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CCCD - on rainbow - does it work?
I read the cover on my CD saying that the CD is a "Copy ProteCted CD" (i think that's where they derived the name CCCD) which is supposed to prohibit copying, and it says that some audio players cannot play back the CD... then I wonder, oh why not, I always keep mp3 format of any of my purchased CDs on my hard drive by ripping them from the CD itself, and so i poped it into the drive and started my ripping program - it rips just like the other CDs :roflmao so I was wondering, how does this CCCD work? anyone has any idea if it works at all? or it's only protecting a direct CD-to-CD copy? O_o? :caa :caa
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yeah i wonder that to! can someone explained that for me?
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It's supposed to be copy protection, but sometimes people can easily copy them, other times they can't. It usually depends on what type of CD drive you have, and what program you use to copy it. As you can see, the technology is not very perfected. :laugh
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CCCD means Copy Control CD. You can take a look on this article directly to Avex site : http://www.avex.co.jp/e_site/press/2...ess020228.html
It doesn't allow ripping but allows some copy ( like on a minidisc for example ) It prevents u to see the tracks in explorer but in Open MG for Sony Net MD you can see it. Normally an autorun player start on a PC ...but if you use Media Player or Real one and select ' Play Audio CD ... it works well ...so what's the advantage.. And now I 'm sure that some programs can rip them ...(I know some ppl who have tried ). For the moment I encoded my CCCD legit album to Open MG only and played them with the Sony player. |
it only prevents some common players like Windows Media Player and RealPlayer to copy.........I also can rip CCCD wif CDex
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CCCD protection does not work with CD-RW drives. I can rip and play it just like a regular CD when I use my CD-RW drive.
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I use CDex, but I cannot rip them. I have a CD-RW drive, and a DVD drive, but I can't get them to rip.
What exactly did you do EdenZone, or did it just work automatically for you? Because all I get is a datatrack, and it won't let me rip it. Ashley |
Thanks god the CCCD is not perfect......hope they will never make it "perfect"
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hey ashley meeh too! for the free and easy single all i can rip was the first song.. and i didnt try other cccd singles/albums.. can any one help me?
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the EASIEST and most PRIMATIVE but also EFFECTIVE way..is u know when itz a cccd..therez a rim on the back of the cd?? use a black mark to CAREFULLY trace the rim..thus erasing the cccd feature!! easy?? haha
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or just do what I do, and get back at the capitalistic pigs running the music industry by just downloading it all off the internet and not paying a cent. sure, the artist gets jipped, but only 7 cents, that they would easily make up for should they hold concerts in the area (bands make most their money off concerts). why would I support an industry that keeps the cost of cds twice the cost of tapes when tapes cost a lot more for the company to make? it makes no sense, just greed. so I just take what I want- I'd love to see any government agent come up with a legit reason to see my computer lol
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talkin 'bout tapes...where does md's go????
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I tried H Single (CCCD Protected) and Easy CD Creator 5 ripped it like any normal CD. However, when I tried RAINBOW, it took forever. This CD protection definetly isn't as good as they say it is.
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eek! :eek that sounds really dangerous to be doing that to a 27 dollar cd! what if I mess up? does it ruin the entire cd? because I'd love to have my own personal mp3s so that I can just turn on the computer and not have to find cds all the time. |
Copy Control Cd.. it can be ripped.. but when u listen in winamp.. it will not be perfect...i've tried it b4
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You can go to the download section of the forum and find a topic that is sticky that lets you download all the MP3s from the album. |
is there any other way to rip it?
or can anybody give me a link to all of ayumi's album? i want to dl all her older songs that i didn't have...... |
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Ripping with CDex from CCCD CD's is working. And it's very easy. If you choose the drive where the CD is in, CDex should immediately display the tracks whether it is CCCD or not. Well I've tried it with my H single a few minutes ago and it did work.
