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Catzi 29th October 2004 08:24 PM

Question about Because of You PV
 
Because of You is a great PV, but what's it about? When I saw it I couldn't help thinking it was about prositutes.

Well, if this question has been answered before, my apologies.

MsMiyabi 29th October 2004 10:49 PM

I think is is a bout Prositutes. I would explain

starr5245 30th October 2004 05:31 AM

sigh, it's really a disgusting PV. Actually, I don't really like it. Read the lyrics to know more about it.

extepan 30th October 2004 11:14 AM

indeed...i hate the pv....it is so cheap
apparently ayu is a prostitute in the pv, and the white substance represents the masculine bodily fluid called semen. o_O

Qt Mashi 30th October 2004 01:56 PM

lol
because of you is one of my favourite PV's and i think the white liquid coming out represents innocence and purity
can't be semen >_<

extepan 30th October 2004 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qt Mashi
lol
because of you is one of my favourite PV's and i think the white liquid coming out represents innocence and purity
can't be semen >_<

sorry to destroy your innocence, but it apparently does represent semen.

ohsixthirty 30th October 2004 02:08 PM

^Says who??? I don't think it does.

MsMiyabi 30th October 2004 07:27 PM

Well I love the pv its great!

Echiko 30th October 2004 08:40 PM

@ @;; I would be SCARED if it was semen okay? SCARED. and ayumi is NOT a ****. So...in conlusion..I think it represents purity slipping out of her fingers. ^_^ And I liked the PV. It always made me sad...it's like that innocent guy goes in to give flowers but she did not want him to be with the likes of her. So she pushes him away and cries. T_T

y2687 30th October 2004 08:49 PM

... o_o

why's everyone so afraid of semen? O_o it's not like it's dirty or toxic. I think it was daring for Ayu to make this PV, no matter WHAT the white liquid was. I liked this PV, it was a good change. :)

Echiko 30th October 2004 09:04 PM

XD I don't take it like it's poison or toxic. It's kinda...umm...straighforward...disgusting to have it run down your fingers like running water. o_o;; But I agree. It was very daring and brave of her to make this. ^____^ That's why nonetheless, I like it too.

stephymoo 30th October 2004 09:22 PM

*shrugs* She was just probably trying to make a statement about Japanese society or something. The white stuff probably represents semen -I mean, there are girls dressed as prostitutes in the pv- but who knows? It was interesting to see her do something different with her pvs.

Shiso 31st October 2004 12:31 AM

You people talking it reoresents semen... don't You know what semen looks like? :P Definately not like this "white fluid" ;)

Echiko 31st October 2004 12:51 AM

xD;; okay. so we know for sure.

Shiso 31st October 2004 01:20 AM

It was a brave PV - maybe she wanted to make it more matching the song? "A rockish, angry style"? :P

As for me it's a PV about love, but not about romantic, idealistic love, but about 20th century love - not fulfilled.

There are 5 prostitutes (or 6 if I'm not mistaken). They are shown randomly. At first I didn't even notice one was one of them shown and when the other ones were.

Ayu is NOT a prostitute. She's like a person who tells the story.

There are men who pay the prostitutes for sexual performances etc. But none of them know that the prostitutes have feelings for them.

There is a moment when one of the guys sees Ayu in the TV (an interesting thing - the main screen shows only the body, only the smaller screent on top of the main one shows the face) - he discovers the feelings a prostitute had for him.

He brings her flowers... why is he rejected? Please notice that he brought flowers to ALL 6 girls. They rejected him. As long as he was doing it for mere male pleassure it didn't hurt the girls. But when he tried to play with their feelings - it was too much.

Also an interesting thing - the anime that is shown in the TV in the prostitutes' room. The anime shows a perfect love. The girl in the anime falls in love, is unhappy because of love but all this ends happy... a perfect happy end. But the reality isn't like that. The reality is crual and it doesn't have a happy ending. "Life" is not a "fairy tale".

And the white fluid... I think it was supposed to look like semen, at first glance (to match the whole theme of the PV). But I suppose it does have a special meaning, I mean - come on - Ayu wouldn't put SEMEN in her PV without it having a meaning. I think I will stick with the version that says that the "whiteness" is just a symbol of purity... and they all are purified at the end of the PV...

A long post - if someone managed to read it - please share comments!

extepan 31st October 2004 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiso
You people talking it reoresents semen... don't You know what semen looks like? :P Definately not like this "white fluid" ;)

obviously she wouldnt use REAL semen in her pv LOL
it REPRESENTS semen, thats what i am saying.

