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koumori 23rd July 2019 10:09 AM

Ayu dating Pei?
 
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Originally Posted by ayuinh.k? (Post 3303633)
There’s a paparazzi pic on Friday magazine taken of Ayu and her backup dancer Pei holding hands (the one everyone is suspecting of dating)

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Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 3303642)
Want to see that photo

Edit: found it

http://i.imgur.com/Qwxk9Oyl.jpg

Since this is going to be discussed, here's a thread specifically for this romantic rumor. Keep it polite to all involved parties and if you're not interested in Ayu's love life, don't read the thread :D

Andrenekoi 23rd July 2019 10:13 AM

What really bothers me is how fast some people around here jumps in to question her mental health over the most trivial stuff.

Chibi-Chan 23rd July 2019 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by indigochild (Post 3303928)
You'll lose "all respect for her" because of who she chooses to bang in the bedroom? Imagine typing this out and actually being serious about it. How embarrassing!

Imagine excusing sexual abuse of teenagers who aren't mature enough to enter sexual relationships with adults and who are, on top of that, dependent on the adult in every aspect when it comes to their future career and their finances. Imagine excusing an adult fucking a teen when they should be mentoring the teen instead.
Imagine typing so much predatory shit out and actually pretending it's just about two adults having sex. Just wow

rikku1994 23rd July 2019 12:37 PM

How old is he? If he is of legal age then I do not see what the problem is. Maybe if some ppl would judge her and her relationships a lot less, then maybe y'all would be as happy as Ayu too.

And I honestly don't think age is huge deal based on my experience... Swear to God, y'all ppl sometimes act as if this is a new thing... It's 2019 and not 1957. If Ayu was a man then I have feeling this won't be much of big deal for a lot of y'all. Let her do whatever (or whomever lol jk) she wants.

As for me, I'm just waiting for new music. Lol.

A-TeensFan 23rd July 2019 01:24 PM

Go Ayu! Excuse her for having a personal life people.

melissalove 23rd July 2019 02:25 PM

Now I’m confused on how old this guy is. :shrug :shrug

Earth_maiden 23rd July 2019 02:28 PM

One of my extended family members is in a relationship with a huge age gap. They are 25 and their partner is 53. They've been together for a long time and the whole family approves of this relationship. I guess because of that I see no issue with Ayu dating someone in their 20s. We don't know the circumstances, I just hope it is all above board and doesn't turn into a fiasco like the whole Maro saga. I just want her to be happy in the end.

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Originally Posted by rikku1994 (Post 3303966)

As for me, I'm just waiting for new music. Lol.

This is the real question. When will she release something new?! :D

Corvina 23rd July 2019 02:29 PM

He's 20, but according to the rumours they started dating when he was 19, which is legally underage in Japan.

koumori 23rd July 2019 04:17 PM

The age of consent for sex in Japan is 13, and for adults, it is 18. This means two people who are 13 or over can have sex with no legal repercussions, but anyone over 18 should also have a partner of 18 or over. The legal age for drinking is 20.
I'm just going to drop this in here if we're going to be discussing consent laws as a part of this. Given his young age when he joined the dance troupe, it is relevant.

ExodusUK 23rd July 2019 04:44 PM

Looking forward to the new release(s) that must coincide with this new coupling.

I wish Ayu would get some good girlfriends that can set up Ayu with a man with his own success and not someone in Ayu's pocket already.

Uknow! 23rd July 2019 04:54 PM

And who said that they are dating? And who said that they are monogamous? Maybe they are only having fun and that's all, we can't assume anything.

ExodusUK 23rd July 2019 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Uknow! (Post 3303982)
And who said that they are dating? And who said that they are monogamous? Maybe they are only having fun and that's all, we can't assume anything.

This too. Also as a professional dancer, there's 90% chance he's gay anyway.

rikku1994 23rd July 2019 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ExodusUK (Post 3303983)
This too. Also as a professional dancer, there's 90% chance he's gay anyway.

Now imagine if Pei and Lee are hooking up. My gay fantasies would be fulfilled

YUKARI 23rd July 2019 05:27 PM

I'm glad she has a boyfriend. Hopefully, they'll stick together for a long time.

surrealA 23rd July 2019 05:53 PM

LOVE again - the return - ??

hud 23rd July 2019 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ExodusUK (Post 3303979)
Looking forward to the new release(s) that must coincide with this new coupling.

