Ayu ranked 42 in HMV Japan's Top 100 Jpop Artists
 

That's great~ I know it's difficult to be just ranked in there but yeh, still, I wish Ayu would've been higher ranked, say in the 20's or something. ^^;;

boo~ >.<

ummmm...why 40's.... who was rank 1:curse

Yea.. why is it 40th rank!? it should be no 1... maybe it is going upward

Calm down everyone I think some of you have a too high expectation for ayu... -_- Those artists ranked within top 20 were from 1970's-1980's and their popularities and impacts were a lot more impressive during that time than the 1990's and recent ones.

yep, gotta love the 80's... guess that goes for all countries ^_^ Still Ayu is the best now :)

hikki still made it to 24 tho...
and shiina was higher than ayu as well

Shena Ringo deserves her hgher rank as her music still remains is one of its kind. Hikki, I don't know, well she still holds the record for best selling Jpop album of all time. But if you want quantity, Ayu's could easily bury Hikki with all her stuff.

i guess is something like....music station count down... last time ayumi got in 4 or 3 place while hikki got around 14

Well, I think it goes by different standards. Perhaps they judge by CD sales or survey on their popularity. Still, it's cheers for Ayu for getting in!

i guess itz their impact on society...those artists high up like momoe yamaguchi and sakamoto kyu are one of a kind, with huge impact in the society years after their resignation or death...i guess ayu just isn't at that point that

hikki and shiina ringo have their own uniqueness in the jpop industry, especially, consider the impact she has on the whole jpop industry that suddenly everyone is interested in R&B after the release of her first album....

She should be first....

haha..this year wasnt exactly "spectacular" ..:shrug
at least she's in teh top 50 right? :laugh

i guess this isn't a yearly thing....look at how the top artists are from the 80's and 70's...i guess they are lookin at a period overall :)

In the first half of the 90s
15. Flippers Guitar
19. Blue Hearts
28. Kazumasa Oda
37. Toshinobu Kubota
40. X Japan
43. Cornelius
45. Dreams Come True
60. Tatsuya Ishii
70. Tomoyasu Hotei
71. Tokyo Ska Paradaise Orchestra
72. Lisa Ono
73. Blankey Jet City
79. Kenji Ozawa
83. Fishmans
84. Noriyuki Makihara
89. Original Love
90. Luna Sea
100. Begin

In the second half of the 90s
12. Keisuke Kuwata
21. Tetsuya Komuro
27. Mr Children
29. Spitz
30. B'z
31. Pizzicato Five
36. Ringo Shiina
51. Misia
53. Namie Amuro
58. L'Arc�`en�`Ciel
62. Chage & Aska
63. Dragon Ash
64. Hi-standard
65. Glay
69. Smap
77. Michelle Gun Elephant
78. Denki Groove
81. Yellow Monkey
96. Judy And Mary
97. Zeebra
98. Crazy Ken Band
99. Ua

In 2000 and afterwards
24. Hikaru Utada
42. Ayumi Hamasaki :P
74. quruli
85. Ken Hirai
87. Rip Slyme
95. Mondo Grosso

This is time which they mainly played an active part.
Utada is most younger in 100
Ayu is the second youngest in 100.
This ranking shows the influence has given to Japanese music.
So this doesn't always show popularity and sells power.
Supposing we consider the influence to overseas,
a different result will be brought.

hm...slightly dissapointed...but still happy:)

Thx for the info.. Who's no.1 though?

alright! the pizzicato five are in there. they rule. i soooo wish ayu was ranked higher. that sucks. shiina ringo and hikki are awesome.

Thanks For The list ^^....Well..Ayu Doesn't seem That bad..the Second Singer that came From the years 2000....Well Congrats To Ayu!!:D:P

number one isn't out yet..itz gonna be out nov 30~

although it doesn't say in the site yet..number 2 - 7 are as follows:

2) Yellow Magic Orchestra 70's - 80's
3) Matsutoya Yumi �¼”C’J—RŽÀ(�rˆä—RŽÀ) 70's - now --> original singer of Ayu's Setsugyo Shashin
4) Happy End ‚Í‚Á‚Ò‚¢‚¦‚ñ‚Ç 70's
5) Misora Hibari ”ü‹ó‚Ђ΂è 50's - 60's --> original singer of Matsu Aya's kusaen no hito
6) Yamashita Tatsuro ŽR‰º’B˜Y 70's-80's

they are all very influential figures in the jpop industry

it would have been cool if ayu ranked higher...but she did pretty well! At least she ranked higher than a lot of those artists!! She seems to be doing very well!

