About Love songs CD and DVD art
 

so I've just bought Love songs like 2 hours ago.. :laugh

it's CD+DVD, and it comes with slipcase, the alternate cover is ayu's close-up face, no obi, but as I know the CD artwork is dark brown and the DVD one is soft pink, but the DVD one that I got is in RED... do you guys think it's bootleg??

the booklet says it's japan version but I'm not sure... ==a

^ sure.. wait a minute... :D

here you go..

http://i53.tinypic.com/2nsq7ih.jpg

^ so,it's bootleg or not??

i don't think it is a bootleg.usually the album that has slipcase does not have any obi

I have the version with the cover of her sitting on the couch and my DVD is pink. could it be that all versions with the close up of her face cover have red DVD's? I think it could be possible since there are red flowers on the back cover and the design team may have wanted to match that. hopefully someone else who owns it can tell you.

nanakopy87 is right on what she said but my Taiwan press / CD + DVD did come with an OBI alongside with the slipcase since avex Taiwan loves to 'OBI-lise' everything xD

Anyway , the DVD of my Love songs is light baby pink in colour & not red :shrug

a few questions to ask to confirm whether your copy is a legit.
where and how much did you got ur copy from?
And you said the booklet mention japan version? where was it stated? I dont remember the booklet mention japan version unless u're saying the printing on the CD and DVD itself.
Japan version CD+DVD jewel case had an 'A' logo on the center piece of the casing imprinted in it.
What is the region code of your dvd?
And is the product labeled AVCD 38217/B?
If possible, a closeup and clear picture of the sticker might help.
Your copy might be an OS press, A BALLADS had the same thing. the CD prints have different colors for both the OS and japan version.

where: from a local record store for $12.5 (the owner said it's legit)
the "japan version" is mentioned on the back cover
there's no A logo in the jewel case
here's the DVD codes that I can found from the back of the DVD disc:
AVCD-38217/B/MT F03
AVCD-38217/B/0 MT G02
IFPI L266
IFPI L270
IFPI CC007

yes. it's labeled AVCD-38217/B based on the slipcase, booklet, and the CD disc
here's the sticker pic
http://i54.tinypic.com/2mh76li.jpg

or can you please upload Track 01 - Love song from your own CD Rip in iTunes Plus format (256 KBPS VBR AAC)?? just to compare the spectogram to know whether it's the legit one or not... :D

here's the spectogram pic of track 09 - blossom using Nero Wave editor
http://i56.tinypic.com/r8xphc.jpg

it's in iTunes Plus format (256 kbps (VBR) AAC), usually CD Rips reached a higher peak than this but the one that zelda-maker encoded from the 48kHz wav files (of the USB version) even has a lower peak... ==a

it does look like its a legit one.just that it is weird that the DVD is in red where as others are pink.lol.

p/s: do you mind to use the edit function instead of double post?

oh, I hope it's the legit one... :(

LOL I'm sorry, I'm just too worried about this album that I forgot to edit my posts... :D

What's your DVD region code? Japan version should be code 2.

It's region 2...

It seems legit but there's 3 things that bothers me.
1) The price that you mention is USD$12.5? that is very cheap even for a 2nd hand as it is still a recent album. And u bought it locally means indonesia? More likely that they would bring up the price instead of dropping it right?
2) The Jewel case should have the A logo on the center of the casing refer to picture below. Though it might just be that they changed the jewel casing unless it's brand new that you got it.
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/3952/p1000435.th.jpg
3) The sticker seems abit off or maybe it's just that your picture is not clear enough.
I've noticed that the part on the DVD, where it mentions the 3 songs " [Last angel][Love song][do it again]" mine was closely packed together. But from your picture, they seemed evenly spaced out and I cant seem to see [do it again] clearly. Which might just explains that it's ur picture that is not clearly focused.
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/3...000433b.th.jpg
I'm not gonna upload a rip copy as if they can make a bootleg so legit, I think they can get a ripped copy of the original CD easily.
So your copy might just be a QC failed copy of Love song or a very high quality bootleg o.O"

it has the 'A' logo at the center of the jewel casing?i don't remember rnrc has it

