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ayumisrael 6th January 2013 11:19 AM

The Official Oricon Thread -again- ~Second Discussion~
 
Oricon Year of 2012 Overall Sales
Spoiler:

FIVE Mini Album: 1,667
A CLIP BOX 1998-2011 DVD: 9,188
A CLIP BOX 1998-2011 Blu-ray: 5,502
Party Queen Album: 148,290
~POWER of MUSIC~ 2011 LE DVD: 18,803
~POWER of MUSIC~ 2011 LE Blu-ray: 4,925
A SUMMER BEST Album: 139,567
LOVE Mini Album: 88,345
again Mini Album: 34,402

Overall Total Sales: 449,586


Oricon Year of 2013 Overall Sales - Until February 1st - 2013
Spoiler:

LOVE Mini Album: 5,110
again Mini Album: 16,997
A Classical Album: 31,099

Overall Total Sales: 53,206


2012 Yearly Rankings
#38 Party Queen
#42 A SUMMER BEST

Recochoku
Spoiler:

1st Week
chaku uta: #39 Wake me up
chaku uta: #62 Sweet scar
chaku uta FULL: #65 Wake me up
chaku uta FULL: #93 Sweet scar

2nd Week
chaku uta: #90 Wake me up
chaku uta FULL: #140 Song 4 u


http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2867/cddvdaj.jpg

1st Week
Spoiler:

1st Day
-

2nd Day
-

3rd Day
Position: #4
Sales: 9,087

4th Day
Position: #2
Sales: 12,764
Total Sales: 21,851

5th Day
Position: #6
Sales: x
Total Sales: 21,851 + x

6th Day
Position: #10
Sales: x
Total Sales: 21,851 + x + x

1st Week
Position: #7
Official Total Sales: 34,402


2nd Week
Spoiler:

1st Day
Position: #6

2nd Day
Position: #19

3rd Day
Position: #16

4th Day
Position: #15

5th Day
Position: #15

6th Day
Position: #21

7th Day
Position: #26

2nd Week
Position: #17
Official Sales: 10,012
Official Total Sales: 44,414


3rd Week
Spoiler:

1st Day
Position: #15

2nd Day
Position: #29

3rd Day
Position: #36

4th Day
Position: #31

5th Day
Position: #38

6th Day
Position: #44

7th Day
Out of the top 50

3rd Week
Position: #41
Official Sales: 3,504
Official Total Sales: 47,918


4th Week
Spoiler:
Out of the top 50

4th Week
Position: #74
Official Sales: 2,162
Official Total Sales: 50,080


5th Week
Spoiler:
Out of the top 50

5th Week
Position: #105
Official Sales: 1,373
Official Total Sales: 51,453


6th Week
Spoiler:
Out of the top 50

6th Week
Position: #131
Official Sales: 774
Official Total Sales: 52,227


7th Week
Spoiler:
Out of the top 50

7th Week
Position: #167
Official Sales: 567
Official Total Sales: 52,794


8th Week
Spoiler:
Out of the top 50

8th Week
Position: #258
Official Sales: 405
Official Total Sales: 53,199


9th Week
Spoiler:
Out of the top 50

9th Week
Position: #289
Official Sales: 347
Official Total Sales: 53,546


10th Week

Out of the top 50

10th Week
Position: #251
Official Sales: 367
Official Total Sales: 53,913

Jawdarna 6th January 2013 11:58 AM

Hopefully LOVE again will perform better sales wise.

A lot better. xD

ayumisrael 6th January 2013 12:06 PM

Well again (50,000+) and LOVE (90,000+) were singles, LOVE again is an album so hopefully it will sell 100,000 :)

kinix 6th January 2013 12:38 PM

The news of LOVE again totally killed these 2 mini's =.=...

ayumisrael 6th January 2013 01:15 PM

Why? They are still charting as they normally would.

inspire_rmx 6th January 2013 04:25 PM

I'm keeping my finger crossed that LOVE again would pass the 150,000 sales mark..

