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truehappiness 30th November 2012 09:44 PM

'again' NINKI ranking - #4 - 88.30 - behind 3 bests
 
期待度ポイント アーティスト タイトル 発売日
402.60 EXILE EXILE BEST HITS -LOVE SIDE/SOUL SIDE- 12/05
156.90 YUI GREEN GARDEN POP 12/05
156.00 YUI ORANGE GARDEN POP 12/05
88.30 浜崎あゆみ again 12/08
61.20 BIGBANG SPECIAL FINAL IN DOME MEMORIAL COLLECTION 12/05
38.20 HY Route29 12/05
32.30 fripSide Decade 12/05
22.40 androp one and zero 12/05
20.10 ドレスコーズ the dresscodes 12/05
18.80 春畑道哉 FIND MY PLACE 12/05

NOTE: NINKI IS NOT A SALES ESTIMATE.
Quote:

- In the survey for anticipation (Ninki), Oricon does a research of their subscribers (87,000 people approx), out of which they take a random sample of 400 people. The survey is about "interest or degree of interest" and "purchase or degree of intention of purchase", and the results are put exponentially. The people who take part in the survey are from 10 to 40 years old, and there's the same proportion of men and women. - from Generasia
Not surprising at all. Sucks that all these bests have to come out, but what can you do? At least she's the highest in terms of 'new' music? If she were releasing in another week, she'd probably be fine but the end of the year is always so crazy, agh.

Her past NINKI numbers:
03 93.10 LOVE
02 79.90 A SUMMER BEST
01 171.30 Party Queen
01 172.30 FIVE
01 200.90 Love songs
01 229.70 Rock'n'Roll Circus
01 355.70 NEXT LEVEL
01 254.10 Secret
01 280.90 (miss)understood
01 125.50 MY STORY

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/na/w/2012-11-30/

emi♡ 30th November 2012 09:49 PM

Was surprised she's not behind BIG BANG too tbh...but maybe I'm just out of touch with them in Japan.

Delicious n Bold 30th November 2012 10:14 PM

My story: one of the lowest ratings on the list and sells te most of all the albums on the list (in Japan).

microphone 30th November 2012 10:17 PM

Interesting titles for BEST albums.

Ayu is doing great now considering she is a solo singer who has been active for the past 13 years.

XFER 30th November 2012 10:31 PM

Well, if it wasn't for the BEST albums, she'd be number one. Let's take comfort on that :)

TITANIC 30th November 2012 11:05 PM

i believe
Again will have lower sales compared to LOVE. poor YUI why she release the best together with EXILE

pimenta 1st December 2012 12:00 AM

Well, considering the amount of best albuns on the list, and one belonging to EXILE, the #3 is actually quite good for a mini-album with only 4 new songs + remixes :)

TeamAyu2004 1st December 2012 12:10 AM

I'm hoping her sales stay constant with LOVE

AyuGAME 1st December 2012 12:43 AM

very huge competition...

My Rainbow 1st December 2012 12:52 AM

I don't care about sales, it seems again is going to be even better than LOVE, and I love LOVE :P

andycruize 1st December 2012 01:50 AM

I think it's not huge battle chart since 3 above ayumi is the best album not new album. With the word "BEST" they tried to get number 1. Again is new album. So even ayumi in the 4th place she is still number 1 in new album term, not in "best" album aka compilation from exile or yui past single. So yeah still ayumi is number 1. it looks like exile and yui is afraid battle against the queen of jpop, so they release the "best" album to win the battle hahaha. ****** with their best album, and ayumi you are the best

tokyoxjapanxfan 1st December 2012 01:59 AM

Big Bangs mini album is just a rerelease of songs that have previously been released, yeah? It had like solo songs from each member or something like that...

They're popular, but they're not the type of boy band Japan eats up because they don't look like girls :-p I kid I kid.