I wish Ayu would get some good girlfriends that can set up Ayu with a man with his own success and not someone in Ayu's pocket already.

all of this.

maxikot 23rd July 2019 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rikku1994 (Post 3303986)
Now imagine if Pei and Lee are hooking up. My gay fantasies would be fulfilled

Offtopic - but I'm loving it :roflmao

kaled kalil 23rd July 2019 06:12 PM

The most problematic thing here is his work ethic, or lack of lol. Less than two years into work and you're already dating the boss? I don't think he's gonna have much a career afterwards. The last time we saw Maro he was eating grass, as far as we know.

And yes, it's getting the media's attention. https://www.cyzo.com/2019/07/post_210665_entry.html
https://news.merumo.ne.jp/article/genre/8845723
https://www.excite.co.jp/news/article/Real_Live_47516/

Aderianu 23rd July 2019 08:05 PM

Ayu is a real human and she need someone near her. To date with someone from her team is the most easy way. I don't think it's something serious, I was sure ayu's dating KO before.

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Originally Posted by kaled kalil (Post 3303993)
Less than two years into work and you're already dating the boss?

How much you need to work to date with boss? %)

Deep snow 23rd July 2019 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by surrealA (Post 3303989)
LOVE again - the return - ??

"LOVE, yet again"

Lilly 23rd July 2019 09:10 PM

I am still waiting for Return road (A)gain

Evan Odinson 23rd July 2019 11:08 PM

I feel like "LOVE, once again" or "LOVE, one more time" sound way better but still the same feeling lol

Chris85 24th July 2019 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 3303996)
, I was sure ayu's dating KO before.

So, they broke up and he officially "failed the audition" and left?

Aderianu 24th July 2019 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris85 (Post 3304015)
So, they broke up and he officially "failed the audition" and left?

Who knows. I was really surprised when he left after new audition, he's talented maybe more than someone who stayed

Chris85 24th July 2019 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 3304025)
Who knows. I was really surprised when he left after new audition, he's talented maybe more than someone who stayed

Yes, it seemed very odd.

tokyoxjapanxfan 24th July 2019 11:59 AM

I met KO at a gay bar. He was all over a male friend. Not saying he’s one or the other, but just mentioning it lol.

koumori 24th July 2019 01:16 PM

Ayu seems really close to her troupe. So close that they organised a book of nude art of themselves for her back in the day :laugh Their relationship seems very bubbled from what we would consider normal, probably because they spend so much time together both professionally and personally. Flirting, having fun, and being comfortable in various intimate scenarios seem normalised.

So, with that said, it's hard to know what is normal for Ayu and what is more romantic :shrug I have no idea about the dynamics going on between her employees and herself, or if she really sees them as employees anymore (and that's another subject). So I find it hard to put a ton of stock into rumours before she confirms them herself.

I think it was a bad move to hold hands with Pei in public, because of her fame. That sounds unfair to her but it's the truth. Whatever their relationship, they will now be under a lot of scrutiny, and she hasn't decided to take control of the narrative yet through a blog post or news statement. It is what it is.

Chris85 24th July 2019 01:29 PM

Haters must be pleased. They've been saying for years that she's making headlines not because of her music, but because of her messy private life.
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Originally Posted by tokyoxjapanxfan (Post 3304041)
I met KO at a gay bar. He was all over a male friend. Not saying he’s one or the other, but just mentioning it lol.

Did you talk or observe?

tokyoxjapanxfan 24th July 2019 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris85 (Post 3304055)
Haters must be pleased. They've been saying for years that she's making headlines not because of her music, but because of her messy private life.

Did you talk or observe?

I said hi, as he was talking to my friend lol

JinHamasaki 24th July 2019 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Koumori (Post 3304054)


I think it was a bad move to hold hands with Pei in public, because of her fame. That sounds unfair to her but it's the truth. Whatever their relationship, they will now be under a lot of scrutiny, and she hasn't decided to take control of the narrative yet through a blog post or news statement. It is what it is.

Zooming in on her super-reflective glasses, I don't see reflections of paparazzi or other camera people. It looks like she is looking at another building? I wonder if this is taken from someone's personal security camera.

koumori 24th July 2019 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JinHamasaki (Post 3304064)
Zooming in on her super-reflective glasses, I don't see reflections of paparazzi or other camera people. It looks like she is looking at another building? I wonder if this is taken from someone's personal security camera.

