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Andrenekoi 7th July 2014 01:22 AM

The Party Queen era concepts analysis thread!
 
Overall guide-lines:

-The intention of this thread is discussing the concepts of Ayu's several releases, analysing the lyrics, the music, the visual, the videos and the tour concept.

-Everyone's insights about the concept of an era is welcome!

-Please, let's avoid the "this era rocked"/"this era sucked" stuff.

-And remember, when it's about the interpretation of a creative work, there's no right and wrong, just different impressions. Offenses towards another member discussing the subject will be reported.

Other Threads:
GUILTY
NEXT LEVEL
Rock’n’Roll Circus
Love Songs
FIVE
LOVE again
Colours
A one
M(A)DE IN JAPAN

Party Queen (you can download it here)

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1. Party queen
2. NaNaNa
3. Shake It♥
4. taskebab
5. call
6. Letter
7. reminds me
8. Return Road
9. Tell me why
10. a cup of tea
11. the next LOVE
12. Eyes, Smoke, Magic
13. Serenade in A minor
14. how beautiful you are


Party Queen was Ayu's 13th studio album, released in 2012 after another turbulent year on Ayu's life, having she gone through a divorce with Manuel Schwarz after less than a year of marriage and the whole country still feeling the recent tsunami + nuclear disaster. Party Queen was announced as Ayu's first concept album, and it's released faced a lot of controverse due to the sexed-up cover of one of its versions. Party Queen's biggest hit was the ending track, "how beautiful you are", after a tie-in with the succesful drama "Saigokara Nibanme no Koi".


LYRICS (from here)

Party queen
Spoiler:

Party queen! Party queen!
Party queen! Party queen!
Party queen! Party queen!

Saturday night☆
Just a little earlier than usual, “kanpai”
The tension quickly escalates

Just like magic, rosy colors before my eyes
I want to be fascinated with these gold bubbles here

It’s ok to let it get to your head
Let go and let it get to your head
This is the centre of the world, and I’m the princess

The world is sparkling with light, let only convenient things
And fun things come into my sight

I am the party queen! I am the party queen!

We need a drink☆
Friends gather and “kanpai”
And we continue with nothing but that till morning

All you people here
And all you people over there
It’s as if everyone’s already friends and family

The world is spinning round and round, who are you again?
I don’t even know who I am anymore

It doesn’t matter if the world is up or down, left or right
As long as we wish for it, we can go anywhere

I am the party queen! I am the party queen!
I am the party queen! I am the party queen!

Tomorrow’s hangover and retrospection, just forget them now
“If that’s too difficult for you, I won’t drink with you again”

The world is sparkling with light, let only convenient things
And fun things come into my sight

The world is spinning round and round, and we keep on repeating
No matter how many painful experiences come, we will never be defeated

I am the party queen! I am the party queen!
I am the party queen! I am the party queen!


NaNaNa
Spoiler:
tick tick tick tick tock tick
tick tick tick tick tock tick
tick tock tock don’t stop
Oh let’s go (coz) Life is short

Don’t just think about things all the time
Life is really short, so
kiss me kiss me

Walking down the street
Come on, move your feet
Feelings going deep
Every kiss is sweet (mwah)
All the gorgeous boiz
Come and make some noise
Listen to my voice
You don’t have no choice

We can run
Crazy girl! na-na-na-na-na
Fun fun No.1
Uh- We’re done…
Right or Wrong?
The night is long
We be strong
Go, go, go – c’mon!!

I’m glad that you are here as yourself
Because that is something only you can do
Don’t be bogged down by today’s defeats
Tomorrow will be a brand new day

Enjoying your life in this moment to the fullest
Is there anything more important than that?
tell me tell me

Go on a date
Stay up late
No heartbreak
So we shake shake shake

Let’s stay out
Crazy and proud
Love the sound
Play the music loud!!!

Club goes boom
Sing it girl na-na-na-na-na
Everybody swoon
Hot in the room

You’re the Party Queen
And you’re the Dancing Queen
I’m a Lonely Queen
Life is just a dream!

I’m glad that you are here as yourself
Because that is something only you can do
Don’t let yesterday’s regrets take precedence
Pride after victory will be your regret after defeat

tick tick tick tick tock tick
tick tick tick tick tock tick
tick tock tock
5,4,3,2,1


Shake It♥
Spoiler:
O-Lailaila O-Lailaila
O-Lailaila O-Lai
(I ♥ girls)

Pure, righteous, beautiful
Crafty, whimsical, new, we like such things
Easy to understand, difficult to understand
I just love that about us

(More) Humbly (More) Strikingly
(More) Be violently disheveled Hey, girls!
(Not enough) Humbly (Not enough) Strikingly
(Not enough) Be violently disheveled Hey, girls!!!

There’s magic that you can only use if you’re a girl
I’ll count, so come with me to heaven, yes 1.2.3.4

shake it (2 more)
shake it shake it lala (c’mon babe)
shake it (2 more)
shake it shake it lala

O-Lailaila O-Lailaila
O-Lailaila O-Lai
(I ♥ girls)

Innocently making easy things look tough
I admire such a charming talent, but
Easily meeting unexpected difficulties
That kind of charm is what I really love

(More) Let’s hear it (More) Let’s go
(More) We can be free Hey, girls?
(Not enough) Let’s hear it (Not enough) Let’s go
(Not enough) We can be free Hey, girls???

There’s secrets that you can only understand if you’re a girl
I’ll count, so come with me to heaven, yes 1.2.3.4

shake it (2 more)
shake it shake it lala (one more time)
shake it (2 more)
shake it shake it lala

That girl seems to get more love than me
I know it, even if you don’t say it out loud

There’s magic that you can only use if you’re a girl
I’ll count, so come with me to heaven, yes 1.2.3.4

There’s secrets that you can only understand if you’re a girl
I’ll count, so come with me to heaven, yes 1.2.3.4

shake it (2 more)
shake it shake it lala (c’mon babe)
shake it (2 more)
shake it shake it lala
shake it (2 more)

shake it shake it lala (one more time)
shake it (2 more)
shake it shake it lala

O-Lailaila O-Lailaila
O-Lailaila O-Lai
(I ♥ girls)


call
Spoiler:
You probably won’t remember this
The sunrise which we saw that day
Was an end which seemed like a beginning
And so I couldn’t say anything

I just smiled, with all and everything I had

I heard a voice
Saying “Don’t leave me alone”
Saying “I’m fine as long as you’re by my side”
At that time, I was always searching
Until I felt that I have found something

Hey, but just what should I call this?

“Everything was an illusion”
“You were just dreaming”
Someone, please look me straight in the eye
And somehow say these things to me

Pretending that I’ve forgetten it all
I can do that really well now, but

You were warm as you wiped away my tears
You held me tight with those hands
For the first time in my life, I felt it
Sentimental, I felt like crying again

Hey, but just what should I call this?

I heard a voice
Saying “Don’t leave me alone”
Saying “I’m fine as long as you’re by my side”
At that time, I was always searching
Until I felt that I have found something

You were warm as you wiped away my tears
You held me tight with those hands
For the first time in my life, I felt it
Sentimental, I felt like crying again

Hey, just what

Hey, just what should I call this?


Letter
Spoiler:
How are you? Is life
Still difficult for you now?