TeamAyu2004 6th January 2013 05:46 PM

at least it hit the 50K like I wanted it too...

Kaiouforever 6th January 2013 05:59 PM

again was AMAZING. I love each song and play the single/mini album on repeat. I think if the album is anything like it, then I will be very happy.

Delicious n Bold 6th January 2013 06:30 PM

So it really did hit 50k
It deserves more though

TeamAyu2004 6th January 2013 06:37 PM

with the way the japanese fans are treating the new release (love again) I think that album will do a lot better...
maybe this one will have a longer shelf life though.

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 6th January 2013 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaiouforever (Post 2960177)
again was AMAZING. I love each song and play the single/mini album on repeat. I think if the album is anything like it, then I will be very happy.

This.
The SINGLE was really good, reminds me of the higher quality of releases Ayu had between 2007-2009.

RadnasticReggie 6th January 2013 09:18 PM

It's crazy to think that she came out with The Other Side as 'Limited Edition' with 50,000 Presses. Here we have her full release selling around that.

chu-lips 7th January 2013 02:33 AM

omg
the chaku uta charts for wake me up & sweet scar is (⊙ ,⊙)
why they're so low....

SolarAngel 7th January 2013 05:58 AM

It actually sold much better than I thought! Honestly I was expecting 1k or even less. And lol on the single! I wonder who still acknowledges Love and again as minis.

njanjayrp 7th January 2013 03:53 PM

Hopefully LOVE again will fair better than Party Queen as there were actual singles/songs promoting it.

Bad Wolf 7th January 2013 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2960062)
Why? They are still charting as they normally would.

Yeah, that's what I think. I still think it's interesting that LOVE sold so much -- is that because it was her first non-compilation release since Party Queen?

ayu-fan 7th January 2013 04:34 PM

So.. again is just about 50K in sales for now? That's ... pretty low, even LOVE sold 88K @__@

Bad Wolf 7th January 2013 04:36 PM

^ Like I said, I think that's just because it was her first studio release since Party Queen. And when the news broke that LOVE again is coming out, I can see why people held off on buying it. I mean, there's really no point unless you're that interested in the mixes and instrumentals.

ayumisrael 7th January 2013 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu-fan (Post 2960482)
So.. again is just about 50K in sales for now? That's ... pretty low, even LOVE sold 88K @__@

LOVE sold 92,000 already.

Delicious n Bold 7th January 2013 06:42 PM

Some of the mixes on this CD ARE pretty good...

ayumisrael 7th January 2013 06:43 PM

Yeah she even used the Wake me up remix for CDL and it was awesome.

brener 8th January 2013 11:26 AM

thank god it sold 50k at least..

freedreamer 9th January 2013 12:03 PM

im surprised this is still selling HAHAH

ayumisrael 9th January 2013 01:31 PM

5th Week
Position: #105
Official Sales: 1,373
Official Total Sales: 51,453

Delicious n Bold 9th January 2013 02:52 PM

51k + 92k = 143k

Get them sales ayuma!

njanjayrp 9th January 2013 02:54 PM

I am really glad LOVE will prolly manage to outsell L in a few weeks!

TeamAyu2004 9th January 2013 05:07 PM

decent sales...
Love did better, which is nice... I think if this was a single (both) they wouldnt have stayed in the charts for as long.

brener 12th January 2013 08:19 AM

i knew this day would come...
the day we'd be praying for numbers over 50k
i wonder when we'll be praying for 10k!

calltome 12th January 2013 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brener (Post 2962477)
i knew this day would come...
the day we'd be praying for numbers over 50k
i wonder when we'll be praying for 10k!

Please Don't say it, that day will be the end of the world!! :thud

njanjayrp 13th January 2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2961225)
decent sales...
Love did better, which is nice... I think if this was a single (both) they wouldnt have stayed in the charts for as long.

