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akatsuki 2nd January 2004 06:50 AM

Ayumi smoking?
 
I have a question.. does Ayu smoke? I never saw her smoking or anything, but i never say "making of" or in backstage.. does anyone ever saw her smoking?

rainbow_momiji™ 2nd January 2004 06:51 AM

i dont think she smokes, but there was a picture lookin like she did, even if she smokes i dont mind its her life!

akatsuki 2nd January 2004 06:58 AM

oky, i see. Can anyone upload this picture please? i never saw it 0_o

jerms 2nd January 2004 07:37 AM

:laugh i do recall a photo shoot where ayumi was trying to look like a badass..and held a cigarette

akatsuki 2nd January 2004 07:37 AM

oky, thanks Mariko ^^ And about the fact that's it's her own life, you seems think that i disagree with you lol i never talked as if i disagree~ i dont juge her i jsut want to know.

Kaiousei 2nd January 2004 08:56 AM

i wouldnt worry about it too much, although im sad at the information, she probably smokes very little

EDIT: regarding Mariko's link: after looking at the pictures nick provided and watching the video, I really dont think that she is smoking in there, she was coughing and had her hand near her mouth. and the claim that the guy handed her a cigarette is probably not true, because a few seconds before the "handoff" of the cigarette, he was clapping with nothing in his hands. and it didnt look like he grabed anything within the short amount of time before ayu passed in front of him. the pictures after just show her hands near her mouth, and her thumb was probably mistaken for a cigarette. i dont wanna make a too big of a deal out of this, but i just wanted to clarify the subject of ayu's "smoking"

Yvette 3rd January 2004 12:13 AM

It looks like gum or something because when it goes in her mouth, you can see she seems to bite down on it- Her head moves down. I don't know.. :think

akatsuki 3rd January 2004 12:19 AM

thank you all of you for making this situation clearer.. it seems that there's a kind of tension here lol please dont get angry if she does smoke.. however, a singer must take care of her-his voice so she shouldn't smoke, in the more probably case.

Yvette 3rd January 2004 12:40 AM

I wouldn't really like Ayu smoking, because she's still very young, and smoking of course is bad for your health- she has a great voice to take care of. But if she does smoke, it's part of her personal life, and we as fans should still appreciate her for the great artist she is no matter what. This is a good topic, tho as long as people don't start arguing ^^;

Yvette 3rd January 2004 12:55 AM

lol I was kind of just aiming towards her smoking, not any nude photobook. O_o; :laugh But I agree, I definately wouldn't want to see that. It would just change a lot of my views on her. (Not trying to be funny here!) I believe Ayu doesn't have to go that far, and I don't think she would. That could probably put her career at risk. I think she's sure of what she can and can't do. But going offtopic here ^^; I don't think Ayu smokes. She has to take care of herself, and if she does smoke, she's probably not puffing frequently like a chimney or something. A lot of people/artists/whoever smoke :shrug

jerms 3rd January 2004 01:13 AM

-_- honestly, i could give a flying rats ass if she did or didnt, but that lil real me gif there, that wasn't a smoke. haha she wasnt even holding it right to put in her mouth. and on the real me set? come on now.

and mariko, do you like ayumi because of her music or because she's an "innocent good person"?

akatsuki 3rd January 2004 02:37 AM

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Originally posted by Mariko
As a person, I like her "innocent good quality", which I'll reword to one word: morality.
I agree with all you last post, mariko, but with this sentence in particulary. I think that she (ayu) MUST be very moral because so much people look at her and, as i know a lot of girls imit her for clothing and all.. so she need to keep on morality. If she doesnt, she will lost a lot of fans (me!!)

//hikari 3rd January 2004 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jerms
-_- honestly, i could give a flying rats ass if she did or didnt, but that lil real me gif there, that wasn't a smoke. haha she wasnt even holding it right to put in her mouth. and on the real me set? come on now.

and mariko, do you like ayumi because of her music or because she's an "innocent good person"?