Considering the competition, this is great to me.

truehappiness 1st December 2012 02:03 AM

YUI is also going on a hiatus (apparently she may come back later but not as YUI) so that could help her.

ayuinh.k? 1st December 2012 02:34 AM

not only is again going up against 3 albums, it is also going up against matsutoya yumi's 3rd week on the charts (her 40th anniversary best album is selling really well tbh) and mr. children + SNSD's 2nd week on the album charts

truehappiness 1st December 2012 03:06 AM

Mmm, unfortunately, Mr. Children will probably outsell Ayu as well, so she can only really hope to get #5 or #6 at the highest?

Bad Wolf 1st December 2012 03:12 AM

Well since YUI's going on a permanent hiatus or w/e it makes sense her releases would shoot over Ayu's. I have no excuse for EXILE besides people having lame taste in boy bands lol

emi♡ 1st December 2012 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tokyoxjapanxfan (Post 2940573)
Big Bangs mini album is just a rerelease of songs that have previously been released, yeah? It had like solo songs from each member or something like that...

They're popular, but they're not the type of boy band Japan eats up because they don't look like girls :-p I kid I kid.

Considering the competition, this is great to me.

cool cool~


I don't think SNSD's second week will be any problem. Not like the first week was anything spectacular. Mr. Children...um yeah. Yumi, idk.

Delicious n Bold 1st December 2012 04:18 AM

YUI's going on hiatus?
Maybe that will help her music quality increase if/when she comes back.

AyUmIXx 1st December 2012 04:22 AM

it's ok!
But i think that Big bang gonna rank 4 though.

polka-dot-jewel 1st December 2012 04:32 AM

That's really good, considering her album comes out three days after the rest of them!

TeamAyu2004 1st December 2012 04:35 AM

i think they are going to sell this one early just like they did LOVE.

as for YUI. im sad to see her go, I wonder why?

setsuka 1st December 2012 06:29 AM

lmao Big Bang, not gonna happen

anyway

1. EXILE
2.YUI
3.YUI
4.Mr.Children
5. Ayu

KarenPang 1st December 2012 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2940620)

as for YUI. im said to see her go, I wonder why?

Quote:

On November 19th, it was revealed that singer-songwriter YUI will be putting a halt to her music activities at the end of the year.

Through a handwritten announcement on her official website, YUI explained that she has found something new that she wants to try, and has decided to take a break in order to prepare for it. “I know this might cause people to worry, but I am writing this hoping that this letter will convey that I decided on it with a positive mind.”

Regarding her future, she commented, “My style might change, but I want to do lots of fun things through music, so if you’d like, please stay with me.” While on hiatus, YUI plans to report fans of her present situation through her official website.

http://www.tokyohive.com/2012/11/yui...d-of-the-year/

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I already expect again will not be able to get #1 since ayumi's up against EXILE's latest best album & 2 best albums from YUI & it's already known very early in advance the chances of again to get #1 is pretty much zlich

monochrome99 1st December 2012 06:43 AM

The only competition she has for the #4 spot is mr.children's 2nd week sales, which will probably be around 80-100k maybe even more. again might not even get #4

brener 1st December 2012 07:06 AM

it would be #3 if it was released as a single....

KarenPang 1st December 2012 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by brener (Post 2940661)
it would be #3 if it was released as a single....

are you sure ? next week for both singles & albums are super tough if not very competitive

01 552.10 AKB48 - Eien Pressure
02 88.40 EXILE ATSUSHI - MELROSE ~Aisanai Yakusoku~
03 67.10 GLAY - Unmeiron
04 65.30 GLAY - JUSTICE [from] GUILTY
05 45.80 EGOIST - Namae no Nai Kaibutsu
06 35.70 2AM - Dare ni mo Watasenai yo
07 29.20 Suzuki Fuku - Iya Iya YO~!!
08 27.60 √5 - Shinsei Ω Shinwa / Boku Tokidoki, Yusha
09 23.20 Hotei Tomoyasu - Don't Give Up
10 23.00 Nakashima Mika - Hatsukoi

I don't even dare to imagine if again was released as a single to begin with

brener 1st December 2012 07:28 AM

well, the third position is set to sell less than 'again'

Yoake 1st December 2012 10:37 AM

As Ayu'll sing to Heyx3 before the release of again, the sales could be higher than what Ninki foresee.

