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Koda Kumi shocking interview on YouTube
Remember this thread that was locked without any good reason?
So yes, many people PM'ed asking if the interview was on video and it is on YouTube. Thanks to MaiK from Uwasa for uploading. Go here for the videos playlist. There's 5 parts and I think that's not the whole special, just Part I of 3. For the mods: Can you please not make this news part of the locked thread? Because lots of people asked me and if it's there, I think not many people will see. |
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Oops... I forgot the most important part. Thanks Micster.
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Thanks for the link micster!
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Thanks so much! but can someone rip it? it would be really really appreciate =)
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ha ha the evil moderators are foiled again power to the little people
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could someone translate this, or maybe just the interesting parts. All i understood was that it takes her 2 hours to do her makeup and stuff haha! but she always looks so good so maybe it's a worthwhile sacrifice...
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There's already a thread with some parts translated. See the link on the first post.
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I'm surprised, the quality didn't come out as bad as I thought it would! :yes
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PLEASE SOMEONE DO SUBS OR TRANSLATION!!! i REALLY REALLY WANNA KNOW WHAT SHE'S SAYING...AND THE KIDS CRYING IN THE CLASSROOM WHEN KUMI ENTERED...SO TOUCHING!!!
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I don't believe many people in this board really know japanese (for the lack of real translations around here), so maybe that's not the best place to ask for subs?
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or maybe just a raw translation of the main talk part? so that others will get an idea.
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Is there a good picture of Kuu when she was younger? I'm curious to see how "fat" and "ugly" she really was (I'm betting she's not, and they're just being nitpicky though..)
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Ohhh wow! Those were pretty cool, loved the re-enactments! She is so sweet to those school girls <3!
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she really is the new icon. the way those girls reacted to seeing her, i doubt that ayu's had that kind of effect on people...and the Grand Taishou to top it all off. and now she's beaten KinKi Kids. i don't think it's the greatest thing in the world, and i wish she would cover up a bit more, but i must say that she has worked hard to get where she has and it's nice to see how happy she is. i have to say that i'm happy for her. she is such a nice person. it's just that ero kakkoi image that i really don't like. it's too bad, because i know she probably won't ever shed that image because it's what got her where she is now. but i do miss the old kuu back in the real Emotion/Cutey Honey days...
anyway. just to put it out there, I'm not a jealous ayu fan, and i don't dislike Koda Kumi. I'm not a fan of her ero kakkoi image, and I don't think her music is SPECTACULAR, but i do enjoy some of her songs. no hard feelings if i put off any kuu fans. thanks for posting this link. -WHEW!- |
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Thanx for sharing...jeez..
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Thanks for sharing! Well, if someone would be kind enough to sub the videos? Then we could find out exactly what Ku was saying.
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Wow I hope a translation comes out soon.
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Yeah I think that she is my icon, its true that my fave is Amuro but the way she is...she become my idol...think of her as a not perfect girl, that had to fight much for become popular and was not perfect but also overweight before debut..she is human, I know everyone is but that human part of her never gone, many idols look like perfect dolls but she is always human and natural, I like her for that...and I enjoy her music much, to tell the truth I think Ayu's music used to be better and original before and now I think she lack of originality and Kuu didnt reach that originality Ayu had but I really like her =) And thanks so much for the YSI links xiaou-xijiang! ^°^ |
what is ero kakkoi?
I'm sure it means sexy... but what exactly is the literal meaning & translation... |
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Oh, btw, can people just stop saying my translation was sensationalist? If you want a perfect translation, I suggest you to learn Japanese or Portuguese, so you can look the real one at Uwasa.
It's not sensationalist. Max Matsuura called Koda fat. Maybe Max called her chubby, but the translation from the japanese word is "gorda" (I'm 100% sure) and the translation gorda is fat. So don't scold me for saying Max said she was fat, because he did. Plus, there's a more especific translation of what he said later on the thread, so look for that. And there's anything sensationalist on them. Actually, there's most of the info in the other recaps and more, so stop saying it's out of proportion or misleading because from what I saw people translating, it isn't at all. Oh well, that discussion is over. Now, let's hope someone decides to sub that. |
i see that those loaded on youtube isn't complete? that's another episode right?
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1 - Kinki Kids - 239.000 2 - Koda Kumi - 207.000 Bad news for Ayu though as that makes Koda's single the highest opening sales for a female artist this year and its total sales will likely surpass any female single released this year so far. Very interesting video though. Thanks for the link. It helped me understand Koda better. |
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Nossa sorte é que traduzindo diretamente do japonês para o português, não perdemos muito o conteúdo!! valew hein! |
i can read portugues.. but cant write it :P
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^Oh Ok then, my bad!
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WOAH, alot of interesting scenes there. i only wished that i knew what they ewre saying exactly...
