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Linoa62 16th March 2012 09:54 AM

Shake it♥ PV on March 17th on SSTV
 
Everything is in the title lol

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/477865Sanstitre1.jpg

MissElin_ 16th March 2012 10:25 AM

Can't say I'm looking forward to it though. :/ Since NaNaNa wasn't, well it simply wasn't for me, and Shake it<3 is like pt.1 of those videos. I hope Ayu will prove me wrong though. :yes

xLuna&1LOVE 16th March 2012 11:23 AM

^ mte.

But I have still hope for it :) I can't wait.

douggn 16th March 2012 12:47 PM

Yay not long now

isthisLOL? 16th March 2012 08:04 PM

Shake It mainly suffered from the complete over-use of an effect, here's hoping that effect isn't employed in Shake It, at least not as much.

brener 16th March 2012 08:41 PM

Shake It<3 has grown so much in me *--* cant wait to watch its pv!!

ohsixthirty 16th March 2012 08:56 PM

love the song... but not expecting a lot from the PV sadly. :(

still, i look forward to seeing it. :yes

Kana×Shin 16th March 2012 08:57 PM

this will be the last PV to air?

setsuka 16th March 2012 08:57 PM

My favorite PQ song

my expectations are rock bottom though

I don't hate any of the new pvs, none of them have WOW'ed me safe the ending for Return Road

panda♥ 16th March 2012 09:01 PM

assuming it's going to be similar to NaNaNa, lol.
Timmy in drag, and Ayu attempting to dance. :laugh

everlastingRAINBOW 16th March 2012 09:17 PM

^ And Timmy attempting even harder to dance :rolleyes

Love the song, but the PV will suck :/

cosmicfirefly 17th March 2012 02:51 AM

The song isn't one of my favorites and so far the pvs for this album haven't been either, but I'm still looking forward to it!

Kouyou 17th March 2012 03:22 AM

I still have hope that the PV will be better than NaNaNa. The song features less of Timmy's vocals, so hopefully the video will be the same. NaNaNa just had too much Timmy; still love the song, though.

YUKARI 17th March 2012 03:31 AM

thanks for info! I'm still curious to see this PV. Hope it'll be a good surprise.

ALfromHELLSING 17th March 2012 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by YUKARI (Post 2834992)
thanks for info! I'm still curious to see this PV. Hope it'll be a good surprise.

fingers crossed. preview doesn't look any promising :o

krtman2002 17th March 2012 11:51 AM

Where is the pv?? It should have been aired by now, isn't it?

Linoa62 17th March 2012 11:54 AM

Not yet, one hour left. It's not 8:00 PM yet in Japan.

Didz-19 17th March 2012 11:54 AM

it stated 2000~2100 ....should be Japan Time~~give it time :)

krtman2002 17th March 2012 12:21 PM

hahaha, sorry! I am sooooooooooo impatience about ayu pvs... XD. And do you know when the lyrics in english can be posted?

Linoa62 17th March 2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by krtman2002 (Post 2835191)
hahaha, sorry! I am sooooooooooo impatience about ayu pvs... XD. And do you know when the lyrics in english can be posted?

Shake it PV has been broadcast (it was supposed to be broadcast first at 8:00 PM Japanese time), we should get it soon now.

douggn 17th March 2012 12:25 PM

http://www.spaceshowertv.com/program...sakiayumi.html
MUSIC VIDEO SPECIAL Ayumi Hamasaki
2012年元旦にデビューシングルから最新曲まで全100本のMVなどを収めたDVDを発売、トップアーテ ィストとして揺るぎない存在感を見せる浜崎あゆみを60分大特集!

On Air Time

First broadcasting (Sat) 3/17 8:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m.
Repeat 3/28 21:00 (Wed.)

MV Track-list:
Shake It · Ayumi Hamasaki
NaNaNa Ayumi Hamasaki
Return Road Ayumi Hamasaki
how beautiful you are Ayumi Hamasaki
Love song Ayumi Hamasaki
Last angel Ayumi Hamasaki
Why ... feat.JUNO Ayumi Hamasaki
ANother song feat.URATA NAOYA Ayumi Hamasaki
BRILLANTE Ayumi Hamasaki
progress Ayumi Hamasaki

isthisLOL? 17th March 2012 12:28 PM

I was wondering if they'd have an Ayu PV special, they had them for like...every other artist in existance lately lol We might get a better Return Road rip from it.

douggn 17th March 2012 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by isthisLOL? (Post 2835197)
I was wondering if they'd have an Ayu PV special, they had them for like...every other artist in existance lately lol We might get a better Return Road rip from it.