People you can truly talk to
Do you have such friends now?

Today, I passed by that place
And there, I thought I heard the voices
Of us that night

So straight, so straight, always misunderstood
Nobody really understands you
But you try, you try
It’s ok even if you’re uncool
I like you just that way

Just maybe, happiness
Exists only in tiny amounts

That is really bitter and painful
We may often feel that way

But just for that tiny bit
Of warm happiness
With our noses dripping with snot
We have to grovel on the ground

So lonely, so lonely, drinking the night away
Reflecting, but right after that
You have fun, have fun
And drink a little too much
I like you just that way

So straight, so straight, always misunderstood
Nobody really understands you
But you try, you try
It’s ok even if you’re uncool

So lonely, so lonely, drinking the night away
Reflecting, but right after that
You have fun, have fun
And drink a little too much
I like you just that way

I like you just that way



Reminds me
Spoiler:
When, with this tired body
I reach my darkened room
And realize that I need to turn on the lights
I absolutely hate that moment

Because always, without fail
My returning memories flip to that page
From the supposedly buried distant past
Of events I wish to erase

Everyone has one or two things
Which they wish they could forget
But what they cannot forget
Is the pain of knowing that they cannot afford to forget

In the end, the road hasn’t ended
But still continues on

lalala…..

Someday, I’ll be able to accept it all
That day will surely come, right?
When that happens, it’ll be great
If I can forgive your everything

Everyone has one or two things
Which they wish they could forget
But what they cannot forget
Is the pain of knowing that they cannot afford to forget

In the end, the road hasn’t ended
But still continues on

When, with this tired body
I reach my darkened room
And realize that I need to turn on the lights
I absolutely hate that moment


Return Road
Spoiler:
The you reflected in my eyes and
The me reflected in your eyes

Caught each other’s gaze, and forgot to breathe
That moment when we first met
Alone now, I silently close my eyes
And gently cast my thoughts back

It’s just this small thing, but why am I like this
Unable to stop my tears?
We saw, we felt, we promised about
That formless thing
Is it still out there somewhere, smiling gently at us?

The two of us are no longer in each other’s eyes
That’s true, but it’s not that
Other things are reflected there
It’s just that the definite thing we saw that day
No longer exists anywhere

Others call it interesting and ridiculous
How we were together
No matter how understanding anyone looks
As they talk about us
Yes, the two of us cannot be understood by anyone else

It’s just this small thing, but why am I like this
Unable to stop my tears?
We saw, we felt, we promised about
That formless–

Others call it interesting and ridiculous
How we were together
No matter how understanding anyone looks
As they talk about us
Yes, the two of us cannot be understood by anyone else


Tell me why
Spoiler:
What are you thinking of now?
In truth, in your eyes
Gentle things and heartwarming things
I want just these to be reflected in your eyes

Why do your eyes look so sad, yet you force yourself
To show me a look of excitement?
Why do you try your best to hold strong,
Telling me that you’re ok?

I want to hear your voice say
That you can’t truly reach me through the monitor screen
Trivial things and silly things
Even these all hold meaning

Why do you always shoulder everything
On your own, suffering alone?
Why do you take all the blame for this
Saying it’s all your fault?

If you do this, I become powerless wow oh
Can’t I even give you a little bit of support?
Hey, I want to share the burden too
Share your pain, your doubt, your past

Why do your eyes look so sad
Yet you force yourself…

Why do you try your best to hold strong,
Telling me that you’re ok?

oh oh Tell me why
oh oh Tell me why
oh oh Tell me why
oh oh Tell me why

oh oh Tell me why
oh oh Tell me why
oh oh Tell me why

Why did you say all that?


the next LOVE
Spoiler:
Lalala…..

Standing in front of Mama’s mirror
Has such an extraordinary appeal
That even a childish girl like me
Can become whatever I wanted to be in my dreams

Believing in things I can’t see with my eyes, someday, I stopped doing that
Believing only in things I can see with my eyes, have I become an adult?

Mama used to say this to me
“Because you are beautiful,
A prince will come and wake you up
With a kiss someday”

Loving the person I am, when did I last do that?
Coming to hate the person I am, have I become an adult?

That thing which they call love
Just where can I find it?
What does it look like?
How much do I need to pay?
Hey, where did you buy it?

Lalala…..


Eyes, Smoke, Magic
Spoiler:
Papa, holding his popcorn in one hand
Is with his buddy, the TV remote, again today
Seeing him, Mama, as usual
Shows a melancholy face, a wrinkle between her brows

Watching them, I pretend not to notice

Yes, my best friends are
Diamonds and roses
Is there anything more valuable?
Mama didn’t teach me about that

Papa is a little different today
Holding nachos in one hand, he watches TV

Again, Mama shows a sullen face
Yes, so again, I’ll remain silent today

Say 「Eyes, Smoke, Magic」

Watching them, I pretend not to notice

Again, Mama shows a sullen face


how beautiful you are
Spoiler:
Thank you again for today
Your smile saved me

Thank you again for today
Just stay there as you are

Because you cried for me
Watching you made me want to cry again

I wish that the feelings I feel through these held hands
Will always be here

You don’t know You don’t know
how beautiful you are
More than you’ll ever know
You don’t know You don’t know
how beautiful you are
Because you are always beautiful

Thank you again for today
Your tears taught me

Thank you again for today
For bringing me through

As long as you keep moving forward
Watching you, I’ll be encouraged again

I wish that this gentle and calm breeze
Will envelop me

You don’t know You don’t know
how beautiful you are
More than you’ll ever know
You don’t know You don’t know
how beautiful you are
You have grown kind and strong

You don’t know You don’t know
how beautiful you are
you are you are
You don’t know You don’t know
how beautiful you are
Because you are always beautiful




BOOKLET (from here)



PV's
Spoiler:









ARENA TOUR 2012 A ~HOTEL Love songs~ (you can download it here)

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Delirium-Zer0 7th July 2014 01:56 AM

Where to start with this one, lol.

I'll get my thoughts on the album booklet out of the way... I think these photos were taken with Leslie Kee for "SUPER AYU" around the same time "FIVE" came out. She did the shoot for Party Queen (which ended up in the second SUPER AYU photobook later), rightfully decided it wasn't right for the album, and used these shots instead. That, on its own, was a good move.

But you can tell these shots weren't taken with the Party Queen album in mind, which makes me more forgiving of what I considered to be tiny little issues.

Unless you're an alcoholic or know someone who is one, the photo of Ayu having breakfast laughing with Timmy nearly negates the whole book, which is geared towards loneliness. The idea of the booklet seems to be that she's got roses, expensive shoes, plentiful jewelry, etc. but no friends once the party is over. However here she is with one real friend, connecting and having breakfast? That's a bit off. Yes, if you've been affected by alcoholism, you'll notice the whiskey on the table. But that detail is the only hint that maybe something is wrong in that photo. That looks like Ayu does indeed have at least one close friend she can talk to.

Ayu's making a duck face when posing with the 10/25 date on the mirror. If you don't know how sad Ayu considers "faking happiness" to be, and if you don't know the significance of that date, and if you don't know that Ayu wrote a death anniversary on the mirror in the "Memorial address" booklet, this photo looks like she's celebrating a happy anniversary, not mourning a sad one. Too many prerequisites for understanding that one, all because she's making a cute face.

