does to enhance her beauty. I mean, it's her body not ours. As long as she keeps making good music,ayu could look like a japanese Pam anderson and I would not care.:yes

Kazeyomi 28th December 2010 06:19 PM

I don't get how she could lose her identity by bigger lips :shrug.
Ayu is a diva outside, but lovely inside. I love how she care of her image, but she not ignore her character and identity neither.
Would be worse if she starting to act like a *****y and superficial diva. She would lost her identity in that case.
But she's the same, even with big lips. She still write meaningful lyrics, and be lovely as always.

Mirrorcle Monster 28th December 2010 06:25 PM

I think she has done some surger lately, and unfortunatly i have seen her horrible in the L.A fans pics and in some TV lives

Kazeyomi 28th December 2010 06:35 PM

Tbh I don't think her lips looks so horrible :| at least they looks natural and not a surgery failure like Lindsay Lohan's lips


Sirea 28th December 2010 06:36 PM

Okay, seriously? We've had like 3 people here show proof of her having large lips many years ago, or her lips being normal now. Collagen doesn't just fluctuate in and out of appearing in your lips. If she had gotten collagen, her lips would look like they do on the GUILTY cover all the time. Period.

AND, let's just pretend she did get collagen. That's basically the most basic, no-fuss procedure you can get done. It's outpatient and done in injection form. It probably takes longer for her to do her freaking makeup every day. That's hardly 'losing her identity' since she'd just do the same thing with lip plumper constantly, and as I've said before, excessive use of lip plumper would cause more harm to her mouth anyway.

Either way, no one should care, nor should they judge her.

ayuayu798 28th December 2010 07:13 PM

saying that ayu loses idenity by making her lips bigger, is like saying that ayu becomes a different person everytime she dyes her hair or gets hair extensions:/ and whether or not ppl think that ayu lips look weird is all based on personal taste...

Oniisan 28th December 2010 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayumi626 (Post 2594570)
I'm surprised that this is even being brought up since someone asked Ayu about it on twitter and she flat out said she didn't have time for any kind of procedure.

lol, like all her fans would see all her tweets. :P

love in music 28th December 2010 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PoetGirl (Post 2594868)
its make up. Nowadays we have lipsticks that cause allergic reaction and your lips are bigger.

I know it sounds crazy but ... women. they will buy everything.

lol like in your sig.. her lips look gigantic! it's all from the lipstick~

idk, I think it's weird how sometimes people just say things like "yeah she had another nosejob recently" or "yeah she totally got a face lift recently, it's so obvious" not just with ayu, but other artists that are in the spotlight 24/7. it's like, if they did do this stuff when did they have the time? we're seeing them at least once a week and they're not all bandaged up from surgery. and if she had injections in her lips they would look really puffy all the time, not just in a few shoots/PV's.

StarSUCKER 28th December 2010 08:46 PM

:rolleyes This stuff comes up every year, seriously...

I don't think she's had collagen. I'm not saying she never will, but her lips keep going back and forth between OMFG HUGE and perfectly normal (usually depending on how candid the pic/video is). It's not consistent enough to be a long-lasting procedure.

It's very likely due to lip plumper (plus loads of Photoshop in still pictures). I don't like the look--especially that poofy pout. It looks too forced. Hopefully the trend will pass and Ayu will look normal even in magazine shoots again. :bsigh

Oh, and you know what? I would probably have a big problem with Ayu getting surgery, or even a "light" procedure like collagen or botox (no, I don't feel the same way about getting teeth fixed). But it is Ayu's body, and Ayu's self, and she can do what she wants in that sense. I'm not going to judge her character for it. She'll always be my inspirational Ayu. :heart

Oh, and one more thing! Ayu is one of those people whose facial features can look drastically different depending on makeup and lighting. Like, UNBELIEVABLY different. I don't mean necessarily her lips, but her cheekbones, nose, and facial shape as a whole. Some people like to think that every little change must be due to plastic surgery...and they ignore the (admittedly rare) normal, light-makeup pics throughout the years that indicate otherwise. :shrug

maikaru 28th December 2010 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2594586)
They've just changed the way they do her makeup. It's really subtle sometimes, but it makes a big difference. From year to year, the way they have done her makeup has changed and it has changed her appearance a lot.