Thats what this is: 浜崎あゆみ MUSIC VIDEO SPECIAL

Quote:

2012年元旦にデビューシングルから最新曲まで全100本のMVなどを収めたDVDを発売、トップアーテ ィストとして揺るぎない存在感を見せる浜崎あゆみを60分大特集!

(google translated)And MV released DVD containing all 100 books to the latest songs from their debut single on New Year's Day 2012, features large Ayumi Hamasaki 60 minutes to show a solid presence as a top artist!

Catfisk 17th March 2012 12:36 PM

Just hoping that it'll be better than NaNaNa >___<

isthisLOL? 17th March 2012 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by douggn (Post 2835202)
Thats what this is: 浜崎あゆみ MUSIC VIDEO SPECIAL

I know o.0 I was commenting on it finally happening because I expected it for a while.

douggn 17th March 2012 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by isthisLOL? (Post 2835205)
I know o.0 I was commenting on it finally happening because I expected it for a while.

sorry misread wondering with wonder. Been staring the the screen for too long

Linoa62 17th March 2012 12:49 PM

Caps from KMC
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/16/00/82/81/di-dr110.jpg

isthisLOL? 17th March 2012 12:51 PM

More Timmy than Ayu, AHS will burn.

bondingo 17th March 2012 12:57 PM

Another potentially amazing PV ****ed over by Timmy. I hate him SO ****ING MUCH. I think I'm going to cancel my preorder. What's the point of getting the CD+DVD if the DVD is filled with 1 good PV, one so-so PV, and two that are atrociously awful?

AyuWorld 17th March 2012 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by isthisLOL? (Post 2835213)
More Timmy than Ayu, AHS will burn.

yessss and i feel like vomiting :o

Mirrorcle Monster 17th March 2012 01:01 PM

Seriously, the PVs this time have been horrible. Only how beautiful you are is good (even though the song is boring and the concept is nothing but original). Return Road could have been epic but is just good. And NaNaNa and Shake It are cheap

RayJason 17th March 2012 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AyuWorld (Post 2835219)
yessss and i feel like vomiting :o

Pass me that bucket I feel like vomiting too. :no lol

Linoa62 17th March 2012 01:17 PM

Shake it PV!
I just checked it works.
http://www.yinyuetai.com/video/375306

kotora 17th March 2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RayJason (Post 2835222)
Pass me that bucket I feel like vomiting too. :no lol


I hope we would not change AHS to TiS.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 17th March 2012 01:22 PM

omg it's loading now. It looks more interesting than NaNaNa, and that's a plus!

nanakopy87 17th March 2012 01:24 PM

so,NaNaNa and Shake It are connected to each other?

RayJason 17th March 2012 01:26 PM

It looks like the same guy who did progress worked on this PV? You know.. the stupid highschool project fast forwarding thing? Not liking it at all. :( Thanks for sharing! (btw the PV turns black later on, is that supposed to happen?)

@kotora I totally see that happening lol :laugh

isthisLOL? 17th March 2012 01:31 PM

progress was a masterpiece, this is the type of mediocre stuff I'm used to from American PVs. It's definitely better than NaNaNa though.

Tom Punks 17th March 2012 01:45 PM

Wow, that was awful.

Anchang 17th March 2012 01:50 PM

I watched shake it. PV is very good, Ayu ass shake it so sexy *_*

Rocky Raven 17th March 2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bondingo (Post 2835217)
Another potentially amazing PV ****ed over by Timmy. I hate him SO ****ING MUCH. I think I'm going to cancel my preorder. What's the point of getting the CD+DVD if the DVD is filled with 1 good PV, one so-so PV, and two that are atrociously awful?

Jack, u speak'd me out again, tks!:thud
Seriously, i just wish that Timmy would sign in AHS someday soon and read all negative comments for him & get himself out of Ayu's vid/music/life.

