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NintendoHTF1242 30th May 2013 08:25 PM

Do you guys think Ayu will ever release another physical single?
 
The last physical single to come out was L back in 2010. Woooooo!

Or do you guys think avex is too ~scared~ of Ayu losing her record so they're just gonna stick to the whole ~mini-album~ scheme? Because life is boring without Ayu announcing singles.

fairygirl 30th May 2013 08:28 PM

Good question ...
maybe she always wanted to have 50 singles and that's it...

hm or maybe avex really think so with that mini album/ album thing it's better
to hold the sales

mizuki-7 30th May 2013 09:00 PM

I think it will be difficult to continue without releases single ... If only if they care about sales and Avex is a company so they care maybe not Ayu but Avex yes ! so she should release single even if it's one per year !

She has allready the record she can't loose it so I don't believe this story they can choose a good date like before it's not like it wasn't common the Johnny's always do that even b'z etc...

TeamAyu2004 30th May 2013 09:51 PM

i hope so.
I wish she would so and it didnt get a umber one so the fans could stop obsessing about the whole streak thing.

adantatu2 30th May 2013 11:24 PM

I don't care the peaks, i just want new music like before, with 2 or 3 singles per year and then an album.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 30th May 2013 11:29 PM

She will have to eventually if she wants to keep on releasing music and doing well. Singles promote your ass, and they are a good way to promote your ass, that's why they're so popular in Japan at least and sell as much or more than physical albums!

And if loses her streak would actually help I think, she would release singles without having to worry about that.

emi♡ 30th May 2013 11:35 PM

oh, was it really back in 2010?

Meh. I used to love single for the material and the pictures and the packaging...now I think, I'm just fine with an album here and there.

Will she ever release one again...idk probably. Even if it's when she's 50 and they try to turn her into like a Seiko or something.

owlflight 30th May 2013 11:43 PM

I certainly hope so! I didn't start buying new releases until after L in 2010. I'm ready for the anticipation of a possible single.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 31st May 2013 04:31 AM

I sure hope so. A summer single would be nice! But I'm not gonna hold my breath. :(

ayu-michan 31st May 2013 04:34 AM

I would love it if she releases new single, but im not going to buy them XD i have this taste in liking to buy albums more than singles... it's a waste of money to buy single when the songs came in the album anw. but yes, it would be really nice to see some promo and singles around.

pimenta 31st May 2013 04:40 AM

I don't know, I guess she really thought about stopping at the 50th single... I just don't see how she's going to keep up with her carreer without releasing any more singles, she's been forcing too much ways to release new songs without new singles.

I said 'she' because I really don't think this is all Avex's fault... I hope Ayu and Avex get over this no-singles fase soon...

Pieces_of_SEVEN 31st May 2013 04:44 AM

I just hate avex.

xLuna&1LOVE 31st May 2013 02:48 PM

I believe she will keep going on release like this: "mini-albums", digital downloads and albums. So, I am not expecting any single-releases in future.

KarenPang 31st May 2013 02:56 PM

Doubt so , if not she would have released another single right after L isn't it ?

Already 3 years has already passed since L was released & to me it doesn't matter will she release another physical CD single or not as I don't buy her singles :shrug

mizuki-7 31st May 2013 03:12 PM

^
XD

douggn 31st May 2013 03:27 PM

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4...ujv1qdv03g.png

Andrenekoi 31st May 2013 05:01 PM

Promotional-wise there isn't much difference between releasing a physical single and a digital one...

marty 31st May 2013 05:10 PM

God I would like they do, I think singles help in a lot of ways! But I don't really know if they will release a new one, I prefer to not think of it. I never understood avex decisions, most just don't make sense to me. But I'm just a nobody, and they're supposed to be wise managers, right?XD I'm just hoping.

orbitalaspect 31st May 2013 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by fairygirl (Post 3003991)
Good question ...
maybe she always wanted to have 50 singles and that's it...

hm or maybe avex really think so with that mini album/ album thing it's better
to hold the sales

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Originally Posted by xLuna&1LOVE (Post 3004217)
I believe she will keep going on release like this: "mini-albums", digital downloads and albums. So, I am not expecting any single-releases in future.

I wouldn't think so. Those mini-albums cost a lot more than a single, and after the crap of having nothing unique to the mini-albums except for a few remixes, I'm sure fans won't fall for buying them again on the expectation that everything will be on the album two months later.

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Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 3004018)
She will have to eventually if she wants to keep on releasing music and doing well. Singles promote your ass, and they are a good way to promote your ass, that's why they're so popular in Japan at least and sell as much or more than physical albums!

And if loses her streak would actually help I think, she would release singles without having to worry about that.