Kazuko 31st October 2004 08:53 PM

i really liked the song...
i really liked the PV...
i don't care about what the white stuff is!! XDDD

sakyh 31st October 2004 09:27 PM

hm...i liked the video. I think the white stuff does have something to do with purity...We'll just have to ask her someday.^^
But, I agree with you Shiso.

Catzi 31st October 2004 09:47 PM

So, it is about prostitutes...

I really don't think the PV has anything to do with the lyrics. The red flowers and the pink crosses seem to be the only thing with any bright colors, so perhaps they symbolize something?

And that semen theory is interesting...

Either way, it made me have a new view on Ayu, I always thought of her as well, not really dealing with stuff such as prostitutes.

CREATE 2nd November 2004 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extepan
indeed...i hate the pv....it is so cheap
apparently ayu is a prostitute in the pv, and the white substance represents the masculine bodily fluid called semen. o_O

I think so from the first time i see the PV,
wow, it must be a breakthrough for ayu to include semen in her PV, but it also can describe 'innocence' and 'purity', heaven knows...

Echiko 4th November 2004 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiso
It was a brave PV - maybe she wanted to make it more matching the song? "A rockish, angry style"? :P

As for me it's a PV about love, but not about romantic, idealistic love, but about 20th century love - not fulfilled.

There are 5 prostitutes (or 6 if I'm not mistaken). They are shown randomly. At first I didn't even notice one was one of them shown and when the other ones were.

Ayu is NOT a prostitute. She's like a person who tells the story.

There are men who pay the prostitutes for sexual performances etc. But none of them know that the prostitutes have feelings for them.

There is a moment when one of the guys sees Ayu in the TV (an interesting thing - the main screen shows only the body, only the smaller screent on top of the main one shows the face) - he discovers the feelings a prostitute had for him.

He brings her flowers... why is he rejected? Please notice that he brought flowers to ALL 6 girls. They rejected him. As long as he was doing it for mere male pleassure it didn't hurt the girls. But when he tried to play with their feelings - it was too much.

Also an interesting thing - the anime that is shown in the TV in the prostitutes' room. The anime shows a perfect love. The girl in the anime falls in love, is unhappy because of love but all this ends happy... a perfect happy end. But the reality isn't like that. The reality is crual and it doesn't have a happy ending. "Life" is not a "fairy tale".

And the white fluid... I think it was supposed to look like semen, at first glance (to match the whole theme of the PV). But I suppose it does have a special meaning, I mean - come on - Ayu wouldn't put SEMEN in her PV without it having a meaning. I think I will stick with the version that says that the "whiteness" is just a symbol of purity... and they all are purified at the end of the PV...

A long post - if someone managed to read it - please share comments!

*bows* *_____* thanks so much for the explanation! I thought that that guy saw the prostitutes and fell in love. But the prostitutes didn't want the "innocent" guy to be tainted by the likes of them..so they pushed him out. XD But your explanation sounds alot more valid. thanks!

Qt Mashi 4th November 2004 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiso
It was a brave PV - maybe she wanted to make it more matching the song? "A rockish, angry style"? :P

As for me it's a PV about love, but not about romantic, idealistic love, but about 20th century love - not fulfilled.

There are 5 prostitutes (or 6 if I'm not mistaken). They are shown randomly. At first I didn't even notice one was one of them shown and when the other ones were.

Ayu is NOT a prostitute. She's like a person who tells the story.

There are men who pay the prostitutes for sexual performances etc. But none of them know that the prostitutes have feelings for them.

There is a moment when one of the guys sees Ayu in the TV (an interesting thing - the main screen shows only the body, only the smaller screent on top of the main one shows the face) - he discovers the feelings a prostitute had for him.

He brings her flowers... why is he rejected? Please notice that he brought flowers to ALL 6 girls. They rejected him. As long as he was doing it for mere male pleassure it didn't hurt the girls. But when he tried to play with their feelings - it was too much.

Also an interesting thing - the anime that is shown in the TV in the prostitutes' room. The anime shows a perfect love. The girl in the anime falls in love, is unhappy because of love but all this ends happy... a perfect happy end. But the reality isn't like that. The reality is crual and it doesn't have a happy ending. "Life" is not a "fairy tale".

And the white fluid... I think it was supposed to look like semen, at first glance (to match the whole theme of the PV). But I suppose it does have a special meaning, I mean - come on - Ayu wouldn't put SEMEN in her PV without it having a meaning. I think I will stick with the version that says that the "whiteness" is just a symbol of purity... and they all are purified at the end of the PV...