Tom Punks 17th March 2012 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocky Raven (Post 2835259)
Seriously, i just wish that Timmy would sign in AHS someday soon and read all negative comments for him & get himself out of Ayu's vid/music/life.

I don't. Not that I like him being in everything, but I imagine his feelings would be really, really hurt if he saw everything that was said about him. >_>

stickyrice 17th March 2012 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayJason (Post 2835242)
It looks like the same guy who did progress worked on this PV? You know.. the stupid highschool project fast forwarding thing? Not liking it at all. :( Thanks for sharing! (btw the PV turns black later on, is that supposed to happen?)

@kotora I totally see that happening lol :laugh

I dont think the video is suppose to be that fast... it's just how it was uplaoded or whatever. it's all out of sync.

isthisLOL? 17th March 2012 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Punks (Post 2835260)
I don't. Not that I like him being in everything, but I imagine his feelings would be really, really hurt if he saw everything that was said about him. >_>

He knows about the stuff that is said about him here and elsewhere. But the majority of the people who write the really negative(and oftentimes insulting) comments are scumbags anyways and he realizes that. From what I can tell he just pays attention to constructive criticism and does his best to avoid/ignore the rest.

Moonstar 17th March 2012 02:27 PM

I am actually sick of all the Timmy hate. he clearly is good for her at that moment. it was all the same with shuya when he was just a lot everybody hated him. sometimes I think people cant be happy without hating someone near ayu.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 17th March 2012 02:29 PM

I liked Shake it! It has more of a story line, and it's fun :yes

I approve.

Aderianu 17th March 2012 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Punks (Post 2835260)
I don't. Not that I like him being in everything, but I imagine his feelings would be really, really hurt if he saw everything that was said about him. >_>

Also ayu's feeling will be hurt

her "fans" are really awful. They hate Mannie, Nao and Juno. now it's time for them to hate Timmy...

isthisLOL? 17th March 2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 2835280)
Also ayu's feeling will be hurt

her "fans" are really awful. They hate Mannie, Nao and Juno. now it's time for them to hate Timmy...

Don't forget Peco and Shuya, those got so much hate, too...and Shimoko.
For Ayu fans disliking something is never enough, they always have to hate the people involved...

SURREAL__RAINBOW 17th March 2012 02:40 PM

I think ayufans are horrible too. They're selfish and spoiled. I wish they would be more like kuu's fans, who always celebrate every little thing she does :shrug

I try to enjoy everything ayu does, not to judge it so harshly like many of you do. And it also makes me feel less bitter like many of you seem to be :rolleyes I say when I don't like something, but still I don't go on and on about something to the point of making others feel bad.

Like I'm not even going to say how many damn times you guys ruined things for me with your awful and selfish comments.

Calico 17th March 2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Luna62 (Post 2835229)
Shake it PV!
I just checked it works.
http://www.yinyuetai.com/video/375306

omg this confused me so bad. The picture is about half speed so I was sooooo bored and didn't realize it was off until the end when there was random lipsyncing to nothing :laugh

ExodusUK 17th March 2012 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocky Raven (Post 2835259)
Jack, u speak'd me out again, tks!:thud
Seriously, i just wish that Timmy would sign in AHS someday soon and read all negative comments for him & get himself out of Ayu's vid/music/life.

I hope he reads them and chains himself to Ayu forever just make all y'all mad.

RayJason 17th March 2012 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyrice (Post 2835261)
I dont think the video is suppose to be that fast... it's just how it was uplaoded or whatever. it's all out of sync.

Yeah I spoke too soon lol. I should have figured that out since the vid stopped so quickly! Now downloading the 'good' version :laugh

lol Hating Mannie? That's too much :S.

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Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2835289)
I think ayufans are horrible too. They're selfish and spoiled. I wish they would be more like kuu's fans, who always celebrate every little thing she does :shrug

Most Koda fans are typical ayu, namie, kana, [insert succesful j-pop artist] BASHERS. They're immature and live in their own world.

bondingo 17th March 2012 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocky Raven (Post 2835259)
Jack, u speak'd me out again, tks!:thud
Seriously, i just wish that Timmy would sign in AHS someday soon and read all negative comments for him & get himself out of Ayu's vid/music/life.