I think this is where her sales really fell hard and we started seeing things like (miss)understood selling 900,000 copies then Secret only selling 600,000 then GUILTY barely cracking 580,000 then NEXT LEVEL topping out at 350,000, RnRC coming in at 300,000, Ls coming in at 270,000. It sucks, but what really started hurting her sales was only having one or two singles every year. If you look at the drops, her biggest percentage drops started around the time she reduced the number of singles she was releasing every year. And now... from Ls with 3 singles and 270,000 in sales to PQ with no singles and 145,000 in sales, to La with no singles and only ~90,000 in sales. Those are HUGE drops that correlate with little promotion. So, I hope she gets back on track and really enjoys releasing new music again, because she seems to be falling backwards and getting bored with being a musician.

YUKARI 31st May 2013 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by orbitalaspect (Post 3004277)
I think this is where her sales really fell hard and we started seeing things like (miss)understood selling 900,000 copies then Secret only selling 600,000 then GUILTY barely cracking 580,000 then NEXT LEVEL topping out at 350,000, RnRC coming in at 300,000, Ls coming in at 270,000. It sucks, but what really started hurting her sales was only having one or two singles every year. If you look at the drops, her biggest percentage drops started around the time she reduced the number of singles she was releasing every year. And now... from Ls with 3 singles and 270,000 in sales to PQ with no singles and 145,000 in sales, to La with no singles and only ~90,000 in sales. Those are HUGE drops that correlate with little promotion. So, I hope she gets back on track and really enjoys releasing new music again, because she seems to be falling backwards and getting bored with being a musician.

mte!

she NEEDS to release singles if she wants to continue her career. she can't always go on with mini-albums, it's just ridiculous!! with all that 5-releases thing she showed us that she can release 1 mini-album, 2 mini-album and then combine them into usual album. I think all her fans learnt this lesson well so we can expect even bigger drop in sales if she dares to release one more mini-album.

NintendoHTF1242 31st May 2013 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by orbitalaspect (Post 3004277)
So, I hope she gets back on track and really enjoys releasing new music again, because she seems to be falling backwards and getting bored with being a musician.

I know Ayu has constantly expressed that without music, she wouldn't be alive...but I agree with you on the thought of her being bored of making music now. She's been doing this for 15 years straight.

marty 31st May 2013 05:52 PM

Singles, minialbums, albums: they're all different ways to sell music, but without promotions, they're all pretty useless for me.
Don't know what they'll decide to do, but I'm just praying they make an effort to promote it, 'cause people will have to know about something before deciding it's worth buying or not.

& + H 31st May 2013 06:02 PM

She lost her streak so

YUKARI 31st May 2013 06:06 PM

ayu shouldn't care about her streak of consecutive number one singles as it will be broken by akb in 1.5 year (they have 18 now and they need 7 more and as they release 5 singles per year, I guess it will take about 1.5 year)

happiholic★ 31st May 2013 06:10 PM

Her album streak is gone, its time for her single streak, too. Avex needs to get over it. Ayu isn't at her peak anymore. No more "mini-albums" and "Summer Bests". You can't dodge the bullet forever, Avex. Plus, you're run out of tricks. There is nothing left you can do.

Bigtop 31st May 2013 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by YUKARI (Post 3004302)
ayu shouldn't care about her streak of consecutive number one singles as it will be broken by akb in 1.5 year (they have 18 now and they need 7 more and as they release 5 singles per year, I guess it will take about 1.5 year)

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Originally Posted by happiholic★ (Post 3004305)
Her album streak is gone, its time for her single streak, too. Avex needs to get over it. Ayu isn't at her peak anymore. No more "mini-albums" and "Summer Bests". You can't dodge the bullet forever, Avex. Plus, you're run out of tricks. There is nothing left you can do.

Agreed :(

And AKB48 is really more concerning to Ayu fans more and more... I just don't know when AKB will lose steam, but it might not be before the consecutive streak could be broken by the end of 2014, unless Ayu releases another physical single within the next year or so... :(

(And I did not even know about the single streak count until just today)

YUKARI 31st May 2013 06:58 PM

the only way to compete is to start releasing again. why can't avex do they best and find the most secure dates for her? they always did it, why not do it again?

but yeah, everything must be very complicated nowadays. it's like she's reached her expiry date.... :( and nobody's willing to work with her again.

happiholic★ 31st May 2013 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by YUKARI (Post 3004323)
the only way to compete is to start releasing again. why can't avex do they best and find the most secure dates for her? they always did it, why not do it again?

but yeah, everything must be very complicated nowadays. it's like she's reached her expiry date.... :( and nobody's willing to work with her again.

I've always wondered if it was because Avex was worried that fans only bought the singles to help her streak. Her singles were never really worth buying, as all the content almost always ended up on an album. Plus, by not releasing they can still have the opportunity to continue the streak, and by holding out if and when they do release a single it will sell because fans would be "starved". I don't know if that's the case, just a thought. Even if they tried for "safe" dates, competition could come along unexpectedly. They can't always push releases back, or plan for unexpected hits.