I agree with you .. it frankly doesn't matter if she does or doesn't ... health risks are present if she does, but it's her life ... if she smokes it's kept in her private life ... not in her public life .. to which we all know.

as for this making of gif ... she was coughing because she couldn't breathe .. I have the video ... it's easy to see. So she's not smoking in this clip.

I think someone said something about the dude in the yellow passing a cigarette ... puh-lease ... he's walking away from her and turning his head away from her ... is he going to do a sneaky drug deal with her and he's scouting for cops by looking around first? lol >_< .... that was random o.O

hanabiwings 3rd January 2004 03:24 AM

I remember seeing a picture of her on the second disc of the LOVEppears album. She was holding something in her hand that looked definitely like a cigarette to me. Her mannerism, too, yelled HOLDING A CIGARETTE to me. But, on further review and watching A STORY OF VIDEO CLIPS (part of the Hamasaki Ayumi PV collection), it was actually just a metal butterfly clip that she was using as a prop. How strange! But I was glad to see that she wasn't smoking. I doubt ayu smokes because I've never seen her light up behind the scenes, even when others are. ^^ But, it's just my opinion. I wouldn't be shocked if she did.

Mariko, I admire your viewpoint. ^^

Aldonia 5th January 2004 05:34 PM

Hmm.. I doubt she does, and even if she does, who cares? She's a person, she can do whatever she wants..

Smoking is a health risk, definitely, especially for a singer, like her. Therefore, I really don't think she does. There've been other rumors about her before that were so crazy and out there that turned out to be false, and I bet this is gonna turn out to be one of them.

Sure, it LOOKS questionable, but it doesn't mean that the statement is actually true. People twist things out of proportion, many times celebrities get stuck in a bunch of tabloid-esque situations, or find themselves in some scandal, only for the public to find out it was just some stupid story. Anyway, in the clip it looks like.. gum or something. *squints* It's so fast, but it doesn't look like a cig or anything.

We should give Ayu the benefit of the doubt. :)

maiyoya 9th October 2004 12:07 PM

does anyone has Ayu's smoking pix???

addicted 9th October 2004 04:46 PM

YES!!!
She Does.

tinyppl 9th October 2004 05:03 PM

It's bad for her health and her voice that's all I'd ever mind. But even though it's unhealthy, so many people are still doing it.

ShinoKawai 9th October 2004 06:43 PM

Two pics from making of real me
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Me-14-13-5.jpg
in the right hand she has a cigarette
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...e-14-15-8b.jpg
here it puts it in mouth

Lorelei 9th October 2004 06:47 PM

that's a shame....

*hearT_Place* 9th October 2004 06:47 PM

yikes. :teek I hope not, because smoking's sooooooo bad for your voice.

Piccolo 9th October 2004 06:47 PM

That is the blurriest picture I've ever seen. Are you sure that is even Ayumi? Anyone have a clearer picture?

Bishoujo Ayumi 10th October 2004 12:01 AM

It looks like she's eating something..not smoking

And that doesn't look like ayu...but it probably is because the other "androids" in that video didn't have open face costumes

norain 10th October 2004 12:37 AM

you know she does alot of gum commericals...and she could be eating one!

yys113 10th October 2004 02:23 AM

It does look like a cigarette but the way she holds it doesn't look right though. People who say they don't care if she smoke are quite "fake" IMO, I don't know but I don't really like to see her smoking because it's the dumbest thing to do beside suicide. How about someone now say Ayu do drugs and here comes these "rational" fans who say "oh it's her personal life I don't give a damn!", that's just doesn't make sense if you love her so much. What I would say is I do care if she smoke but I can't do anything about it. Yes I care! I hope she stop if she did smoke.

Pharaoh 10th October 2004 02:30 AM

It's her finger.

norain 10th October 2004 05:11 AM

lol it can't be her finger

y2687 10th October 2004 05:12 AM

look at the latest tabloids pictures. she's smoking.