It's more likely a high zoom lense. Paparazzi prefer them these days.

owlflight 26th July 2019 04:32 AM

It looks like she is holding his wrist and not really his hand. Could be wrong though.

truehappiness 27th July 2019 07:32 PM

Don't want her to date Pei.

orbitalaspect 31st July 2019 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibi-Chan (Post 3303957)
Imagine excusing sexual abuse of teenagers who aren't mature enough to enter sexual relationships with adults and who are, on top of that, dependent on the adult in every aspect when it comes to their future career and their finances. Imagine excusing an adult fucking a teen when they should be mentoring the teen instead.
Imagine typing so much predatory shit out and actually pretending it's just about two adults having sex. Just wow

I have to agree here. He's an up-and-comer dating the biggest selling solo artist in Japanese history. Ayu is clearly in a position of power here, and I don't think this relationship is appropriate as long as he continues to work for her. I don't have any reservations about special treatment, but I do when it comes to the image fans and the media have of someone like Pei dating someone so high-profile. It smears their character, making them out to be a gold digger or a user.

He's waaay too young to be in this relationship. And Ayu should know better. And you guys should all know better too. It's no less risky or predatory when a woman dates a male subordinate than when a man dates a female subordinate. His entire career could be ruined by how Ayu handles things if they go sour. And I think it's clear, based on Ayu's two marriages, that she doesn't handle breakups and divorces very well at all.

Come on, Ayu, get out and meet someone with more financial and career independence. There are businessmen and investors and socialites and all sorts of other people with wealth and status all over that would be on more equal footing. Dating your employee is just ridiculous for someone in your position.

surrealA 1st August 2019 12:50 AM

what if hes gay and Ayu is just being close to him like she do with Timmy :rolleyes

we wouldnt know until she confirms it

chocopockymaster 1st August 2019 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by surrealA (Post 3304471)
what if hes gay and Ayu is just being close to him like she do with Timmy :rolleyes

we wouldnt know until she confirms it

I don’t remember ever hearing rumors of her dating Timmy, do you? This has been floating around for a while now and I have to agree, this age/power dynamic is NOT a good look for her.

FoxyPinkGirl 1st August 2019 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 3303996)
Ayu is a real human and she need someone near her. To date with someone from her team is the most easy way. I don't think it's something serious, I was sure ayu's dating KO before.


How much you need to work to date with boss? %)

It’s inappropriate. Especially if she’s his boss and on her payroll. That’s a universal understanding no matter what country you’re from on the planet. It’s not okay. Plus she’s setting a bad example to her subordinates on her team (dancers, managers, band mates, etc) and at Avex. I don’t think her management nor the label steps in regarding her love life because she’s.....not as high of a ticket anymore in that it wouldn’t make that much of a difference to her career. Verses if it were like back in the late ‘90s to early ‘00s.

Chris85 1st August 2019 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by chocopockymaster (Post 3304488)
I don’t remember ever hearing rumors of her dating Timmy, do you? This has been floating around for a while now and I have to agree, this age/power dynamic is NOT a good look for her.

There were rumors about Timmy as well. They were photographed together.

wednesday 1st August 2019 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 3303996)
Ayu is a real human and she need someone near her. To date with someone from her team is the most easy way. I don't think it's something serious, I was sure ayu's dating KO before.


How much you need to work to date with boss? %)

Five years, I believe :yes

I’m sorry, I couldn’t resist :laugh

PinkShinigami 2nd August 2019 07:57 AM

When I was 20, I had moved to another country, I was the supervisor in a clothing store and I was trying to become pregnant. I was an adult person making adult decisions. At 23, I'm now a mother and have bought my first house.

I don't agree at all to the "teen" and "power" comments. He's a big boy and he can make his own decisions.

As for the "dating the boss" thing... Well, we see American actors dating their co-stars all the time, so why shouldn't that happen in music? I don't know how much ayu is the boss of them all - I would believe she's more just part of the team. Also, how many other people do ayu actually meet, other than those she's the boss of? It would be sad if she should let a potential romance down just because they're working together - especially when it's probably limited how much time she spends with people who are not her coworkers. Also, it would be great for her to have someone she could actually "live in" with. If she finds someone outside her team, they'd probably not see each other very often.

And it it's dangerous for his career.. Well, it's his own choice.

Chris85 2nd August 2019 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PinkShinigami (Post 3304573)
When I was 20, I had moved to another country, I was the supervisor in a clothing store and I was trying to become pregnant. I was an adult person making adult decisions. At 23, I'm now a mother and have bought my first house.

I don't agree at all to the "teen" and "power" comments. He's a big boy and he can make his own decisions.

People like you are an exception, not a rule.
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Originally Posted by PinkShinigami (Post 3304573)
As for the "dating the boss" thing... Well, we see American actors dating their co-stars all the time, so why shouldn't that happen in music?

