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slashess 5th April 2006 08:11 PM

ayumi hamasaki's new songs...
 
Is it me? or does the new songs sound like she's ripping them off of...well, her own songs?

Because to me, the chorus of fairyland sounds exaclty like the chorus to Angel's Song, and Bold and Delicious sounds like AUDIENCE a little bit (the yaya gaga part)

so...anyone agree or disagree? I think she's running out of ideas...

Chibi_Venus 5th April 2006 09:04 PM

I will agree with the fact that she doesn't seem as awesome as she was maybe a few years ago, but I'm still holding on.

As I had said before, I miss CREA's compositions. Or even CREA + DAI! The last one like that was Will and that seemed like a long time ago.

Echoed_Memories 6th April 2006 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by slashess

Because to me, the chorus of fairyland sounds exaclty like the chorus to Angel's Song,

That's what I thought when I first heard fairyland!!

Neo Daydream 6th April 2006 12:20 AM

i hear similarities in the first line of the choruses of fairyland and angel's song but i don't see anything similar in B&D and AUDIENCE... what parts are u talkin about?

chibi_sunny 6th April 2006 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by slashess
Because to me, the chorus of fairyland sounds exaclty like the chorus to Angel's Song, and Bold and Delicious sounds like AUDIENCE a little bit (the yaya gaga part)

so...anyone agree or disagree? I think she's running out of ideas...

I knew that Fairyland's chorus sounded similar to some other song!
:shakehead But i have to disagree on B&D and Audience.
Ayu has like way over a 100 songs. Some of them are bound to sound similar to something else, however annoying that might seem.

elepop 6th April 2006 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by slashess
Because to me, the chorus of fairyland sounds exaclty like the chorus to Angel's Song, and Bold and Delicious sounds like AUDIENCE a little bit (the yaya gaga part)

I think that's just you. LOL.

ExodusUK 6th April 2006 12:35 AM

I'm probably going to get flamed to death but yeah I've noticed that sometimes. Is it just me but are M and Free & Easy pretty much the same song? o_0

Raiu-Ayu 6th April 2006 12:49 AM

I never noticed this before. Maybe she's just linking her songs in some way, like the way Britney Spears has that annoying drum-ish should in all her songs.

benslave4u 6th April 2006 12:58 AM

well I have to say ayu does keep her "safty" songs!! But then for the last few singles she has been trying some new and dangerous ones like Bold&Delicious!! so I think I have to say yeah she is not as awesome because she is trying to find her new style but I think the reason people think the songs sound similar I think it's because it's her safty songs!!

truehappiness 6th April 2006 12:59 AM

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It depends on the person. xD

imho; the whole 'nee kimi wa~' is not at all like 'ano umi e~~' :o

Most of her songs are radically different for me. I guess I confused HOPE OR PAIN and Liar a lot.. but that's like.. a trilogy of songs that sort of go together.. ~_~

/falls over

Ryoko 6th April 2006 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ExodusUK
I'm probably going to get flamed to death but yeah I've noticed that sometimes. Is it just me but are M and Free & Easy pretty much the same song? o_0

I don't seem the resemblance.

Just a note guys, you can't blame it on Ayu for any songs sounding similar. It's the composer.

ImpactBreaker 6th April 2006 01:01 AM

As much as End roll is simillar to Bold & Delicious in my opinion.

theprojectzero 6th April 2006 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker
As much as End roll is simillar to Bold & Delicious in my opinion.

HAHAHA!!! XD Are you really serious? It's totally 2 different type of songs! Hahaha...

ImpactBreaker 6th April 2006 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by theprojectzero
HAHAHA!!! XD Are you really serious? It's totally 2 different type of songs! Hahaha...


LOL not really. It's because I can't see much simillarities in fairyland/ANGEL's SONGand AUDIENCE/B&D either.

bluegie 6th April 2006 01:33 AM

For fairyland and ANGEL's song... you can say the melody is sorta similar... But for AUDIENCE vs. B&D vs. End roll, I just dun see any connection between those three..