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The fighting spirit that all these artists have never ceases to amaze me. It's Kuu in this case, but really there are so many others out there who have had to go through really terrible times to get to where they are today.
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Once, I read an english article about a japanese AVEX female artist who never suceeded. She was pretty and all and she tried very hard, but she didn't had any hit and so she had an eating disorder and tried suicide and then give up on the entertainment world (I find it during a random Google search and unfortunetly, I didn't bookmarked it)... I think that's very common... |
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her second single was released in March and it only sold around 1,500. It fell out of the oricon 100 in a week [She should be happy i bought it] |
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EDIT: Sorry to bother you again, andre2907 but I would like if its possible to get an higher quality version of the special of Kuuchan, I like it very much and I wish to get a better version =( Isnt it possible to ask this kind person who upped it on Youtube to up for download? |
I don't think it's neccessarily "bad news" for ayu. remember, this is 4 hot wave, it's supposed to be THE koda single. To me this seems like Koda's "A" or something. Ayu has only released "normal" singles this year, the decision to change BLUE BIRD from another triple A side to what it became was probably the wisest decision this year, as she ended up having almost comeback sales with a normal single. 4 hot wave 'll probably end up like mika nakashima's GLAMORUOS SKY single did, the special female solo single selling a lot. The past years since 2002, in which ayiu's H was number one overall, she hasen't had the top female single. The difference IMO from this situation to the past years is that koda may have more staying power (if her general sales became like koi no tsubomi) than f.ex ai otsuka, ayaka hirahara, mika nakashima had. But we won't be able to see that before a couple of more singles and the album is released. If the same thing happens to Koda like it did to f.ex ai and mika, and ayu's single sales are more or less consistent, ayu willstill be the top single selling artist, because all ayu singles tend to sell more or less a very well. (remember that B&D was the fourth single of 2005, making the total single sales for ayu in that year even higher than for 2004) If koda consistently has sales like koi no tsubomi with her normal singles, then I agree that her position as most selling female is "threatened". Of course it is bad news in general that her singles are moving down the yearly chart (which is probably what sunshine slayer ment, right??).
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^ Ai Otsuka is still selling very well and her singles have very consistent sales, with two since Sakuranbo going over 300k (SMILY and Planetarium).
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I've seen the early pics of Koda and I would have never classified her as "fat." |
Big deal if she didn't get #1, coming so close to KinKi Kids is a major achievement already!!! If you look at the sales... its like
1. 239k 2. 207 3. 50k that's a 150k+ gap... I think Kuu's proven herself don't you?! You guys have to take it into account... KinKi Kids have been around for like decades, Kuu's been around for 6 years, 5 of which were unnoticed and 1 year of being noticed. I think we should commend her for her hard work and for getting to this level... Even Oricon was unsure, they worded the news article carefully saying "it is a matter of time before they get their 23rd consecutive single"... unlike with Ayu's BB and KAT-TUN where they said it will "definately" take the #1 spot.... Kuu posing such a threat to such a big name in Japan is already amazing, let's just be happy rather than saying it "bleak" for not selling as well because it was a 4-A Side single |
Ah, the Koda kumi fans are out to get me :D haha, just kidding...
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1. koda kumi is the hottest jpop artist right now (arguably) 2. the single is a quadruple a-side single. that's the equivalent of mr. children's four dimensions single and every little thing's untitled 4 ballads. almost all 4 a-side singles by reasonably very popular artists in the past have reached the weekly number one. plus, koda kumi's single has bonus intro, interlude, and outro tracks. 3. her main competition was a single with 2 b-sides (i think) from artists who aren't as big as she is now (especially with the success of second session) 4. the single was heavily promoted and marketed, almost to the point of insanity in theory, koda kumi should have taken the top spot. i can understand koi no tsubomi not taking the top spot (it had only one a-side and three tracks in total)... but not 4 hot wave's performance. again I am not criticizing koda kumi. i am just trying to express why i'm surprised and why i think this is not a good thing for her career... andre2907 - given all the above, i think the positions are more important especially since sales this year seem lower than previous years :) but we have to see how the single performs in the long run... if it sells as well as glamorous sky, then all is well... |
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Anyway, it doesn't matter if it's 1 or not. Sakuranbo never hit one. What really matter is how much it sold in the long run... |
If someones want to see the old Kuu before debut go there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuAs0...ch=koda%20jeun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUhfo...ch=koda%20jeun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydcAV...ch=koda%20jeun and the Morning Musume short one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaLNh...umi%20audition dont ask me who is the girl who sing with Kuu bcs I dont know =( and its not Misono... |