Co-star isn't a boss.
Regardless, ayu can do whatever she wants. It's her choice and her consequences.

melissalove 3rd August 2019 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chocopockymaster (Post 3304488)
I don’t remember ever hearing rumors of her dating Timmy, do you? This has been floating around for a while now and I have to agree, this age/power dynamic is NOT a good look for her.

Hmmmm.... the impossible love, the hiding, the secrecy, the public not understanding. It sounds all so very interesting. It makes for a good album and interesting lyrics. Isn’t this ultimately what the public wants.

wednesday 6th August 2019 07:21 PM

I mean, at the end of the day if it’s legal, there isn’t much to say. We can all push our own bias, but it’s not gonna change much. I see both sides arguments and both have their merits. The only thing I can hope is that Ayu has a good head on her shoulders and will successfully navigate life with the decisions she’s made.

Aderianu 7th August 2019 09:50 AM

The fact that ayu didn't say anything about it at her TA blog may means that it's just rumors.

PinkShinigami 7th August 2019 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris85 (Post 3304589)
People like you are an exception, not a rule.

Maybe he's an exception too? But even if I'm very mature of my age, I still believe the average 20-year-old is old enough to decide who they are dating.

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Originally Posted by Chris85 (Post 3304589)
Co-star isn't a boss.

I know... But as I mentioned - how much of a "boss" is she really? Of course, she is the top of the cake, but she still works with them side by side. Unless it's a "come in to my office tonight and I'll give you a raise", I don't see the problem lol.

I guess I just think the "don't date your boss" thing is old school. People should basically date whoever they want, as long as it's legal and they're not hurting anyone.

Andrenekoi 7th August 2019 10:10 PM

^Yeap. There will be 65 years old smart people entering bad relationships even being experienced. There will be young people entering healthy relationships even with of their lack of experience and maturity. There's no one size fits all on this kind of stuff.

A younger person can even be the abuse part of the relationship with an older person.

ayu_ready? 11th August 2019 12:25 PM

I don't know, I think I'm kinda speechless about her relationships and choices after that LA model...

waterballoon 12th August 2019 04:11 PM

this is why her dancers should be gay like the good ol gang with Gomi and Shu-ya

wednesday 12th August 2019 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 3305171)
this is why her dancers should be gay like the good ol gang with Gomi and Shu-ya

I feel like its been 100 years since I have seen a post from you! I still remember reading a post where you explained your username lol

melissalove 12th August 2019 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 3305171)
this is why her dancers should be gay like the good ol gang with Gomi and Shu-ya

Shuya's gay??

DonkeyKongRemix 12th August 2019 10:33 PM

Maybe they're just having fun together but aren't really serious...?

Andrenekoi 12th August 2019 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by melissalove (Post 3305190)
Shuya's gay??

Every ayu male dancer is gay.

Until she dates them and they become straight porn stars.

Evan Odinson 13th August 2019 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3305193)
Every ayu male dancer is gay.

Until she dates them and they become straight porn stars.

Ugh, her power

waterballoon 13th August 2019 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3305193)
Every ayu male dancer is gay.

Until she dates them and they become straight porn stars.

Excuse me, don’t you mean, “straight for pay”?
Guys Ayu is a certified MILF and she has grown up like us. She can date whomever she wants, at least we are guaranteed a mini album soon!

Chris85 13th August 2019 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 3305205)
at least we are guaranteed a mini album soon!

You mean another playlist?
"Netflix & chill selection".

aliceshields 13th August 2019 05:38 AM

May be interlude playlist :no

waterballoon 13th August 2019 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wednesday (Post 3305182)
I feel like its been 100 years since I have seen a post from you! I still remember reading a post where you explained your username lol

omg thank you!! I didn't log in anymore because there wasn't anything interesting in Ayu's life anymore, much less new music, but I'm back now for the book scandal and MILF-boi scandal.

emi♡ 13th August 2019 11:37 PM

ahh but when do we get to see her with a woman. Take the plunge babe.


That guy has nice hair though. Seems he has nice...a lot of things looool

Faiza 13th August 2019 11:53 PM

^ emiiiii! Lots of old faces popping up

primavera♥ 14th August 2019 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by emi♡ (Post 3305243)
ahh but when do we get to see her with a woman. Take the plunge babe.


That guy has nice hair though. Seems he has nice...a lot of things looool

But seriously though :o

emi♡ 14th August 2019 12:25 AM

aww faiza I see you all the time....I just never comment or like anything cause im lazy ;__; <3

summertime ayu drama

Honestly, I never really imagined her settling with one person for 50 million years. But you never know. Besides, who doesn't like young hot guys? hahaha

bluegie 14th August 2019 12:35 PM

I gotta post here after seeing emi and waterballoon posting here haha.