I don't want Ayu to fake tears for these sorts of photos, far from it... but taking things in an artistic direction that makes it more obvious that there's sadness hiding behind the bright, happy eyes & smiling face would be preferable. Even just vignetting the photos or something would help considerably.

As for the cover art, Ayu just needed better people for that. lol... It should have looked much, much more obviously like a tabloid magazine cover, but it didn't QUITE get there. Ayu shouldn't have felt the need to say anyone was a genius for figuring that out.

Andrenekoi 7th July 2014 02:18 AM

-I wouldn't be surprised if the date on the mirror was the date she decided divorce Mannie, or announced that to him.

-I like the Terry Richardson-esque photos, IMO they add to the overall decadence that seemed to be so frequent on this album.

-The album (as concept albums tend to do) tells a story, begining from the light view on what a Party queen is (Party queen), things getting darker (NaNaNa, where she calls her lonely queen, and Shake it), they go eat something (taskebab) after clubbing and she goes home thinking about her life at the moment, being it how she never really understood or even felt in love before (call) and it's the first time she shows the darker side of her partying: substance abuse and escapism (Letter, to herself, not Max). The memories don't let her sleep (reminds me) and she finally gets into the point she was trying to run way from, and also the story climax, the failure of her marriage (Return Road, Tell me why). After A cup of a tea, she again faces her difficult in get what the hell love is (the next LOVE) and mirrors her failed relationships to her first relationship example, her parents (Eyes, Smoke, Magic). The closer number (how beautiful you are) can either be a self-enpowerment song for one of the most powerful women on Asia media that still has confidence issues, or the recognization that Mannie wasn't the one to blame for her being a psycho. :P

-Timmy doesn't really look friendly on that photo considering his facial expressions and his hand on her jewels. :P

primavera♥ 7th July 2014 02:49 AM

About the part with timmy, I think that really, it's nice that it's still in between images of her alone. Basically everything else in the book. I don't think she needs to be alone the whole time. It actually shows a reality of people coming around and partying with you and using your things, but eventually it's just you.

I also like that she seems happy in some and emotionless in others. I think that dynamic enough can let someone know what she's aiming for. Especially by the time she's like passed out. Also, the fact the that there is beautiful mess everywhere.

The image with the date may be confusing to anyone who isn't really in tune with her career. But I love that. Something more complex while the rest is more obvious or implied. And really, I think some other stuff in ayu's career takes effort to interpret and understand if you're not a serious fan. Like the interpretations some people give to some things that non-fans wouldn't think of because they don't know how ayu is.

Idk, I think there is enough of seemingly happy ayu, and then the lost ayu. Really, the part where she is passed out seals it. And then I think the music is an important part of this because not everyone studies the booklet like that. Once you get to the second part of the album, the darker mood is more clear. If not too obvious.

I wasn't really following ayu during this release so I kind of saw everything at once and took it for what it was and that's what I got from it. A lonely queen who appears happy. But really has other things going on.

Delirium-Zer0 7th July 2014 03:03 AM

The album is definitely a story, but I don't think it's quite as linear as what you've put there, Andrenekoi... The album is a journey of self-esteem that involves a LOT of looking back and introspection.

You know how in psychology they say "you have to admit to yourself that you have a problem"? I think that's what the first three tracks are doing. On the surface they have very basic, fun lyrics and melodies but she has these scattered moments of darkness that make it clear what's brewing under the surface.

1. On Facebook, Timmy was frustratedly posting things like "Do you guys even know what a party queen IS??" For those unfamiliar, a party queen is the one who brings all the drugs and booze to a party and is the life of the proceedings, but who ultimately self-destructs because their low self-esteem makes them abuse the substances they're so known for furnishing. Ayu had posted on TA about her drinking often, and once addressed TA about it, saying "I know you all worry I drink too much, I'll be careful, I promise" (At some point I'll go through old TA messages and find it to cite it). She had a mini-fridge just for beer at one point. The woman drank too much - she probably wasn't a full blown alcoholic but it was enough that she didn't feel good about doing it. With lyrics like "Everything around me is rosy, but like magic I'd rather be hypnotized by these gold bubbles (champagne or beer)" you can tell she doesn't even know WHAT she's escaping by drinking anymore.

2. NaNaNa tells us, with its sound, what 1025 means. On October 25 2007, Aneki died of a suicide, that one is obvious; But also, on October 25, 2011, Keiko of globe suffered a subarachnoid hemorrhage (the same thing that killed hide of X-Japan) and luckily survived and has been recovering since. On the anniversary of her best friend's death, Ayu almost lost someone else. NaNaNa sounds like a globe song, with Timmy imitating Marc Panther by deepening his voice so much that when the album first came out, fans thought it was Marc. The techno-dance sound of it is very globesque as well, and the lyrics are all about partying because you only live once. The lyrics make mention of life being short and having fun with your friends being the most important thing, but due to the siren sound effects and ticking clock sounds, it sounds very very dark. You party because life is short, and life is made shorter because you party.

3. Shake It <3 addresses ayu's low self-esteem and body image head on, and I can't help but wonder if her obsession with working out & taking care of her body comes as much from a place of insecurity as it does from a place of wanting to be healthy. Ayu has been subject to audience gaze since she was very, very young; she clearly lost weight between her aidoru and avex eras. And at her age, being still unmarried is going to make you panic about your attractiveness. So in the bridge when she sings "Don't tell me that girl is more loved than I am; I already know" in the middle of a whole "Aren't girls awesome??" statement, you can tell that as much as she adores being a girl, she still feels like something of an outsider among them.

Those three tracks set the stage for the rest of the album, as they basically are ayu saying "Yaaayyy things are awesome and fun.... but actually they're really, really not."

5. call is what we all think to ourselves when we think we were in love but it doesn't work out. This is the kind of song we'd probably write much earlier on, but Ayu was in one relationship for 7 of what are often very formative years in our exploration of what we want out of our relationships. We really do feel like we're in love every single time, so when people say "It wasn't REAL LOVE" we feel like slapping them. All we know is that it felt nice. So if it isn't love, what is it? And do we even want to know? If it really was love, you end up feeling like dirt because now you've lost something you might never get back; if it wasn't, you feel foolish for being so stupid.

6. Letter - Knowing what I know about Ayu, I always considered this to be a letter from someone else TO ayu, from the sound of it, a former colleague or old friend. (I think "tell me why" is intended to be from someone else to ayu as well, but more on that later.) This is clearly someone she shares good memories with and whose judgment she trusts, or maybe this is something she just WISHES someone would say to her. The letter is both cynical and warm - something that acknowledges how hard it is to get something amazing, but at the same time these words are the kind of thing you'd cherish hearing from someone who cares. I think the underlying idea behind this song is appreciating what companions you have, and appreciating not having to sacrifice who you are in order to have them.

