[article] Too costly to stage Ayumi?
 

J-pop queen skips S'pore on rare Asian tour
Too costly to stage Ayumi?

bummer :no

sign...i'm so damn sad now:( ...me and my friends really want her to come here man...seems like i'd have to sacrify and fly to japan to watch her live~btw sg concert organizers,how do they know that we can't afford her concert tickets man!they didn't even try first...and rain precisely isn't that popular as ayu over here...they should consider bringing ayu in man...at least for a promotion for A BEST 2~i really hope that she will come here at least for some promotions~:yes

If the Arena stage is too expensive why didn't they think to do a CDL-like concert in Singapore... less expensive and good for fans !

It's true, although I'm pretty sure Ayu is heaps more popular than he-who-must-not-be-named. God, I hate him.

Would YOU pay $888 to see Ayu? Personally, I wouldn't pay more than $150 for a good concert ticket.

On the bright side, at least Gwen's stopping by SE Asia for her tour. A local newspaper said that there's a good chance of Gwen coming to Malaysia! :D

sorry but seems singaporean are getting envy on us :D

woah, did rain's concert cost $888>??? dear lord. why did people attend that concert then. you probably would be better off flying overseas

Yea...! totally agree with that. If people can spend S$888 for that Rain, i cant see why people cannot spend S$999 for Ayu. She is much more famous than Rain @@ I'll be the first one to buy her tix if she ever comes to Singapore T__T

i really want to see her...singapore is my last hope..but...yeah there is really small chance that she won't go there
i feel weird too that she not come to korea, i think korea is near japan and she has a lot of fans there

" $888 (a benchmark set by K-popster Rain) "

WTF?

i saw this article..

teenage fan base...if thats the case...why is the news paper telling us to visit the other countries when we are having school??

and one more thing, nowadays, Ayu can be found alsmost eveyrwhere in SG newspapers and magazines...tats gd

No, she doesn't. If you go to any big CD store in Korea you won't find any Ayu CD (but Gackt, Mika and Koda Kumi have their CDs on sale).

$888 is a bit too steep for a one-day performance, unless itz a 3-day concert? But then again, it depends the concert. Like perhaps goody bag with her exclusives cds stuff etc, then worth considering. In short, more value-added.

But I would try to raise $888 if she ever comes. But it would be more economical and practical to go Hong Kong. Market in sg seems small compare to Taiwan, China, Hong Kong.

Kinda glad I went to see Ayu during MTVAA 2002. But regret being unable to see her perform "M". Her red kimono top n jean combo is plain cool.

I would let Ayu go on her merry way back to Japan if she tried to rip her fans for $888.

Woah, dun think Ayu will bear to do that, I'm sure =) It just ain't her style.

i'm sad for singaporeans cuz singapore is prolly like ayu's biggest non-japanese fanbase. i'm really really sad that she's going to taiwan in march!!
> x <

i really wanted to see ayu in the summer =( and i may not even get to go to japan...

Agreed. She has common sense AND style ;)

wow, RAIN concert $888, maybe if Ayu had a concert in Singapore around the 2001 or 2002 era she could have set a bench mark as high as that

Ayumi is 28 not 29 as stated by the article! Anyway sucks for those who can't see her!

... I think that it's just b********** ! I mean come on! sponsoring exists ! I don't understand that they can't find sponsors to decrease the ticket price and be sure of the sales !
I'm not living in Singapore BUT I'm frustated for them !

It sounds pretty stupid. There woulden't be too much trouble to arrange a smaller concert.

$888 for a concert? Rain's an idiot.

Honestly, I think a lot of you are being really naive in your complaints. Ayu is, above all else, a business. She can't just do a smaller concert, because she'd still lose money. In the past she said the reason she didn't want any Asian tours is because she would want all of her own staff, but it's incredibly expensive to transport and house them all in a completely different country. So the fact that she's going anywhere other than Japan right now is pretty amazing.

A smaller concert just wouldn't bring in enough revenue to justify the costs that would be spent on it.

wow $800 for a concert?! no way I'd pay that much!!
I wish I could go to Shangai on the 22nd April just 4 days after my birthday!! I wonder how much the tickets cost?

I'm sorry for the Singaporean fans who hoped Ayu's Asia tour would bring her to their country. :( $888, that seems like a pretty crazy sum.

WTF? Why is he an idiot? Because the tickets were $888? He's insanely popular, not an idiot.