Ibitsu Kokoro 10th October 2004 05:21 AM

ayu smokes. big deal.

gakkun 10th October 2004 05:42 AM

^ it is a big deal if she sings. Plus it's bad for her health. Would you really not care if Ayu died 20 years early??

y2687 10th October 2004 05:46 AM

her life. her decisions.

tl1029530921 10th October 2004 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gakkun
^ it is a big deal if she sings. Plus it's bad for her health. Would you really not care if Ayu died 20 years early??

if she did..it would really be her own fault... :eyebrow

Kazuko 10th October 2004 08:10 AM

i would cry if she died all because of smoking.... that's really a waste... but yeah... i guess like some ppl say... it's her life..

ohsixthirty 10th October 2004 08:59 AM

Blah...why does it matter if she smokes? Sure it's bad for her health and voice, but a lot of things are! I mean...A LOT of things are bad for you and it's not like smoking is just going to cause her to fall over dead in 10 years. She lives her own life, just like we live all of ours and just because she is a celebrity doesn't mean we can all sit around and grumble and hold her to this god-like standard that no one can live up to. I love Ayumi and all, but she's not some sort of Heaven-Sent Perfect Goddess who can do no wrong. She's human.

Pharaoh 10th October 2004 04:05 PM

It's her finger.
Here a small video.
http://pharaoh.uw.hu/nosmoke.avi

CyberSpaceQueen 10th October 2004 09:46 PM

hmm, I think it' her problem if she is smoking or not.
She surely knows that it isn't good fer her health.
If it is really so, it would be soo a shame.:(

norain 10th October 2004 11:50 PM

well from the proof we have the tabloids aren't real, they could dress someone up just like her and have a cigerette in her hand...We know chinese tabloids aren't alway right, and plus she was drunk so she does stupid stuff when she is drunk

maiyoya 11th October 2004 08:43 AM

does anyone have Ayu's smoking-pix???

savage 11th October 2004 08:53 AM

on a diff forum i read that ayu smokes indeed, some of her fans there where really going mad because she did that and even started to compare her with britney spears >.< anyways, imho she can do whatever she wanna do, if she smokes that's really ok with me, i'm not going to like her less because of that... even better, i'm going to like her even more because then she is showing that she is human :D

chocosaki 11th October 2004 09:15 AM

I heard smoking's actually pretty popular in Japan, sadly...

ruixiong89 11th October 2004 12:21 PM

Erm ... people, well, I don't know. I believe that yar, it's Ayumi's choice. But I do feel that she doesn't smoke, it's a gut feel, because yar, she's singer and I'm sure Avex would not allow their singers to smoke. It's for their interest.

Regarding the other incident about Ayu smoking, well, I suppose she was too drunk, hence she just picked the cigarette up. But I don't know, if you want to say that smoking has resulted in her voice getting more and more rough and worse ... well, I seriously don't think so ...

maiyoya 11th October 2004 12:26 PM

um...
finally, does anyone have Ayu's smoking pix???

Chrono 11th October 2004 01:08 PM

^ try looking in this very same thread

what's the big deal anyways... oh my god! she smokes! like millions of other people... sigh

looking for excuses what might have been wrong in all those pictures.

face it. ayumi goes to gay bars, gets drunk and smokes, and wears caps with chip chip mother****er on them.

silentscreamer 11th October 2004 01:17 PM

yeah i'm pretty sure she smokes

recall the infamous apple daily article with pics ...she was smoking at the bar i think

ruixiong89 11th October 2004 01:21 PM

Yar, I was refering to that picture. Hehe, but yar, I agree that Ayu makes her own decisions about her life. As much as we would like to see her not smoking, well, if she decides to do so (which is actually still under speculation on whether she REALLY smokes), I mean even though we really hope she changes, I think there's really nothing we can do about it.