7. Something about "reminds me" makes me think there's trauma in Ayu's past we don't yet know about. This doesn't sound like it's about her father, it sounds far angrier. Sexual abuse during her aidoru days, perhaps, given her insistence on not talking about that entire part of her life. That's conjecture on my part of course, but it's probably worth thinking about. Her insistence on using the word "forget" over and over in the chorus, not only that but mostly using the -te form (used for both linking phrases together and for commands & requests) almost sounds like she's trying to hypnotize herself into forgetting, like she's shutting her eyes & ears, and telling herself "forget, forget, forget" while simultaneously reminding herself and her listeners that these pains are part of who we are, and we have to carry those scars with us. The song could be applicable to all sorts of traumas and it's both encouraging and upsetting - the key change between the two "la la la" segments supports that idea, that it's mournful in the first part but the second part is optimistic that maybe she (and we) will be able to cope eventually. In any case, I do think this ties into the theme of self-esteem running through the album, and like "Letter" is a moment where Ayu seems to be going from feeling damaged to feeling empowered.

8. Return Road is a continuation of "call" that seems more mature and more grounded in reality. This is where the real introspection comes in, where "call" felt more like her yelling at the naysayers around her. Return Road is her acknowledgment that it was nice, but it ended, and the reasons why are between them; It's also her hope that she can still find love eventually, and her hope that he can still find love eventually too. In this song she's grown beyond needing outside approval or understanding regarding this very personal thing. She's definitely an adult here, where in "call" she was acting like a reactive, angry teenager, and she knows that.

9. Tell me why is one of the more outwardly obvious songs on the album, conceptually. Whoever is talking to Ayu in this song is upset that she's "going against her sad eyes and showing a delighted face," "pretending to be strong," etc. This person wants her to be honest, and "say the things that can't be conveyed through a TV screen." Ayu does have a tendency to put on a brave face and say she has things under control, and she's always taken it upon herself when the Hamasaki Ayumi product fails in some way - which HAS to damage her sense of self. This song is, again, a friend counseling her through that and trying to get her to stop.

10. Ayu's choice to do "the next LOVE" and "Eyes, Smoke, Magic" in a jazzy stage musical style is intriguing. The obvious reference to the stage aside, it makes you wonder how much of it to take literally and how much to treat as a fiction. I think the next LOVE is the only one of the two you can take literally... In this song "Mama" may very well be Mariko. She's made reference in the past about believing in invisible things being nice - now she's mourning her inability to do that anymore. Already on the album we've seen the growth & maturity apparent in the difference between "call" and "Return Road," and now with THIS track she's wondering if growing up necessarily means cynicism and unhappiness. And with the line "How much does [love] sell for? Hey, where did you girls buy yours?" we kind of understand why she suddenly went glam in so many ways after her relationship with Tomoya Nagase ended - which, looking back, was about when the shift into hime-gyaru/glam style started. She started filling that emptiness in with "stuff." This song is more smoky jazz club style though, not QUITE that stagey...

12. Eyes, Smoke, Magic is more of a stage performance. The sound effects are distractingly obvious in the arrangement as though adding artificiality to the whole thing, and while that was probably deliberate it's not especially aurally pleasant. Anyway, this one is more of a performance... Papa and Mama in this song are probably based on Ayu's literal parents separating, however her memories of them together would be FULL of blanks that she's using herself & Mannie to fill in. She's now looking at her parents, and looking at her own marriage, and wondering what lessons she learned about how marriage is supposed to work. The bridge can be interpreted two different ways, and I think that was done deliberately with Ayu singing and then Timmy singing an echo of the same line: "Yes, my best friends are diamonds & roses" sounds like close friends are worth as much as jewels and fine flowers... "Yes, my best friends are the diamond and the rose" makes it sound like jewelry and roses are Ayu's only constant, reliable companions who always make her feel better. Again, some light is shined on Ayu's choice to be glam, and as the album has progressed, Ayu has addressed that issue head-on in an attempt to rebuild her self-confidence.

14. how beautiful you are is Ayu cheering herself on as much as she's cheering the listener on. In the video she walks into the same wind as everyone else, making it clear that she has no idea how beautiful she is, and she needs to remind herself of that. The verses of the song are sung to a friend who was there for her; the chorus is sung to herself, or from the POV of said friend. It's a duet with herself.

But yeah, the whole album is Ayu acknowledging her issues, facing her feelings about her relationships and professional life and drinking head-on, and ending the album with a true attempt to believe in herself.

God I love this album so much.

Andrenekoi 7th July 2014 03:07 AM

I could add the fact city landscape (in the middle of the booklet) is P&B. It can show the party is just an escapism from gray reality out there, which really conveys the "decadence" of the rest of the photobook.

jyujiw 7th July 2014 03:13 AM

I absolutely love this album. The concept and music wise. The PVs are really trashy but I really love how she portrayed in general the "image of herself in the society" as she said on an interview.

Obviously some things could be better worked, like the elements in the cover to simulate a tabloid cover, but the photos are on the point imo. I always think on them like forms to express the excess in alcohol (CD+DVD), consumption (CD only) and sex (CD+2DVD). As if they're the three things that media could call her: the alcoholic, the consumerist and the slut.

About the songs, I really love how they tell a story, lyric wise is like a interview about how her marriage failed, it was one of the few moments that I felt that she was really telling what she was feeling in that moment, and not bringing someone's else story.

The order is like: "Hey I'm having fun, can't you see? I'm very happy!" and then, it goes darker and darker, as she's not having the love that she wanted and thought to have, ending in the climax of Return Road and the divorce. Then she turns cynical about love in the jazzy section, being delusional and trying to redeem herself in the last song.

Meanwhile, like it's her most personal album imo, I think it's great to hear that most of the music is rock influenced, it has even more than RnRC hahahaha
And it's a genre that fits perfectly Ayu. So, that also quite explains why I love this album so much :heart

Andrenekoi 7th July 2014 03:18 AM

@Deli
Well, I really liked your take on the lyrics, but I still believe the album is heavily rooted on her divorce, leading to a deeper self-analysis on the way she seemed and acted during her relationships. I like to see Love songs - Party Queen - LOVE again as a triology concerning Ayu's emotional maturing.

Delirium-Zer0 7th July 2014 05:18 AM

I do think the divorce from Mannie was a big impetus for her to look inside herself... as though if she was wrong about her idea of love & what she wanted out of a relationship, what else might she have been wrong about?

I like your idea bout the cityscape - the fact that it's all monochrome supports that idea.

DonkeyKongRemix 7th July 2014 05:43 AM

@Delirium-Zer0

This is certainly in depth and told me a lot about this album. I sort of lost interest in Ayumi after this album was released.... I only listened to the songs just to know what they sounded like and then just...left it all alone afterwards. I judged the cd as being just desperate and trashy but now I see it's much darker and sad. Though none of us know for a fact what these songs mean, I'd say your analysis has a fair chance at being at least more than halfway right.

Thanks for this. It has helped me learn to like this CD much better... I now see how it could potentially be her darkest album yet. :( Very sad...

(sorry, I tried to quote your huge post but messed up... XD

jyujiw 7th July 2014 06:37 AM

PS: @Delirium-Zer0 needs to be congratulated for the effort in bringing that detailed explanation about things that many of us think about the album :heart

It's interesting that I always found out the "Party queen" song a little bit strange, it always made me feel like "Hey, this isn't fun at all". That heavy synth during the pre-chorus and its "explosion" in the chorus kinda makes me feel like there's something persecuting and threatening Ayu.

kalikagai 7th July 2014 08:50 AM

Dunno if it was stated anywhere, but did you notice XOXO on the mirror?