They are selling exactly the way the singles would sell...

TeamAyu2004 13th January 2013 02:17 PM

personally I don't think so.
I think they would have sold less if they were officially singles.

adantatu2 14th January 2013 04:59 AM

I think LOVE sold like an album and again like a single

TITANIC 16th January 2013 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2962908)
personally I don't think so.
I think they would have sold less if they were officially singles.

i gotta feeling it would sell more because cheaper price compared to minis

ayumisrael 16th January 2013 01:59 PM

6th Week
Position: #131
Official Sales: 774
Official Total Sales: 52,227

TeamAyu2004 16th January 2013 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TITANIC (Post 2964171)
i gotta feeling it would sell more because cheaper price compared to minis

not really, if you are an ayumi fan you would by it regardless of price.
which at this point in her career she is really just catering her music to them. Unless you are a fan that never buys and just downloads.
the minis where not that much more then a single would be... I dont understand how people miss this.
also, a lot of the fans that dont buy singles bought the minis because of the format, when they found out this is basically a single, they didnt buy, which hurt this one...

KarenPang 16th January 2013 02:44 PM

looks like again might not get certified by RIAJ since they've already released their certifications for the month of Dec 2012

http://www.riaj.or.jp/data/others/gold/201212.html

again is not included in the list =(

Delicious n Bold 16th January 2013 02:46 PM

Sayonara, aisarete aishite kureta CD

TeamAyu2004 16th January 2013 02:53 PM

thats sad... I was hoping it would be!
again was MUCH better then LOVE (not knocking love). Maybe in another month, although I doubt it...
I would if some people are waiting to buy it with love again if they want it?

mizuki-7 16th January 2013 03:08 PM

If it would be certified Avex would lose a lot of money ^^

Delicious n Bold 16th January 2013 06:27 PM

^ really? Why?

KarenPang 16th January 2013 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mizuki-7 (Post 2964239)
If it would be certified Avex would lose a lot of money ^^

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 2964315)
^ really? Why?

If it's so , it means that avex overshot in printing many copies of again to get sold in physical CD stores in Japan

A Gold certification given by RIAJ mean that 100,000 copies are shipped/printed to stores to get the stock sold but from the actual amount of copies that already been sold & that Oricon recorded on their website (52,227 & counting) , 47,773 copies have not been sold so far at this point in time

TeamAyu2004 16th January 2013 06:35 PM

they wouldnt lose that money, they already sold it to the stores.
the stores lose out on the money if they never sell.

avex has already made their money off of it.

harufi 16th January 2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2964322)
they wouldnt lose that money, they already sold it to the stores.
the stores lose out on the money if they never sell.

avex has already made their money off of it.

It could work that way, or maybe avex print x amount and then send, say, half of it to stores, then send the remaining copies out as stores request a restock (I have no idea how it works in Japan, just an idea)

marekcarey 16th January 2013 08:38 PM

Cos they would have made 50k copies which have not been sold. :P

TeamAyu2004 16th January 2013 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harufi (Post 2964339)
It could work that way, or maybe avex print x amount and then send, say, half of it to stores, then send the remaining copies out as stores request a restock (I have no idea how it works in Japan, just an idea)

they could do it that way as well, but when ever you talk about RIAJ, that is talking about shipped copies, which means they have all ready been paid for.
But each country does their accounting differently, so it could be different in japan, I dont know... never studied it before.

Delicious n Bold 21st January 2013 07:56 PM

My friend is upset about the fact that the cd marked career lows for Ayuma

TeamAyu2004 21st January 2013 08:09 PM

it is kinda sad...
I cant wait to see how LOVE again does.

microphone 22nd January 2013 05:15 AM

Hopefully these drops in sales won't discourage her from making new music.

brener 22nd January 2013 05:26 PM

so now what, ayu will release these "mini-albums" forever? o-o'

TeamAyu2004 23rd January 2013 02:56 AM

lord I hope not... 2 mini albums and then an album with just a few new songs...
dont. do. this. to. ME!!!!

brener 23rd January 2013 03:37 AM

well, the new "mini albums" are replacing the "singles" actually... cuz of that strike..