Like nowadays they seem to use a lot of eyeliner and mascara along with fake lashes... they used to not use so many, but nowadays they're almost always there. Lip plumper / lip gloss also seems to be used a lot more often and because she seems to pout more, her lips seem larger.



Considering that she's stopped drinking insanely and has been on a "MY VOICE IS SO IMPORTANT" craze with her health products/humidifiers/etc... I think she stopped smoking at some point in 2004 or 2005 and only drinks casually nowadays.

Yeah she doesn`t smoke at all, cause on Twitter she says she hates the smoke from cigarettes. =)

I don`t think she had some botox. But I agree, something with her face is different this year... I think because of wisdom teeth proceedure or something...

love in music 28th December 2010 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by StarSUCKER (Post 2595036)
Hopefully the trend will pass and Ayu will look normal even in magazine shoots again. :bsigh

when I first saw this cover I was like "oh look ayu's normal lips again!" lol I think this is just them with normal lip gloss, no plumper. they look just fine too, she really doesn't need it.

StarSUCKER 28th December 2010 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 2595037)
Yeah she doesn`t smoke at all, cause on Twitter she says she hates the smoke from cigarettes. =)

I don`t think she had some botox. But I agree, something with her face is different this year... I think because of wisdom teeth proceedure or something...

Good to hear about the smoking! Ayu really needs to value her voice and treat it well! And of course her overall health...anyway, that's just good news. :heart

Getting your wisdom teeth out shouldn't make any kind of permanent change to your appearance. Yes, they can cause swelling for a few days (I had mine out a few years back btw), but I doubt Ayu would have done filming while suffering from visible swelling. If her face looks a bit thinner, it's probably due to lost weight. Especially considering how busy she is.

Also, I don't think she's had botox either. Or if she has...it was VERY well done. Because her face is still so expressive...I mean look at that wide smile she has in LA fan pictures. Botox basically paralyzes your muscles. Even a small amount of it would show as a kind of restraint in facial movement, if she had it.

Chibi-Chan 28th December 2010 09:32 PM

I noticed a much bigger scandal: she wears fake nails!!!!

toniayu 28th December 2010 11:40 PM

^ that is normal... ^_^

PoetGirl 28th December 2010 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibi-Chan (Post 2595053)
I noticed a much bigger scandal: she wears fake nails!!!!

lol, love this :D

Aisha_Angel 28th December 2010 11:53 PM

It's the type of lip gloss she's wearing...

It's nothing to get all crazy about. And if she has lost weight, its because she's kind of been going nonstop since last years CDL as far as concerts are concerned.

love in music 29th December 2010 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Aisha_Angel (Post 2595112)
It's the type of lip gloss she's wearing...

It's nothing to get all crazy about. And if she has lost weight, its because she's kind of been going nonstop since last years CDL as far as concerts are concerned.

yeah, she also mentioned in a recent interview that she only eats organic foods now, which could have made her lose a bit of weight too.

emi♡ 29th December 2010 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Chibi-Chan (Post 2595053)
I noticed a much bigger scandal: she wears fake nails!!!!

Or the real truth:

She HAS to wear fake nails now, because after all those years of wearing them, she doesnt even have any real nails left...

Kazeyomi 29th December 2010 02:43 AM

^
omg D:
But I guess to saw a pic with her real nails in a TA entry a couple of months ago.

truehappiness 29th December 2010 02:48 AM

Yeah, she showed us her natural nails a while back. Not a big deal. Any normal person who wore as many fake nails as Ayu would probably have uber damage, but not Ayu. Same goes for people who color their hair as often as Ayu does. I think it probably has to do with the maintenance and the staffers she's got working on her hair/makeup/nailist stuff. They're all world class at their crafts except maybe Minazo... haha. But even then he learned from an expert like Bancho.