Yes! Though I'm sure he'll be gone by the next album considering the way Ayu works, which is good to know.

As for many of the other comments: so we're bad people if we don't like him and voice our opinion? It's just like when people say they don't like an Ayu song and give perfectly valid reasons, yet are still told they aren't good fans because they should support whatever she does because it's what's in her heart. The incredibely sweeping generalizations that come with criticizing everyone who doesn't like Timmy are some of the most ignorant things I've ever read on this board, and THAT is saying something considering this forum. You people make me sick.

MissElin_ 17th March 2012 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bondingo (Post 2835299)
As for many of the other comments: so we're bad people if we don't like him and voice our opinion? It's just like when people say they don't like an Ayu song and give perfectly valid reasons, yet are still told they aren't good fans because they should support whatever she does because it's what's in her heart. The incredibely sweeping generalizations that come with criticizing everyone who doesn't like Timmy are some of the most ignorant things I've ever read on this board, and THAT is saying something considering this forum. You people make me sick.

+1

It's very easy for the offended Ayu fans to call the "non believers" for "stans" or whatever just because they don't like anything. Naturally there's also a difference in how people express how they don't like a song or a PV or something else. But most of the times it's actually valid reasons and just to call those people bad fans is really unnecessary imo. Evryone won't like everything and that is more than okay. :)

SURREAL__RAINBOW 17th March 2012 03:08 PM

Well I said there's a difference between giving your whatever valid reasons which is fine, and harshly bashing ayu, or whoever works with ayu for that matter. People are so unconsidered and selfish that bashing anything and everyone is fine, to the point of even bullying someone :shrug

I complain too, big thing, but I don't take it upon someone and hate them for stupid things like working with my favorite singer and don't liking what they've done. I didn't like some of the things she did with shimoko, but I liked many of them too, a lot.

So yeah, my comment isn't stupid, you should read properly.

Earth_maiden 17th March 2012 03:13 PM

I think that bagging on Timmy for his height and hair colour is just silly. How would you feel if people were judging you on your physical looks and *****ing about it online constantly? The things he's told to me have made me genuinely sad that people are so shallow, negative and hateful on someone who is just living his dreams.

and yeah, I do feel I know him, we're friends and have spoken a number of times, so yeah, I believe I know more about him than the average member... :shrug

bondingo 17th March 2012 03:14 PM

@SURREAL__RAINBOW: Who said your comment was stupid? I wasn't even referring to yours in particular, but most of the ones I've read recently regarding people who don't like Timmy.

But now that you've responded: exactly who is bullying Timmy? Are people going to his twitter and Facebook and telling him they hate him? If they are then I certainly don't approve of that, but as far as I know, people aren't (and I'm certainly not). I wouldn't give a **** if Timmy's crappy compositions and gaudy vocals were given to some artist I don't listen to, but they weren't; they were given to Ayu, and as a fan of about 6 years now, I have every right to dislike him if I believe he's causing the quality of her songs or albums to decline.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 17th March 2012 03:16 PM

Actually yes, there are people attacking him through facebook, people who actually added him in the first place.

So it is getting out of control.

bondingo 17th March 2012 03:18 PM

^Well that's not right. I don't agree with bullying at all, but I'll continue to honestly express my opinion of him here because that's why I joined this board, so I could voice my opniion of Ayu and her work.

Earth_maiden 17th March 2012 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2835315)
Actually yes, there are people attacking him through facebook, people who actually added him in the first place.

So it is getting out of control.

it's disgusting, some ayu fans sicken me. :headache

(this isn't at you bodingo)

Corvina 17th March 2012 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayJason (Post 2835298)

Most Koda fans are typical ayu, namie, kana, [insert succesful j-pop artist] BASHERS. They're immature and live in their own world.

I've experienced it the other way round actually, most die hard Kuu fans are also big fans of other artists.
There are bad ones as well of cousre like with any other fandom, but here at AHS there are much more positive ones imo. :shrug
(tbh, you're bashing Kuu fans right now...)


Does anybody have another stream link for the PV?
Cause my download is pretty slow for whatever reasons, meh.