TeamAyu2004 23rd January 2013 03:46 AM

thats what im saying...
i wouldnt want that.

brener 23rd January 2013 03:49 AM

sooner or later we'll know about that...

freedreamer 23rd January 2013 05:36 AM

guess we're gonna have more and more mini albums hereafter hahaha

adantatu2 23rd January 2013 05:42 AM

^
:yes

Singles, mini-albums, if she keep releasing good music, i don't care

ayumisrael 23rd January 2013 01:49 PM

7th Week
Position: #167
Official Sales: 567
Official Total Sales: 52,794

TeamAyu2004 23rd January 2013 01:54 PM

well, at least it topped the 50k...
I wonder why this didnt do so well... I guess it had to do with people finding out about the album?
But that seems weird in a single selling heavy country, lol.

Delicious n Bold 23rd January 2013 02:28 PM

Maybe some people actually believed avex when they said it was a mini album...
Fat chance.

It definietly was the album announcement.
And I honestly didn't expect it to pass 50k before. But I'm glad it did.

TeamAyu2004 23rd January 2013 02:35 PM

i know I did... they never let me down before. why 15 years into her career.
I kinda thought about it when the 2nd mini was released and then they announced a full album... I was so pissed, but I decided to wait for the meltdown till I actually knew. lol.

brener 23rd January 2013 05:02 PM

hoping for 10 weeks on charts.

andycruize 25th January 2013 04:01 AM

awesome
 
Ok first of all I've got my copy (again cd+DVD) yesterday 24th January and I know it was super late, second I keep my promise to not listen the songs except cm before I get this album and I did it, third when I listening this album for the 1st time all I can say that AWESOME!!! More better than LOVE. The remixes really great maybe I can say the greatest remixed song from ayumi. Just still confuse why this album only sold less than LOVE. You will not regret to buy this mini album. I know people hate how avex treat this album as mini not single, and maro things, but hey....if u want to have high quality music, this album is the best option to buy. Go go go ayumi. LOVE again will be her masterpiece. I believe that and people will buy!!!
:love:love

Delicious n Bold 26th January 2013 06:22 PM

tbh i think that the CD isnt necessary unless youre a hardcore collector (like me).
The album looks nice on a shelf though.
But with love again containing all the necessary songs from the album and more (pv making of clips)...

Gkone01 30th January 2013 10:18 AM

8th Week
Position: #258
Official Sales: 405
Official Total Sales: 53,199

AyuGAME 30th January 2013 11:14 AM

Sales AGAIN!

adantatu2 31st January 2013 12:27 AM

The sales are OK, and 8 weeks are really good

brener 31st January 2013 06:41 AM

55k would be fine!

Deep snow 31st January 2013 08:38 AM

I must say again is a really good release. The remixes are really awesome. I don't remember loving a recent ayu remix before the Remo-con rmx of Wake me up. Of course the fact that it was not released on a Wednesday like a normal release plays a big role in the damaged sales. I hope the same thing won't happen to LOVE again and that she would actually freaking perform some of the songs on TV for crying out loud.

ayumisrael 6th February 2013 01:24 PM

9th Week
Position: #289
Official Sales: 347
Official Total Sales: 53,546

TeamAyu2004 6th February 2013 01:35 PM

again, you were so good it seemed to hurt your chart position... lol
looks like you were just too good for it.

Delicious n Bold 6th February 2013 02:25 PM

IT LIVES
Don't know if happy

brener 7th February 2013 07:21 AM

yay!!

ayumisrael 13th February 2013 01:08 PM

10th Week
Position: #251
Official Sales: 367
Official Total Sales: 53,913

brener 13th February 2013 08:40 PM

these numbers arent so bad at all =)


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