Not really interested in ayu's new bf or that book scandal (though it is interesting to read that thread :P).

_dandy_ 19th August 2019 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 3305205)
Guys Ayu is a certified MILF

...except that the "M" in "MILF" stands for "mother". Unless there's some kid we don't know about, by definition she's not a MILF. CERTIFICATE REVOKED! :-)

(yes, I'm pedantic in this way) :-p

FoxyPinkGirl 20th August 2019 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PinkShinigami (Post 3304887)

I guess I just think the "don't date your boss" thing is old school. People should basically date whoever they want, as long as it's legal and they're not hurting anyone.

It’s not old school. It’s common sense, especially in the western world. It’s frowned upon for bosses to date subordinates because: 1.) they’re paying them 2). It’s a conflict of interest 3). It looks bad to other employees because it appears the boss is playing favorites when they actually are. Whether it’s intentional or not 4). Someone ALWAYS gets hurt. Whether it’s the boss, that employee they’re dating, another employee(s), boss/employee’s family, etc. 5). It’s bad for business. Not only is the boss and employee distracted, but it hurts both of their job performances and leads to bad business.
Also a 20 year old here state side is seen as immature to be married and have children because typically they are. I won’t even get into it all since this is all waaay off topic. Yes Ayu can do whatever she wants and I’m totally cool with that. I don’t even care if she dates an employee. I however wanted to point that misconception out about dating bosses. I know from personal experience

pedronekoi 20th August 2019 01:58 PM

When you all say Ayu is the BOSS it sounds like she works in an old traditional conservative company dealing with paperwork and boring stuff everyday lol Is not like she is the owner of a company and he's the intern. People do date in the work environment all the time and, we've seen singers dating theirs dancers/staff all the time. They spend more time with their crew/co-workers than with "regular people" so it happens. What's the big deal? Just get over the age thing, if you guys didn't noticed we're in 2019! Hope she enjoys her vacation!

relmy 20th August 2019 02:37 PM

If anything she's more of the boss than in a traditional company, where there's more mitigating factors at play. You piss off your girlfriend who is the star of the show and you're a dancer? Much easier for you to be out of a job.

FeelDbeat 20th August 2019 06:23 PM

Wow! i haven't been keeping up with Ayu's news for a while
I thought she was still married and tbh i don't care much about her personal relationships and just knowing that she's happy is enough for me and i hope this guy is mature enough and can handle the pressure this relationship with Ayu might bring his way.

Calico 21st August 2019 02:17 AM

Lol now I feel like I have to make an appearance.

Also cool with judging the fuck out of 40yo adults, male or female, dating a 20yo. Gross. Somehow I'm not surprised, though.

thesweetseason 22nd August 2019 11:17 PM

Why y'all pretending like you wouldn't date Ayu if you were in the same situation.

Please marry me, girl.

~*Mabushii*~ 23rd August 2019 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by thesweetseason (Post 3305679)
Why y'all pretending like you wouldn't date Ayu if you were in the same situation.

Please marry me, girl.

Why would you want a marriage that would maybe last a year? :dead2

xLuna&1LOVE 23rd August 2019 08:13 AM

Hahaha oh snap

thesweetseason 23rd August 2019 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ~*Mabushii*~ (Post 3305681)
Why would you want a marriage that would maybe last a year? :dead2

It'd be longer than my first marriage. :roflmao:

Didz-19 24th August 2019 12:19 PM

Who's Pei????

Didz-19 24th August 2019 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Deep snow (Post 3304000)
"LOVE, yet again"

LOVE again...hope this will forever or I'm gonna release a new album like Party Queen.

Lilly 26th August 2019 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Didz-19 (Post 3305741)
LOVE again...hope this will forever or I'm gonna release a new album like Party Queen.

Party Queen is my favorite album, so I hope she breaks up already and give me Party Queen 2- I am still partying, bitches

ストロボ・EdGE 27th August 2019 04:36 AM

Emiko and Waterballoon whaaaaat. Is it 2010?? Heyyyy

I don’t know what to think about her dating a 20yo guy, but also never cared who she lets in her vagina, you know?? Her public imagine is burned to a crisp, more than the teepee in Midsommar, so maybe she has no fucks left to give.

Chris85 27th August 2019 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ~*Mabushii*~ (Post 3305681)
Why would you want a marriage that would maybe last a year? :dead2

Best comment.


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