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Originally Posted by alternafan000 (Post 3004326)
why are y'all blaming avex for this rofl

ayu called L her "last fortress" for a reason and i dobt she's sitting on a bunch of 51st 52nd 53rd etc singles and avex is like "NO U OLD SAGGY **** WE WILL NOT RELEASE THESE FOR U"

its obv ayu's decision all the way just like premuch every other weird/illogical thng in her career. wutever? i need to pie -.-!

Well, not all decisions are up to Ayu. She's also said that herself. Unless she feels strongly about releasing a single, I doubt she would go against Avex. Also, it could be Ayu who doesn't want to release the single, I won't rule that out. I guess fans just think that Ayu is "so over" the streak thing, and that its Avex who would be the most concerned with preserving it, for whatever reason.

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 1st June 2013 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by douggn (Post 3004240)

:love

marty 1st June 2013 04:36 PM

Sorry, but it wasn't avex decisions, but Ayu resolution not to make "singles format" again, why releasing two minialbums which are so clearly in a single format? Why don't just release an album like she did for Party Queen, and maybe a couple of digital songs? I think this is SO avex, that mess doesn't sound at all like ayu to me.

SKYia 1st June 2013 06:14 PM

she's so fixated about the no# streak I highly doubt it

douggn 4th June 2013 05:40 PM

I just see this as ayu taking a little break while still working. Shes still doing what she love but not being chained to public appearences and avex so much. Ayus no longer a hot topic but thats because something new will always take the publics eye, but she still has her stand in the music world

No_Doubt 9th June 2013 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SKYia (Post 3004548)
she's so fixated about the no# streak I highly doubt it

Yeah, exactly. It's pretty obvious LOVE and again were released as "mini albums" just so that they wouldn't ruin her streak.

jean-baptiste 9th June 2013 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by No_Doubt (Post 3006385)
Yeah, exactly. It's pretty obvious LOVE and again were released as "mini albums" just so that they wouldn't ruin her streak.

That would mean ayu has such a lack of confidence in herself that she thinks she won't sell well and such pride that she refuses to lose her streak. I refuse to believe that, I really do. If that is ever proven as fact, I will lose a lot of respect for her.

Andrenekoi 9th June 2013 06:02 AM

^Well, nowadays believing the single won't sell good isn't lack of self confidence, is being unbiased :P

jean-baptiste 9th June 2013 06:20 AM

^Whats "unsiaded?" Sorry for my bad vocab xD

Andrenekoi 9th June 2013 06:28 AM

^ Ooops! That was a typo, sorry for that xD

marty 9th June 2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jean-baptiste (Post 3006408)
That would mean ayu has such a lack of confidence in herself that she thinks she won't sell well and such pride that she refuses to lose her streak. I refuse to believe that, I really do. If that is ever proven as fact, I will lose a lot of respect for her.

And tha's EXACTLY why I CAN'T believe it's her fixation, but I'm strongly lend to believe it's Avex's. Her last marketing decisions wouldn't make sense, for the person Ayu is, so for me it's pretty obvious her label took them.
I mean, on one side we have Ayu, who says sales don't matter for her anymore and hint that she doesn't really want to release singles anymore, and on the other side we have three releases which are made for MONEY (let's be realistic) and two of which have clearly the single format.
I think it's understandable why people tend to bash Avex and believe it's not really Ayu decision.

yoshino 9th June 2013 11:05 AM

She needs to release it!! I want to see her do more promotions too.

jean-baptiste 9th June 2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by marty (Post 3006457)
And tha's EXACTLY why I CAN'T believe it's her fixation, but I'm strongly lend to believe it's Avex's. Her last marketing decisions wouldn't make sense, for the person Ayu is, so for me it's pretty obvious her label took them.
I mean, on one side we have Ayu, who says sales don't matter for her anymore and hint that she doesn't really want to release singles anymore, and on the other side we have three releases which are made for MONEY (let's be realistic) and two of which have clearly the single format.
I think it's understandable why people tend to bash Avex and believe it's not really Ayu decision.

I agree with you. It's more possible it's avex's decision. But one comment here said "SHE is so fixated on her streak." It makes her sound pathetic.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 15th June 2013 06:17 AM

What if she announced a new summer single tomorrow. And it blew everyone's minds. And it sold 250k. I would die of happiness.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 15th June 2013 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 3008033)
What if she announced a new summer single tomorrow. And it blew everyone's minds. And it sold 250k. I would die of happiness.

This please

inspire_rmx 15th June 2013 08:54 AM

:yes
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 3008033)
What if she announced a new summer single tomorrow. And it blew everyone's minds. And it sold 250k. I would die of happiness.


Surreal17 15th June 2013 10:20 AM

I need a fierce rock album and a **** song like You & me.

emi♡ 15th June 2013 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 3008033)
What if she announced a new summer single tomorrow. And it blew everyone's minds. And it sold 250k. I would die of happiness.

****, if it sold half that I'd die of happiness for her.


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