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Originally Posted by ExodusUK
I'm probably going to get flamed to death but yeah I've noticed that sometimes. Is it just me but are M and Free & Easy pretty much the same song? o_0

I think most people have talked the similarity between M and Free & Easy when the latter song came out. The melody is similar, and even the arrangement is similar (in terms of verse, verse, chorus, chorus blah blah). So you won't be flamed to death... LOL.

ImpactBreaker 6th April 2006 01:45 AM

Free&Easy sounds nothing like M

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Originally Posted by bluegie
But for AUDIENCE vs. B&D vs. End roll, I just dun see any connection between those three..

you got most of my point then ;)

Ayumi no Yume 6th April 2006 01:45 AM

I see no resemblance whatsoever.
Even if she were ripping off her old songs, come'on, she's released... what, 100+ songs already?

elepop 6th April 2006 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by theprojectzero
HAHAHA!!! XD Are you really serious? It's totally 2 different type of songs! Hahaha...

It was sarcasm. LOL!

Plus, "B&D" and "AUDIENCE" are also two totally different type of songs.

Hazuki 6th April 2006 02:54 AM

Maybe some songs could ressemble each other.. But dosen't Ayumi have like.. A LOT songs?!

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Originally Posted by Ryoko
I don't seem the resemblance.

Just a note guys, you can't blame it on Ayu for any songs sounding similar. It's the composer.

:yes I agree with you.

Ayumi no Yume 6th April 2006 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryoko
Just a note guys, you can't blame it on Ayu for any songs sounding similar. It's the composer.

Ayu sometimes composes.

alternarist 6th April 2006 05:42 AM

haha.. fairyland and ANGEL'S SONG are only similar to a limited extent!! its only the first line of the chorus that's similar! and both songs sound totally different.. and ayu had Bold & Delicious cos she liked the songs from SWEETBOX right? so she wanted to try it out.. it came out to be a pleasant surprise isnt it? i dont think an ayu fan should keep condemning their idol's songs..

walking proud 6th April 2006 10:20 AM

I always get fairyland and angels song mixed up in my head.. :[

hallelujah_united 6th April 2006 12:52 PM

I think they're decent enough, though I have to say sometimes they do sound a bit repetitive.

But STEP you was a blast, and so was alterna.

Queen Bee 6th April 2006 02:46 PM

fairlyland slightly sounds like ANGEL'S SONG but that's a big slightly. As for Bold & Delicious sounding like part of AUDIENCE, they sound nothing alike.

Megshere 6th April 2006 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayumi no Yume
Ayu sometimes composes.

Yeah, Ayu does compose some of her music. I wish she would do it more, the last ones she has composed though are Will, winding road, and Humming 7/4. As for Audience and B&D sounding similar, I dont think so. Angels song and fairyland... maybe one or two verses and I geuss because the music is fast in both songs, it may sound more alike.

Chibi_Venus 6th April 2006 09:50 PM

Yeah when I first heard fairyland, I actually saw the Music Station or Heyx3 (don't remember) performance, and I walked away from the computer singing "nee kimi watashi ka ni". It drove me crazy and I just couldn't remember fairyland at all!

I do agree that since she's had at least over 100 songs, you can't really expect them ALL to be completely different, right?

Ryoko 6th April 2006 09:51 PM

Ayu sometimes composes her own music, but she's not a professional so we can't expect her to come up with a completely different melody to the song every time she composes something.

Plus, the majority of Ayu's songs are not composed by Ayu.

nmskalmn 6th April 2006 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibi_Venus
I do agree that since she's had at least over 100 songs, you can't really expect them ALL to be completely different, right?

I think Hamasaki has quite a lot of variety in her music compared to some other artists with the same number of albums .

I hear similarities in some of the CREA songs, but I never thought the songs mentioned in the first post sounded the same. :shrug

truehappiness 7th April 2006 02:09 AM

I also think the arrangers need to be taken into account xD

Whee~ ANGEL'S SONG is probably just as sugary as fairyland is [at least I think so] which is why people think they sound similar :\ [sort of like how a lot of people were like 'ew dearest = heven' when it came out]

LacusClyne 7th April 2006 02:12 AM

^not really. dearest tune is more simple then Heaven. i do not like Dearest that much, but i do prefer Heaven.