evil!! X-japan should have been way up there!!!! THEY ARE SOOO GOOD!!!!!! >. aaaa kisama!!!!! ><

Wait a second... I disagree with this number forty two stuff!!! Who always has her bilboard plastered of Shibuya 109? A lot of times its ayu. Who has a million gazillion ads on TV? ayu. Who was number 30 in the world charts? Ayu. Who's new releases are ALWAYS number one on the oricon charts? Ayu. There's no way she's a forty two when her new releases are always at number one for at least a week or two. I think the people who took this did a crappy job. Ever notice whenever people describe popular j-pop artists in magazines ayu is not one of them. The thing is, these days people are getting ayumi prejiduce. I remember an old site I went to before I knew about ayu, a hikki site: they said, The said ayumi was the most popluar, but they also said she didn't deserve the title. Thats what many people think. I think this is list is based on who THEY THINK IS OR WHO SHOULD BE the most popular. Also people think that Ayumi really isn't that popular, it's just false information on the oricon charts.

Wow I'm surprised Ayu is only 42 o.o I think she should be above Hikaru Utada.. at least in the top 20...

i agree that very often ppl are tryin to put down ayu these days...tryin to say that she isn't popular or anything

but i think the chart of hmv measures a different thing here...a lot of those influential like being top on chart, TV ads etc etc occurs to many other artists in the chart too...what makes like the top 10 different is their influence in the jpop industry as to the direction of where the music would go..where the industry is gonna go.....and honestly i dun think ayu is quite there yet....ayu has great power over the audience now but not particular towards the industry as a whole

The chart seems to measure artists from several decades, not just from the past few years. While Ayu may have gotten things moving in the Jpop world, that accounts for only the past 5 years or so, not like other artists on there who may have been around much longer. I quite doubt that this was made because people hated Ayu or anything, as Ayuspeed suggested. Sure... we all like Ayu, and think she's awesome, but when you're contending with much more well-known artists in the past like Seiko Matsuda, a woman who's been around for over 20 years and is still going strong, Ayu can't compare to that.

In a sense, this could be related to the issue about Hikki being in Guiness. Ayu may be the #1 topic here, but that doesn't mean she's #1 globally, or sells the most CDs. Ayu may be on billboards and such, and she may be a good part of Avex's share, but once again, it's overall figures that allow Ayu to get at least 42 in the HMV rankings.

Oh Unimatrix and mimika, thank you for restoring my faith in the sensibility of ayu fans!!

it does seem kinda sad they gave her 42... she should be in the top 10

GET OVER IT!!! The list is based on the past 3 or 4 decades or so. If you see a list like this for American music, there's no way someone like Britney Spears (whose face is plastered all over the place like Ayu's) will be ranked very highly up. You'll see the Beatles, Bob Dylan, Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson, etc. These people are legends. Ayu's only been around for 5 years or so, she's not even close to being a legend yet. #42 is a very reasonable place for her to be.

linzy chill... dont get mad

I didn't get mad, I'm just showing you guys how unreasonable you all are and how blinded you are by your love for Ayu.

O_x; <-- is a little shellshocked.

Yeah... We're ALL unreasonable. I'm TOTALLY blinded by my love for ayu. Everyone on this forum is TOTALLY blinded by fan-love. (And if they're not, what are they doing here?) Even you are, you just don't know it. (^^); <--is being sarcastic. Seriously, though, don't attack people just because you disagree with them...

~

Anyway, I thought, "Wow! To be ranked in the top 100!" I think it's great and an honor to be in the top 50, even! Amuro was in ayu's shoes in the mid-1990s and she got a lower ranking. It's obvious that ayu's really influenced the business in the past few years. A lot of artists are writing lyrics for themselves, even pop idols. And the fashion trends are obviously influenced by her. It's so cool that she was on the list!

And of course I was expecting SAS, Matsuda, Sakamoto Ryu (Ue wo muite arukou...) and them to be on the list. But I guess I was sad to see Dreams Come True so far down on the list when I'd consider them a lot more influencial than Utada Hikaru or Shiina Ringo. After all, they DID make it into the top three for most albums sold in the decade of 1990. Ah well, it's obviously not a definitive list or anything.

Cheer up, everyone. ^^

Okay... first of all don't compare her to britney spears. Ayu's popular is greater than her's ever was. And I'm not blinded. I just think she should at least be in the top 30. Top 30. Definetly not top ten. Not top twenty. Just thirty. I hadn't even considered veteran artists.

come on guys.. lets not fight over something silly..
lets keep it peacefull

If you mean Seiko Matsuda, she's #10 on the list ;)

Britney is far more popular than Ayu. She sells records in practically every country in the world, while Ayu is virtually unknown outside of East Asia. Britney's record sales surpass those of Ayu easily. She has won many more awards from all over the world than Ayu has. I'm not bashing Ayu and praising Britney, because I would take Ayu over Britney anyday. I just don't understand why you think Ayu's popularity is greater than Britney's ever was.

