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Baernash 9th March 2006 12:42 AM

Curiosity details about Born To Be... PV
 
Today when I was watching Mika Nakashima's "BEST" DVD I've noticed something interesting. Idea on Born To Be... from the beginning seems for me familiar but I wasn't sure where I saw those choreography from PV before. After watched Mika's PVs - I remember :)

Most of elements from AYU's Born To Be... PV is very similar to PV FIND THE WAY of Mika Nakashima. Please don't think I'm posting it because I want to slander AYU that she's copying another stuff or something. I think this all similarity is accidental - I just want to share my awareness as curious detail.

Here r some screens I made:
Born To Be... is on the left side and FIND THE WAY on the right.

http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/9738/a14gs.th.jpghttp://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9697/m10ng.th.jpg
http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/9513/a24os.th.jpghttp://img125.imageshack.us/img125/8498/m22sm.th.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9440/a33rj.th.jpghttp://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1545/m36cg.th.jpg
http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/2999/a49un.th.jpghttp://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4096/m49px.th.jpg
http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/4817/a50mw.th.jpghttp://img354.imageshack.us/img354/1742/m58jt.th.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8575/a60gi.th.jpghttp://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9751/m64bd.th.jpg
http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/6097/a73aj.th.jpghttp://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5193/m72gk.th.jpg

truehappiness 9th March 2006 12:46 AM

The similarities were noticed when the preview came out a few weeks ago. Born to Be... probably has a similar 'idea' of FIND THE WAY.. despite the major lyrical differences, the lights are like.. symbols~ :p

Beyond the Sea 9th March 2006 12:47 AM

now THIS is when you can make a copying thread. I never saw this! Thanks!

orenji_jaro 9th March 2006 12:48 AM

wow same concept i guess... without the watery effect and mika's MV is very mcuh better cos it's not blinding.. it's not too bright! ^___^

Kikaru 9th March 2006 12:55 AM

I like Mika's PV better because I don't have to wear sunglasses, but not really sure. Are they executed the same way? because it is very easy to compare two videos with just screenshots.

Baernash 9th March 2006 01:25 AM

Sorry if something like this was posted already but I wasn't at the board for some time. Surely I'm not the only one who noticed those similarities.

Personally I like Mika's PV more because is more various (2nd part is in different climat with beautiful scenery). AYU's PV is monotonous and those yellow garish glaring lights irritate me - it's hard to saw AYU clearly (only some yellow contures r visable).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kikaru
Are they executed the same way? because it is very easy to compare two videos with just screenshots.

Yeah, I know but I wanna only show similarities. I made some screencaps from both PVs and then compare them. Most of them is take in the same order but some of them r various - just to show places where similarity can be visable.

PickleCookies 9th March 2006 02:04 AM

COPY COPY COPY!!

miracleofsuzaku 9th March 2006 02:13 AM

I noticed this before the PV aired and I expected a thread like this.
Mika's PV is better, of course. The brightness behind her is rational and it compliments the song pretty well. The lights in this PV embody hope, obviously. At least FIND THE WAY contains shifting scenes rather than having Mika singing on the roof for the entire duration of the PV.
Haha, seems like everyone's getting inspired from Mika's PVs these days. First, there's a Korean group called TAKE(Seppun vs Butterfly Grave), then BoA(SEVEN vs. Dakishimeru), thirdly Jolin Tsai(SEVEN vs. Jun Jun Yu Dong).

chibi_sunny 9th March 2006 02:29 AM

I wonder if Ayu knew about this or if it was purely coincidental?
Mika's song is a very slow ballad, so it wouldn't make sense to have flashing lights like Ayu did either. I didn't mind Ayu's PV that much; i actually kinda liked the bright lights.

sexysaucestar 9th March 2006 03:47 AM

Mika's is definitely less seizure inducing...

This concept is kind of generic actually...I'm sure there have been other stars who have had similar PVs like this and it's all coincidental.

nmskalmn 9th March 2006 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miracleofsuzaku
I First, there's TAKE(Seppun vs Butterfly Grave), then BoA(SEVEN vs. Dakishimeru), thirdly Jolin Tsai(SEVEN vs. Jun Jun Yu Dong).

I'd be curious to know who the directors of all these PVs are, if someone has that info. Born To Be... and FIND A WAY too.

AyuGAME 9th March 2006 04:06 AM

i think born to be has more powerful light and scene..
ayu use so MANY lamp..i believe she feel so HOT when shoot it

etheruraura 9th March 2006 04:22 AM

I'm sure its just a coincidence, both songs give off entirely different feels. Besides, Ayu's has that..half naked guy in hers, haha.