Ayumi no Yume 7th April 2006 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by nmskalmn
I hear similarities in some of the CREA songs, but I never thought the songs mentioned in the first post sounded the same. :shrug

I thought the same thing.

walking proud 7th April 2006 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness
I also think the arrangers need to be taken into account xD

Whee~ ANGEL'S SONG is probably just as sugary as fairyland is [at least I think so] which is why people think they sound similar :\ [sort of like how a lot of people were like 'ew dearest = heven' when it came out]

No. It's literally the SAME NOTES FOR THE FIRST LINE OF EACH CHORUS. There's no "probably". They are. The. Same. Notes.

alternarist 7th April 2006 04:30 PM

its only for that few notes.. its not enough to say that ANGEL'S SONG sound very like fairyland..

Neo Daydream 7th April 2006 05:51 PM

^ true dat!
itz gonna happen! there's only so many notes that are possible to use in this dimension!

cucumber 7th April 2006 06:42 PM

HAHA, i mixed up Startin's chorus with INSPIRE's chorus when i first listened to Startin'.

PURIN 7th April 2006 07:02 PM

actually i dont think the notes are the same
plus the tempo is different?

*Petit* 7th April 2006 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PURIN
actually i dont think the notes are the same
plus the tempo is different?

They are the same. Not through the entire chorus, but the beginning of it ( the first note and third and fourth notes I think). This is a measurable fact, not opinion, just like feet, centimeters etc. The tempo is different, sure and the songs aren't the same, angel's song isen't as nostalgic as fairyland, but the beginning of the chorus' are the same.

I don't think it matters, but considering that ayumi picks the melodies herself, it's not that strange that some of them end up sounding similar, she is one person with one taste in music, just like all of us.

Larisa-chan 7th April 2006 07:53 PM

I know that the chorus from Born to be... and Fairyland are like the exact same in the beginning part haha..

Also, I remember people complaining that UNITE! was just another Evolution, except worse ;)

Raleigh 7th April 2006 08:08 PM

Not really. Some songs might resemble each other but none are exactly really the same. Some remind me of other songs but only as hints.

alternarist 7th April 2006 09:01 PM

^ the only 2 songs that resemble each other slightly are.. ok i have to admit... ANGEL'S SONG and fairyland.. but others sound so different from one another..

evolution = UNITE! ?
Bold & Delicious = AUDIENCE ?
Dearest = HEAVEN ?
Startin' = INSPIRE ?

oh gosh..

truehappiness 7th April 2006 10:19 PM

Blah, who cares really xD

Her songs are her songs. They're different, but the way we see them really depends on who we are and how we hear the song :\

Some people might think B&D sounds like STEP you.. x.x It all depends on the listener imho. [And with many singers/artists with 100+ songs.. there's probably a few songs that sound sort of similar in some instances.. right? >>]

ohsixthirty 8th April 2006 03:22 PM

sometimes i think her songs do remind me of her other material...especially fairyland and angel's song. my main problem with her new songs is that although i still like them, they aren't nearly as addictive and i find that it doesn't take long before i'm tired of them.

hallelujah_united 9th April 2006 02:44 PM

When you start finding so many songs that sound similar to each other, you know that you're spending too much time listening to music. :innocent

Hachimitsu 9th April 2006 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hallelujah_united
When you start finding so many songs that sound similar to each other, you know that you're spending too much time listening to music. :innocent

Lol, you're so right. I think Born to Be sounds too much like something I've heard before, but Startin' sounds really new and fresh. And I love the sound of her latest album, I think it's really different from what she's done before.

maxwell 10th April 2006 02:24 AM

I think it is not that bad now. Last time, when i listened to her albums, (esp I am...and Rainbow), i can never know when a song end, when the other start. ok, i admit i wasnt that much into Ayu last time, but still the songs sound more similar as compared to now. though, yeah, i hear similarities in Fairyland and Born to be...

extepan 11th April 2006 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by slashess
Because to me, the chorus of fairyland sounds exaclty like the chorus to Angel's Song

I completely agree. they sound so similar.

i do think ayu's new songs cannot compare to the old songs. the dividing line for me is Rainbow. Pre rainbow songs are good, post rainbow songs are mediocre.