Yes, because the tickets were $888. I don't care how freaking popular he is. Paying close to $1,000 for a concert? That's a freaking rip-off. You're watching someone sing, not buying a computer or a plasma T.V.

Thing is, lowered ticket prices would probably bring in more money than higher ones - more people who might want to attend could afford to do so. By having prices that high, he makes less than he could with lower prices. Who does he think can afford to do that crap?

^Yet wasn't it still sold out? The power of fangirls/housewives shouldn't be underestimated...

EDIT: Just want to ask, if the tickets were officially priced at SG$888 or was it because of the limited number of tickets, the highest people auctioned the tickets off was 888?

I did'nt like the article just because they got the age wrong.

Oh my gosh wow... Madonna was $350 for the BEST seats, and Rain is $888?! That is ridiculous! If he can get people to pay it, though, good for him.

Correct you are.

lol and I thought Barbra Streisand was bad at $700 for tickets >.>

The figure in the article is SG$888. That's about US$575.

Still way too expensive. I'm shocked Rain (or any pop singer for that matter) tickets cost so much.

Rain and whoever needs to get over themselves.

imo I don't see why Rain is the "idiot". It's the fans that are buying the tickets. If few fans bought those tickets, then he would have cancelled the concert altogether, which I don't think has happened.

Partly because I think he's gonna lose popularity slowly but surely due to such high prices. Seeing the actual numbers skal posted (what they convert to in the U.S.) is less outrageous, but still very outrageous, as she (? She, right? Right?) said. Also, what makes a concert so freaking great that you think it's okay to charge nearly $600 for it?

Meh...I don't even like him. But I know that girls/women will pay anything to get close up seats to see him because of his sex appeal.

For those prices they should be able to have a quickie with him backstage. Individually.

Haha, that's exactly what I was thinking. :rolleyes

dude.. i couldnt even spend $300 on nickleback tickets (that would get me back stage with them ect..) i couldnt spend like $575 on tickets just to SEE her.. from gods only knows how far away my seats would be??

it's still impossible. see, singapore is a very small country, the sponsors can't be sure of how many people will go to her concert and how many people can afford the money.
Average ayu's fans ages are from 14 to 25 years old. these group are mostly students, they don't have the money.
then let's not forget that ayu's pay are VERY high!!!! higher then Rain, and ayu always bring her own team and production team, those cost a lot of money.yes, the cost are highly then Rain. therefore, the tickets WILL be higher then Rain's
secondly, most of Rain's fans here are around 23 to 50 years old. they earn more money, they can afford to go.
because there are lazy Singaporeans who prefer to see Rain here in our little country.
well, in Singapore Rain is more popular then Ayu. the korean craze is VERY strong here.

that is the original price set by the organisation. the following are the other ticket prices

all prices are in Singapore dollars
Standard - S$488, S$388, S$288, S$188.

Source
the sponsor had to set the ticket this high.....because they had to get back their cost money.
and Singapore is so small, they won't be able to know how many people can go. and the concert is only for a night.

I am going to Hong kong... Any1 interested?

but also I'm pretty sure not every AYu fan can afford $888 for a concert ticket AYu has a big fan base I know I could never afford that. I'm sure alot of people can't either they shouldn't make the ticks that much they could be way cheaper. This is just a way to make money...

oh not cool for singapore =\....I know there are a LOT of her fans there >:[...they should totally drop like taipei~

but....i'd SO go to one in singapore/china if it was near my b-day/summer :D

Lacus - Thanks for your insight into the prices and general info about Singapore's concert sales. I hope it'll stop the "he's stupid" comments. There's a lot of money and work that goes into concerts, especially for big sets for a small tour.

What, so we're not allowed to express our opinions of high concert ticket prices? They're invalid because they don't mesh with your views?

It's fine if you have a valid reason to go along with it. I didn't tell you to not say it, I was hoping to stop it from becoming a thread littered with "Rain is stupid/not popular/etc" posts. It's not the performer's fault that the SG organizers won't import Ayumi's tour for being "too expensive" and they don't set the prices either. The SG$888 I guess is the highest price per ticket but it wasn't the only price.

It would be the closest possible to the stage.

no ayu for Singapur then...

as much as it'll be great to go to an ayu concert
im not going to go overseas just to do so...

guess it's gg for me then.

that's a shame...

is the price for a ticket there really equivalent to $888!!!! That's incredible! Is there anyone in the states even that high??? WOW!

