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(miss)understood 3rd week sales
It's not actually out yet, but that Kinki Kids guy just reached no.1 with 92 thousand copies, which means (miss)understood sold even less.
edit: happy-san from ayuloveayu says the 3rd week sales are 82731. It's probably correct but I guess we'll have to wait for Oricon.. |
9.2万 is 92,000 actually...
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Woah that's pretty low..
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not to be mean or something, but .... that's why you need to open a new thread...?
... I think we have enough "weekly sales" threads in where you could write this "news" in.... or not? .... |
well i hope Ayu only sold a couple less than Kinki Kids ^_^"
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^even if its just a little less, its really low :(
maybe it'll rise back up again *hoping* |
^ i doubt it'll rise again, so sad but true :( Ayu should do something to promote it, maybe a handshake session!
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:o I wonder how Ayu'll pull herself up into the million mark for this ~ :[
She can do it! |
Does this mean that her fanbase has sunk about 50% the past year...? :(
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wait the minute i think ayu's sales will be higher than 92.000 maybe its 100.000 because That Kinki Kinds guy only at no 1 for 3 days after that his sales dropped drastically down to number 7 ~ ... the sales figure is a bit disappointing but
i guess its her fault... It is a great album ... and what a pity that it will not raech 1 million ~ She hasnt done anything yet to promote her album ... All she does just perform the annoying song Bold & Delicious She could at least perform Rainy Day / (miss)understood / criminal at kouhaku / Music Station Super Live or the CDTV special .. :no :no :no big mistake by ayu ~ |
Mmm... only because it sold less than 90,000 this week doesn't mean it won't reach the million mark :rolleyes
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well, in my opinion, ayu's record label knows what its doing and this album was heavily promoted just like all her other albums. Just performing another song on CDTV would not affect the album sales by thousands of copies. The album has been promoted through the new PVs and radio and... millions of other ways as well. I don't think its sales can be blamed on promotion. We are not record label execs. And most of us aren't even in Japan to see any of this promotion anyway, so how can we know how well it's being promoted?
But I've been on a lot of ayu forums and seen a lot of people criticize the promotion of many of ayu's CDs... and I honestly don't see a lot of basis for it. On the other hand, I don't really think it's useful to scrutinize every weekly sales and wonder about ayu's popularity. Fact of the matter is, this album is selling about what was expected given what the singles sold, and really, its sales aren't half bad. --my 2c |
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Perhaps it's too much pure rock on this album, sompared to her other albums? Ayu has always been the queen of j-pop remember, and thus her fans must have been appreciating pop first and foremost. O.o |
hmm...I'm still going to wait for the final result, because the koichi album spent only 3 days as number 1 and went down to #7, so I'm pretty sure it's higher. Plus it's barely 4K higher than Mystory's second week sales.
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This is depressing.
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C'mon Ayu, you can do it! *jumps up and down*
1,000,000 isn't impossible...just really hard right now. |
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lets say 3rd wk was ~90,000. so, 654k+90k= 744k. thats lower than MY STORY 2nd wk sales. this will take longer than MY STORY to reach 1m. but i hope it does. if it doesnt, the rumours will start popping up everywhere. |
Less than 100 000? *gasp* Oh my god.
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hmmn... let's assume ayu got probly 90K this week (No. 2)...
1st week --> ~420K 2nd week --> ~234K --> (654K total) 3rd week --> ~ 90K --> (744K total) 4th week --> ~ 60K? --> (800K total) hmmn... if from the 5th week onward (m)u can be sold at least 25 - 30K per week.. then it will take another 8 weeks (12 weeks total) to break 1 million sales.. That's not really bad.. of course... that's just the positive side... probly the album's sales are only 10K per week after 7 or 8 weeks.. so it will take longer.. maybe it can't break 1 million border... |
Uh oh...
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Just remember that MY STORY sold around 100k after getting out of the top 30. Maybe it will be also the case for (miss)understood and then get over 1 000 000 in a few months. =)
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^it'd be a pity if it would not. this album simply is awesome.