And i keep thinking that No Way To Say also sounds like some other song, but i dont know which. maybe it is because no way to say is so formulaic.

pbs1605 11th April 2006 06:56 AM

I am sort of lucky,I am newish to Ayumi,so everything is quite fresh and new for me.

Ayumi no Yume 11th April 2006 07:21 AM

Though, why should we be complaining?
We aren't the ones who have to compose, nor do we have to write lyrics.
All we have to do is listen. And THAT's a choice.
I'm sure not even 1/4 of the people here could actually compose a good melody unlike others. Let alone a melody at all.

M_aria 11th April 2006 12:38 PM

the lyrics leading up to the chorus of fairyland actually reminded me of the lyrics leading up to the chorus of SEASONS

alternarist 11th April 2006 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayumi no Yume
Though, why should we be complaining?
We aren't the ones who have to compose, nor do we have to write lyrics.
All we have to do is listen. And THAT's a choice.
I'm sure not even 1/4 of the people here could actually compose a good melody unlike others. Let alone a melody at all.


haah true! no doubt ayu's past compositions are better than the current ones. but if ayu keeps on doing the same old thing over and over again, wouldn't it be too boring for her? no breakthroughs at all..

ayu-marco 14th April 2006 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by extepan
I completely agree. they sound so similar.

i do think ayu's new songs cannot compare to the old songs. the dividing line for me is Rainbow. Pre rainbow songs are good, post rainbow songs are mediocre.

I like the latest songs much more than the past songs since I like rock style

I also think chorus of fairyland has little bit similar to that of angel's song
but I extremely like fairyland

emi♡ 14th April 2006 10:33 AM

so now Ayu copies herself...and yet again...I CANT BELIEVE IT!!!!OMG!!!Why would Ayu do such a thing.....

her quality of music has been going down for years and now it has hit an all time low...awww everyone think of RAINBOW...

I dont really think that specific sequence of notes is enough reason to say that the two songs are similar, only because, i dont think that Ayu's music is all "black and white" you really have to look deep sometimes, and they are two just very different songs. I think that its possible that the fact that the notes are the same could have to do with the specific key the song is in and the chord at that particular time...

and lets face it...Ayu (let alone the composer/arranger) probably doesnt even remember Angel's Song, or any of those other songs unless it was something like Boys and Girls.

truehappiness 15th April 2006 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by emikotogawa
so now Ayu copies herself...and yet again...I CANT BELIEVE IT!!!!OMG!!!Why would Ayu do such a thing.....

her quality of music has been going down for years and now it has hit an all time low...awww everyone think of RAINBOW...

I dont really think that specific sequence of notes is enough reason to say that the two songs are similar, only because, i dont think that Ayu's music is all "black and white" you really have to look deep sometimes, and they are two just very different songs. I think that its possible that the fact that the notes are the same could have to do with the specific key the song is in and the chord at that particular time...

and lets face it...Ayu (let alone the composer/arranger) probably doesnt even remember Angel's Song, or any of those other songs unless it was something like Boys and Girls.

Copies.. herself? O_o

Wha?

alternarist 15th April 2006 03:21 PM

^ with regard to the music.. but it reminded me of alterna PV though..

Torches 18th April 2006 01:24 AM

When I first heard Inspire, I thought it sounded like another song of hers, but I forgot which one. I know it wasn't Startin', and I thought this before the release of (Miss)Understood.

emi♡ 18th April 2006 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness
Copies.. herself? O_o

Wha?


just some humour...since ayu seems to copy everyone these days...

StaRR& 3rd April 2008 12:36 AM

I guess i can see how angel's song and fairyland sound the same..
but definitley not B&D and audience. those are like...soo different.
and B&D was composed by sweetbox..so you cant really blame ayumi

che0173 6th April 2008 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by chibi_sunny (Post 717927)
I knew that Fairyland's chorus sounded similar to some other song!
:shakehead But i have to disagree on B&D and Audience.
Ayu has like way over a 100 songs. Some of them are bound to sound similar to something else, however annoying that might seem.

yup i agree you
after making hundreds of songs
its just impossible (well literally), to make new songs which dont sound a single bit similar to other songs!


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