Moonstar 17th March 2012 03:46 PM

it really is out of control!and it is not good whats going on. I love that album and it has very good quality. seriously some people believe they are ayus manager ore what?they decided who she can work with?it is ridicoulus

Ayusan 17th March 2012 03:55 PM

Some of you make me want to cry of despair ! Mr Wellard knows that the business world isn't Carebears land ! If he can't handle the harshest critics then he can quit now, no one is gonna cry for this ! And only paying attention to good critics is the most stupid thing ever, how do you want to progress if you just pay attention to praises?!

Because a lot find him crappy make us bad fans ? But come on, if we THINK he is not talented, ruined PVs and songs it is our rights and maybe a truth, but it's not yours right to tell us we are spoiled ( what is the relation anyway o-o ) or dunno what else ! That doesn't make us bad fans or dunno what else, and the fact you lick Wellard's a$$ doesn't make you better ! The fact you try hard to enjoy Ayu's works make you even worst ! You shouldn't have to force yourself to like something ! That's not being all mellow about him that you will be able to better reach Ayu!

In my opinion the guys can't compose anything valuable, his appearances annoyed me to no end and I just hope he will quit because he just doesn't fit at all! I don't give a damn that he is gay or what else, but it bugs me that he makes believe that all gay dress like drag queen all day long !

Ayumi is a solo act, not a duo or else, then having him everywhere screw my brain.

Now that you say that the "bashers" are some others jpop singer fans or do the same elsewhere or dunno what else .... not in my case anyway, through the music I listen, Ayumi is like a sore thumb! Through all the jpop crap she is the only one I have been able to stand!

Now if you think that in the metal world no one is bashed or anything else, you are so wrong, I read worst about some bands that what I can read here about Ayumi.
Let's take an example, Nightwish dumped their singer Tarja in 2006 ( if I remember right) in 2012 their own fans still bash ( and more than harshly for some) their new singer since 2007!

I read elsewhere someone calling us jealous, wishing to work for ayu,blablabla ... seriously, Ayumi would ask me to work for/with her I would refuse ! I've never dream of that lol and as being a girl, why should envy anything from Mr Wellard o-o he could work for ayu, as long he doesn't show himself nor put his voice everywhere, but he is a too much young compositor to work with someone like Ayu, the guys should work more on his side, or why not work for someone less known ?! But no, he is everywhere and this is a big no no no for me as Ayumi is supposed to be a solo act.

Ayumi is the sore thumb through all the metal genres I listen and if she keeps him on songs and everything, I will just walk away. She is a fresh air I need times to times but I can live without anything new from hers. Her work until LS is fine to me and half of PQ is as well, so I would stick with her olds work and not follow her anymore. As simple than this. Though I would quit as well if she doesn't fix her vocals! Kyo from DEG acquired a harnessed of his voice that Ayumi will never react, he worked hard for this, but it's like she doesn't care much about this, she takes some lessons, use the technique very badly and think all is ok .... no it's not.

kimmeh 17th March 2012 04:25 PM

I dont mind Timmy in this vid at all; i don't feel like he's stealing the limelight. He could basically be anyone. Same goes for NaNaNa.

BUT; what I do mind is WTF IS THIS VIDEO? ITS SO BAD. ITS VERY BAD. I'm serious, it sucks. Ayu please do your PVs in Japan; theyre much better than the **** they're making in London. Seriously; w-t-f.

My Rainbow 17th March 2012 04:45 PM

bunch of stupid "fans" who hate everything and insult everybody... you should all get a life and leave the other people alone. you make us all sick!!!

Pieces_of_SEVEN 17th March 2012 05:06 PM

At first I wasn't feeling it, but it's a fun PV! The first minute where there was no ayu, I was like THIS BETTER NOT BE ANOTHER PROGRESS!!!! LOL

Onton 17th March 2012 05:10 PM

I just wanna say......I'm speechless.......
I believe that Arts like Music or Video are literally neutral...
So basically when a new song/video come out..It is undoubtedly someone hate it or someone like it..just that it's 99 vs 1 or 50 vs 50..

Thanks Timmy for paying effort for giving all new elements to ayu.
the Next Love and E.S.M. are experimental and it's good for ayu.