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i really think that the lower sales are really due to ayu losing her popularity and how kumi koda is rising to the top. i was in japan this winter right before around (miss) understood was released and i would say that the album was promoted very well. i heard 'heaven' a couple of times while walking down shibuya, while each major spots has atleast a couple of (miss) understood billboards. in tokyo dome they played ayu's (miss) understood cm on the giant outdoor tv repeatedly. also shops like hmv, tsutaya, etc has a huge (miss) understood section which you couldnt miss. i dont think ayu performing 'bold and delicious' alot is doing much damage too. ayu did promote her albums in tv live performances by mixing in her older singles like 'step you', 'fairyland', and 'heaven' along with 'bold and delicious'. also, even though you cant ignore the music piracy in the internet, the album is still very capable of selling over a million. just look at ken hirai's album and shuji and akira's single...they sold a massive amount of cds despite downloads through the internet. let's face it, ayu's not as big as she used to be. this day is bound to happen. im still a huge ayu's fan and honestly i dont think shes doing too bad. shes still having a no.1 streak, her music is still up to par, and shes still as georgeous as ever. also, shes still one of the most selling female artists and she's been on the business for about 7 years already. what she'll need in the future is a huge hit single. something that will make the typical non-ayu buyers buy the song just for the sake of them liking the song and not necessarily ayu. also, her tie ins needs to be other than panasonic. hopefully she'll get one with a hit drama or something.
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I really doubt she sold that little. If she did, I think she'd be a lot lower than 2nd for the weekly.
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I think this album can last long
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hrm. :dead2
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let's just cross our fingers and pray that more people would buy the album this week.
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also, japans cd market is doing quite well, sales have gone up btwn '04-'05 for both singles and albums. this is unlike markets such as korea, US where cd sales have gone down. |
I hope (miss)understood can break i millon...
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Whooaaaa...
(miss) is so low in sales!!! |
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WOW,,that is very disapointing.
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no. it's offical @ ORICON. that kinki kid got no. 1 w/ 92,000 copies. here's the link: http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/ranking/9265/
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happy-san from http://www.ayuloveayu.com/information_bbs.html says the 3rd week figures are 82731 copies...I wonder if it'll hit a million? :no
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I think people just don't buy as much cd's as they used to.
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I have to agree with someone who said that Ayu is losing her popularity to people like Koda Kumi.
For example I just watched Music Station Super Live. When Ayu sang Bold & Delicious people looked outright bored with that 'is she done yet' look but when Koda came out everyone was screaming and cheering. I don't know maybe it's just that particular target audience but I think we can all agree that Ayu has lost a part of her audience to artists like Koda this year. |
well... to be honest ayu has lost parts and parts of her audience since Memorial address era. I think her popularity dropped suddenly during A BALLADS release. I think the overexposure killed off some of the fans :P. Just like Orange Range. They were really popular in 2004, but they were too popular that people started hating them. Kumi may face the same disaster after the 12 single era (of course I assume her upcoming album will be a hit because those 12 singles could be included in this album).
Furthermore ayu's not producing music that appreciates the audience (I think she's doing sth to make herself happy these days). Like some people said in different threads, all ayu needs right now is a big hit, and the big hit should be released close the the next album. Then, ayu will be happy, and we will be happy... :D |
yeah..lately ayu release a stuff that she like not an audience like
but... I LOVE IT she is still strong and i believe her carier not going to end for 5 - 10 years from now |
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And then this forum's name would probably become Otsuka Ai Sekai. |
Otsuka Ai Sekai..? Hmmn.. probly "Avex Ladies Night Sekai" would be safer... :P at least ai chan, kuu, namie, and even boa are all included. no ones know the popularity of ai after a year or two... :P
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hmmn... lemme check.. before that I would like to point out that LOVE COOK can hardly become a million seller if (m)u can't be a million seller.. :P
edit: LOVE COOK sales: 334812 + 167321 + 167318 (2 weeks sales btw) = 669451 copies in four weeks... hmmn.. i'll say.. the min should be 800K overall, and max is 900K; need some miracles to push it over the 100 million border.. |
OH! 2 weeks sales, forgot bout the new year clause. Well you never know, Sakuranbo was in oricon for 82 weeks. :D If Love Cook does that, I dunno. But I'm confident that Ai is gonna do well! She already beat the sales for Love Jam and Love Punch.