If you want to see a true copy of a music video, look at this Korean artists copy of Mika's "Seppun". (Mika's video is on the right)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../mikacopy2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../mika-copy.jpg

miracleofsuzaku 9th March 2006 04:33 AM

*****guys it's FIND THE WAY, NOT FIND A WAY!*****
Sorry, but I fret very easily when people get Mika's titles wrong.
Haha, the Korean group(the girl in that PV is just a model they hired) received permission from Mika's record company(or producer/director) and so technically, it's not "illegal."
Quote:

Originally Posted by nmskalmn
I'd be curious to know who the directors of all these PVs are, if someone has that info. Born To Be... and FIND A WAY too.

I don't know about Born to Be..., but I know that FIND THE WAY is directed by Masashi Muto. I'd be curious to know about Jolin's :rolleyes.

ImpactBreaker 9th March 2006 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miracleofsuzaku
I don't know about Born to Be..., but I know that FIND THE WAY is directed by Masashi Muto.

Really!? :eek There's a good chance it was him who directed Born to be... then. Because he directed several recent PVs for ayu:

-Ladies Night
-is this LOVE?
-CAROLS

truehappiness 9th March 2006 05:18 AM

Woah that's creepy. xD

I think that his style of PVs require small amounts of movement and subtle details, you know?

I think FIND THE WAY and Born to Be are only similar in that aspect.. :\ Plus Ayu's wall is much much larger xD

the angel song 9th March 2006 05:21 AM

I first remember that yellow light background from Linkin Park's "Faint" a few years back, actually. Don't know where the whole idea originated from, but it seems like it wouldn't be so hard to come up with.

cybermoomba 9th March 2006 05:23 AM

At least you can see Mika.

truehappiness 9th March 2006 05:38 AM

You know, there's probably a point to the brightness.. >> And no, not to blind people :p

darkswordz 9th March 2006 09:05 AM

Mika's one is not so bright when compared to Ayu's one. (Ayu's one was like 'flooded' with bright yellow light!!) I think i prefer mika's one :D

alternarist 9th March 2006 09:38 AM

i definitely like Mika's version as compared to Ayu's..

truehappiness 9th March 2006 09:59 AM

>> Remember that FIND THE WAY => NOT Born to Be..

They have similar backgrounds, but aside from that, you can't say that one has copied the other >>

Blaah.

hallelujah_united 9th March 2006 12:40 PM

Thanks for blinding me anyway. :D

Baernash 9th March 2006 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miracleofsuzaku
*****guys it's FIND THE WAY, NOT FIND A WAY!*****
Sorry, but I fret very easily when people get Mika's titles wrong.
Haha, the Korean group(the girl in that PV is just a model they hired) received permission from Mika's record company(or producer/director) and so technically, it's not "illegal."

I don't know about Born to Be..., but I know that FIND THE WAY is directed by Masashi Muto. I'd be curious to know about Jolin's :rolleyes.

Sorry for mix up "a" with "the" but I'm sure all know that "the" should be there.

Chinese singers r know very well from making covers and copying ideas from US or JPN/KR singers. It depend sometimes also KR singers... If TAKE wanna made PV exactly like "Seppun" surely she need to right for it but if someone making PV which is just similar then surely don't need any rights. I understand that some ideas could be interesting and some director want to use them but this wall with light was used also in some other PVs - of some western singers. I just think that from some time AYU working with wrong ppls - popular directors whos creating for many popular singers. I'm sure any of those directors have own style of directing and limited quantity of ideas so surely they will be repeated in another works.

I don't know who was director of Jolin Tsai PV - I don't know title like "Jun Jun Yu Dong" in her songs/PVs. Is there anyone who know original title (write in chinese)? Maybe I'll be able to find some info... :rolleyes

Mirai Noah 9th March 2006 06:15 PM

Interesting... I wonder it it really was the same director.

miracleofsuzaku 9th March 2006 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baernash
Sorry for mix up "a" with "the" but I'm sure all know that "the" should be there.

Chinese singers r know very well from making covers and copying ideas from US or JPN/KR singers. It depend sometimes also KR singers... If TAKE wanna made PV exactly like "Seppun" surely she need to right for it but if someone making PV which is just similar then surely don't need any rights.

It's okay but ummm...TAKE is a boy band. The girl in the PV is just a model they hired for the PV.

LacusClyne 10th March 2006 12:36 AM

well....at least mika's pv isn't that bright. i hardly manage to see ayu...

Hazuki 10th March 2006 01:36 AM

Mika's lights dont blind us like Ayu does :P

minkAYuko 10th March 2006 02:28 AM

the lights escene is very used anyywhere... why no1 said Madonna Sorry video?

from the caps ppl will think is the same and it.s not like Miracleofzasu Said.

I love mika and I didn.t put the 2 togehter is not the same.


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