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Just the beginning -20- TOUR 2017 ~IV: Second chapter~
https://i.imgur.com/YXXgGux.png "The stage, this is where I live." We have no doubt what ayumi hamasaki says, 19 years she has been pursuing ultimate entertainment and kept improving. "Just the beginning -20-" tour, the advanced step to her 20th anniversary year, runs 60 concerts!! It's her first attempt and shows begin to be held at hall venues in Japan, starting with Arena venue. We follow the track of the masterpieces since her debut by changing scale which makes her shows multifariously. This tour must be going to become something special and the long awaited "special edition" tour for her fans. What is her intension of starting "Just the beginning", is this countdown to her 20th anniversary or... FIRST CHAPTER: <Arena Performance> May 2017 - July 2017 ✓ 01. 2017.05.13 - Kanagawa: Yokohama Arena ✓ 02. 2017.05.14 - Kanagawa: Yokohama Arena ✓ 03. 2017.06.17 - Tokyo: Yoyogi National Gymnasium ✓ 04. 2017.06.18 - Tokyo: Yoyogi National Gymnasium ✓ 05. 2017.06.28 - Aichi: NGK Hall ✓ 06. 2017.06.29 - Aichi: NGK Hall ✓ 07. 2017.07.15 - Osaka: Osakajo Hall ✓ 08. 2017.07.16 - Osaka: Osakajo Hall ✓ 09. 2017.07.17 - Osaka: Osakajo Hall SECOND CHAPTER ~sacrifice~ <Hall Performance> September 2017 - November 2017 ✓ 10. 2017.09.06 - Kanagawa: Pacifico Yokohama Great Hall ✓ 11. 2017.09.07 - Kanagawa: Pacifico Yokohama Great Hall 12. 2017.09.11 - Fukuoka: Fukuoka Sun Palace Hall 13. 2017.09.12 - Fukuoka: Fukuoka Sun Palace Hall 14. 2017.09.16 - Tokushima: Naruto City Cultural Center 15. 2017.09.18 - Kochi: Kochi Prefectural Cultural Hall 16. 2017.09.28 - Shizuoka: Shizuoka City Cultural Hall 17. 2017.09.29 - Shizuoka: Shizuoka City Cultural Hall 18. 2017.10.04 - Oita: Oita Iichiko Grand Theater 19. 2017.10.05 - Kumamoto: Kumamoto Prefectural Theater 20. 2017.10.11 - Fukui: Phoenix Plaza 21. 2017.10.12 - Ishikawa: Honda No Mori Hall 22. 2017.10.17 - Mie: Mie Prefectural Culture Hall 23. 2017.10.18 - Gifu: Nagaragawa International Conference Hall 24. 2017.10.22 - Hyogo: Kobe International Hall 25. 2017.10.23 - Hiroshima: Hiroshima Cultural Academy HBG Hall 26. 2017.10.27 - Saitama: Omiya Sonic City 27. 2017.11.02 - Ehime: Matsuyama City Hall 28. 2017.11.10 - Osaka: Festival hall 29. 2017.11.10 - Osaka: Festival hall 30. 2017.11.17 - Miyagi: Tokyo Electron Hall 31. 2017.11.21 - Chiba: Ichikawa City Cultural Center 32. 2017.11.22 - Yamanashi: Collany Cultural Hall 33. 2017.11.28 - Yamaguchi: Shunan City Cultural Center THIRD CHAPTER: December 2017 - February 2018 34. 2017.12.02 - Wakayama: Wakayama Prefectural Cultural Hall 35. 2017.12.03 - Nara: Nara Centennial Hall 36. 2017.12.07 - Tochigi: Utsunomiya Bunka Kaikan 37. 2017.12.08 - Gunma: Beisia Culture Hall Gunmaken Minkaikan 38. 2017.12.14 - Niigata: Niigata Prefectural Civic Center 39. 2017.12.15 - Toyama: AUBADE HALL 40. 2017.12.20 - Nagasaki: Nagasaki Brick Hall 41. 2017.12.21 - Kagoshima: Kagoshima Cultural Hall 42. 2017.12.25 - Chiba: Ichiharashi City Hall 43. 2017.12.26 - Chiba: Ichiharashi City Hall 44. 2017.12.31 - Tokyo: Tokyo International Forum Hall A 45. 2018.01.05 - Saitama: Omiya Sonic City 46. 2018.01.06 - Ibaraki: Ibaraki Prefectural Culture Center 47. 2018.01.09 - Kyoto: ROHM Theatre Kyoto 48. 2018.01.10 - Shiga: Biwako Hall 49. 2018.01.14 - Fukushima: Koriyama City Cultural Center 50. 2018.01.15 - Miyagi: Sendai Sun Plaza Hall 51. 2018.01.21 - Hokkaido: Nitori Culture Hall 52. 2018.01.29 - Aichi: Nagoya Congress Center 53. 