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no way about change this forum name..if that happen i won't go here anymore...right now she has back to her number 1 position...so who know?!
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so sad that this album will not be a million selling album !!
i think she should not have used GEO of SWEETBOX ~ and should not have release Bold & Delicious at all ~ i mean .. everything was fine , her sales were fine until Bold & Delicious was released.. it was such a flop for Ayu now i wonder will ayu's next single sell 300k ~ i doubt ~ oh yeah but this could be due to I TunEs ~ :innocent hehehe is she no 1 at iTunes ? |
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oh yeah... the arena tour... that may help the sales a bit :D
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OK, you're overacting. I REALLY want her to sell over 1 million copies, which she probably will, but if she don't, she's STILL POPULAR. If she sells 900k, she'll still be a big artist.
Obviously not as big as she was before, maybe not as big as some other female singer, but with 400k in the first week she's still a huge seller. I don't think people should be so desperate if she don't reach a million. Yes, she's not as popular as before, but so what? That's past, we can't go back, Ayu is still selling extremely well for an artist (that's an IDOL SINGER) who released her first album in 99 and had her peak in 2000/2001. Even if she's not on the TOP 10 of the best-selling albums of the year. Some big artists in Japan aren't on the list. Some B'z album don't even sell 800k and they're still huge. Seiko Matsuda, the most popular idol singer in the 80s, don't release top 10-albums but she still does big tours in big venues and she's still always on mag covers. What I'm saying is, Ayu can stop being the huge-seller she was before (she's still a huge seller) but that doesn't mean she'll stop being a big star or, at very least, stop doing good music (that's cliche, I know) |
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With the tour, I hope she remains in the top 10 weeklies or at least the top 20 for a long time. |
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^who's Gorie??
anyhow, yeah I also think (and hope) the Arena Tour will boost the sales to some extend |
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Gorie is the new queen? LOL... that's really hilarious...
you should download "her" performance at kouhaku this year... it's the best one at red side IMO. |
*Punches the Kinki Kids outta any number on the Japanese charts*
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then the total sales for (miss)understood is 736.561 in 3 weeks.. and people are speculating a forum name change, and that Ayu is not popular anymore?.. how is selling 736,561 albums in 3 weeks a BAD thing...? |
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That's actually pretty damn good in Japan. |
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Brittany: its not really damn good, its more "average" for an a-list artist to achieve this amount. |
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So... you can say (miss)understood didn't outsell MY STORY because she didn't perform criminal at CDTV, but I personally think it's much more possible that some people just decided NOT to buy the CD. I really think ayu's popularity is fine right now. She can't be expected to outsell her previous albums everytime a new one comes out. She's still very popular, people. Also keep in mind that in terms of yen generated, she's still up there because (miss)understood was a more expensive album with the photobooks. That's no accident. |
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As for the touring, yes usually in the states an artists sales do increase but I've never really seen much of a correlation between Ayu's tours and her album sales. |
Good points. Personally I think she should have released a better single before (miss) understood. Bold & Delicious is a fun song but it does get boring. Why didn't she release a single for "In the Corner", "criminal" or "Ladies Night"? Also the covers took ages to sink in especially that monkey face photo. Honestly it sucks. Why couldn't she at least swap the photobook covers with the normal ones? The New York theme got old at once.