A long post - if someone managed to read it - please share comments!

shiso that is exactly wat i believe, except i neva thought about the white stuff was supposed to look like semen

Echiko 9th November 2004 04:39 AM

Kazuko thought the white stuff was milk..and really...why would she put MILK in there. > >;;

Catzi 9th November 2004 10:58 PM

Actually, I was thinking...
The white stuff is sticky. Perhaps, it's holding her down, like she's trapped and can't move on.

natalaxie 9th November 2004 11:03 PM

i thought it was a beautiful pv. yes its about prostitutes, but its more than that. its actually about they're insecurity, the fact that they feel trapped in that lifestyle. they can't love. a sad sad existence. the guy treats her bad and then he realises his mistake, he realises that she's a real person and goes back to apologise. ayumi's just trying to help us to understand that these are real people, they dont choose this lifestyle because they like it, they are in pain. showing even herself as a prostitute conveys that these are real people, all kinds of people. u shouldnt see it as so black and white. and i think the white stuff is innocence. the pv's about EMOTIONS not sex, jeez ppl

natalaxie 9th November 2004 11:06 PM

and yea i totally agree with shiso

//hikari 9th November 2004 11:22 PM

prostitutes usually don't want the semen to get on them anyway ..

yulen 9th November 2004 11:41 PM

semen???? yeah it did not look like semen x_x

i like the white purity idea as well o.o

nmskalmn 9th November 2004 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natalaxie
the pv's about EMOTIONS not sex, jeez ppl

Yes! :yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by natalaxie
yes its about prostitutes, but its more than that. its actually about they're insecurity, the fact that they feel trapped in that lifestyle. they can't love. a sad sad existence. the guy treats her bad and then he realises his mistake, he realises that she's a real person and goes back to apologise.

agree. I thought part of the PV's theme was the way some people treat other human beings like objects. That guy realized that the prostitutes were human beings too and then he felt bad about the way he had treated them before. Anyway, that's my take in brief.

Zesty 10th November 2004 12:11 AM

She wakes up - in literature this would be called an awakening, or transition from one phase to another, BLAH he throws money at her on the bed, kinda shows he is careless (at least now) and wipes his nose with his hand, and slams the door.
To me that says he doesnt have feelings for her.
The transition then, to me, is that if it IS starring prostitutes, he must have acted differently at first - he paid to get it on, right? She's in a bed, people who think this isnt using a theme of sex are just putting a blind spot on what they cant accept.

The red crosses mean something too. They're in the bedroom, and outside when they are on that turn table thing. I dont know what it means.

I like the room. There are no windows but one door. And in that door is like a peek-hole the men are oustide lookin in. I think. I may have to watch it again but okay.
THE CHILD TOYS on the shelves definitely represent PURITY or INNOCENCE.
I dont know why they are trapped in that room.
Maybe they feel trapped. With nothing to look at but purity and innocence...

The white stuff, heh, I dont want to be as bold asnmfirsaeg Yeah semen doesnt look like that, but what else could it be? Ayumi's not going to (in reality) WALLOW in SEMEN, and what do we know about semen?
-It's whitish
-It's sticky & runny LOL
-And only men can make it! sorry girlies
Okay so, is it white? chyeah, is it runny? chyeah, is it sticky? I dont know but its still on her hands after running off of it. And theres that man paying the prostitute in the beginning with no feelings. I think it must be semen.
So if it's manjuice, why is it even mentioned? I think it was a bit TOO bold of ayumi (or whoever made her do this).
Personally, the stuff to me means consummation, desire, and something extremely intimate.

It's really bold, yeah, and its making a bold statement.
I think it is interesting to note the bigger television is the one her body is displayed, and her face on the smaller one, Kinda like You have to look past just the sexiness!
There is someone who needs love behind the money.
Thats what I think.
The roses - I think he realizes something. Its in his eyes, and he gives it to the girls. I dont know if he gave it to all of the girls, or if those people represent ALL girls feeling trapped, or ALL men feeling like they dont care past the big tv.

But she doesnt accept the rose.
Thats what I dont understand,
maybe it just hurts too much?
Because she cries at the end.

It may be gross, I personally HATE this PV,
but it has a lot of symbolism, used to express something really intimate, I think.

//hikari 10th November 2004 01:27 AM

but why would the backdrop (which is all dark and dank) be covered in splooge in the end? that part doesn't make sense with the semen theory.

PickleCookies 10th November 2004 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by //hikari
but why would the backdrop (which is all dark and dank) be covered in splooge in the end? that part doesn't make sense with the semen theory.

Because people don't know how to use logic and rational thinking.


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