2018.01.30 - Aichi: Nagoya Congress Center 54. 2018.01.31 - Aichi: Nagoya Congress Center 55. 2018.02.05 - Hyōgo: Kobe International House Hall 56. 2018.02.06 - Hyōgo: Kobe International House Hall 57. 2018.02.11 - Iwate: Morioka Civic Cultural Hall 58. 2018.02.12 - Aomori: Link station Hall Aomori 59. 2018.02.19 - Okinawa: Okinawa Convention Center 60. 2018.02.20 - Okinawa: Okinawa Convention Center [Ticket price] Reserved Seating (ARENA): ₯9,400 yen (tax included) Reserved Seating (HALL): ₯8,800 yen (tax included) *Children aged over 3 years old are required tickets. Special site: http://www.ayu2017tour.com/ Official site: http://avex.jp/ayu/live/tour.php?id=1001001 ====FIRST CHAPTER: <Arena Performance>======================== -=SETLIST=- Spoiler:
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-=VIDEO=- http://ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123732 ====SECOND CHAPTER ~sacrifice~ <Hall Performance>======================== -=SETLIST=- Spoiler:
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-=AUDIO RECORDING=- Spoiler:
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Nice thread! Thank you :)
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I watched the live and I'm sorry but NO.
Ayu what are you doing? You're suffering and you continues to sing even when your voice is so tired that's so awful? Please, take a break and take care. Learn to sing with your condition, come back later. Seriously I'm aware of all of this but it was awful to hear her shout. Because of You was horrible, she was exhausted on NEVER NEVER and so on. Ballads were ok, fortunately. Aside from her vocals, the show was empty. Nothing new, always the same performances , same gestures, same songs. I was bored. There was nothing beautiful or amazing. I think it was just "ok". I'm so sad because once upon a time I loved Ayu's lives. And now... I'm just watching by curiosity and by habit. Hope the next chapter will be better than that! |
Thank you for creating this thread!
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^^I thought Because of You sounded good tbh.
Also, WARNING had a new choreography, NEVER EVER and Because of You had new stuff here and there too. My name's WOMEN had changes here and there and the second part of the bridge got changed. Ourselves was a new performances anyway. Appears was different arrangement-wise with the violin and they lifted her up. Sure, this tour isn't full of brand new things but if you look closer there are changes and some new stuff. Of course that's not sooo much but still, it just annoys me "always the same performance" when yes, she still does a whip dance for my name's WOMEN or still has the *walk, look back* during BoY but there are changes. I am not denying that overall much is still the same but she keeps adding new stuff to the performances here and there so they're not completely the same. I can already see the backlash coming, lol. |
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Just realised Lico is missing, did I missed anything?
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^She left after I think AT16 because she didn't have enough stamina iirc.
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I've watched both ourselves and WARNING from the TV Live and I've decided I prefer not to see the rest. At least not until they release the edited version. Worst vocals ever imo, she is basically struggling to finish each song. It's really sad to see her like this when she used to have amazing live tours back in the day.