Yeapz it sure does have. Refer to the pic on my previous post.
RnRC doesnt have it.

ah.no wonder i never saw it before >.<

it's imported by PT. MARANATHA as the tax sticker says, maybe they have a special deal with Avex to sell it cheaper in Indonesia?
Usually ayu's Singapore version albums that were sold here are about $21.5

and about the sticker: in the DVD part it says like this:
[Last angel] [Love song] [do itagain]

they mistyped it to [do itagain] instead of [do it again]
and in the CD part, your sticker says like this
01. Love song : ..... (some japanese letters)

but mine is like
01. Love song .... (some japanese letter)

there's no double-dot [:] symbol there

even the booklet's images' colors aren't so bright like the R'n'RC one that I have (singapore version)

thanks for all the explanation... :heart

^^ really weird. I have japanese version of Love Songs bought from HMV and you know actually your notice about mistypes makes me think you've got very good bootleg. What about your jewel case? Does it have avex "A" logo inside?

^It was already stated there was no A symbol on the inside jewel case...so yep, seems to be a bootleg.

Ayu's A logo and avex A logo is different ^^"

Anyway alot of strange thing about this CD+DVD.
If it's a bootleg, it's kinda strange that they even took the effort to make it a region 2 DVD. (unless Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ only took it as region 2 DVD by looking @ the booklet and not trying it out on any players.)
I think IFPI coding on the disc is also kinda rare for an bootleg nowadays (Not sure though cause I dun buy bootlegs nowadays. But I remember the olders bootlegs do have the IFPI coding as there's still no infringement agreement in Taiwan that time) And most bootlegs wouldnt put avex's icon anywhere on the CD instead, they will put their own company info only.

But then again, if it's an import, everything should be untouched and in original *** version released condition. By editing the sticker and not original jewel casing, seems abit off... and the price would definately be higher and not lower.

If they've come to an agreement for a local release, it wouldnt be Japan press. It would be an OS press (ie. Hongkong, Taiwan, China, Korea and Singapore) And any writings on the disc should be in local languages and not japan writings execept maybe the booklet should be around the same. DVD region should be 3 also (indonesia region is 3).

Interesting finding on this release ^^

Sr ! it may be off-topic ! i just want to ask u guys a question abt Rock'n'roll circus ! Is the OBI for this album red or brown ?

Black and red wordings for CD+DVD.
Red and black wordings for CD only
And I think brown and white wordings is for the boxset. I've seal up my copy but I remember it's different from the CD+DVD.

Sorry, but I have no DVD player so I tried to play it on my computer, and tried to check it using Nero and it said that the DVD region is ALL (it means that it can be played in any player)

and about the Avex's logo, the CD and the DVD all have the Avex's logo imprinted on the disc, and there's also JASRAC's logo? Is that normal for Japanese albums? Because my Kana Nishino's to LOVE also has that logo beside the Sony's one.

So, maybe it's the failed copy of Love songs like you mentioned before??

at least the audio quality of the CD is still the same.

Using Nero WaveEditor, the spectogram shows that it even has higher peak than the files converted from the 48 khZ wav files of the USB version (thanks to zelda-maker) :D

^^ region ALL almost definitely means it's a bootleg. Your pc wouldn't let you play the dvd in player like mpc without special proram like AnyDVD or your dvd-rom switched to region 2 mode. Anyway you would mention if that happens. Also I can't find any JASRAC's logo on my copy of Love songs. Can you take pic of it?

the DVD is just fine, I could play it with my Windows Media Player without changing any setting... :)
here you go...
http://i51.tinypic.com/9qgzti.jpg

and I have just had a sudden hypothesis:
maybe if it's actually a second-hand album, the original owner maybe kept the REAL original CD and DVD for him/herself, and then he/she made his/her own copy from the original discs, then replaced the jewel case (because the booklet, front+back cover and the slipcase look just fine), and put his/her own copy there, and finally sold it at an online store/auction??

the seller from the local record store must have acknowledged it.

oh, if that is really so, cursed him/her!! :grumpy

^the DVD should be pink. The CD looks legit. Same color as mine. Maybe the previous owner did copy it and go through all that trouble to resale it? Or maybe it is a goof on avex's part. I'm stumped on how you got a red DVD lol

^ well, maybe it its... LOL :D

^ but there is also mistypes in label which is really weird. Label is the same on all first pressed cd+dvds and there is almost no chances some copies would get screwed up label. hm...

