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[biku] 21st July 2005 07:55 AM

Can Ayu really be that perfect?
 
This has bugged me for a while. Ayu's face seems almost flawless, her bone structure, skine, everything. Which begs the question has she ever had anything done? I mean, how many japanese artists are THAT good looking? Or who knows, maybe she had really good genes. Ya never know.

stardusties 21st July 2005 07:57 AM

yes she can be :D! her mom's kinda pretty too! -havent seen her whole face but she's pretty from what i can see-

Gunblitze 21st July 2005 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by [biku]
This has bugged me for a while. Ayu's face seems almost flawless, her bone structure, skine, everything. Which begs the question has she ever had anything done? I mean, how many japanese artists are THAT good looking? Or who knows, maybe she had really good genes. Ya never know.


To me, shes got some huge long ears lol :yes , and editing can do a lot to a person's looks in pictures etc, like make their skin smoother than it actually is, its better if you based it on live performances / talks rather than photos and stuff, so....meh :innocent

AND we've only seen her face and stuff, maybe Ayu has like...a big lump of meat hanging down the inside of her thighs or something, or like a really pimply/hairy upper stomache lol :eyebrow

RAISKA 21st July 2005 08:02 AM

Ayu is really so sweetie! I watched "Sumomo mo momo" movie with Ayu! I can say, that she 1000000% never have done plastic surgery! Her eyes are the same-they are so big and beautiful! The mouth & nose are the same too! She didn't do any surgery.

[biku] 21st July 2005 08:03 AM

Her albums are retouched beyond reality, I do agree. But on her lives, shes not that bad either. Just a little sweaty >__< But her skin does look a little unhuman in her album pictures, especially rainbow.

y2687 21st July 2005 08:03 AM

I don't think she's done surgery, and if she has, I could really care less.

Qt Mashi 21st July 2005 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RAISKA
Ayu is really so sweetie! I watched "Sumomo mo momo" movie with Ayu! .

wow i wanna watch the movie!! how did u get it? or where did u d/l it?

i dunno if she had done nething to her face or not so yeah....Ayu isnt perfect perfect but she is perfect! o_O.....

AyuRlz 21st July 2005 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by stardusties
yes she can be :D! her mom's kinda pretty too! -havent seen her whole face but she's pretty from what i can see-

yea i guess she has good genes as i have seen her mum before too! anyone who has her photo can kindly upload again pls?

AyuGAME 21st July 2005 08:53 AM

hmm..with all the money she have..i think she can do some treatment to her body although i believe that she has ever done a plastic surggery. she is original.why she can look like this.it just because make up,its the power of make up you know
she is really creative and have many idea.strong and independent
she is perfect but as human there must be some weakness..

[biku] 21st July 2005 08:59 AM

Hm, I wonder if anyone has ever taken one of those "stars without makeup" pictures of Ayu. But then again, it probably wouldn't look much different. Just less mascara.

Gunblitze 21st July 2005 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by [biku]
Hm, I wonder if anyone has ever taken one of those "stars without makeup" pictures of Ayu. But then again, it probably wouldn't look much different. Just less mascara.

In a few Ayuready episodes, it seems she didn't wear any makeup at all.

SnowDrop 21st July 2005 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by [biku]
Hm, I wonder if anyone has ever taken one of those "stars without makeup" pictures of Ayu. But then again, it probably wouldn't look much different. Just less mascara.

Here's one screenshot from NTV Special Report 2000 that I took, it looks like she has almost no make up, but I don't know ?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...yunomakeup.jpg

Gunblitze 21st July 2005 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SnowDrop
Here's one screenshot from NTV Special Report 2000 that I took, it looks like she has almost no make up, but I don't know ?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...yunomakeup.jpg


wow her left eye is weird in that pic... maybe she just woke up lol :o

[AHS]MortalSex 21st July 2005 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by RAISKA
Ayu is really so sweetie! I watched "Sumomo mo momo" movie with Ayu! I can say, that she 1000000% never have done plastic surgery! Her eyes are the same-they are so big and beautiful! The mouth & nose are the same too! She didn't do any surgery.
Dammit! I want to see that movie too been searching for it for 6 months now no results, did you buy the movie or dl it? ^^ Maybe you could share your source with us

nmskalmn 21st July 2005 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by [biku]
This has bugged me for a while. Ayu's face seems almost flawless, her bone structure, skine, everything. Which begs the question has she ever had anything done? I mean, how many japanese artists are THAT good looking? Or who knows, maybe she had really good genes. Ya never know.

She's not that perfect. She wears lots of make-up and her magazine/CD shoots are no doubt retouched.

Watch some of the making-of's or concert off-shots and you'll see the difference.