I don't think Ayu wears her fake nails for that long anyway. Sometimes she changes them twice a day or more so there's no time for damage to take place. Also, for the time that she's not really in the public eye, I think she probably leaves the fake nails in the box or wherever they're stored with her natural nails out.

waterballoon 29th December 2010 02:53 AM

If I ever see Ayu face-to-face, I'm gonna ask what hair products she uses, and if she could gimme a bottle of it LOL

AyuGAME 29th December 2010 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2594907)
Didn't Ayu already put the collagen/surgery rumors to rest? Plus she advertised for lip plumper didn't she? It wouldn't be weird that she uses it. Plus if you look at any Japanese fashion magazine, all the girls are doing the SAME thing. And if you ask me, Kana Nishino's lips are scarier than Ayu's xD;

so true...
and don't forget about milliyah...i think it's a trend now...

do it again 29th December 2010 02:56 AM

I think she has bigger lips now because it's a sign that she's pregnant. The ankles swell also (that's why she covers them with boots) and so do her lips. :)

waterballoon 29th December 2010 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by do it again (Post 2595188)
I think she has bigger lips now because it's a sign that she's pregnant. The ankles swell also (that's why she covers them with boots) and so do her lips. :)

Are her swelling breasts a sign of pregnancy too? Oh em gee. :O

do it again 29th December 2010 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2595189)
Are her swelling breasts a sign of pregnancy too? Oh em gee. :O

Yes thank you for reminding me. That's why her cleavage is so large in the do it again PV.

waterballoon 29th December 2010 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by do it again (Post 2595190)
Yes thank you for reminding me. That's why her cleavage is so large in the do it again PV.

oh no Mannie what have you done. :no he ruined our Virgin Maria

lumieregrl 29th December 2010 03:01 AM

^ Ya'll are crazy. lol I'm guessing Mannie is the daddy? LOL

truehappiness 29th December 2010 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by do it again (Post 2595190)
Yes thank you for reminding me. That's why her cleavage is so large in the do it again PV.

Woah, so Ayu's been pregnant for like 5 years now.

do it again 29th December 2010 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2595193)
Woah, so Ayu's been pregnant for like 5 years now.

That's why there is so many abortion rumors...

lumieregrl 29th December 2010 03:02 AM

Wonder where she hides the kids? XD

waterballoon 29th December 2010 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2595193)
Woah, so Ayu's been pregnant for like 5 years now.

Actually it started in 2008. She has had a stillbirth since the NEXT LEVEL album came out.

Bruised.Sapphire 29th December 2010 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by do it again (Post 2595188)
I think she has bigger lips now because it's a sign that she's pregnant. The ankles swell also (that's why she covers them with boots) and so do her lips. :)

:roflmao Genius.

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 29th December 2010 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2594586)
Considering that she's stopped drinking insanely and has been on a "MY VOICE IS SO IMPORTANT" craze with her health products/humidifiers/etc... I think she stopped smoking at some point in 2004 or 2005 and only drinks casually nowadays.

cheese and fries!!

I have no idea about this. I thought she never smokes!! o.O

truehappiness 29th December 2010 04:41 AM

Well, as a yankee/yankii type girl, she probably smoked as a teen and was seen several times pre-2004/2005 with a cigarette every so often. It seemed like she socially smoked which was like once in a blue moon but since then she's been on a health craze and no one's seen any signs of "smoking" from her.

emi♡ 29th December 2010 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by lumieregrl (Post 2595195)
Wonder where she hides the kids? XD

...there ARE no kids lol

I cant believe she was pregnant again though, gosh.

You'd think she'd finally learn to use some birth control.

kotora 29th December 2010 04:50 AM

She is fine, probably she fell on street really hard and made her lips like now.

kendelle 29th December 2010 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2594698)
maybe if she used another brand other than Rimmel London her lips wouldn't look like she ate jalapenos or something lol

Wat'choo talkin' about, waterballoon? Rimmel is cool xD

waterballoon 29th December 2010 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by emiko (Post 2595250)
You'd think she'd finally learn to use some birth control.