Thirdly she should have performed other songs. Personally I'm sick of Bold & Delicious performances. I really wanted to see some new songs instead of Bold & Delicious. Also I was disappointed to see that this album and it's booklet seemed without any concept/theme or direction which was pretty disappointing. The songs were excellent but the way they were presented weren't so good imo. |
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Yes plus let's not forget that Ayu is huge in Japan so bootlegs will probably be more available around than say other not so famous artists.
That is true nick but remember that Japan is more conservative than say USA in the music industry so being sexy is a huge thing there. I remember how people were shocked to see Ayu's LOVEppears cover. I also remember how when she performed at Kohaku and she wore a pair of shorts some guys in the off-stage were hilariously staring at her as if well.. you get me. So yeah Kumi's being sexy is actually getting her attention because few people have actually dared to be sexy over there. Plus let's not forget how avex is hyping her up with all these releases |
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Yeah =/ most people prefer buying cheap bootlegs than actual albums unless they're hardcore fans like us :P
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Yeah!And i can't hear the word koda kumi more.I don't like her!she have nothing!And i guess Ayu have much more talent.Her songs are from her soul!!!And you can feel how Ayu feel.Koda is only sex sells.And this is not my opinion.so I guess it is not importenet how much the Cd sells.It is importened what you think about the album and i don't think Ayu will stop!She didn't said so.She always said in Countdown mata rainen.And she will make her way.Go Ayu chan^^
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but with so many different bootlegs out there its getting really hard at times to tell whether something is real or not. thats why I hesitate to buy Ayu stuff or similar at Ebay, but prefer ordering it at YesAsia or CDJapan. at least that way you can make sure you get an original (I hope) |
Why do people think this is the end of the world? "OMG! No one in Japan likes her anymore! She's not popular anymore! Waaah!"
First of all, she's still very popular in Japan. No, she's not as popular as she used to be years ago, but yes, she's still one of the highest selling artists. She's been around for a long time, and to still be selling as well as she has been is pretty darn good, if I do say so myself. Second, people keep complaining about her sales. So, her sales aren't as high as they used to be. Times have changed in Japan. More people are buying music online through iTunes etc. Yes, sales have decreased, including Ayu's, but it's not just for her sales... It's everyone's. Even Utada Hikaru isn't selling as much as she used to. Does this mean she's not popular anymore? No. It just means people are finding other means of getting the music they want. And since we're talking about sales, I'd like to point out that Ayu has been doing extremely well. Her singles have done very very well. 300,000 consistent sales is great. B&D didn't sell 300,000 sales, but it did pretty good. 100,000 isn't bad! There are a lot of popular singers who don't reach 100,000 single sales every time they release a single, including BoA for example. Her last two singles had about 55,000 each if I'm not mistaken. Koda Kumi may be gaining popularity, but her sales are nothing compared to Ayu's. (miss)understood sold more than Secret in its second week. If I'm not mistaken, Koda Kumi's only number one album was her Best album, and that was also her only album to sell over 1,000,000 copies. So before anyone freaks out anymore about that matter, I hope you'll realize Ayu is still a huge icon in Japan. She's still very popular and she still has high sales. And about the weekly sales, I was pretty surprised at the sales. Not just at Ayu's though, but everyone's. Usually the #1 album of the week sells really well, but he didn't even sale over 100,000 copies. I actually think it was just a slow week because no one's sales were anything but outstanding. But I'm pretty confident Ayu will reach 1,000,000 sales soon. Maybe next week will be better. edit: found a typo @_@ oops, and another... I really should proofread :/ |
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Yeah!!!!!!!!!!Really great Post!!!!!You said the truth!!!!!Thank you paper bear
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I'm not quoting Paper Bear because it's too mcuh to quote but good point. The entire week didn't go well. Maybe people are just getting so caught up that they don't have time to go out...(like I am. Stupid finals).