And, 1 more important thing. I didn't ask about the avex logo on cd and dvd itself. I've asked about avex logo inside your jewel case. you should have 4 avex logos inside of your jewel case(2 near the cd and 2 near the dvd). Do you have them?

Even if jewelcase was replaced mistypes at label makes me think something not good about it. Can you make more clear photo of barcode printed on slipcase?

lol.this is interesting!
XD

no, there's no avex's logos on the jewel case

here's the pic:
http://i54.tinypic.com/wve2cy.jpg

the barcode seems to be the right one but It's most likely to be a bootleg because of dvd, jewelcase and mistakes on label. You know it's really easy to make a copy of the slipcase and it's easy to download and rip ayu's songs in flac or smth, so the quality would be the same. Anyway your dvd seems to be not legit and jewelcase as well and I doubt someone would make such a good looking fake dvd and to give out on auction whole album except dvd and blank jewel case without any booklets nor cover left for himself/herself

By the way, did you had another small label on the back, right above the bar code. There should be qr-code, some japanese text and link to http://q.mu-mo.net/ayu_101222/ ???

^ nope, there are some japanese texts and a link to avex.jp... o.Oa

http://i54.tinypic.com/2vn3s5z.jpg

and here's the one scanned and posted by japaneseprincess.wordpress.com

http://japaneseprincess.files.wordpr.../08/s38217.jpg

I think there's no QR code. o.Oa

^ those two barcodes are different... O_o And the barcodes are in 2 different locations relative to the rosebush in the background.

^ OMG you're right, I've just noticed that!! o.O

oh crap, now I'm starting to be sure that it's a BOOTLEG... :(

failed copy of Love songs is okay, but bootleg, oh.. cursed those who made it!! :grumpy
I've spent $12.5 for nothing... T_T :grumpy

If someone could just upload one song of his/her own CD RIP (in 256 kbps VBR iTunes AAC / iTunes Plus), so I could compare the quality...

If the CD has the same quality, it will be just fine for me... :)

Lol wow...at least you got a good bootleg~

^ow yeah, I've just checked the numbers on the bar code itself and forgot to check it with my barcode reader. You've got the code for CDL09-10 dvd on your Love Songs ^_^ so even slipcase is a bootleg =(

^ wow, you have a bar-code scanner?? is it a program on your PC?? where can I get it? can you please show me the result that says the barcode in the slipcase is from CDL 2009-2010?? :D thanks...

oh, now I'm relieved and upset at once... :(

but still, it's a BOOTLEG, and I got the reduced audio-quality of the CD.. :(

oh, how stupid I was not to realize it... :headache

it actually program on my phone, it uses camera to read the barcode. But I'm sure there is one for pc, I'll post link when I'll get home from work tonight ^_^

^ alrighty... thanks! :D

you can upload this pic to this site http://www.onlinebarcodereader.com/
and you will see that numbers from the barcode itself don't match the numbers which are written on the package. That numbers correspond to CDL09-10 dvd, you can check scans ^_^
I have a program for my android-based mobile and so I didn't had to compare numbers, it just searched through some product database and showed that this is CDL09-10.

^ okay, I'll try it... :)

This number is definately the barcode for Love songs. 4988064382170
Unless the number that you've scanned isnt what the numbers are, I suspect that the database is inaccurate.