:thud :thud :thud :thud

@@ wanna faintz reading this...

again, i think LacusClyne has repeated herself many times... S$888 tix is only for people who have contacts. So, generally, the highest price would be S$488 in general.

Well, I am definately not pro-Rain or wutsoever, but wutever price that he set, I dun really give a damn care. If u like him, go ahead; if u dun, why bothered by that? Go for Rain because of his sexy appeal? Well, its just his style. Who cares?! Ayu is sexy too, look at Born to Be single DVD + CD cover, that one makes my nose bleed.

Ayu can also set S$999 tix for VIP, wanna buy is up to u. Anyway, I would definately hope that Ayu will come to Sg one fine day~ May be fans from Malaysia would come to Singarpoe and watch her concert too, I think the organizer had forgotten bout that.

sigh~ i just hope she will do a world tour soon... or do a longer tour.. the time of the tour is just.. not very convenient to many people.. if the fan is based on teenagers/students like the newspaper suggested.... rite?~~~

i want to go see the concert~~~~~~~~~~~~

i guess ayu would want to do a show with her whole setup and not to have that stuff would be taking away from her performances? it makes sense but it sucks at the same time.

thanks for realising this. i thought i might had to type that at least 10 times for people to understand that.
i'm getting sick of people screaming at the price......
yes, i do hope ayu will have another Asia tour and come to singapore.
that's why i'm crossing my fingers hoping that Rain's concert will be a sucess. because this is the first time singapore had such a costly concert, if he sucess. ayu has a chance!
and looking at the ticket sales, it's pretty good! 80% is sold out!

So sad that ayu won't do the concert in Singapore.
I'm sure if she tour to S'pore,not only fans from S'pore but also fans from Malaysia and Indonesia,like me, will attend to her concert.

Yeah, we shouldnt put other artists down just coz we'll supporting Ayu. I'm sure Ayu wun want us to do that either.

If Ayu comes sg, we'll go for sure! If not, we'll find some other way then. There's a way out somehow =)

Kyomiayu, u going to Ayu concert in Hong Kong in April?

LacusClyne, thanks for all the interesting info but I don't agree on a few things.

I don't think her payment is bigger than Rain because Rain is a popular act in almost every single country in Asia and organizers would probably do anything to have him to do a concert in their country (and he also have much more experience in worldwide tours, so the organizers are sure the event will sell). He also do concerts in bigger stadiums while Ayu will make her concert in arenas for about 7,000-10,000 people (in another asian countries, that is, not in Japan), and if you do a concert in a stadium you're obviously getting more money than if you're doing in an arena.


Isn't probably cheaper to buy the $800 tickets than paying for a flight ticket + accomodation + transportation + tickets for another concert?

I think he is more popular than Ayu in every Asian country (besides Japan, obviously). He stars in dramas and Kpop is bigger than Jpop in most countries, so...

ahhh....they could've just made it a smaller concert or something.

Hmmm, gd points there... Haha sigh...

i kinda misplaced my sentence,
i meant to say that ayu's concert FULL cost(ayu's pay, and her whole team) turns out to be higher then Rain. not to mention ayu's stage costs is already higher then Rain.

yes, it depends.....
sometimes, staying in hotels can be quite costly, unless you stay with someone. that will cut down your costs.
but honestly speaking, if you take the effort to go oversea, you can still have a nice vacation.

yes, he is. i know too many Rain's fans all over Asia.
but since we're talking about the situation in Singapore. i'm just stating he is more popular then ayu HERE.
there are people who know Rain, but not ayu.....

ya. But i dun know how to buy concert ticket... You wan to go? Any1 have some Ayu hong kong forum?

i dun agree that rain is more popular than ayu just bcuz tt the korean craze is super strong now~but most of the people over here are still listening to ayu's music~and i think that ayu is way more popular than rain~please flash back to 2002,where almost everyone over here listen to ayu's music and till now most of them are still buying or listening to ayu's new album...and ayu's new album beats rain and is still on the no.1 spot over here~anywya that's just my opinion,hope i didn't offend anyone..

^About the album thing, that could be because Ayu's release is more recent than Rain's? Ayu's was in late November while Rain's I think was October-ish?

Um. It wouldn't hurt to make a concert less of a production.