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^ for sure you missed the last CDL... >.<
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Those vocals are horrible. I don't ever wanna hear her say she's ruining her health "because of music". If she would care about music, she would care about delivering live vocals that are worth to pay for. It's her damn job. Not that she ever was a great vocalist with great technique or something, but she sounded fine at least.
This really makes your ears bleed and I don't know whom she's trying to fool besides herself with this "performing for the love of music". She's performig for herself and definetely not for anyone else. If your not able to perform three days in a row without being hoars as fuck, simply don't do it. It's your job after all ffs. |
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besides the ourselves performance straight from the beginning, i have to agree with what CeReSu wrote. It hurts to admit that, i love ayus live, but i gets reallly bored and really monotonous from what i can see. If she does not include her newer songs (with new performacnes) i donot wonder that her lives bores me.
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So many negative comments, how sad for Ayu, though I kinda get how y'all feel, but vocally it was so much better than both past CDL, the setlist was nothing new, I get that some could get tired, but other people may enjoy it otherwise there would be no public at all, and most important imo, she was happy, she enjoyed being there, and I enjoyed watching her, I'm not saying that you guys have to like it, I myself hope big changes for 2nd chapter, but we should just support her and not being so negative, people say things like "she should take care of her health" and I agree but... if she didn't, and it's doing this long af tour, going to small venues where she never went before, I truly hope to be wrong, but perhaps her condition doesn't have a solution, perhaps she's trying to do what she loves to do as much as possible, if you knew you won't be abable to do something you love in a certain ammount of time, wouldn't you just throw everything away and do it till the very end as long as you can? well, that's just my opinion, I liked the show, nothing spectacular but it was good, really looking forward for 2nd chapter :)
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I'm totally agree with you. Go ayu! This year tour is a gift with the hall tour. I hope a lot people go to see her. I will love to see her but I can't, is my dream but someday. So I'm glad more people can got to the tour this years.
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Her celebratory tours always have boring setlists, so, it was to expect...
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Couldn't make it past Ourselves, the vocals are so bad.
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My beef is with the setlist not the vocals. She's obviously off pitch because of deafness. What can she do :/ god help her.
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Honestly, it's the same comments every time with live broadcasts even from years back. Most people seemed to enjoy her in the venues though which is where it's meant to be watched, so something is going on for there to be such a disconnect during these lives.
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any idea if Chapter 3 will also be Hall Tours?
im planning to go during that period >< |
ourselves was rly bad, but the rest was ok. ballads are good as always.
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This was my first Ayumi concert ever, and vocals aside, it was an amazing experience. Her concerts are meant to be felt and heard together in the arena with that huge crowd, and I don't know if a live, or this one, could capture that accurately. Not only that, but with as often as Ayu tours, I think a lot of fans in Japan(who lets be honest, that is the target audience of her concerts) really get used to the experience of going to her show every year and hearing the same songs. Perhaps if you only watch her through a screen, it gets dull, but once you experience it, it's totally different. |
I think these recordings are fine. This is the closest to what she actually sounds like live. Still stellar vocals! She did sound a bit better in Yoyogi.
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i do support her and her vocals doesnt bother me that much. im happy for her as well, im just a little bit disappointed that she celebrates her 20th aniversary with the exact same songs she sang the last couple of concerts. i hope it was really 'just the beginning' and the setlist will change during the next chapters
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Going there in person is definitely different and never a dull
moment. believe it or not, there are still japanese fans who are first timers in attending her concerts even after years of fandom. ❤️ |
^That's nice! I noticed her performances are getting lots of japanese comments on youtube lately
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I think her japanes fans like her older songs more than her current Music (with the exeption of a few new songs).