SunshineSlayer 21st July 2005 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Qt Mashi
wow i wanna watch the movie!! how did u get it? or where did u d/l it?

i dunno if she had done nething to her face or not so yeah....Ayu isnt perfect perfect but she is perfect! o_O.....

I've also seen Sumomomo, Ladies Saigo no Hi, and the TV show Miseinen - all things before Ayu was famous and she looks the same to me too. I was able to find them on WinMX but it took a very long time to get them.

[AHS]MortalSex 21st July 2005 12:09 PM

Hmm ok could you share it with us using hjspliter and split the movies up in parts and upload them to AHS? I would appreciate that!
Thanks for sharing your source but I donīt use P2P programs ^^

ohsixthirty 21st July 2005 04:42 PM

Retouching can work miracles for your complexion. :)

Either way, she usually looks pretty nice. And if she had surgery...eh, I could care less.

elepop 21st July 2005 05:03 PM

On the contrary. She is not perfect. But she's perfect the way she is.

ohsixthirty 21st July 2005 05:13 PM

^awww, that was sweet! :heart

devilayu 21st July 2005 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by nmskalmn
She's not that perfect. She wears lots of make-up and her magazine/CD shoots are no doubt retouched.

Watch some of the making-of's or concert off-shots and you'll see the difference.

^ I was so gonna say that. ^_^

Once in a while these "perfection" topics come up and it's fun to see the reactions.

minkAYuko 21st July 2005 07:41 PM

hey asongforXX what u said is cool!

and i do think she's perfect... like... at least like a ''product'' she is... as a person... she is the best person she can be. and that's makes her perfect.

r0entgen 22nd July 2005 12:49 AM

not to be rude, but i think many of you are in denial...just look at how her nose has changed shape through the years...there were periods when her nose looked flawless, and periods where it looked not so great...

not that it matters, cuz i'm not against plastic surgery or anything...but whatever...

SunshineSlayer 22nd July 2005 12:55 AM

Whether she has had plastic surgery or not, has no impact on her music what so ever. However, unless you have proof, I wouldn't be saying that she has for sure had plastic surgery. From everything I have seen including many things from her younger days and a picture of her mother, her nose and eyes look the same to me.

You also shouldn't trust "official" pictures as evidence such as magazine covers, album covers etc. because they almost always are retouched to make them look a certain way.

gakkun 22nd July 2005 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by r0entgen
not to be rude, but i think many of you are in denial...just look at how her nose has changed shape through the years...there were periods when her nose looked flawless, and periods where it looked not so great...
.

It's called bad makeup artists and good ones. Or maybe different angles that you were looking from.

Seriously, Ayu has never been perfect. She's short, doesn't exactly have a good body, and can't really dance even though she tries to. But it doesn't stop her being a great artist.

miracleofsuzaku 22nd July 2005 01:25 AM

To me, she is virtually flawless except maybe her teeth in some pics.

Qt Mashi 22nd July 2005 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by asongforXX
On the contrary. She is not perfect. But she's perfect the way she is.

yeah lol that was what i was trying to say "Ayu is not perfect perfect but she is perfect"

SunshineSlayer 22nd July 2005 02:16 AM

I think Ayu said it best in the lyrics to To Be: I'll never be perfect, but I shine in my imperfection. Love that line. :)

Endlessoul 22nd July 2005 03:01 AM

No one can be perfect....so does ayu...but she is nearly perfect haha~~

mcken200 22nd July 2005 03:59 AM

99.9% perfection ayu is

[biku] 22nd July 2005 05:55 AM

And ever IF she has had anything done, she has the talent and personality to back it up so we love her anyway. And by the way, the the new PV for Alterna a little weird? I like it.

Fast Forward 22nd July 2005 06:15 AM

I don't think shes perfect other wise she wouldnt have to dye her hair every twelve hours. But I do think she is gorgeous, she's like wine gets better with age. The only other artist/star that I can compare her to, would be jessica alba she is gorgeous as well.

y2687 22nd July 2005 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Fast Forward
I don't think shes perfect other wise she wouldnt have to dye her hair every twelve hours. But I do think she is gorgeous, she's like wine gets better with age. The only other artist/star that I can compare her to, would be jessica alba she is gorgeous as well.

you bastard, you're using my icon without permission! :wtf




..permission granted. :yes

elepop 22nd July 2005 04:43 PM

Oh no. The whole plastic surgery thing is coming back again...

lolo66 23rd July 2005 02:07 AM

Ayu was never, is not, is never going to be perfect. You crazed fans. haha

lolo66 23rd July 2005 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by r0entgen
not to be rude, but i think many of you are in denial...just look at how her nose has changed shape through the years...there were periods when her nose looked flawless, and periods where it looked not so great...

not that it matters, cuz i'm not against plastic surgery or anything...but whatever...