Those are not 100% foolproof. Abstinence is the key... Ayu has taught us again, another important life lesson. :yes

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Originally Posted by kendelle (Post 2595252)
Wat'choo talkin' about, waterballoon? Rimmel is cool xD

Reli? i don't use cosmetics so I've no idea but it seems like her lips got magically huge after endorsing for Rimmel... maybe she doesn't suit the brand or something :shrug

emi♡ 29th December 2010 04:56 AM

god, she has the worst luck out of everyone having sex ever~

lumieregrl 29th December 2010 04:57 AM

^Has she really had that big of a problem? o.O I haven't really heard of this stuff. Ah well...

emi♡ 29th December 2010 04:59 AM

If you look really deep into her lyrics, you can tell where she writes about it :yes

kendelle 29th December 2010 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2595253)
Reli? i don't use cosmetics so I've no idea but it seems like her lips got magically huge after endorsing for Rimmel... maybe she doesn't suit the brand or something :shrug

Well part of the reason it's cool is because of Ayu ;) but they are actually the best I've used ever, especially the foundation which feels really light and is omgawsumz :luv2

I think about the time of the DejiDeji 100 book she was specifically pimping the lip pumper stuff they had so maybe Rimmel liked the look and decided she would keep using it for their other shoots.....I guess we'll never know for sure though!

SunshineSlayer 29th December 2010 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Larisa-chan (Post 2594562)
Something about her face in general has been odd this year. But, like, I don't know how to explain it, but her cheeks and chin seem more pronounced and it really does look like she has collagen injections x.x

(Honestly, though, with her face, it's probably just due to her aging lol Smoking cigarettes/drinking too probably don't help either)

Honestly though it wasn't just this year, I thought around a year and a half to two years ago that her face was looking really different (and not just due to aging), but lately the Love Songs stuff; pv and performances have looked more pronounced.

tinka69 29th December 2010 07:11 AM

Eh, so what if she got some injections?? Honestly, I think she's just been using lip plumper.

joshuapeterson 29th December 2010 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Larisa-chan (Post 2594562)
Something about her face in general has been odd this year. But, like, I don't know how to explain it, but her cheeks and chin seem more pronounced and it really does look like she has collagen injections x.x

(Honestly, though, with her face, it's probably just due to her aging lol Smoking cigarettes/drinking too probably don't help either)

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2594586)
Considering that she's stopped drinking insanely and has been on a "MY VOICE IS SO IMPORTANT" craze with her health products/humidifiers/etc... I think she stopped smoking at some point in 2004 or 2005 and only drinks casually nowadays.

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Originally Posted by Andali (Post 2594603)
I highly doubt she smokes. But I think she's lost weight not that she needs to at all. If you lose too much it goes from your face as well. I know that for a fact

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Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 2595037)
Yeah she doesn`t smoke at all, cause on Twitter she says she hates the smoke from cigarettes. =)

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Originally Posted by StarSUCKER (Post 2595042)
Good to hear about the smoking! Ayu really needs to value her voice and treat it well! And of course her overall health...anyway, that's just good news. :heart

Oh.M.No. I never knew Ayu touched cigarettes? Maybe she could smoke once in awhile... loosen up that very very very deep vibrato a little?

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Originally Posted by ero-kakkoii (Post 2594651)
I don't care personally, because if she has had work done, it's in her favor. And if not, she ages well.

I found Ayumi really ugly in her old, old modeling shots when she was younger, and I never found her attractive until around 2004. She looks the best she ever has in 2008-2010 imo.

I second that opinion. She looked incredible in every photo not taken by the guy who did S/S covers.

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2594698)
maybe if she used another brand other than Rimmel London her lips wouldn't look like she ate jalapenos or something lol

I like Rimmel! Though not very good for lipstick... yucky.

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Originally Posted by Kanzaki88 (Post 2594797)
Losing her identity?
I lol'ed so hard when I read that.