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cd sales arnt really down if compared '04-'05, if they were then how would it be possible for "Seishun Amigo" to pass the million? or have 2x 900k+ singles last yr? or def tech selling 1.7m+ on their debut album? also, not all artists have declining sales, like otsuka ai, her sales have generally increased. as for BoA, shes not much of a "single-artist", shes more of an "album artist". besides i think shes like the rare artists in avex that doesnt release the dvd extra w/her single, unlike ai or ayu. so that definietly plays a role in her lagging single sales. BoA only releases a dvd extra w/her albums, thus higher album sales. |
^ The sales ARE lower than last year, the fact someone sold a million copies in singles doesn't mean it isn't. SEISHUN AMIGO was a HUGE SELLER, but back in the 90s, the whole top 10 sold over a million copies.
Ayu popularity is DOWN, with downloads or without downloads, she don't sell as much as she used to. I mean, her singles were always on the TOP 10 of the year, but they aren't anymore, they're 20th. Her albums were always on the TOP 5 on the annual sales, but they aren't anymore. Does that mean she's not popular anymore? NO!!! This mean she's not as popular as she was in the past, but she's still the biggest female singer. Bigger than Koda Kumi, much bigger. Bigger than Ai Otsuka. The end. And no 90,000 albums in the first place isn't so unusual, last year lots of albums reached the first position selling that. |
^well obviously 2005 sales are lower than 2001 or 1999 sales. thats y i said "sales are actually up if compared to 2004->2005".
dont know if it was directed at me, but i never said ayu wasnt popular nor did i deny that ayu's popularity is down. and also, not only is it because her popularity is down that caused the delcine in ranking, it is also because they r newer artists (last yr it was OR) coming out. |
Well, the CD created for Seishun Amigo was composed of a guy who was in a group who hadn't released CDs, and the other was a megapopular hottie guy in NEWS. Thus meaning that the two fanbases would collide together as well as new fans coming to buy it because
a) drama tie-in b) fans of japanese pretty boys c) song is stuck in head :D |
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And it wasn't directed at you. But it wasn't because of new artists that Ayu is not as popular as before, there are old artists in the top 5. |
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wow... iTunes... rockz heheheheh.... I think that it is hard nowadays to reach 1 million... if this album is released in the 2001-2002.. surely... I believe that this album wont only break 1 Million... but 2 Million is possible ^^
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yeah no one's saying Ayu's not popular but right now Koda Kumi's definitely MORE popular and talked about than Ayu. We are talking about declining sales for Ayu and increasing sales for Koda and Otsuka so there's always a risk that one day they eclipse Ayu's popularity. Plus, I think the only reason Ayu's still up there in the charts is because of her hardcore fanbase. She's not gaining new fans; why? she's too old to be an idol singer so teens won't start to like her; 30+ something probably listens to their B'z and Southern All Stars, not Ayu. So the only people buying her cds are her fans and very very few casual listeners. Her single sales are consistent because of her fanbase - she no longer makes hits like M or Seasons like she used to, and those hits are important to attract new fans. Anyway personally I wouldn't feel a thing if Ayu's no longer as popular as before I mean no one's popular forever, I'll be happy as long as she still makes music. |
Gakkun... did you know that it is adults and '30+' Japanese folk that are the main supporters in the music industry? Most children tend to not have any money to buy the physical CDs (mainly due to phone trends) so they rent or pay-download the songs. Ayu is still VERY popular in Japan. She was still EVERYWHERE when I visited, much more so than any other artist.
Also, ORANGE RANGE's hanabi single released in 2004 sold have outsold Ken Hirai's 'hitomi wo tojite' if it was released earlier. It has sold up to this date, only a few hundred copies away from 1 mil. |
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Again I'm not saying she's not popular anymore, I'm just saying I think she's no longer the 'in' artist right now and she definitely isn't as popular as before. |
What I wonder is..
who are all the people who go to Ayu's concerts then? :p |
I'm not a little sad.
Well I think one reason why MY STORY sold better than (miss)understood is that MY STORY has four covers but (miss)understood has only two. *,* What's more the covers are ugly. Anyway I hope her next album can be better and sell more. |
i think she should take a break for at least a year
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Oh, that's pretty low. I hope the sales will increase soon...
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