And about tracing the rim with a black marker, I wouldn't do it even if there was no other way to rip the CD, the CD was just too expensive if I would make a mistake and the CD wouldn't work afterwards I would kill myself :D. |
muwhahahahaha soo true :thumbsup
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there is another alternative program - actually there are 4 - that i can list here:
EAC (exact audio copy) u can get it from www.exactaudiocopy.de (u need the LAME dos encoder for it to encode in mp3 in a very good quality!) WINDAC /w LAME/bladeenc (www.windac.de) Audiograbber (discontinued, but there are Wa**z out there) Windows Media Player works fine for me! (Version 8 and 9) CDEX rips fine too Winamp plugins also can do that (forgot which but it dumps it as an mp3/wav, depends on what u want) hm what else.... i guess those are the ones that i know :( hope that helps I recommend EAC the most (best quality) a little but hard to use at the beginning if you are new to it, but it gives u the best rips (well to me...) using the r3mix preset it provides /w LAME :) |
wooooo weeeeeeee thanks kazuni but looks hard -_-
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Oops, I'm bringing this topic back up again. . .
The black marker-thing DOESN'T WORK! I tried it with my Voyage single and it did nothing to prevent the CCCD from working, but the CD still plays perfectly. What I did was take a black Sharpie and make a thin line around the ouside rim of the back of the CD. Somewhere I read that that was where the CCCD was, but it's probably near the same rim with the actual music. Oh well, the Voyage CD still looks great since the line is only small and it still works in my CD players. |
Yeah, don't do the black marker thing. Someone here at the forum ruined a cd doing that. It's just not a smart idea. If your computer won't rip the tracks, download them from here or someone who has them.
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Also, I know a place where you can get copies of Ayu's cds really cheap if you want to rip the tracks from that and have a copy for your car. AIM me if anyone is interested.
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DON'T let Avex's program loaded up in your PC.
That's the most important thing. Hold Shift while the disk gets loaded until the LED stop blinking for a while, then use your favourite ripping software. |
Hi everybody,
I read all your posts about rip Avex CCCD tracks but I can't. I tried all soft you talked but nothing. On my CD, there are 12 audio tracks but when I put the disc in my drive, I see 13 data tracks . No soft can read and extract data tracks in WAV file.. and copy of the CD is impossible . So what is the problem ? from my drive or maybe it's a new CCCD protection ? Album name is Cyber Trance 6 . Thanks. I hope you could help me. |
What about analog ripping? I haven't tried this myself, but here is a link about how to do it:
http://www.blazeaudio.com/howto/rip-overview.html |
You can use this programe "IsoBuster" to rip it :)
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CDex too..... i forgot the site to dl it. but you can search for it
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I ripped the single Free & Easy with EAC, becaus no other prog worked for me. it's alittle bit hard a the beginning, bu it works 100%!
i try to find the site where they explain how to use EAC. :) |
Thanks . I'm waiting for your answer....
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ok i found another tutorial, it's a little bit "heavy" but very good.
http://www.ping.be/satcp/tutorials.htm as soon as i am at home i'll post the other link with the short and easy tutorial... ;) |
hmm. thanks.. everyone shouldn't have problems now...
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i ripped Ayu Trance 2 20 mins ago, everything ok with EAC. Ayu Trance 2 is CCCD protected.
:idea mini tutorial by me: 1. Insert Audio CD and click on: Action - Detect TOC Manually 2. Select the tracks you want to rip and click on: Action - Copy Selected Tracks - Uncompressed or Compressed ( click on compresed if you have installed LAME codec) (3) if you have selected "uncompressed" you have to compress the *.wav in mp3 with any mp3 compressing prog. that's all. hope this could help. :thumbsup mata ne~ |
From what I've seen, CCCD protection is just based on an unwritten area on the disk before the data track. A few drives don't like this and don't report the list of tracks properly, but if you're not in that case you can extract the tracks without any trouble...
You can make a non-cccd version of the disc by rewriting a cd from those ripped tracks :P |
CCCD is pointless... someway somehow it still ends up on KaZaA within days of the CD release...
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i use clonecd...and it werks great....iso buster too...
but when i try some programs it took forever...that is because it was prevented to rip the last track or data at the end of the cd space... |
bah! gay cccd
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I'll never get why they're using copy protection anyways. First of all, it's cracked sooner or later and second, if you can rip the CD, it means you actually bought it, which is just what they wanted you to do, but you might have problems with playing it properly on every CD player. So they're basically punishing you for buying a much too expensive CD. :curse
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Well I'm now downloading CDex 1.5 beta 7..... hopes that still be able to rip CCCD.