Imo she can do whatever she wants to her looks, her personality and creativity means a whole lot more to me. I'm buying her albums, not her face. She could get F-cup boobs and I'd still be a fan.

I actually saw Ayu in my head with super big boobs... She was stumbling forward in the do it again video because of em. :no

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Originally Posted by Aisha_Angel (Post 2595112)
It's the type of lip gloss she's wearing...

It's nothing to get all crazy about. And if she has lost weight, its because she's kind of been going nonstop since last years CDL as far as concerts are concerned.

Not good. I thought she looked emaciated in Love song and Last angel... BTW, has anyone figured out what happened in the story from all of those?? I was REALLY confused at the end of Last angel.

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Originally Posted by identity (Post 2595119)
yeah, she also mentioned in a recent interview that she only eats organic foods now, which could have made her lose a bit of weight too.

Eeek. Stop Ayu! I used to work at Walmart and I saw those health-food people come in all the time... they were all hunchbacks!

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2595184)
Yeah, she showed us her natural nails a while back. Not a big deal. Any normal person who wore as many fake nails as Ayu would probably have uber damage, but not Ayu. Same goes for people who color their hair as often as Ayu does. I think it probably has to do with the maintenance and the staffers she's got working on her hair/makeup/nailist stuff. They're all world class at their crafts except maybe Minazo... haha. But even then he learned from an expert like Bancho.

I don't think Ayu wears her fake nails for that long anyway. Sometimes she changes them twice a day or more so there's no time for damage to take place. Also, for the time that she's not really in the public eye, I think she probably leaves the fake nails in the box or wherever they're stored with her natural nails out.

I wonder if Ayu keeps one nail from every style she's had done? I would love to see them all lined up... Maybe a big poster showing off all the nail styles she's had since 1998?? :D :D

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Originally Posted by AyuGAME (Post 2595187)
so true...
and don't forget about milliyah...i think it's a trend now...

Miliyah has cooled off a bit compared to her earlier singles. She tried to be pretty too much... I really don't like it when she does a shoot where she's all dolled up like she used to four years ago... She's pretty, but much prettier when she's not Like a doll.

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2595191)
oh no Mannie what have you done. :no he ruined our Virgin Maria

NOW I get the "Virgin Road" pun.

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Originally Posted by lumieregrl (Post 2595195)
Wonder where she hides the kids? XD

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2595197)
Actually it started in 2008. She has had a stillbirth since the NEXT LEVEL album came out.

Ouch. I would push "eject" button, I don't know about any of you...

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Originally Posted by Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ (Post 2595240)
cheese and fries!!

I have no idea about this. I thought she never smokes!! o.O

Oh, no thank you. I just ate not too long ago!

truehappiness 29th December 2010 07:17 AM

About the nails:
I think they keep every set of nails she's ever worn. They put the single/album ones up on display recently. I do wonder where they're stored... some vault at avex?

lumieregrl 29th December 2010 08:10 AM

^Maybe in that huge closet she has. XD

toniayu 29th December 2010 10:55 AM

i don't think that ayu is pregnant because she comments months ago that they order the materials for the next tour and...a pregnant can't do a tour xD

njanjayrp 29th December 2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ayushiteru (Post 2594551)
ok watching the pvs (specially in love song and crossroad) ...is very visible that´s ayu´s lips are bigger.... I think that we can finally say that she has collagen.....that´s sad...she´s loosing her identity

Or are you just being shallow? If you consider someone's lips their identity then there is not much to lose now, is there? Without all the heavy makeup I like the way she looks.

freedreamer 29th December 2010 11:48 AM

She had those lips in some You were... era photoshoots already.
and also, her eyes are totally different during Sunrise/Sunset era photoshoots...so...

makeup

AyUmIXx 29th December 2010 03:27 PM

Woahh finally got to see normal ayu's lips on PEACH JOHN magazine!

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1...1spring001.jpg

Corvina 29th December 2010 04:18 PM

She had those big lips almost the whole year... don't care where they come from, I don't like them!

adantatu2 30th December 2010 12:36 AM

she doesn't need that, she got really nice and big lips


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