Why do you think she should be ranked in the top 30 instead of top 40? Name 10 artists ranked above Ayu in that list that should be bumped down to make room for Ayu in the top 30. I think a lot of you have never heard of the majority of the artists on the list (who are legends) and their contribution to the Japanese music industry.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to come off as bashing people, but that's just the way the majority of the people at this forum come off. As a bunch of rabid fans who think Ayu's the best thing to ever grace the planet and that no other worthy singer has ever existed. I didn't mean that everyone here acts that way, and I know I wrote "all of you". That's was bad wording on my part, sorry! ;)

dun feel so sad at least ayu is the 2nd youngest in the ranking

whats your problem???? coming in here starting up things??
can you read??? what does it says?? ayumi hamasaki sekai
wat this supose to mean...??? britney spears fans???

this place is just for ayumi fans... if you dont like it dont come in here again... if it bother you ....ayu fan here...think ayu is the best thing ever.. dont come ...that simple.. but dont come in here starting things up..

damn... wats your problem... i'm sure if you went to some other
singer forum.. their fans would think that singer is the best...its normal...they fan.....of the singer..

EXCUSE ME???? I AM an Ayu fan! I own all of her original albums. I look forward to all of her releases. But that does NOT mean that I think she should be higher on a list than other, older, legendary singers in Japan. My God!! I know you think Ayu is the best, but that doesn't mean you have to disregard all the singers that have been around for decades. And I am NOT a Britney Spears fan. Can't YOU read? I stated that in my other post. I don't like her and have never been a fan of hers. But that doesn't mean I don't think she's popular. I was stating FACTS! What's wrong with that? I'm not coming here to start trouble, I've been at this forum for a long time (although I don't post much). I'm just trying to open your eyes to reality. Ayu is not the most popular singer in the world, nor is she more deserving to be on that stupid list than anyone else. So get over it!

hmmm.. not bad.. i kinda dissapointed to see ayu in top 40 not in top 20 just like Hikki. If you count the total sales of their album (Hikki-ayu) ayu is still higher..
Oh well...Congrat to Ayu!

when did you see me post i think ayumi is more popular than brit????


what i'm trying to tell you if does ayumi fans think shes the best
let them be... or are they hurting you... or asking you to open their eyes..:roflmao

you cant make people think same as you..... get that inside your head....cause if i start thinking same way as you.... i would go into
hikki/boa ectz fan forums to open their eyes to..:roflmao lets just forget and let the topic keep going..


by the way... i didnt say you were a britney fan... i was trying to tell you its and ayumi fan forum.. and ull see fans like does that like her alot... that why its a place for ayumi fans.. ull see harcore fans and people just getting to like her.. newbies in other words

so lets forget and move on.......

Why are you all fighting about this? Tetsuo... you usually say here and in other jpop forums that people shouldn't fight, but one thing to consider is that saying someone's opinion is wrong is just the same as starting an argument. While not everyone may like Britney here, it doesn't mean that she can't be talked about here. So Ayu's not #1 on the HMV list... does that make her useless or some "dried-up" singer? No. Ayu's not the most popular singer out there, so we all should at least try to accept that.

nah i didnt got mad cause of her saying britney is more popular
cause i know she is.. shes international..... but what was wrong of her/he coming here calling us names(ayumi rabid fans )

dont you agreed... ull find hardcore fan in any ayumi forum ..that would think shes best... but what can you do about it... its how they think.. and no one cant change that .. unless their selfs....

anywayz... lets just move on:thumbsup

Utada so much in front!!!!!!! not fair!!!!!

Be realistic. 42 is a VERY reasonable place in an all-time list, although I do think Hikki ranking #24 is a but overexxagerated. Although Hikki sells more apparently [see Guiness book], that should be no excuse in the first place to rank her this high because I thought this list was not about sales. Second, I think both Hikki and Ayu have a lot of fans so the dedicated fanbase is probably somewhat equal. On the original factor; I seriously think Ayu is more original, because her music has a diversion that I haven't seen being equalled anywhere. Hikki's music is, although good, more of the same.

Other than that, come on: Ayu is NOT the only artist to come out of Japan. Japan has/had so many great and influential artists, you wouldn't believe. Many of these are already listed; like Cornelius and the stunning Pizzicato Five, to name two. I noted that someone said that Ryuichi Sakamoto wasn't listed yet. Maybe he'll be number one. He is probably one of the, if not THE most influential Japanese artists ever. So there.