TeamAyu2004 1st December 2012 03:09 PM

Im hoping the live helped a bit, too bad it wasnt a song off the new mini!
But I kinda hope that some people waited to buy LOVE for this release and then it bumps up that release as well.

title156 1st December 2012 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2940588)
Mmm, unfortunately, Mr. Children will probably outsell Ayu as well, so she can only really hope to get #5 or #6 at the highest?

I forget that Mr.Children released their new album a week before Ayu. It's going to be like when ARASHI's Popcorn outsold Ayu. :thud

Bigtop 2nd December 2012 05:31 AM

Oh dear... Not only EXILE and YUI, but be careful or Mr.Children...yeah - maybe there may be a possibility out of the top five...? (And keep in mind of release date disadvantage~!)

freedreamer 2nd December 2012 08:34 AM

if they sell in shops earlier, does that mean that shipping would be adjusted to suit the shop schedules? the official date IS still 8th i know but..lol...seeing how the CD is selling earlier kinda defeats the purpose hahaha..so the 8th is just a symbol

Ashen Twilight 3rd December 2012 03:14 AM

Matsutoya Yumi's BEST album could also outsell again. It's already sold more than 100k copies this week alone. I'm expecting to maybe drop to 60k next week at the most.

TeamAyu2004 3rd December 2012 03:23 AM

ah, Mr. Children...
At least it better be good, lol.

adantatu2 3rd December 2012 04:02 AM

I'm glad she isn't saving that streak, now we just have to wait for good sales (this mini deserves LOVE, XD) a top 10 is really good, isn't the end of world if she isn't getting a top 5 IMO.

Delicious n Bold 3rd December 2012 04:20 AM

Can you imagine the future?
I'm not saying this will happen but:

"Oh missing a top 10 debut isn't bad. Top 20 is okay for someone who's been in the business for years. Especially the Japanese market"

"As long as she gets top 40, I'm good"

"Please chart for more than 2 weeks, Ayu"


I hope I'm long dead before any of this happens.
Wait, ayu'll be dead before me...

Zeke. 3rd December 2012 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 2941299)
Can you imagine the future?
I'm not saying this will happen but:

"Oh missing a top 10 debut isn't bad. Top 20 is okay for someone who's been in the business for years. Especially the Japanese market"

"As long as she gets top 40, I'm good"

"Please chart for more than 2 weeks, Ayu"


I hope I'm long dead before any of this happens.
Wait, ayu'll be dead before me...

Lol, I think it's funny when Namie is killing it and she's ancient and with crap music. Lol.

TeamAyu2004 3rd December 2012 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 2941299)
Can you imagine the future?
I'm not saying this will happen but:

"Oh missing a top 10 debut isn't bad. Top 20 is okay for someone who's been in the business for years. Especially the Japanese market"

"As long as she gets top 40, I'm good"

"Please chart for more than 2 weeks, Ayu"


I hope I'm long dead before any of this happens.
Wait, ayu'll be dead before me...

OMG, i died right there. I really want little chibi's with signs and everything.

Tony G 3rd December 2012 05:57 AM

I wonder how many of those surveyed actually knew she was releasing something.

truehappiness 3rd December 2012 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 2941303)
Lol, I think it's funny when Namie is killing it and she's ancient and with crap music. Lol.

She's probably the only one from that era doing better than Ayu at the moment, but she wasn't doing too hot for a while in comparison to Ayu until about 2006~2008.

It sorta helps that most of her music is incredibly radio friendly while what Ayu has been doing recently... not so much.

microphone 3rd December 2012 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashen Twilight (Post 2941266)
Matsutoya Yumi's BEST album could also outsell again. It's already sold more than 100k copies this week alone. I'm expecting to maybe drop to 60k next week at the most.

How much did Yumi sell with her new best album in its debut week?

Ashen Twilight 3rd December 2012 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by microphone (Post 2941331)
How much did Yumi sell with her new best album in its debut week?