So they are happy if she performs always the older music. |
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^no, i do enjoy each and every new release. i think a one and made in japan are phenomenal albums
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^ i really like a lot of her newer material too... okay, LOVEagain, A ONE and M(A)DE IN JAPAN are somehow not really my cup of tea, but they have also songs which I listen a lot... so I'm really happy that she keeps performing WARNING, You & Me and so on... |
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TV broadcasts on the other hand get the raw unaltered sound board recordings directly from the mic and instruments; that imo is far more reliable of a measure of vocal quality than arena reports. Her voice doesn't just magically go to crap the second a camera starts rolling every single time. But lets be real, her voice was rarely actually amazing even in her heyday (go back to any tv broadcast of the cdl) except for maybe between 03-06. She also used to make much better use of backing tracks; especially during tv lives in her younger days. Honestly, I think that's a route she should consider again. Namie uses it to great effect and it's much better than just resorting to straight up lip synching. |
I just watched the live.
Man, those vocals were painful to hear. Not as bad as CDL but still pretty bad. |
I'd like her to mix in a few more 'newer' songs though. Or if she does old ones, perform them differently.
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So, I watched the whole thing...
I'm not very found of her anniversary tours and I'm also not very found of the CDLs, and this is an anniversary tour that feels like a giant CDL, so, other than the ourselves opening, meh. :P The vocals aren't very good, but after the choreographed parts it's her usual bad. I also loved pretty much every new arrangment, as usual. |
nothing special for this first chapter from her '20th anniversary'
'premium showcase feel the love 2014' better than '20th anniv' i hope there will be 'something new' (new songs list, new concept, new costume) for second chapter and 'final chapter' |
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^ can't be played in germany :/
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^that video on weibo http://weibo.com/1258508133/FenDfqGTy
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Actually, WOWOW videos can't be played outside of Japan, unfortunately... (stupid geoblocking)
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Her vocals were pretty fine in ourselves and WARNING (loved these two <3) but her voice gets tired from NEVER EVER on, like veeery tired.
My favorite performances were ourselves, WARNING, Virgin Road, talkin' 2 myself and Mirrorcle World (I'm always here for this song). I love the first part of Voyage, when she is alone on the stage, but then the dancers come up and it's meh. Overall I liked the concert, but it's not outstanding, just ok, hope it gets better in the next chapters. |
Watched the digest and I must say... meh. Virgin Road totally failed.
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Were her vocals edited on that WOWOW broadcast? Cause i didn't watch the live broadcast from a week ago, but i just watched the digest posted above and i think her vocals are nowhere near horrible like everyone says, so am i having a ear problem or is the WOWOW broadcast edited? lol Like come on she sounds hella great during Who... for example.
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Now encore
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DF_G5X5W0AAyYc1.jpg Better camera angles and I think she sounds pretty good, I can't say if they edited her vocals. |
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lol I wonder if they gonna release the CDL and the 3 chapters in a super special 8-DVD/4-BD set. |
^ New Album + CDL + TA Tour
A BEST 3 Version 1 - Chapter 1 Version 2 - Chapter 2 Version 3 - Chapter 3 Broadcast is up on jpopsuki. |
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A BEST 3+CDL A BEST 3+Tour 2017 A BEST 3+CDL+Tour 2017 Documentary 20th Anniversary Album+TA Tour (Exclusive at TA) 20th Anniversary Album (Regular+Limited Edition+GOODS) A BEST LIVE 20th Anniversary XD I need something soon please ayu |
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I really enjoyed ourselves, it was amazing! And her vocals were fine, I think. But WARNING actually made me cringe... :no But I understand her situation, so not complaining really. When Ayu performs, you can see the love coming from her, that's why her voice hurts me so much... I wished she'd take care of herself but I can't possibly even imagine what she's going through right now... :( |
This time I can't upload the concert because I won't have my PC until middle of august.
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I have watched the show broadcast yesterday already by downloading from jpopsuki.