I think Linzy had a very good point. Don't be narrowminded and go call her a not-fan or faker or whatever, she is actually being realistic here which I appreciate.

Nevertheless, I do think Hikki is a bit over-rated. Pwn.

And like Jose said, because she's ranked #42 doesn't mean she's a bad artist, not at all! #42 out of ALL JAPANESE ARTISTS EVER!!! So there! And last but not least, this list does not influence our fandom. We love her music, whether she's ranked #42, #1, or not even ranked at all.

It'd be curious to see how some of you would've reacted if Ayu wasn't mentioned at all. Like sxesven said, to be ranked is at least something worth being happy for, as she beat out other artists like Namie. Even still, it doesn't make her more or less of an artist because of these results. To me, I think this is all based on some rigid criteria, like album/single sales, advertising, involvement in the community, overall contribution to jpop, etc. So congrats to Ayu, as she's proven that time has yet to slow her down ;)

do you remember also last music station or heyx3 special.. not so long ago... she got rank 4places with seasons while in that same chart one of her songs (&) got rank above 70 i think... i think it wasnt based on sales... but maybe something like this...

That's why forums always have disadvantages, since people are free to express their opinions, you say what you want, he says his and I say mine, eventually everyone starts fighting with each other... -_-

And this forum has nothing but dedicated Ayu fans... imagine how it would go on forums with ppl who don't share this interest... I hate it when ppl bash her for nothing. I mean, they can express whatever opinion they want, but they should support their views with arguments and that's what's often missing. So we should be happy we at least do all support Ayu... otherwise this would have been total war prolly...

Thank you SO MUCH, sxesven! I wish other people could understand that I am not out to bash Ayu and cause trouble. I just think there's a lot of people here that are so unreasonable. I love Ayu, but she does not have the ledendary status that the people ranked higher on the list do.

Hikki may be overrated, but I can see why she is ranked so high. Her debut album, released when she was only 16, is the best selling Japanese album of all time. That is a huge accomplishment. I am also a Hikki fan, and I think she's extremely creative and intelligent.

I'm really surprised that Namie was ranked so low, though! She was soooo popular in the mid-90's. She was such a trendsetter and had a huge following.

doesnt hikki hold 2place ???? and some alse 1place???
not sure.... oh well...,,

No problemo :) you didn't deserve the bashing!

Tetsuo, I'm sure Hikki has had a #1 hit sometimes, but in this particular list she is placed at #24 ^_^

i think this was base on votes... and i'm sure all does old people that like singers from back then would vote for their old time fav...
pluss.. ayumi is only famous among teens... not old peeps

I doubt it's based on votes. I'm almost postive HMV made the lists themselves based on sales and other important factors. If it was based on votes, it's very unlikely that older generations would even take their time to vote. Only younger people really care about these types of lists enough to vote.

but umm... how can i say this... you just said...hikki has the best selling album ever in japan history... rite?? dont you think she would had ranke 1place??? and if it was total sales of everything they have reales.. ayumi would had out beat her.... she just finish beating ZARD in single sales if i'm not wrong...

I said "based on sales and other factors". That means it includes things like the impact they've had on the music scene, how long they've been able to last, etc etc.
Besides, even if it was based solely on sales (which it's not), Hikki still wouldn't be number 1. Just because she has the best selling album of all time, she has only released 3 full length albums. Some artists have released 15+, meaning in total they have sold way more than Hikki.

Totally with Linzy.

These lists are NOT just based on sales. Sales do NOT equal musical influence, or an artist's importance! They are a part of it, definitely! But some artists are BRILLIANT and sell almost nothing. My point is just that sales are not a good indicator for quality.

I think the list is pretty accurate. We always like to see our favorites ranked highest, but that's not realistic. So let's face it. Ayu is at #42. End of story.

ummm... but i aint saying ayumi should rank highest??? if she got ranke 42 was cause of something she didnt archive that other singers did:shrug

Come on... you're acting like all the other artists on this list did NOT achieve something. But they sure did! All of them are/were very influential and important artists! AYU BEING ONE OF THEM! I think one shouldn't bother about the exact placement so much, the fact that Ayu is ranked at all is worth an applause already! [like jose said!]

Remember that this is just one site ... if another site listed Ayu as dead last, would it matter to you? Her ranking in this list shouldn't matter much, as she did get ranked amonst some of the most well-known artists ever! It's great she's #42, and of course it'd be greater if she was higher, but once again, things like CD sales weren't the only factor in deciding this list.

you're acting like all the other artists on this list did NOT achieve something ?????

when i said that????