Going outside of your country to perform cost a ton and requires a lot of work. There is a lot of little things such as VISAs and the such to take care of. If there isn't a huge demand for the star to come to another country, it is a HUGE waste of money just to tour for one or two days in one or two cities.

yah i know that there are lots of promotions in train station etc. over here now~hmm maybe you're right~but judging from what i had observed and the no. of years ayu had been gaining her popularity over here,i still think that ayu is more popular than rain~if she comes here for a concert,i'm sure pp will be able to afford it(and fans from nearby countries too)~i mean she has lots of fans age 20 and above too~and some pp will be curious for sure how does the "jpop queen"'s concert feel like in real and go and watch her concert~

Looks like there is a debate in between hiroshi ben and LacusClyne here.

In my humble opinion, in the case of singapore (i m stayin in singapore oso), i think Rain is definately gettin more n more popular. Concerning about the crazy Rain promotions, i think its because of Rain's concert??

and i kinda dun really fully agree when people says Rain has a range of older working fans and its more than Ayu. I still think that the people who craze after Rain are those school girls (obviously, there would be also many working women who like pretty boys too). While Ayu is a longer singer (previously young fans would have grown up by now?!) should have a range of more variaty of fans??

^I think housewives should also be added for Rain's fanbase.

Actually, it would.
People expect an Ayu-quality production when they go see Ayu.
Even a-nation, she pulls out all the stops.

If she's gonna go overseas, she's probably not going to just casually do some concert in the middle of the city or something :\

Hmm, time will tell =)

The larger concert, as in more people, the lower the cost, I'd guess.

Well, making it less of a dramatic production doesn't necessarily mean the quality of her concerts would lessen. I'm sure they can think of alternative ways to make the show exciting, yet less expensive.

oka fter raeding the article.. i sorta understand why ayu didnt come to singapore.. i shall accept it.. *sighs*

just cross our fingers and pray that she will come to singapore next time.
i think she shd have came to singapore during the 2002 times when she was at her peak. i think fans were willing to pay a high price to cover the cost...
sigh sigh


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wahahahahaha:dead2

kinda true :yes

if you have a ticket and you dun go, then u r real stupid lo...
emm... Rain is good performer, i agree. Not many people can dance like that.
but Rain's success will be a pioneer to other J or K stars to perform here. As in, there would at least be some guideline and add up organizers' confidence.

AYU PLEASE COME TO SG NEXT TIME!!

well, maybe it's untrue?
it's not official, just an article

$888!? That's kind of too much.

Whieee
why ayu why do u have to cost a lot

exactly.... :grumpy

Well then they would have to re-arrange everything like the stage and maybe equipment size just for the smaller concert in Singapore... They may not think it's worth it.

I think that for Ayu, it's not worth it to just do a small concert.

Maybe for BoA or AAA.. but definitely not Ayu. If she was just gonna go to be there, she'd just do what she did during Daybreak and "promote" >>

Bah, I wish she comes.

Singapore is too poor?

Ah...im wondering why Singapore can spend the money on others...but now her? bah

that's so rite... :grumpy

That's too right :thud

wut to do
T___T

stop whining! Ayu will come to Singapore in the future :yes we must trust her again!!!!!!!!!!

well now i dun really wish she comes to singapore for concert. even if she comes to singapore to promote her albums i will more than happy!!! just hopes that she makes appearance in local variety tv shows or taiwan's variety shows will be good.. to have a concert in singapore really means that she has to re-arrange a lot of things and means more work... and more money i think.. i believe it is not easy to plan to have so many people to travel together... i mean ayu's team and staff is so huge!!!

Do you think the singapore local concert organisers will ever have plans to bring Ayumi in in the future??

I think the word "too expensive" will be carved in their mind forever.
If the local organiser itself do not have plans to bring Ayumi in this year, what makes you think that they will bring her in next year?
Plus, with the rumour or the fact that her popularity is decreasing? :headache

It is stupid enough for the local organisers to not try and bring Ayumi in to Singapore. Once in a lifetime, even though the ticket cost $1000, i would probably still go for the concert.

AYu! COME to ANYWHERE NEAR INDonesia!!!!
I'll PAy anything to Watch You!!

it could be too costly. or it could be that the organiisers are not confident enough to sell enough tickets. after all, the population of singapore is half of that of hong kong.

if they dun wanna bring her in now. most probably they wont do it next time, not in this near future at least. In addition with her bad rumours lately

sigh~