I realized that her vocal is tired and dry. She must have been tired then. |
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Error while downloading from jpopsuki, hope someone will make it available in the forum...:luv2 |
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Yay to new color scheme plus gradient <3 Love it! Did they announced if there's gonna be new goods for each chapter?
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Yup they also marked goods that are only available during chapter one on official site, but I can΄t find it o.o (and forget to note it down ><)
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So glad to see something that's not pink lol would like they use those colors as the theme for new chapter
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Good to hear that they edited the vocals for the broadcast because ourselves with edited vocals would sound fantastic, I'd imagine.
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^I didn't hear much difference from the past broadcast
The whole thing on youtube, including encore |
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I'm watching the concert and finding its very fun! The setlist is nice all together and I don't even bother about the vocals anymore. <3 Her energy and joy are enough!
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Not sure how I feel about this show... The vocals are a bit tough to swallow.
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I've just been watching some other concerts in small halls recently and I'm just hoping ayu has put some thought into the staging. She's pretty much had the same arena stage since 2005 (apart from the few circle stages). I hope she won't just go the TA Tour route with just a screen behind and open floor. Stages in small halls can still look great. Koda Kumi in particular has great hall stages.
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^she mostly changes the catwalk and well the main stage does change too but I get it, although e.g. PSC was very different.
I can imagine she'll just do a smaller version of the recent stage. |
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Well, "AT05" was the 'perfect' live to her, I think, so things were based on that after a certain point. I think that she's mostly done variations on that because it is what works. However, she also has been going to the same kinds of places for inspiration each year so that doesn't really help either.
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Is part 3 gonna be all HALL TOURS? Any predicted idea?
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AT'09 had also a very different stage btw :D
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I really liked the years (is just the two years she's done it?) where she's had a stage that reaches all across the venue. CDL 2007 - 2008 and 2008 - 2009?
TBH after following Ayu for nearly 13 years now, much of her concerts post AT05 have become a blur especially in recent years what with CDL becoming a teaser for the upcoming year's forthcoming AT. |
^I think CDL 09-10 had that too but not sure!
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I really like the direction she took with Countdown Live 2010–2011. That rounded center stage was really nice! also Cirque de Minuit was amazing production-wise! With lots of new acts. Ayu have her ups and downs, it's normal, but I don't think she's stucked doing the same things over and over. She surelly does new stuff for the tour but she have to keep doing the classic acts that everyone will enjoy. At this point it would be utopic to expect she will do a whole concert from scratch without recycling one thing or another...
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^ Not really an unpopular opinion, everyone feels the same lol
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Most of her public won't see the CDLs considering she isn't selling DVDs and the CDL have very limited dates. In the end of the day, her concerts are planned out to be watched live and to absolute most people watching it live, the performances from the CDL reused in the tour will be new performances.
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I remember when the CDL was more for Ayu-fans and the tour would have mostly singles and popular hits and be more of a "show". I keep hoping a CDL would be the one where she'd sing songs like SAKURA, Shape of love, criminal etc. All I can is hope for another TA Limited Live Tour where she might do that. I need the AT2017 ourselves on a CD, I mean it! So brilliant! |
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She has barely started her tour and I'm already thinking how's her tour schedule next year when I'm thinking of going again I hope for something in mid/late april!
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^ I just keep wondering if she's going to have something specifically for the 20th anniversary, or just make chapter 3 that celebration. I don't want to miss out on an actual 20th anniversary tour if she has one, but I'm definitely not able to go to both.
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^ Thank you :)
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is it too late to join TeamAyu as an internationl member because I really want to go for the final leg of JTB tour
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^ so is it sure third part will be TA? because I'm not in TA and probably will be in Japan in that time and hoped to get ticket, as always, through resellers, but if it's TA then I won't be able to go :((((
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EDIT: ok I just signed up as a TeamAyu member...omg after so long of being a fan do they offer TeamAyu members a special portal to ballot for tickets? |
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Do you guys think...
that she will actually hold a live on her anniversary period. it's so strange that it doesnt coincide |
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