But I mean yar, it might be quite disappointing for some of us, but I believe that Ayu knows what's best for herself too. She might be trying to quit, who knows. Or maybe she doesn't even smoke at all? Well, anyway, just try to take it with a more open mindset. :)

PrismaticTears 12th October 2004 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruixiong89
Regarding the other incident about Ayu smoking, well, I suppose she was too drunk, hence she just picked the cigarette up.

You made me choke on my water.

y2687 12th October 2004 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrismaticTears
You made me choke on my water.

LOL that was good. .. I think I swallowed my orange juice the wrong way x_o

y2687 12th October 2004 03:29 PM

with the millions of smokers out there, and all you people worry about is Ayu. she as much as the restof the smoking population know the risks, if she does smoke.

Chrono 12th October 2004 05:30 PM

no, she doesn't. it was an accident the smoke came out her mouth :yes
and it was also an accident she held the cigarette. :yes

ImpactBreaker 12th October 2004 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrono
^ try looking in this very same thread

what's the big deal anyways... oh my god! she smokes! like millions of other people... sigh

looking for excuses what might have been wrong in all those pictures.

face it. ayumi goes to gay bars, gets drunk and smokes, and wears caps with chip chip mother****er on them.

And earrings with ***** written on them :yes

Anyway, ayu can always be a casual smoker. Those people who just smoke when they're drinking, if it's true and she drinks really moderately, on special occasions, then her smoking will surely have less repercussions than if she's a regular smoker.

PrismaticTears 12th October 2004 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2687
LOL that was good. .. I think I swallowed my orange juice the wrong way x_o

Tracheal Drinking Army unite! :D

kristen 13th October 2004 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gakkun
^ it is a big deal if she sings. Plus it's bad for her health. Would you really not care if Ayu died 20 years early??

Its bad for her health. True. And i almost guarantee if Ayumi died there wouldnt be a single dry eye throughout this forum. But its not like people complaining about it in this forum is gonna make her change.

Whether she does, or doesn't, can someone honestly prove that its our right to know?

maiyoya 13th October 2004 06:28 AM

talk so much but don't have Ayu's smoking-pix
how can I believe on???

liechin 13th October 2004 07:05 AM

i dun think that Ayu is smoking~~!@!!!@

Echiko 14th October 2004 05:13 AM

Even if Ayumi's smoking..so what? Really...The only thing in my head if she smokes now is her health and voice. T_T I hope she doesn't get sick.. But I think she does.. But there's nothing wrong with it besides you're slowly dissolving your insides as you smoke on at a time. =)

Youyou 16th October 2005 11:33 PM

It truly is Ayu's choice, however maybe despite the risks *even i know the risks and i smoke too* she wanted to.
- it help stop stress. lets face it, she must get very stressed being so famous! and so busy!
- also to make her voice less squeaky?! maybe?
- to retain her slim figure, lets not forget ayumi is not so young now and it is not so easy to say slim.

Ayumi no Yume 17th October 2005 12:42 AM

I doubt highly that she smokes...but then, there's this...
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/1694/ayuboy5tz.jpg :laugh

Aya Ariki 17th October 2005 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayumi no Yume
I doubt highly that she smokes...but then, there's this...
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/1694/ayuboy5tz.jpg :laugh

I think that it is just a poster.

ph33r 17th October 2005 05:38 AM

^ Yea, it's a from her photobook. Showing Ayu in a different style.
And that's a cigar. Even if, she'd be smoking a cigarette.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Youyou
- also to make her voice less squeaky?! maybe?

Smoking kills your voice I believe, as it kills your lungs. How would it make it any better..

RAISKA 17th October 2005 07:37 AM

Maybe she does, maybe she doesn't...thatsa just a pity, if she does, her imgae becomes darker...and voice worser..

emi♡ 17th October 2005 09:08 AM

isn't smoking EXTREMELY popular in japan? i mean all of Laruku's members smoke right? i thought it was like cool or something...yuck...i wouldn't smoke...but i love the smell of cigars, not cigarettes, cigars...for some reason whenever i say that, someone always has to say "you like cigarettes? DISGUSTING!" did i say cigarettes??? the cherry-vanilla cigars smell the best!