Hey my nose does that too, but I'm too poor to afford surgery you know.
sheeeeesh

Fast Forward 23rd July 2005 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by y2687
you bastard, you're using my icon without permission! :wtf




..permission granted. :yes


Thanks!! Just found it in some random folder lol.

Endlessoul 23rd July 2005 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by lolo66
Ayu was never, is not, is never going to be perfect. You crazed fans. haha

HAHA~~that's what fansmeans :D

gogirlanime 23rd July 2005 03:54 AM

I'm not gonna turn this into another debate about if she's gotten surgery or not, but I do know this: most pictures of Ayu are probably airbrushed, she does have gorgeous skin, but it's usually fixed with a computer. Ayu wears false eyelashes, that's how every eyelash is perfectly separated. She wears liquid eyeliner, so the black is perfect and never smudged. I PERSONALLY believe she had eye surgery, not to make her eyes bigger, but so she could have a double eyelid and to get rid of the puffy skin under her eyes, if you look at older pictures of her, she's always had huge eyes. Her teeth, they have probably been whitened and straightened cosmetically cuz a lot of Japanese have really bad teeth. Most Jpop stars get a lot of stuff done, not much of Ayu it truly real.

elepop 23rd July 2005 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Endlessoul
HAHA~~that's what fansmeans :D

Being a fan doesn't mean you have to think that Ayu's perfect. That's just nuts.

emi♡ 23rd July 2005 08:25 PM

was Ayu wearing make-up in these photos?

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/269/good3kn.th.jpghttp://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8688/kinou8ry.th.jpg

elepop 23rd July 2005 08:28 PM

^^ Not sure. In most of her concerts, she wears very little makeup.

emi♡ 23rd July 2005 08:36 PM

was that even a concert? did she sing?

SunshineSlayer 23rd July 2005 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by emikotogawa
was that even a concert? did she sing?

Yes, that was her second tour in the year 2000.

PrismaticTears 24th July 2005 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by emikotogawa

Not very good pictures to judge but I'd take a guess with her top lid looking darker, presumably light eyeliner only on the top eyelid with maybe some mascara and perhaps just foundation or perhaps powder on her skin so sweat doesn't show up, stage lights are -really- hot, no blush or lipstick at all is obvious. Eyeliner/mascara is common for stage performers, even male although this is more common in theatre, so that the eyes stand out so even from far away you can see the eyes.

lovia 24th July 2005 04:19 AM

i really believe that she has good genes.... hahah something weird my mum say, she say ayu probably has a mixed blood, as in her father maybe a caucasian or a mixed...

sometimes it is the camera angle which make ayu to look a bit different.. yeah thats what i think.. so we still cant judge whether ayu is perfect from the photos, mag scans or live vcds/dvds.. we can only judge if we see her personally... really...

however, in my opinion, i think ayu is really perfect... she is not perfect because she is perfect, she is perfect because she wanted to be perfect :)

[biku] 24th July 2005 06:21 AM

If Ayu WAS perfect, it wouldn't be that fun to be a fan. It's the small things like forgetting a few words while performing Trauma or a tooth a little farther back that make us like her more. I do agree there is a lot of pressure in the industry and she has depended a lot on her looks to sell albums.

Qt Mashi 24th July 2005 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by asongforXX
^^ Not sure. In most of her concerts, she wears very little makeup.

yeah i like her make up in her concerts~

when ayu wears to much makeup it make her look kinda old

the angel song 24th July 2005 07:18 AM

I agree with biku. It's the little "imperfect" things about ayu that makes her so appealing, but in my book, she is really amazingly beautiful. To me, her little flaws though actually make her more "human" rather than "imperfect" :b.

PrismaticTears 24th July 2005 05:24 PM

http://glennferon.com.nyud.net:8090/...rtfolio01.html

Finally found it again, portfolio of retouching, put your mouse over the image to see the untouched, original photo, it gives one an idea of just how much photoshopping can accomplish. Mind you there's women in swimsuits and lingerie and whatnot so not kid safe. For those who know who Vida Guerra is, apparently what made her famous is just a bunch of clone brush and airbrush, her posterior isn't anything to write home about.

the angel song 24th July 2005 08:21 PM

^ that's an interesting site, but it's obvious that any pic that's to be published is going to have retouches like that. It's a given. But it's the people's actual personalities that makes them beautiful when you see pics of them without all the glam :3.

y2687 25th July 2005 03:46 AM

wow, some of those have been edited way too much :rubeyes


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