The NUMBER is for Love Songs. But the bar code itself(the white and black stripes) are for CDL. You can clearly see how they are different from the scan from japaneseprincess.wordpress.com posted below
The number you see printed on bar code doesn't mean anything. There could be no numbers or you could write "NOT A BOOTLEG" there, but the black and white stripes form the barcode itself and that is only important thing you should look on. And this code is the same to my CDL09-10 dvd and different from my Love Songs cd+dvd first press so the database is not inaccurate or smth.

Wow, whoever did it did a good job on it.

Somebody had way too much time......

I don't think they've spent so much effort to do only 1 copy like this. I think there are a lot of these bootlegs over the country(Indonesia, right?)

Indeed...

I had already had a Love songs bootleg (only the DVD) before I bought the full album (which I thought was the legit one :weep) and it was sold only for $1 :innocent

anyway, did you bought it for 100k IDR?
I've ever seen KAT-TUN's No More Pain, ayu's NEXT LEVEL, and some Johnny's artists on Duta Suara and Indomusic. Yet, I'm also found some people bought their YUI's HOLIDAYS IN THE SUN, with the same price. Of course, in different shop.
I'm usually import CD and I know the differences. Just see how the way the sticker is printed, and YOU'LL SEE that's BOOTLEG. It'll say, "Made in Japan" with 100-125k IDR. FYI, the HK ver have much better printing than the booklet. You better spend 180k IDR and bought it along with clover_bali and some others for getting the legit HK press...
Not promoting, but... yeah... just to remind... If you bought booklet like that again, people who pirated it will make another and another...

^ yes, the shop's name is Sangaji Music (@ Tunjungan Plaza, Surabaya), and there are also Kana Nishino's to LOVE, YUI's HOLIDAYS IN THE SUN, etc. @ for around 125-150 IDR.

I'd bought Kana's to LOVE before I bought Love songs, but it seems legit and the CD+DVD play just fine. :yes

would you mind checking the bar code of it? or make a photo of it and I'll check :yes

sure, here you go :yes (oh, please be legit.. :D)

^^ It seems to be Kana Nishino "to LOVE" cd+dvd. ^_^ And yes, it's legit)

phew... thank god.. :D

If you have JP press / HK press CDs (not just Kana Nishino), you can compare it to them '__'a Just to mention, that bootleg reduced the quality of the print.
Sometime, they'll make it like legit, don't discover it by the barcode only.

About the CDs, you should see :

Made in Japan
- check the print quality, japan version is always clear on the words.
- check the PRICE, japan version NEW usually 30-50 USD here. And usually the bootleg will have super-tight sealed plastic outside. If it 2nd hand, meh... You already know the price, don't you think so? If all Japan version albums just 12,5USD like you mentioned, my room already full of CDs.

Made in Taiwan / Singapore / Hongkong
Same with I said, above. Just to mention, usually HK CD+DVD / CD only in this country will sell at about 170k - 260k IDR.

Price is what you'll get, dude :)

Anyway, my friend ever find alan's My Life on Sangaji music, Senayan City :p

I don't mean to highjack this thread, but I have a question.
I ordered the first edition of Love Songs CD+DVD.. I thought it was suppose to come with a photobook? Mine didn't?

Am i wrong and not photobook or did i just pay first press price for 2nd press>

CD+DVD edition shouldn't have any photobook except the booklet with lyrics.
microSD + USB + DVD version is the one with photobook.

well, maybe they're (in Indonesia) KW products??
But my Kana Nishino's to LOVE has clear booklet print and as I check the spectogram, the CD's files peak are above 22khz.. :yes
yes, I bought ayu's RnRC last year and it's for 215k IDR, the booklet print is so much better than Love songs that I bought... :(

::gasp::.. Ahhh...

Thanks!

I think it's maybe an Indonesian version of Love songs.
They were just too lazy to change the text into Indonesian or English.
I have a copy of NEXT LEVEL Singapore Version, and its obi is totally SIMILAR with japanese ver's obi. usually the singapore version never prints the release date on the obi, but NEXT LEVEL's obi has it.
Your copy is too perfect to be a bootleg. Hehe

Singapore version should have a different catalogue number. This is nothing else but bootleg.