Any ideas?

rainbow_smile 7th July 2014 11:49 AM

I just noticed: in the booklet, on the Serenade in A minor and hbya page, on the picture she's kinda smiling, but to me she actually looks not so happy in the mirror. I might be mistaken though, and maybe it wasn't done on purpose.

280301 7th July 2014 02:00 PM

Interesting lyric similarities with LOVEppears...

Delirium-Zer0 7th July 2014 03:29 PM

LOVEppears is another album that got better when I looked at the lyrics more closely.

Party Queen really needed less amateurish mixing IMHO. Half the songs sound like demos. The other half are crazy good, but yeah. The way BG vocals are mixed in Returm Road and hbya is really not good, some other song are just plain uneven. Even aside from that the sound is rather 90s and a bit plain, which made the album easy to write off. :(

Surreal17 7th July 2014 07:10 PM

I love Deli's analysis.

few words about the artwork
Have you all noticed how on the back of the album, the city landscape turns purple? Her name is also written with the same colour on the front cover so I think the conclusion is that at the end of the battle ayu finally 'reached an agreement' with her self. Party Queen letters are written with yellow and the "13 album" stamp is like a mix between Ayumi & the party queen (a bit more yellow signifying ayu's bad habbits, traumas, disappointments, sacrifices, lush life etc. & less purple - ayu knows that she must find a balance in everything).

Symbolism of colours.
Purple became the color of kings, nobles, priests and magistrates all around the Mediterranean in Ancient times. Also, Purple and violet also played an important part in the religious paintings of the Renaissance. Angels and the Virgin Mary were often portrayed wearing purple or violet robes.

Yellow is commonly associated with gold, wealth, and pleasure, but also with envy, jealousy and betrayal.

The use of colours are realy interesting but still, it may not be true what I'm implying.

DonkeyKongRemix 7th July 2014 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NintendoHTF1242 (Post 3086557)
lol she also posted Party Queen thoughts in the ayu anything goes threads and was also the reason why I decided to take another listen to Party Queen. Ended up loving it even more.


I haven't had the chance to listen to very much of it since I can't buy it right now and it isn't available to listen to online, but I know I appreciate it much, much more now.

Machiko 7th July 2014 08:09 PM

Love this topic! I honestly suck at understanding these things and I definitely enjoy reading all these things.

One thing I noticed though, the rose behind her back is thornless—could it mean something? "Even roses have thorns"... Yet this one doesn't, and it's "hidden" behind her back. Am I over thinking, stupid or both but... Could it mean, you know... defenceless??? Or something? but wanting to hide it?

Andrenekoi 7th July 2014 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Surreal17 (Post 3086648)
I love Deli's analysis.

few words about the artwork
Have you all noticed how on the back of the album, the city landscape turns purple? Her name is also written with the same colour on the front cover so I think the conclusion is that at the end of the battle ayu finally 'reached an agreement' with her self. Party Queen letters are written with yellow and the "13 album" stamp is like a mix between Ayumi & the party queen (a bit more yellow signifying ayu's bad habbits, traumas, disappointments, sacrifices, lush life etc. & less purple - ayu knows that she must find a balance in everything).

Symbolism of colours.
Purple became the color of kings, nobles, priests and magistrates all around the Mediterranean in Ancient times. Also, Purple and violet also played an important part in the religious paintings of the Renaissance. Angels and the Virgin Mary were often portrayed wearing purple or violet robes.

Yellow is commonly associated with gold, wealth, and pleasure, but also with envy, jealousy and betrayal.

The use of colours are realy interesting but still, it may not be true what I'm implying.

Be cautious while using color symbolism to analyse eastern stuff, color symbolism isn't universal and different cultures add different meanings to different colors... I'm not an expert on japanese color symbolism, but I know white for example is used on several death related rituals over there, unlike in the west where we tend to use black. Or using an example closer to me, while blue is often associated with sadness and depression on Europe and North America, it's a very joyful color on the brazilian culture, mostly because we link it with the clear and warm summer sky.

But as I said, I don't really know japanese color symbolism, so, you may be right xD And I think it's interesting applying color symbolism while seeing Ayu's work, even because I remember reading once that japanese design puts the color meanings/feelings over the color contrast and aesthetic while picking up color pallets.

marty 7th July 2014 09:50 PM

Yes, I was hoping this thread would be posted!!
I feel too Love Songs, Party Queen and LOVE again are a trilogy, they're too connected, lyric wise.
I always felt like Tell me why is addressed to Ayu too. Maybe it's somehow about Mannie too (perhaps is about them, very far away, talking to each other in front of a computer screen), but a lot of themes are too familiar. Like the part when she's singing "why do you take all the blame" or "why do you desperately try to hide your weakness, saying “I’m fine”. Ayu used similar expressions about herself many times before, in lyrics and interviews.

DonkeyKongRemix 7th July 2014 10:05 PM

I noticed something when scrolling through some older topics. One of them was a poll asking which album people thought was Ayu's saddest. This was before Party Queen was even released. Most of the people voting chose either GUILTY or Duty.

Now that we've been talking about Party Queen, I noticed that the three albums have something interesting in common: all three have some kind of animal print used on the covers, all three being wild cat patterns such as leopard or cheetah. I find this interesting. I always thought that cat-patterns like those suited her very well, but It's interesting to note that three of her darkest, saddest albums include animal print.

While I may be looking too far into these things, it's fun to play with ideas. I wonder if animal print is somewhat symbolic of untamed emotions. Very intriguing to me, though I'd like to know what everyone else thinks.

Miltonic 7th July 2014 10:34 PM

^that is right, she always uses leopard for sad/personal albums, A BEST an album she didn't want to release also used leopard print in its promotions.

marty 7th July 2014 10:50 PM

^^
Wow, I never noticed that! It's true, it seems leopard print makes Ayu think about sadness and such!

Delirium-Zer0 7th July 2014 11:02 PM

I noticed that when GUILTY came out actually, then Party Queen really cemented it. It could be that ayu feels like wildcats have a certain power and grace that she admires, being that she falls on it when she feels she's at her weakest.

As for the color - I wouldn't call the shade purple, it's definitely a barbie pink or fuschia type shade (not too far from the "deeppink" color I used use in my AHS posts, it's just a bit darker & more purple). However the transition from black & white to pink is worth noting... the idea of "monochrome" as a metaphor for loss of feeling has come up in her lyrics more than once, but she uses pink in her packaging & designs fairly commonly. I'd have to look closer at most of it for a common thread between them though.

mi|kshake 7th July 2014 11:22 PM

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2. NaNaNa tells us, with its sound, what 1025 means. On October 25 2007, Aneki died of a suicide, that one is obvious; But also, on October 25, 2011, Keiko of globe suffered a subarachnoid hemorrhage (the same thing that killed hide of X-Japan) and luckily survived and has been recovering since. On the anniversary of her best friend's death, Ayu almost lost someone else. NaNaNa sounds like a globe song, with Timmy imitating Marc Panther by deepening his voice so much that when the album first came out, fans thought it was Marc. The techno-dance sound of it is very globesque as well, and the lyrics are all about partying because you only live once. The lyrics make mention of life being short and having fun with your friends being the most important thing, but due to the siren sound effects and ticking clock sounds, it sounds very very dark. You party because life is short, and life is made shorter because you party.
Whoa, I never knew that about Keiko! Interesting points about NaNaNa and 1025.