Sometimes when you can't find certain Music on the net, you will need to rip the CD tracks onto your PC. Avex are doing this simply because they want everyone to buy it. Too bad that it drags the sales lower. |
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This problem is about the CD-ROM's brand...
some broad read CCCD just like reading the other normal CD (often older model) some brand sometime read is OK , but sometime it's not some brand can't read CCCD all (often newer) |
CCCD??? doesn't work at all.
CCCD from avex is no work at all. In my country, the CD can be copied by CD writer. And the copy CD is clear at all. There's no use of CCCD.
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ur ryt, ayuvextrax... I tried copying a song from A BALLADS to my computer and it worked.... but then when I played the CD(not the copy) the "player" didn't display the MIX names(eg. "northern breeze")... anyway, the copy sounds as good as the one in the CD.
Oh, and I just copied it through WMP... |
I used audiograbber to burn it a cccd and some other files. In most cases it workeb but when I play a song it has no sound.
All the info is there and everything but no sound at alll :caa |
LOL! this thread getting old @_@ but hey! people still manage to burn them :) but risk of damaging cd :(
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Yeah, I got A BALLADS and burned every bit of them with Window Media, then I just encode them into MP3 with another program and its up for grabs, sorta... anyways,
CCCD will never take my ripping ability away from me! |
I've got a question:
Is avex trax the only label that uses CCCDs? I don't think any North American label uses them on their CDs; their method to stop mp3 distribution is to sue people. x_X;; |
no, Sony is also using CCCD. And, yes there is copy protection on American CDs now, example, Alicia Key's new album. The way you can tell is something is copy-protected is by looking for the Compact Disc stamp, if it's not there, it's protected.
Anyways, for ripping CCCD, I use Musicmatch, it rips FAST and rips CCCD CDs with no problems at all. It rips them in perfect audio goodness in less than a minute per track. |
For me, i could copy &. But i cant copy track and paste them in my computer, that's the only things i cant do
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As has been briefly mentioned on this site, NO SOFTWARE will HELP you rip the CCCD's. It's a hardware issue. Meaning it's your CD drive. Some models, most notably plextors, have been claimed to rip them fine. There's a discontinued model in Germany I heard that was able to rip EVERY version of CCCD put out by EVERY label. I have an HP CD-RW (CD-Writer PLUS 8000) and a Sony CD-RW drive and NEITHER OF THEM will rip the CD's. CCCD's are designed to exploit the read-ahead function of CD drives. That's the function that scans the whole CD b'fore you're able to access it. It's a way for your computer to basically tell you what the CD contains, the file sizes, name, and properties. This information must be read from the CD b'fore it's displayed to you. CCCD catches it in the midst and stalls the process, preventing it from goin' any further, that's how it works. I've used every conceivable prog out there with no joy. So, to lay myths to rest, it's a HARDWARE ISSUE! People, plz, instead of posting "such 'n' such program was able to rip so 'n' so CD", PLZ, I URGE YOU, give us your stats on your HARDWARE! Tell us the model and maker of your CD drive!!! :thumbsup
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Hey, sorry to bring this back, AGAIN, but i have a question.
It's like ripping CCCD (i posted in the technical section about this too, and Unimatrix Prime sent me here). It's about copy to MD, too. Whenever i tried to copy any CDs with CC BEFORE &, they had imperfections in the sound. For example, "click" sounds, like of a pen. Also, there is some scratching sounds, and it's really just horrible. Anyways, any CDs AFTER & where fine, I could put them onto my MD no problem, no imperfections (like Memorial Address). I tried using EAC, and it took out the scratching sounds, but the click was still there. However, whenever i tried to play the audio in EAC, it would be 100% PERFECT. So, i'm confused.... >_<;;; Can someone please help me? |
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Dayum! And I thought we had found the holy grail to end CCCD!!! :caa
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use a programme called easy cd-da extractor,
by typing it into the google search engine |
what is cccd?