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On a different note though, if this single has the staying power of the average morning musume single... It's not so good. I don't really knowabout how much wow-promotion it has gooten, because i'm not in japan, but it probably won't have the same staying power as koi no tsubomi if what everyone is writing is true. Generally I agree with what you are saying though, I don't know how much the common japanese care for sales and details like that. This is koda's most anticipated single ever and it fails to hit number one, like shadowpuppet wrote. Quote:
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2. Yes, but these artists didn't have competition that Kuu had. Also, they were already well established in the industry, and labels already know that they have to avoid them. 3. No, her main commpetitor was not 'a single with 2 b-sides from artists who arn't as big as she is'. Her main competitor was a group that has been out at least 8-9 years, and all their singles have placed #1 since 1997. And not to mention, the word 'Johnny's'; that word alone boosts sales. I think you are really underestimating the power of a) fangirls, housewives b) KinKi Kids themselves and c) Johnny's Entertainment as a whole. There is a reason why Johnny's is by far the largest talent agency in Japan and a reason why Johnny Kitagawa is one of the most powerful men in the entertainment industry. 4. Regardless of the promotion that '4 hot wave' had, KinKi (and other well established Johnny's like SMAP) fans still overpower anything and anyone when it comes down to singles. Plus, they perform in their own TV shows which are high rated itself. Kuu was never the favourite to win. KinKi was always the favourite. So in theory, KinKi is supposed to win and they have. I don't understand how her not getting #1 is not good for your career. Hikki has singles that haven't hit #1 and her career is doing just fine. BoA has only 1 #1 single and her career is doing well, Otuska Ai only has 2 and her popularity is growing basically with each single release. Ranks arn't really all that important. STEP you/is this LOVE? placed 19th on the yearly charts, ranking lower than INSPIRE and ranked the same as CAROLS yet STEP you/is this LOVE? sold more than INSPIRE and CAROLS. *** About the Otsuka Ai thing, I think her sales are growing by each release. So far she's matched/outsold Ayu twice. Sakuranbo>No way to say and Planetarium = fairyland. |
wow i never knew kumi's mother created her stage name *o*
max matsuura doesn't seem to speak bad about Kumi... even she seems very happy when he talks about her... i really would like to know what says the tv special.... >_< |
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Oh! And I got the line that Max Matsuura said from the video!!!! I got my Japanese teacher as well as a Japanese friend of mine to translate the line and both got exact (or nearly) same translations. Quote:
She sings well, but she is fat* that we can't say alot about her looks. *the actual word is fat, but you would never say it in that manner, so it's interpreted as "chubby". |
Me too...and in the special you see also Misono's debut...she is cute since debut thats good...and the pics of the baby Kuu and baby Misono are so cuuuuuuute ^^
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Lol, she speaks so fast. Very clear, but still very fast. I think I will have serious trouble understanding Japanese.
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^^Yea yea lol..i heard this interview in HF too.=P
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Well, I must say that this interview did change my opinion about Koda. I misjudged her because of her ero-kakkoi image - she's a nice girl after all. I feel bad that she was told that she was fat and ugly, when she was just average looking.
Avex can be quite harsh with their artists, isn't it? They were a bit with Ayumi on that "A Best" time... |
What did they do to Ayu on her A best time?
And yeah Avex seems to be very severe with their artists.. |
But they (avex) always support their artists, even if they're going not so well...
in the beginning avex kept releasing singles and albums of kumi even when she was failing in the charts and sales with every release |
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Koda was the one desperately wanting to be a singer remember? Avex was the only one willing to pick her up at all. Like in most fields of life it's about giving and taking. Koda isen't a victim or anything, think of everything she can thank avex for (which is.. hmm, every tie in she had to make her popular (who knows where she would've been without cutey honey), composers, arrangers and um, even the idea of her ero-kakkoi image which has gotten the blame for a lot of her popularity now). I'm not saying it's good or whatever, but that's the business. Some busienss' are harder than other, showbusiness being one of the hardest. And koda was the one desperately wanting to be in it. I'm sure she's thankful for her popularity now, at least she should be. Because along the way there are so many people helping out. and those people are hired by avex.
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^ I agree. Plus, Koda Kumi story is one of the few with a happy ending. Most just work work work and never succeed.
Anyway, I don't think AVEX forcing Ayu to release an "A BEST" is that shocking. And seeing how she agreed to do billions of magazine covers, I think she didn't care as much as she said. And I don't believe at all when she said she tought it was her last album. Hello!? There's no way she would go out of AVEX in 2001, she was half of their profits... |
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Well, I just watched the parts of the video and there doesn't seem to be anything too polarizing in it so far (will wait to see the 2nd part).
As Psychotic_X said, Matsuura said that Kuu was chubby but nothing else that is that controvesial. Everything so far looks like any other music documentary. |
^ It's true. The video really isn't as scandalous as most people would have it. Max Matsuura, as much as I'm not sure if I particularly care for him or not, said nothing horrible, and the terms "very fat" or "very ugly" were never spoken. He said she was chubby, and that's it.