336,234. I feel like she is going to have crazy longevity.

TeamAyu2004 3rd December 2012 06:33 AM

^ do you mean the album or her?
Because she been around since the 70's... she's already got that longevity, lol.
by the by, which best album are you talking about?

edit: never mind, http://www.generasia.com wasnt updated, but wiki is...
a new best album that was released last month. Ill have to take a look at it (or at least a listen)

freedreamer 3rd December 2012 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2941328)
She's probably the only one from that era doing better than Ayu at the moment, but she wasn't doing too hot for a while in comparison to Ayu until about 2006~2008.

It sorta helps that most of her music is incredibly radio friendly while what Ayu has been doing recently... not so much.

Namie had a new style no doubt. It was fun and experimental esp during PLAY and it really revived her career. but as for radio friendly, I think Ayu has some VERY radio friendly songs! esp more so in the recent years? Letter, call, Why, Melody, meaning of Love...those songs are so pop and J-POP japanese should love..like BLUE BIRD, Days, Sunrise. Just because they arnt main hits and single A-sides..they get overlooked by the general public and i doubt radio stations play these songs so often. and I guess thats the problem without releasing singles.

TeamAyu2004 3rd December 2012 06:39 AM

it makes me wonder if avex even does 'radio singles' with ayumi's music.

Ashen Twilight 3rd December 2012 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2941342)
^ do you mean the album or her?
Because she been around since the 70's... she's already got that longevity, lol.
by the by, which best album are you talking about?

I'm talking about Yuming's BEST album that was released last week. Of course she has longevity, but I feel her new album will also, knocking again to fifth place behind EXILE, YUI's two albums, Mr. Children, and if course, Yuming. It would sad if SNSD somehow beats again also....

C+R+E+AYUMI 3rd December 2012 08:06 AM

considering the first 3 are best albums, I find this result interesting..the release it's even 3 days later

ayu_ready? 3rd December 2012 10:30 AM

I don't know what Acex was thinking releasing her stuff with such a competition. it's like Avex ants to RIP ayumi hamasaki or something

title156 3rd December 2012 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_ready? (Post 2941402)
I don't know what Acex was thinking releasing her stuff with such a competition. it's like Avex ants to RIP ayumi hamasaki or something

It's not avex but Ayu wants to celebrate her 15th anniversary, so every releases until April will be out on 8th.

TeamAyu2004 3rd December 2012 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_ready? (Post 2941402)
I don't know what Acex was thinking releasing her stuff with such a competition. it's like Avex ants to RIP ayumi hamasaki or something

its not about the sales, this has already been stated.

Bigtop 3rd December 2012 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_ready? (Post 2941402)
I don't know what Acex was thinking releasing her stuff with such a competition. it's like Avex ants to RIP ayumi hamasaki or something

Quote:

Originally Posted by title156 (Post 2941481)
It's not avex but Ayu wants to celebrate her 15th anniversary, so every releases until April will be out on 8th.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2941498)
its not about the sales, this has already been stated.

Agreed :yes

We already know Ayu's 34, so why does it make sense for young people to start with Ayu? I don't think so!

(Maybe look at Leo Ieiri, where she's only 17, younger than me?)

My Rainbow 3rd December 2012 05:24 PM

who cares about sales? as long as she keeps releasing good music, it's more than fine.

Andrenekoi 3rd December 2012 05:53 PM

Yuming <3

JackieRos 4th December 2012 12:12 AM

top 5 is good and no reason to mention other artists.

Didz-19 7th December 2012 12:54 PM

yeah. She's #4 today~

TeamAyu2004 7th December 2012 01:47 PM

^ but three days behind (or 2) everyone else...
She'll be lucky to break into the top 5, maybe in even the top 10... I havent been paying attention to the charts this week.

calltome 17th December 2012 05:51 AM

Wow cool info!! and in the mist of 80,000 people from ages 10-40. Ayu still cracked the top 10!! that only shows how popular she really is!! i'm super proud :lech


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