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cccd is copy-control compact disc
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I used musicmatch JUKEBOX and it rips CCCD like a it's ripping a normal CD.
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Also... there are other forms(or something) of CCCD...
There's the one Sony Music uses: Label Gate CD & Label Gate CD2 With Label Gate CD you won't be able to play the CD on your comp unless u go to a site and get a sort of access code. Label Gate CD2 CDs enable you to play the CDs on your comp without the access code. http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/cccd/ |
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It depends on type of ur CD drive...Mine is an old CD drive (History)...LOLZ Maybe it can't detect those advanced CCCD system Actually, U can record the album by Window media player as a WMA format then convert them to MP3 (I dun find any different of its quality ~ ) |
i have ripped all CCCD with absolutely no problem with Musicmatch Jukebox. some people say it is a hardware constraint. i kinda agree, as some people say sony cdrom drives dont let you rip cccd. for me, i use LITE-ON cd-rw and dvd and dvd-rw drives, and they all rip cccd fine!!!
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Did Alicia Keys latest album have CCCD? I have it, tough I haven't tried ripping it... Also, Dido's latest album is supposed to (Tough its no match for CloneCD) along with Pink's (Just the same) and Anastacia's (Can't be played on WMP, only in the Sony Music Player that comes in the CD)
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I have ripped my original Rainbow CD with dBpowerAmp 10, no problem, it's like other CD. I really dont undesrtand why avex lost money by protecting some CD... Waste of time, waste of money (the CCCD logo over the cd package etc...)
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I've seen a lot of people saying that MusicMatch rips the protected cd's with no problem. But that's because MusicMatch automatically switches to the analog mode when it detects that the cd is protected. So it starts ripping the cd in anolog mode..
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I've ripped RAINBOW with Nero V.5. My friend couldn't do it on his ripping program, but maybe my burner is older, and doesn't understand CCCD.
Hooray for the dark ages! |
iTunes works just fine for me.
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Does it create any problems like that software Sony Music had?
Also, how do I remove the player it installs in my comp? |
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I've read many replies on e-stores that the new Britney Spears' album "B In The Mix" has some kind of protection (like a CCCD) which is like a virus that it's installed in your computer when trying torip it and then it won't allow you to rip anymore...
I wonder if this is some kind of violation forit has something that gets into your PC without you noticing. Maybe if Avex didn't want the people to rip Ayu's albusm they would have used something like that, ah? Because as I've read, the CCCD protection it's not that effective. *+D.N.A.+* |
Oh, I forgot to say and I edited this double post -sorry!- that my copy of rainbow it's not CCCD, were all of them supposed to be like that?
I'm not pretty sure. *+D.N.A.+* |
My copy of RAINBOW (OS ver) has CCCD.... Anyway all the stuff thats been going around about Sony's copy control CDs is worrying me, I ripped some CCCD Avex j-pop cds. And that player is installed in my comp.
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Yup yup.
Now I know what was going ont with this CCCD thing... as posted on a science magazine: "This whole thing of the copy protection it's already backfiring onto the companies for artists such as Ricky Martin, The Coral and Celine Dion had this kind of protection called XCP (Extended Copy Protection) on their CD's which installed some kind of software which actually worked exactly the same as a trojan-like virus and a special player which won't alow the user to rip the cd's and in any case of uninstalling it, it will make the PC not to recognize the CD Drive affecting thousands of buyers and users. Due to the pressure of media and public th company started to distribute another program to safely uninstall the program but they had to return the CD's and their moey was given back. Then this program was called a malware which is the name for those software as virus, such as spyware that enter ilegally or damage the computers." Taken from Muy Interesante Science Divulgation Magazine Translated by ME (-^v^-) |
I ripped the CD with iTunes. It was just like a normal CD :D
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Anyone have a problem with cccd using itunes?!? |
^ Itunes dosen't let me rip CD's anymore =/
So I use Windows Media Player and it works fine. |
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There has to be a media player that plays CCCD somewhere.
Just try every media player you have. I also hear that those CDs are made with built-in media players, meaning when you put it in your drive it should automatically pop up, or even a media player installed on your computer should pop up and start playing it. |
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