Lepra 17th October 2005 09:46 AM

I don't believe ayu smokes.. In the Real Me making-of screenshot someone posted the white thing is a pen. It can't be a cigarette because there's no smoke, and it doesn't look like a cigarette. And I doubt that she would smoke in such a place.

The second pic with the cigar.. Well that's just a made-up photo, not a real life situation. Anyhow, if she does smoke, i believe she does it rarely.

Chibi_Venus 18th October 2005 04:01 AM

If I were to side on if I thought if Ayu smoked or not, I would say she does not. The picture of her looking like she's holding a cigarette, does not look like one. I remember someone saying that there was an image of her smoking in the making of Real me, but I didn't see it at all. If she smokes, I would guess she smokes very little. Smoking is the leading cause of death (among Americans, I want to say, but am unsure), even more than alcohol, suicide, fire, AIDS, illegal drugs, and other things.

We'd probably have to ask Ayu to know if she smokes for sure, lol. She's a smart girl IMO, and I don't think she's a heavy smoker (if she smokes at all). I remember a picture from the making of CAROLS and people thinking she was holding a cigarette, but it was lip gloss.

That picture of her with a cigar just looks like a poster. Just looks like a grown "male" look. Note the mustache. :P I also recall people saying her voice totally changed when A BALLADS was released, but that could've been something totally different.

I'm just expressing my feelings here. Correct me if I've said anything wrong. :tsmile

ph33r 18th October 2005 05:15 AM

stupid.ca

Canadian government broadcasts all these ads that compare many stupid things with smoking, to prove that smoking is stupid, an ultimately, as Chibi_Venus, is a leading cause to death. Some of the ads are hilarious :laugh

MsMiyabi 18th October 2005 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruixiong89
Erm ... people, well, I don't know. I believe that yar, it's Ayumi's choice. But I do feel that she doesn't smoke, it's a gut feel, because yar, she's singer and I'm sure Avex would not allow their singers to smoke. It's for their interest.

Regarding the other incident about Ayu smoking, well, I suppose she was too drunk, hence she just picked the cigarette up. But I don't know, if you want to say that smoking has resulted in her voice getting more and more rough and worse ... well, I seriously don't think so ...


Thats is not True Avex can't decide that for anyone I mean Namie Amuro smokes and she is on Avex. Well I know Ayumi smokes I seen pictures of it along time about So yeah I think she does.

Aya Ariki 18th October 2005 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akurei
Thats is not True Avex can't decide that for anyone I mean Namie Amuro smokes and she is on Avex. Well I know Ayumi smokes I seen pictures of it along time about So yeah I think she does.

You mind posting the pictures, coz i don't really think she smokes.

truehappiness 18th October 2005 11:28 AM

Eh;; about ayu smoking.. I really don't think she'd be able to keep singing/working the way that she does. Not like her voice would just change, but her look would generally.. show it. You know? And we'd probably see it SOMEWHERE in an offshot.. you know, like the ARENATOUR 05 ones, where we see her drinking and all that. Shouldn't we have seen something like that?

;o; If she smokes, she must be a really stealthy person at smoking, cause she hides it from the public REALLY well..

starr5245 19th October 2005 02:33 PM

ayu does smoke. It's been published in a chinese tabloid paper that she was smoking in a pub and hurling vulgarities at someone. However, I have long since deleted away the picture, so I can't show you the evidence. I'm sure someone here may have it, so I just hope that person comes along and upload the picture.

spacelion 19th October 2005 03:41 PM

Yes Ayu smokes and so do most Asian singers. I think Ayu smokes privately though like when she is out drinking with her friends. She probably thinks smoking in front of people is rude and she dislikes rude people. You don't see her smoke in the Area Tours or w.e. because that is her "work" and not her "free time."
So yeah..
*she smokes
*she drinks
*she's human :)

~AyUsIcK~ 19th October 2005 04:26 PM

i believe she smokes but VERY little... for so long in the industry n only 1 comfirmed pic of her smoking prove that she smokes once in a MILLION YEARS!!