280301 8th July 2014 02:32 AM

Also, the settings of the album covers for Duty, GUILTY, and Party Queen.

Duty - cage.
GUILTY - desert.
Party Queen - apartment.

Duty and Party Queen's are quite explicit. A cage is pretty obvious in the sense that it presents both incarceration and isolation, whilst apartments further represent claustrophobia and due to this are often utilised in such a way in certain genres (thriller, horror, etc).
I think also, you can argue that the desert in GUILTY also represents a form of encasement, but also that of a continuing journey (and I think this is supported by songs such as decision).
Furthermore, I think it accurately displays her emphasis on retrospect that we would see on NEXT LEVEL and Rock 'n' Roll Circus (You were..., Don't look back).
Continuing onto my main point however, Duty and Party Queen both have Ayu being stationery and compounded in claustrophobic environments - she's overwhelmed by her issues and cannot move freely. Moreover, the only way in which she can develop and move on is through confronting said issues (SURREAL/letter/call lyrics). In short, to leave the cages she produced herself, she has to dismantle them herself - definitely in the case of Party Queen, the final song, how beautiful you are. I think this embodies freedom as it presents acceptance of herself (which feeds into the self-esteem theory that others have espoused here too).

Duty too is interesting, as the tracks primarily deal with isolation and a lack of understanding by others, and the final song girlish is based upon her having fun with her friends? Hm.

DonkeyKongRemix 8th July 2014 06:09 AM

Cool, glad I'm not the only one to see the connections between these albums. This is one of the things that makes Ayu an artist: we want to delve into the meanings behind her works, her music that is. Most pop music I hear, I just take it for what it sounds like. But, Ayumi Hamasaki has always managed to make her music more complex than that.

Delirium-Zer0 8th July 2014 06:12 AM

Ayu seems to use deserts to illustrate both the freedom of going on a journey, and the loneliness of doing it by oneself... It could be that she's deliberately trying to emphasize the dichotomy between them both. In the "I am..." booklet she's on a mission of peace, but the dove flies away from her in the end, leaving her alone, for example. The GUILTY booklet has her going on her life's journey, but she's on her own for the first time in years.

Party Queen and Duty definitely give you the sense of her being alone... in Duty, she's breaking out of that isolation and connecting with her fans; on Party Queen she only has the one friend to talk to, mostly everything is just a mess. You get the hope from the last track of the album that she's accepted herself and feels a bit better, but you're left only with optimism rather than closure, which is interesting.

jyujiw 8th July 2014 08:07 AM

I love reading everything you guys post about it :heart

It's really interesting the connection between the animal print and her defenseless moments indeed.

ayu-michan 8th July 2014 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by nalini-dahlia (Post 3086652)
I haven't had the chance to listen to very much of it since I can't buy it right now and it isn't available to listen to online, but I know I appreciate it much, much more now.

Here, if you want to ^^ This is the playlist for the whole album:
http://www.nhaccuatui.com/playlist/p...xEfpMTixF.html

Deli's posts on the anything goes thread:
http://ahsforum.com/forum/showthread...118947&page=19

Her analysis earlier was so detailed and it perfectly described what I had in mind, not to even say that there were lots of details I didn't even notice in the first place :)

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Originally Posted by rainbow_smile (Post 3086585)
I just noticed: in the booklet, on the Serenade in A minor and hbya page, on the picture she's kinda smiling, but to me she actually looks not so happy in the mirror. I might be mistaken though, and maybe it wasn't done on purpose.

I saw the same thing. It doesn't seem like it was done on purpose, but well, if it was on purpose, I interpret it as something like she's smiling outside but her image reflected on the mirror shows a different face expression (sad?). I was staring at her pose a lot when I first saw the booklet. It almost looks like she's posing for the mirror image.

This album is definitely forever my favorite, and well, it is no material for casual listeners.

I think the subject that was talked about a lot in the tour was the "I am a lonely queen" part during Party queen perf, it would be interesting to hear some opinions on it.

Andrenekoi 8th July 2014 05:54 PM

^I had never noticed the facial expression looked so different on the mirror! :0 I woudn't be surprised if it was done on purpose... She looks really troubled on the mirror!

About the "lonely queen" bit... The last section of AT12 opens with Ladies Night, a song about friendship among women and the way it helps healing a heartache, so, she is basically singing about partying to forget the pain of a failed relationship. Party queen comes next, adding that bit to make the duality between being the Party queen and being alone clear, so, just like Ladies Night sings about how she partying to forget her pain, on Party queen she is singing about how even if she is having fun while partying and drinking, the pain and the loneliness don't go away. The next track is S~e~S, that by itself, isn't really a happy medley either:

Spoiler:
It's not that choosing only the things you like
Is irresponsible
If you can't even find something you like
There's no way you can be responsible for it
The more responsibilities I shoulder, the more possibilities I gain

If it’s something I don’t need
Then your sympathy is no use at all
If something that’s important to me
Then pain will always come with it
Feeling lonely even when you're with someone
Is even harder than feeling lonely when you're alone

No matter how lonely you are
No matter how much pain you receive
You can't shut off your feelings
Even if you’re lost for words
No matter how much you say you don’t care
If you stumble in the road, you'll hold out your hands to break your fall
That’s the way it is

Ah, there's no way I can keep
The promises we made that day on my own
Ah, there's no way I can make
Those dreams we talked about come true on my own
I can’t tell anyone, I want to tell someone
That he’s more important to me than anyone else

Yeah, we seem to have greeted a new era
It may be a miracle
We’ll never taste this again
Remember one more time

The day we were born into this world
We were surely kind of happy
And we were surely kind of sad
We were crying
Wow yeah wow yeah wow wow yeah

Reality betrays us
And even our judgements can be wrong
So be sure to judge their worth
By your own standards

We’ve been born into these times
But somehow we’re moving forward
So somehow we’re standing here
Seeing today through
Wow yeah wow yeah wow yeah

We’ve been born into this world
In a way we were really happy
And in a way we were really sad
As we cried at the top of our lungs
Wow yeah wow yeah wow wow yeah

I was born into these times
But I was able to meet you
I was born into this world
That’s how I was able to meet you

The day we were born into this world
We were surely kind of happy
And we were surely kind of sad
We were crying
Wow yeah wow yeah wow wow yeah

We’ve been born into these times
But somehow we’re moving forward
So somehow we’re standing here
Seeing today through
Wow yeah wow yeah wow yeah

La la la…
I stand in this nowhere place
As I am
Please stay the way you are
I want you to stay that way

La la la…
I stand in this nowhere place
As I am
Please stay the way you are
I want you to stay the way you are forever


So, at the end of the Hotel Divorce (:P) Songs concert, she has no hope in love and is sure she will be alone forever, because such thing doesn't really exist. She is conformed being alone is her destiny. When she starts ending the concert on such a bitter note, the concert (represented by the band, the singers, the curtains, the lights, everything) refuse to end itself that way/Ayu friends (her crew) refuses to let her end the concert that way, she keeps on trying to finish the concert and just leave, and they won't let her, until she's finally convinced and sings the final number, that serves both as "moral of the story" and as a proper finish to her journey looking for love: Love song.