Im sad for Ayu..
From Shuya. Mannie. Neo. Juno..Now Timmy..

Pieces_of_SEVEN 17th March 2012 05:11 PM

Shake it♥ ... sha-shake it LALA ♥

kimmeh 17th March 2012 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Rainbow (Post 2835430)
bunch of stupid "fans" who hate everything and insult everybody... you should all get a life and leave the other people alone. you make us all sick!!!

Aren't people allowed to voice their own opinion anymore?

Pieces_of_SEVEN 17th March 2012 06:40 PM

People are attacking Timmy? This is news to me...and I wouldn't be surprised if it's people who added him. Two-faced moronic idiots. Get a life. I don't agree with everything Timmy has done for ayu, but it has NOTHINGGGGG to do with his physical appearance, lifestyle choices, or sexual preference. All of you judgmental people need a reality check, AND a morality check.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimmeh (Post 2835539)
Aren't people allowed to voice their own opinion anymore?

Not if it's hateful, malicious, or intended to hurt someone else, no, they shouldn't be.

isthisLOL? 17th March 2012 07:01 PM

I love how people take things as "what, we're not allowed to voice our opinion if we don't like him?!?" when nobody said that. We pointed out that stating your opinion IN AN INSULTING WAY(some words I have seen thrown around directed not even at Timmy's work but Timmy himself were really harsh, so harsh they could get you fined if someone decided to sue you) is not acceptable.
You can voice negative crisiticm constructively(meaning: with reasoning, without insults) as well. For example I don't like the back-up singers Ayumi had before she got Peco and Princess, I never insulted them, so why do people have to insult Timmy?
If you don't like him feel free to say that, but when you go around insulting him that goes quite far. Especially since hs most likely frequents this forum to some extent and can see those hurtful comments(he seems to know a lot about what's going on here and for some reason he found my blog when it was only linked here, so he probably either frequents this forum or has friends who do)

Pieces_of_SEVEN 17th March 2012 07:02 PM

^^Thank you for expanding on my comment. lol :)

kimmeh 17th March 2012 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isthisLOL? (Post 2835584)
I love how people take things as "what, we're not allowed to voice our opinion if we don't like him?!?" when nobody said that. We pointed out that stating your opinion IN AN INSULTING WAY(some words I have seen thrown around directed not even at Timmy's work but Timmy himself were really harsh, so harsh they could get you fined if someone decided to sue you) is not acceptable.
You can voice negative crisiticm constructively(meaning: with reasoning, without insults) as well. For example I don't like the back-up singers Ayumi had before she got Peco and Princess, I never insulted them, so why do people have to insult Timmy?
If you don't like him feel free to say that, but when you go around insulting him that goes quite far. Especially since hs most likely frequents this forum to some extent and can see those hurtful comments(he seems to know a lot about what's going on here and for some reason he found my blog when it was only linked here, so he probably either frequents this forum or has friends who do)

I agree on this; but going all "you should all get a life and leave the other people alone. you make us all sick!!!" isn't really the best way?

I've seen some pretty strong opinions on Timmy here; and I'll be honest and say I don't like his presence in everything Ayu is doing these days. (Return Road without Timmy's chanting please.) but I haven't seen anyone actually bashing him for being a human being/gay; they're more angry that he's too loud in Ayus songs and appearing everywhere.

I'm pro Timmy influence, but against him being in everything Ayu is doing; its Ayumi Hamasaki, not Ayumi Hamasaki + Timmy. But its most certainly just a phase; and it will pass soon enough.

People who bash on him because of his lifestyle choices (gay) or his personality(more than "he's so stupid! I hate him!") should be banned from the forum; as this is not relevant whatsoever to what this forum consists of. So far I haven't seen this on the forum; just talk about how people hate hating on him on fb and twitter.

Also; this might sound as a douchy thing; but Timmy should have somewhat seen this coming; fans are insane and will hate your guts for no reason.

TL;DR I don't think this forum is as mean as you're implying; but haters that hate on his personal life should gtfo.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 17th March 2012 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimmeh (Post 2835625)

People who bash on him because of his lifestyle choices (gay) or his personality(more than "he's so stupid! I hate him!") should be banned from the forum; as this is not relevant whatsoever to what this forum consists of. So far I haven't seen this on the forum; just talk about how people hate hating on him on fb and twitter.