JimmyKoria 19th October 2005 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayumi no Yume
I doubt highly that she smokes...but then, there's this...
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/1694/ayuboy5tz.jpg :laugh

LOL XD and that isnt even lit. They lit it once so it would burn some, and let it go out most likely.

Isnt there more important things than Hamasaki smoking? Or drinking? Like how Hamasaki is "hellza" copying Cher..."dude," this is all really "raw."

julian 19th October 2005 08:07 PM

She's probably a social smoker, or a drinking smoker.

+Etra 20th October 2005 02:21 AM

I'm sure she smokes, which makes me kind of sad. :(

zeroshin888 20th October 2005 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by opal tanya cho
ayu does smoke. It's been published in a chinese tabloid paper that she was smoking in a pub and hurling vulgarities at someone. However, I have long since deleted away the picture, so I can't show you the evidence. I'm sure someone here may have it, so I just hope that person comes along and upload the picture.

Er... chinese tabloids are really not the first "evidence" you should be trusting. They always write false stuff and write things that are exaggerated just so more people will buy their newspaper...

HanabiChick 20th October 2005 11:21 AM

Wasn't there photos in tabloids a while back of Ayu in a club with some friends and she was clearly smoking and drinking, and then Ayu confirmed that that was her? So she does smoke, most likely socially. Here's the link to the thread:

http://iota.asmallorange.com/~ahsfor...t=21781&page=8

First page has scans and the last page has more scans with confirmation with a message posted at TA BBS. So it seems Ayu does smoke, at least socially.

devilayu 20th October 2005 05:26 PM

Just to diffuse some assumptions about smoking...
- just because you're a singer doesn't mean you can't or won't smoke. I know an opera singer who smokes and I can guarantee that kind of singing is more difficult than anything Ayumi has done
- for emilytogawa: From what I understand, all the Laruku members except Tetsu smoke. Hyde is supposedly trying to smoke less but not quit.
- Japan doesn't have the same smoking bans as America, so it's not exactly "rude" to smoke in a public place (I mean, you can smoke inside the airports)
- there's nothing 'wrong' with smoking, even though it is very unhealthy. It's a bad habit but it doesn't make anyone less intelligent for doing it. It's also an addiction, so for some people, kicking the habit is very hard.

The board is split on whether or not Ayumi smokes but if she did, would you like her any less because of it? I'm sure we all have friends and relatives who smoke but it's their choice, not yours.

heyrill 20th October 2005 07:04 PM

T____T i hate it.....i wish someone never make this thread......now the image of perfect ayu in my mind are broken.....

NeoDaydream 20th October 2005 07:55 PM

tsk tsk that sux...

*Petit* 20th October 2005 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HanabiChick
Wasn't there photos in tabloids a while back of Ayu in a club with some friends and she was clearly smoking and drinking, and then Ayu confirmed that that was her? So she does smoke, most likely socially. Here's the link to the thread:

http://iota.asmallorange.com/~ahsfor...t=21781&page=8

First page has scans and the last page has more scans with confirmation with a message posted at TA BBS. So it seems Ayu does smoke, at least socially.

She looks so much skinnier in that picture holding the cigarette.

//hikari 20th October 2005 09:53 PM

She smokes. big deal.

starr5245 21st October 2005 02:30 PM

haha. Of course, we shouldn't be concerned about it, unless her vocals suffer from smoking. I believe it doesn't. In Japan, many artistes smoke, for example Hyde of L'arc~en~ciel

JesA 24th October 2005 10:33 PM

*sigh* i dont kow what to beleive...her voice has gotten a little deeper...and girls' voices dont change like that...but anyway, i dont worry about her getting hurt from smoking. im more worried about her and millions of other people in Asia dying from trunamis and earthquakes....they seem to be getting more plentiful and worse.


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