Haha, sorry for commenting on the whole section, but as the tour is highly based on stage musicals, it's not really possible to get the idea of a song without the context of the others.

ayu-michan 8th July 2014 08:04 PM

^ Aah I see I see. I never actually looked into the show, and well I look at the songs separately so that's why I couldn't understand. The Love Songs explanation helped clear it up for me because I was wondering what was happening before the song started. Thanks for explaining :) (and lolll your jokes lmao I can't)

DonkeyKongRemix 8th July 2014 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ayu-michan (Post 3086851)
Here, if you want to ^^ This is the playlist for the whole album:
http://www.nhaccuatui.com/playlist/p...xEfpMTixF.html

Deli's posts on the anything goes thread:
http://ahsforum.com/forum/showthread...118947&page=19

Her analysis earlier was so detailed and it perfectly described what I had in mind, not to even say that there were lots of details I didn't even notice in the first place :)



I saw the same thing. It doesn't seem like it was done on purpose, but well, if it was on purpose, I interpret it as something like she's smiling outside but her image reflected on the mirror shows a different face expression (sad?). I was staring at her pose a lot when I first saw the booklet. It almost looks like she's posing for the mirror image.

This album is definitely forever my favorite, and well, it is no material for casual listeners.

A bit irrelevant and sorry for asking, but Ayu has 2 tattoos? The first one is obviously on her top right back, and the second one that was seen lower on her back, near her hip in the hbya page, is it a real one or a fake one? I remember the Majesty Japan photoshoot last year shows her other tattoos but I wasn't sure if they were real or not.

I think the subject that was talked about a lot in the tour was the "I am a lonely queen" part during Party queen perf, it would be interesting to hear some opinions on it.

Thanks for the link! I'm listening to it now! :D

waterballoon 9th July 2014 05:00 PM

Del-Zero thank you very much for your analysis on the tracks of the album! I got new perspective on some of them (especially NaNaNa, call & Letter) :)

This PQ era reminds me a lot of the recent Colours era. That the music is very very good, but the visuals border on garbage. At least Colours had classy covers, but I really really really detest the Party Queen era for all of its visuals & here's why:

Covers:
No, just no. I always love reading little details in print art, and if there's nothing to read into, beautiful things always makes me appreciate them a lot.

But yeah, this is an example where covers are done so horribly with no class that I couldn't care less about what "hidden message" she wants to convey.

So she's "lonely", "alcoholic" and "sad"? Sorry Ayu IDGAF because for whatever messages you wanna see, you fail the moment your visuals don't match with each other. I hate how she doesn't go all the way... if you want to "lonely queen", partying and drinking all night and waking up alone then show it to me. Timmy being your gay bestie sidekick drinking alcohol in the daytime doesn't mean much to me.

Your wet combed back hair looks like you just dived into the pool. Your perfect pretty make up shows you just woke up from partying; a streak of mascara would be perfect for that little indication of crying alone, but no. It's just glamorous (actually trashy glamorous)... you can't do Terry Richardson so don't try.

The covers are a huge fail & I cannot express how much I hate them. In the CD-only she also looks like an alien head with stick hands... what's with the overtly bright lightning too? So much for "dark".

PVs:
My respect for her as a professional artiste fell a little with the Return Road PV. No, I just can't. She ain't no Kim Kardishan or Rihanna or B-List artiste who depends on their personal scandals for music news. That move of putting Mannie's photo in the PV is just disgusting for me, because it tells me she's run out of real creative ideas that she needs to rely on something that already has such a bad rep... *shaking head*.

For Deli's wonderful dig into "NaNaNa" and "Shake It :heart", I'm shocked their PVs suck so badly... so so badly it's an embarrassment to watch. The plots were garbage, the inclusion of Timmy was more reductive than necessary... and they don't reveal anything introspective or personal like how she desperately wanted to yell out in the tour (which I'll get to later). Also she looks very old and ugly in both PVs with that Justin Bieber x Peter Pan hair :no

The only decent one was how beautiful you are. She still looked scary regardless. But whatever, I'll give her that.

ARENA TOUR 2012 ~HOTEL Love Songs~:
Officially her worst concert ever imo.

1) her vocals are horrible. garbage even. I listened to digests and what not on YouTube for a quick recap & I think my ears are bleeding. did she have a flu while recording or was she high on alcohol before she started? she sounded so so so so so off and horrible it's shocking even for her standards

2) it is self-indulgent, in a disgusting manner. like Lady Gaga wasn't enough with her antics to show everyone how indulgent she is into herself, Ayu brings it into a whole concert.

I will never ever get over the "I am the lonely queen" desperation in the Party queen performance.

Unprofessional, desperate & giving everyone the chance to say she's failing. Because she was at that moment. Had she gone out to shave her head bald the next day I wouldn't be surprised.

Girl, you release an album post-first divorce trying to make a statement on how sad you are with covers and booklet that don't match it, and when you realize how inconsistent you were, you wanna notch it up with this?! No-go man did you consult your mom before this lame move?!!?!

3) extravagant use of everything... for nothing
I get that it's a hotel ensemble so you probably needed to haul the whole working staff of Hilton hotel in Tokyo to prance around you... but still, horrible execution.

There was never once she was alone, and I think she knows her vocals suck for this tour and that she couldn't be bothered to actually perform (her lazy, nasal vocals sing it all, so does her desperate antics) so she got her dancers and band to literally surround her so she can get away with making mistakes.

Um also, pulling the "MY MAN DON'T GO AWAY I NEED YOU DO YOU SEE MY HAND REACHING OUT???!!!!!!!!!! :sobs" THRICE in the whole concert reeks of a lack of ideas.

4) Maro
ugh I get that she's mentally unstable in this era but even with a flaming gay sidekick like Timmy (she's almost a disgrace to pretty pony~pretty pony~pretty pony~ Hags) she couldn't keep her pants on!

Right after AT 12 we get the little fling with Maro that spun to more shit in 2013. just really cements the idea that she isn't herself in 2012 and someone should be with her emotionally more often than anything.

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I like the album "Party Queen" very much. It has some of her rawest lyrics since I am... (since RAINBOW she has taken a very universal "we" take on her lyrics, with MY STORY & a bit of Memorial address going back to personal space), and Party Queen is her diary of her adult 30-something self.

I appreciate that, because the lyrics in every song sans how beautiful you are were darn good and introspective.

But that's what angers me the most.

That with such good musical content, she failed in everything.

Anyway all this is my take and my opinion, so don't take it too hard. I know Andrenekoi is gonna come and berate me for my negative opinions on this era but truthfully I'm interested to see a positive opinion on her visuals for this era, just to see the differences!

Andrenekoi 9th July 2014 05:17 PM

^Yeah, I will.

This isn't a "do you like the album?" thread, and I even asked to not come over here to say "this all sucks". Really, don't post over here unless you have something to add to the discussion.

Even disliking is welcomed unless it's just a long "do not like because sucks" rant.

waterballoon 9th July 2014 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3086973)
^Yeah, I will.

This isn't a "do you like the album?" thread, and I even asked to not come over here to say "this all sucks". Really, don't post over here unless you have something to add to the discussion.

Even disliking is welcomed unless it's just a long "do not like because sucks" rant.

I believe I have good reason though, ;) could've been worse like "HORRIBLE".

And I did like this album/era for whatever I liked about it. The album reminds me a lot of ASFxx & LOVEppears with all the self-doubt and questioning, but made even more interesting because she's an adult this time round.