Also; this might sound as a douchy thing; but Timmy should have somewhat seen this coming; fans are insane and will hate your guts for no reason.

TL;DR I don't think this forum is as mean as you're implying; but haters that hate on his personal life should gtfo.

This to the 3984539847593845th power.

kimmeh 17th March 2012 07:31 PM

thank you :)
i was slightly worried i came off as a major ***** earlier for the "voice our opinion" thing.

Yumsushi 17th March 2012 08:53 PM

I agree with you Kimmeh to a point. I just went on facebook and twitter to see all this terrible bashing and couldn't find anything. Regardless, I didn't see anyone saying anything extremely negative about Timmy here. I honestly couldn't care if he sees what is said about him at AHS because he's not a baby that needs to be protected and if he couldn't handle any criticism then he shouldn't be freely available on public media to reach.However, to say that "he should expect it because fans are insane and hate your guts" is also generalizing no?

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Originally Posted by isthisLOL? (Post 2835584)
You can voice negative crisiticm constructively(meaning: with reasoning, without insults) as well. For example I don't like the back-up singers Ayumi had before she got Peco and Princess, I never insulted them, so why do people have to insult Timmy?

I also don't think I have to add something constructive along with anything negative I say to appeal to your idea of appropriate criticism. You need to stop taking this defend Timmy moral high-ground cause it seems like you're his mom hellbent on protecting him from the big bad fans. Its making him even more pathetic actually. Go defend him on facebook if its so bad there and tell us all bout it.

And with that, I want a Timmy vocal-free PQ app pls.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 17th March 2012 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Yumsushi (Post 2835760)
I agree with you Kimmeh to a point. I just went on facebook and twitter to see all this terrible bashing and couldn't find anything. Regardless, I didn't see anyone saying anything extremely negative about Timmy here. I honestly couldn't care if he sees what is said about him at AHS because he's not a baby that needs to be protected and if he couldn't handle any criticism then he shouldn't be freely available on public media to reach.However, to say that "he should expect it because fans are insane and hate your guts" is also generalizing no?



I also don't think I have to add something constructive along with anything negative I say to appeal to your idea of appropriate criticism. You need to stop taking this defend Timmy moral high-ground cause it seems like you're his mom hellbent on protecting him from the big bad fans. Its making him even more pathetic actually. Go defend him on facebook if its so bad there and tell us all bout it.

And with that, I want a Timmy vocal-free PQ app pls.

I will say that you have good points. I still don't think it's OK for certain "fans" to be talking **** they way they are...like being hateful and judgmental. Imo there's no excuse for that.

Yumsushi 17th March 2012 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2835775)
I will say that you have good points. I still don't think it's OK for certain "fans" to be talking **** they way they are...like being hateful and judgmental. Imo there's no excuse for that.

Yes I agree with that, but again, I haven't actually seen anything I would consider hateful or personal like death threats or mocking his lifestyle etc here so we're just going around in circles. I know I personally have said thing that could be considered "mean" but its nothing I will lose any sleep over if poor Timmy sheds a tear or two. The best example of horrific fan behavior is is the Beiber crazy obsessed fan response to Esperanza Spalding's Grammy win over him. There were death threats and alot of horrific unacceptable stuff said to that poor girl. AHS is nothing compared to that.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 17th March 2012 09:23 PM

^^yeah that **** (death threats, etc.) is ridic. People seriously have problems. If anyone on AHS is feeling that way, please, go to your doctor and get a prescription for Seroquel and Abilify.

PoetGirl 17th March 2012 10:17 PM

omg you guys. Im annoyed how some people are overprotecting timmy. people who like/dislike his work they like/dislike HIS WORK. when you produce a piece of art, everyone have a right to say 'your work is one giant ****', if timmy or any other artist is scared of criticism HE WOULDNT BE DOING IT, and if he cant sleep throught night because of it then damn you are in the wrong business honey. Just because you've spoked to the person doesnt mean you must see their song as THEM. dont you get it? I work with designers, models, singers, celebrities, but I never let our private relationship to influence my view on their work. In fact, they would appreaciate my honest opinion. you guys should all grow up and live the ****ing life.

and this all comes from a person that actually likes timmy and his work. not because he is such an awesome person, I couldnt care less, just because its new and fresh in ayu's discography.

about pv, I didnt enjoy it. it was embarassing.