As far as Avex pushing their artists, even when they aren't selling well... that's because producing artists costs millions of dollars (or 100s of millions of yen). The company ONLY makes a profit from their initial investments if the artist releases like crazy and sells well. Whereas most companies would just drop an artist if they flop, Avex's philosophy is to fabricate something of an image around them, squeeze as much out of them as possible, and then let them do whatever they want until they have new artists to make up new revenue. |
that's because the first part is not important at all...
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Yeah, I noticed the documentary is cut in two pieces. The 2nd isn't up on YouTube, though, is it? I'd really like to see it. Kumi is really very interesting; I like her very much as a person.
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I don't find Koda's story at all sad or anything. I think it's mostly HER pushing herself and that's about it. D: I wonder what'd happen if Koda was on toshibaEMI or like Sony... |
The point is: if in 2001-2002 Ayu decided to quit, she would take Avex with her. A whole record company. And I don't believe that was really an option.
About Max, the word is "fat", but in english it can be translated as "chubby". Anyway, in my opinion, I don't think it's nice to call people fat, even as a joke, because they get mad, unless they have a big sense of humor (most people don't). It's not very nice to say that she was fat, as a joke or not (and it wasn't a joke, because of course we know that's AVEX opinion), after all she had inferiority complex for a long time (the first-part is all about how unhappy she was when she was "fat"). So Max wasn't nice, anyway, it isn't ok to call people fat "as a joke". |
Well, she kinda was, wasn't she?
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Well think about it..
Would you want to put someone on TV who most of avex probably thought was chubby? [I'm sure Max wasn't alone in his thoughts] And even then if you put them on TV, they probably wouldn't sell much anyway...? I think it was in order to save money even though it was a bit 'rude' D: |
Yeah, but I think the problem was calling her fat on national television.
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Yeah...at the rate that avex is pushing her, they're not going to leave her much lasting power...
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The 2nd part is up here. And no, they won't subtitle this in English.
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like the rumour of 7th single. that is kinda too much for her....
it seem to me that Avex is just getting kuu's popularity into their heads...no good. they just want to make fast cash now...i think they don't want to risk the chance to get more money into their pockets now that kuu's the IN thing. bad Avex |
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Well, supposedly wasn't the ero-kakkoi supposed to boost her career out of the dump it was pre-LOVE&HONEY? :/
I mean she really didn't do that well with affection and onward until secret :/ |
yea it was supposed to..
But look, COME WITH ME was the start of her sexy look and that failed.. Crazy 4 U didn't do so well either... if all she needed was a sexy look then why did those 2 singles fail? |
maybe those 2 songs aren't that much of a hit????
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that's not the point LacusClyne ... =P
The point I'm trying to get across is, that if Koda Kumi is "only" popular because she has a sexy image, then why did those singles fail?! Yes, it helped but her music is good and her singing has improved... Yes I have seen an episode, but the anime's always been like that so it was no shock to people. The song's always been the same, jus different arrangements... |
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I was told that Japanese are kind of like that. As in, they’ll tell you if they think you’re fat. My old Japanese teacher was teaching English in Japan and a teacher told her, “Michelle, You’re looking kind of fat now.” I don’t think it’s meant to be like “pig” and it’s just a cultural misunderstanding for us? Koda obviously wasn’t fat, she had a chubby face but I’d hardly say she was fat.
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It’s one thing to succeed and another thing to succeed, fail and then succeed again. Kuu beats Hamasaki on that level. |
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Her sexy image isn't the only reason she's popular, but lets be honest its good selling power. And Avex will exploit that. :shrug Its not necessarily a bad thing, so why are you annoyed? |
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I'm annoyed because people think Kuu is simply popular because she took on the sexy image.. That's partly true but mainly its her music.. her music got better so she got better sales... I was just pointing it out to those who are just ignorant and just base what they see on her looks... |
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^I agree. They're spoiled now. Ayu is like their machine. She sells like crazy, and they rake in a bunch of profit. Now that they've seen what they can earn with her, they aren't gonna let her go so easily. And they probably will be fine without her because they still have good selling artists like Koda Kumi and others on the field so I don't think that they'd screw themselves over without her but with her they're making that much more.
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I think the reason she is selling better now is that she took charge of her career. The Ero-Kakkoii thing certainly helped her, as she now ranks at the top of polls among the girl most Japanese guys want to sleep with, and the girl most Japanese girls want to emulate. But I think what makes her a great, well-selling artist now is really a combonation of Avex sudden willingness to promote the crap out of her, and her own recent take-charge attitude, bringing out more of a personality (whether or not it is her own) which these guys and girls can take a liking to.
Before that happened, she wasn't much more than an Idol; another doll strung around by a record company, releasing music just for the sake of having some sort of additional, underlying income, while the real stars did as they pleased. |
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yes i don't think thats ever been done yet...
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