Sorry I wrote that down wrong. You said 'Did Ayu not achieve something the other singers did?' Sorry again. To answer your question:

No. They all achieved great things.

i know she did... she got ranke 42... but wat i was trying to say
was she didnt archive wat the top 10singers 20/30 did...

42 is ok... she can do better next time

end of story lets move on :thumbsup

Good idea :thumbsup

pS: did you get your name from Akira? [sorry for getting so offtopic but I'm mighty curious!]

i got it from l arc en ciel leader TETSUYA

Aha :D

Ok thnx :D

hey guys the result for number one is out:

Southen All Stars

and i think this is very fair results too

http://www.hmv.co.jp/news/newsDetail...snum=311040091

Aha, well ok, can't say that it's a wrong choice.

But eh, was Ryuichi Sakamoto listed at all?

Oh, I see, # 11. Good ^_^

I kinda miss Merzbow [Masami Akita] on this... not a big commercial succes, but an influential artist nevertheless... with a lengthy discography [and this one's not even complete!]

Wow, my sn is so much like Linzy's o_O That's a big coincidence.

42 is good out of the best 100 jpop artists of all time. Yeah, if it was a ranking of the best 100 jpop artists only in the 90's and now or something, 42 would be an unreasonable positioning for Ayu.

I definately think that 42 is great... I just don't rally agree with Hikki being ranked 24. I think she's a great artist, I just don't know if I would consider her THAT influencial :shrug

Ashley

This ranking is made by the impact for not Japanese people but Japanese music.
It may become subjective by HMV.�@

For example ,the sells of 15. Flippers Guitar is small.
But ,their creative power got high evaluation.

No suprise. SAS is #1 - they are the most influential group in jpop and are good. I'm suprised that Ayu got as high as #42. Very suprised. I believe there are a lot of artists behind her that could be switched. DCT as low as they were, they should have been top 20 easily. TK at 21 - Bah! He sucks - all his songs are same and he is a crappy music svengali. Still can't believe Zeebra made this list :shudder: Nanase Aikawa should have been on some part of it but I have no complaints to the top 10, they do make sense.

ayu
 

congrats to ayu... I wish she'll go to rank #1 :)

thanx for the info~
# 42 isn't bad :P

why is Utada Hikaru 24 while Ayu is only 42?T_T

Congrats ayu!

#42 is not bad at all... it really proves that ayu has influence on J-pop.

Surprise surprise, I'm quoting you again. The list is not about any one person's opinion, and certainly not yours. TK is a very influential producer who had great influence in the dance scene of the 90's. And you're not happy that Ayu's ranked as high as 42? Well I'm not even gonna argue about that...I bet you would've said 100 would've been too high for Ayu, had she made that rank.

datz ok...letz calm down people...

everyone has different opinion and they are all free to express it here rite? this is a friendly ayu community and watz most important is that we are all ayu fans rite? we are all here to support her and share her info and be FUN rite? :)

HMV Top 100 Japanese pops Artists
 

1. Southern All Stars
2. YMO
3. Yumi Matsutoya
4. Happy End
5. Hibari Misora
6. Tatsuro Yamashita
7. Momoe Yamaguchi
8. Yosui Inoue
9. Eiichi Otaki
10. Seiko Matsuda
11. Ryuichi Sakamoto
12. Keisuke Kuwata
13. Motoharu Sano
14. Eikichi Yazawa
15. Flippers Guitar
16. RC Succession
17. Kenji Sawada
18. Kyu Sakamoto
19. Blue Hearts
20. Miyuki Nakajima
21. Tetsuya Komuro
22. Boowy
23. Yutaka Ozaki
24. Hikaru Utada
25. Tamio Okuda
26. Mariya Takeuchi
27. Mr Children
28. Kazumasa Oda
29. Spitz
30. B'z
31. Pizzicato Five
32. Off Course
33. Murahachibu
34. Pink Lady
35. Tulip
36. Ringo Shiina
37. Toshinobu Kubota
38. Char
39. Godiego
40. X Japan
41. Yujiro Ishihara
42. Ayumi Hamasaki
43. Cornelius
44. Haruomi Hosono
45. Dreams Come True
46. Takuro Yoshida
47. Anzenchitai
48. Checkers
49. Candies
50. Yasuyuki Okamura
51. Misia
http://www.hmv.co.jp/news/newsDetail...snum=309240053
http://img.hmv.co.jp/news/image/03/0924/news-0053.jpg

Ugh...almost all of them are oldies o_o"