I'm sorry I don't have praises for everything about it... it's just not connecting on several levels :headache

Delirium-Zer0 9th July 2014 07:00 PM

waterballoon, I freaking love you. So so very much. YOU UNDERSTAND!!

I think one of the reasons I dissect & examine this album as much as I do is so I can sorta push away the bad aspects of its release... It really could have been this great amazing return to form for Ayu with lyrics & conceptual ideas like this, but there's just a laundry list of reasons why it didn't end up doing that.

Andrenekoi 9th July 2014 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 3086976)
I believe I have good reason though, ;) could've been worse like "HORRIBLE".

And I did like this album/era for whatever I liked about it. The album reminds me a lot of ASFxx & LOVEppears with all the self-doubt and questioning, but made even more interesting because she's an adult this time round.

I'm sorry I don't have praises for everything about it... it's just not connecting on several levels :headache

It's not a thread to praise the album either, it's a thread to discuss its concepts, a thread for us to discuss what we think Ayu tried to portray or say with this era. Deli disliked the album and discussed it, you disliked and only bashed it on that post. On the same way, I really dislike every thing related to the Rock'n'Roll Circus era and still will open a thread for discussing it.

waterballoon 10th July 2014 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3087005)
It's not a thread to praise the album either, it's a thread to discuss its concepts, a thread for us to discuss what we think Ayu tried to portray or say with this era. Deli disliked the album and discussed it, you disliked and only bashed it on that post. On the same way, I really dislike every thing related to the Rock'n'Roll Circus era and still will open a thread for discussing it.

I am discussing the concept(s) or sometimes lack thereof, no?

It's an analysis thread, and when you analyze something there is always gonna be good stuff and bad stuff.

Just as much as I love to read the good stuff, I hope you love to read the bad stuff too.

ayumisrael 11th July 2014 11:19 PM

I think that Andrenekoi meant that the point of these threads is to share concepts and obviously it's only if you think that there is a concept too.

Whether the concept is good, bad, to one's liking or not or if it lacks or lacks a concept doesn't fit the sharing ideas of the concepts threads.

maneayu 15th July 2014 09:44 AM

Idk but after watching Helter Skelter made me think that Party Queen looks like a reference to that story. An ambitious girl who just care about her beauty, and she is sad and drunk all the time. But is just crazy to think like that about Ayu :S

Andrenekoi 15th July 2014 06:56 PM

^evolution wasn't picked as a song for the movie for no reason...^^

maneayu 15th July 2014 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3087808)
^evolution wasn't picked as a song for the movie for no reason...^^

true, true!

DonkeyKongRemix 22nd July 2014 05:38 AM

I was listening to the title track, Party Queen...

...I really avoided listening to it because for some reason the sound of it made me uncomfortable. I think I know why now. Just the sound of it alone, and how she ends her choruses with "I am the Party Queen," with a tone of voice that makes it sound as though she's smiling, I really feel as though she is making fun of herself. The lyrics and the tone of the song seriously makes it feel as though she is pointing out how "cool" she is but with a sarcastic, almost humiliated way.

I especially felt this way when the song ended with laughter. As if people just cracked up laughing at her.

labello 22nd July 2014 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by nalini-dahlia (Post 3088498)

I especially felt this way when the song ended with laughter. As if people just cracked up laughing at her.

It doesn't sound like a genuine laugh, not laughing with someone but more like at someone!
It reminds me of a friend of mine who thought that drinking alcohol would relax her which in turn would mean more people would like her (she'd be more open and fun or something like that). So she drank, drank too much and did embarrassing stuff. When her new "friends" and her would talk about those stories they'd all laugh and think it's funny how she embarrassed herself and to not feel left out she'd laugh with them.
To me it sounds exactly like that. Laughing with someone although it's not genuine, although it's fake and they might even be making fun of her.

DonkeyKongRemix 23rd July 2014 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by labello (Post 3088591)
It doesn't sound like a genuine laugh, not laughing with someone but more like at someone!
It reminds me of a friend of mine who thought that drinking alcohol would relax her which in turn would mean more people would like her (she'd be more open and fun or something like that). So she drank, drank too much and did embarrassing stuff. When her new "friends" and her would talk about those stories they'd all laugh and think it's funny how she embarrassed herself and to not feel left out she'd laugh with them.
To me it sounds exactly like that. Laughing with someone although it's not genuine, although it's fake and they might even be making fun of her.

That is so mean of those people to do that. :(

That's totally what I was talking about, though. When someone laughs at themselves while other people are doing it just to feel less like an idiot...or something or another... It seems pretty sad to me and I've seen things like that occur.

Delirium-Zer0 24th July 2014 10:06 PM

You know, I definitely got the sarcastic aspect of it, but "humiliated" hadn't come to mind - what an interesting thing to notice! And I think that's probably true, whether it was deliberate or not, that there's a layer of malicious teasing there, that she has probably done things she's been really embarrassed about when drunk.

summerain 26th April 2019 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nalini-dahlia (Post 3088498)
I was listening to the title track, Party Queen...

...I really avoided listening to it because for some reason the sound of it made me uncomfortable. I think I know why now. Just the sound of it alone, and how she ends her choruses with "I am the Party Queen," with a tone of voice that makes it sound as though she's smiling, I really feel as though she is making fun of herself. The lyrics and the tone of the song seriously makes it feel as though she is pointing out how "cool" she is but with a sarcastic, almost humiliated way.

I especially felt this way when the song ended with laughter. As if people just cracked up laughing at her.

Yeah, I've noticed that since the first listen. They are laughing at her, not with her.

And I like how the arrangement of the song is "empty", it feels like all the fun and beautiful things she describes during the song are futile or false. A vacuum.

!Lawi! 26th April 2019 11:15 PM

I even think this applies to the whole beginning of the album. It is a joke in itself: the album is called Party Queen and there are literally three upbeat songs. They are like the 'stupid drunk' part of the album, just blurting out messages that end up being meaningless when compared to the loneliness of the rest of the album.

It's far from perfect but I love the roughness and sadness of party queen, it works so well in contrast with the smoothness and 'perfectness' of Love songs just before, these two albums together are by far my favourite moment in Ayu's discography.

tokyoxjapanxfan 27th April 2019 11:37 AM

I actually love the title track, the rest of the album is where it tends to fall flat for me. Hbya is... not one of my favorite songs, let’s put it that way lol.

I actually -love- the CDL 2011-12 rip that we got. I love the beginning. And it comes off as way more playful than the studio version.

I will admit that the album has warmed up on me since release. But that era is where I feel like her fans really trickled away, so it has a black cloud over it for me.


Edit: I just watched the return road pv for the first time since the release—that is still a terrible video. Like.. I can’t lol. I also never watched the other videos from this album more than once either. I wonder if that’s why this album sits so low for me... the visuals are not to my liking.

!Lawi! 27th April 2019 11:44 AM

HBYA is probably her second most boring ballad after the absolute void that untitled episode two was.

Completely agree about the CDL version of PQ, it's probably what made me like it so much.

There are a lot of songs I really enjoy on the album though, Tell me why is quite different for Ayu's standard, I love Letter and I am forever grateful for ESM I and the next LOVE. They're not the best tracks ever but they feel so fresh and unique in her discography!


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