RayJason 17th March 2012 10:27 PM

^ omfg no one is taking rights away from people. It's just that they find that bashing, bullying and hating on Timmy goes too far.

I do agree with you, though.

Yumsushi 17th March 2012 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2835800)
^^yeah that **** (death threats, etc.) is ridic. People seriously have problems. If anyone on AHS is feeling that way, please, go to your doctor and get a prescription for Seroquel and Abilify.

Yes but the pharmacist in me has to ask, would anyone really be on two antipsychotics simultaneously?

Pieces_of_SEVEN 17th March 2012 10:31 PM

I think all that a lot of us are saying is that it's OK to dislike something, most times you don't even need a reason, as it is simply your taste, but it is not acceptable to be hateful, offensive, rude, etc. You still have to respect people. Some of the comments made on fb and twitter are utterly disgusting.

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Originally Posted by Yumsushi (Post 2835876)
Yes but the pharmacist in me has to ask, would anyone really be on two antipsychotics simultaneously?

Yes, honestly I see it prescribed all the time.

Yumsushi 17th March 2012 10:36 PM

Hmm maybe US guidelines are different. I've never seen that and don't see why that would be the case.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 17th March 2012 10:38 PM

^^Where are you from? I'm not saying it's therapeutic, but some doctors... :shrug ... I've also seen SSRI's being prescribed PRN...I don't get it. Anyway...back on topic.

I've made a poll for "Which PV do you like better- Shake it or NaNaNa?" so go and vote :)

Anna-chan 18th March 2012 09:02 AM

I think she grows old. can`t live with that fact and trys to stay 20 forever. I feel sorry for her.

kotora 18th March 2012 01:04 PM

People can't express their opinions and everyone has to listen to certain people blaming?

Some people asking others to grow up need to grow up as well. You express your damn opinions, and others can express their views as well. It is not "all about you" idea.

And how many damn posts those members have? Less than 100 since 2007? And now popping out to yell at people how *****ty AHS members are? Who are those people thinking they are? Attention Wh*re? Surely, they got BIG attention.



On the other hand, I neither like nor dislike Timmy, but I think he shows up on ayu's PVs a lot recently. He seems taking few ayu team staff works and do them all by him.

yamadashun 18th March 2012 01:31 PM

i agree that people has the rights to express any opinion in a constructive way.even if it's a criticism, it should be towards the matter but not to hurt the person involved. i do not wish another "ayu-asking-for-fans-not-to-attack-Nao" case.

as for the PV, i think it is better than NaNaNa... maybe at least ayu looks better in it and there is a clearer storyline. Timmy actually looks quite handsome in the "manly" suit wear.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 18th March 2012 04:59 PM

Shake It♥ Sha-shake it LALA ♥

"Where U @ *****?"

bondingo 19th March 2012 07:48 AM

Funny how so many people are changing their words around after "Timmy bashers" defended their arguments in a civil way, completely unlike what everyone seems to think they're doing :rolleyes

I haven't seen a single person on this forum say anything about Timmy's personal life or even hating him for the way he looks. It's all been about him being in Ayu's PVs and songs, taking up space that should belong to the real star. I don't know when half of this board became his best friend. Maybe they think saying only nice things about him and brown-nosing the guy will somehow get them closer to Ayu (hint: it won't).

Anyways, that's pretty much all I have left to say on the subject at this point.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 23rd March 2012 05:48 AM

^^exactly, people have a lot of **** to say until the person they're talking about actually confronts them. hmph.

Didz-19 23rd March 2012 06:03 AM

Hey!!! Madonna is older than Ayu! She even do the party video clip in "Sorry". So i think age doesn't makes sense when someone partyinggggg~~~Both PV, NaNaNa and Shake it, have party theme~

Pieces_of_SEVEN 23rd March 2012 06:16 AM

I mean, realistically, you can party at any age. There just becomes an age where people criticize you for it. And that age is definitely lower in Japan.


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