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[Charts+sales] A BEST 2 Thread 2
I'll keep this thread updated =)
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Daily DATE - Black - White 02/27 - #1 --- #2 02/28 - #2 --- #1 03/01 - #2 --- #1 03/02 - #2 --- #1 03/03 - #2 --- #1 03/04 - #2 --- #1 03/05 - #2 --- #1 03/06 - #3 --- #2 03/07 - #3 --- #2 03/08 - #3 --- #2 03/09 - #3 --- #2 03/10 - #3 --- #2 03/11 - #3 --- #2 03/12 - #3 --- #2 03/13 - #9 --- #8 03/14 - #9 --- #8 03/15 - #7 --- #6 03/16 - #7 --- #6 03/17 - #7 --- #6 03/18 - #7 --- #6 03/19 - #7 --- #6 03/20 - #7 --- #6 03/21 - #13 --- #11 03/22 - #8 --- #7 03/23 - #8 --- #7 03/24 - #9 --- #8 03/24 - #9 --- #8 03/25 - #9 --- #8 03/26 - #9 --- #8 03/27 - #19 --- #18 03/28 - #18 --- #16 03/29 - #14 --- #13 03/30 - #14 --- #12 04/01 - #14 --- #12 04/02 - #12 --- #13 04/03 - #20 --- #19 04/04 - #20 --- #18 04/05 - #18 --- #17 04/05 - #19 --- #18 04/06 - #19 --- #15 04/07 - #19 --- #17 04/08 - #19 --- #17 04/09 - #17 --- #15 04/10 - n/a --- n/a 04/11 - n/a --- #19 04/12 - n/a --- #20 04/13 - #20 --- #19 04/14 - n/a --- #16 04/15 - #20 --- #17 04/16 - #17 --- #14 Weekly Week - Black sales - White sales #1# - 470,057 (#2) - 475,284 (#1) #2# - x97,354 (#3) - 101,894 (#2) #3# - x44,239 (#3) - x46,634 (#2) #4# - x21,349 (#10) - x22,667 (#9) #5# - x13,265 (#16) - x14,168 (#15) #6# - xx8,339 (#18) - xx8,783 (#17) A BEST 2 sold: 1,323,933 copies (654,603 black / 669,330 white) A BEST 2 shipped: 1,900,000 copies Monthly MONTH - Black - White March - #3 --- #2
Weekly J-pop Week - Black - White #1# - 23.81% (#2) - 24.66% (#1) #2# - 13.00% (#1) - 12.31% (#2) #3# - 13.15% (#2) - 11.95% (#1) #4# - 8.65% (#2) - 10.29% (#1) #5# - 8.94% (#2) - 9.90% (#1) #6# - 7.00% (#2) - 7.43% (#1) http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8...neslogozj6.gif country - Black - White Japan --- #2 --- #1 http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8691/logousenzb9.gif Week - part of Me #1 --- #18 #2 --- n/a Records -1st time in 36.5 years that a female artist has occupied #1 and 2 in the album charts. -TOP 2 highest 1st week album sales in the 2007 CALENDAR year. -TOP 2 highest selling albums in the 2007 CALENDAR year. -1st time female artist as both the #1 and #2 in the United World Charts |
[Charts+sales] A BEST 2 -- THREAD II
2007年03月13日 付
WHITE No. 8 and BLACK NO. 9... That's not surprising.. What shocking me the most are 1) Mr. Children's HOME sales indicator is 139008... If that times 1.6 or 1.8, the first day sales is like 220 to 250K.. I suppose it will be the year no. 1 (currently).. 2) Kuu's Bounce and Lovers indicator is only 29508 @@.. That's really low consider kuu's popularity... it's like 45 - 55K copies being sold. I know this album is limited (350K rite?), but I thought at least 1/3 of them should be sold on the first day... Anywayz.. I hope WHITE will jump back to top 5 tomorrow or so.. |
3月13日付デイリーアルバムランキングTOP10予想結果
○ 1位 Mr.Children「HOME」 ○ 2位 倖田來未「BEST~BOUNCE&LOVERS~」 ○ 3位 中島美嘉「YES」 × 4位 EXILE「EXILE EVOLUTION」 × 5位 マキシマム ザ ホルモン「ぶっ生き返す」 × 6位 HOME MADE 家族「FAMILIA」 × 7位 東方神起「Five in the Black」 ○ 8位 浜崎あゆみ「A BEST 2 -WHITE-」 ○ 9位 浜崎あゆみ「A BEST 2 -BLACK-」 ×10位 安倍なつみ「25~ヴァンサンク~」 Haiz... battle begins again |
2nd Weekly Ranking and Sales
2. A BEST 2 -WHITE- 101894 3. A BEST 2 -BLACK- 97354 |
Looks like everyone is selling really low.
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yeah except Mr. Children. If first day sales = about 50% of the weekly sales, it implies HOME may break 500K on the first week.
I understand that Mika's YES may be selling quite low (since her popularity decreases compared to MUSIC era).. but kuu.. I'm just very surprised by the outcome.. |
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I thought Nana has been a good boost for Mika even if this album has nothing about Nana, not rock album but a ballad gospel album. Quite original I think. |
oh.. Mika's last album --> MUSIC.
and I dun think NANA would help Mika that much considering low sales of both NANA/REIRA singles + not much hype of the movie during last year. NANA 1 was a big hit but NANA 2 wasn't. (wait you're in Japan now rite? Was NANA 2 a hit or not?? I didn't hear much news from it compared to NANA 1..) Anywayz.. I just hope that there will be 50K for each BLACK and WHITE.. you know, lots of people buying other albums and they won't have much money left for A BEST 2 this week.. :P. |
considering the popularity of ayu in asia area,
the sales of ayu's albums of ORICON only can tell us her popularity in japan, not asia they dont know how much her album could sale in china or singapore.... |
thanks for the info!
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I find it unfortunate that they only show indicators for the top 3, and not the whole list... But I guess A Best 2 will go up again, most of the new albums (that are not in top 3), usually drop a few places through the week.
But, both A Best 2 reached 500K+, which is 1+ Million :D Go Ayu! (but Mr. Children has always been strong anyway) |
so are number 1 albums counted as daily or weekly number 1?
if it is counted as weekly, then blac is the first non number 1 album ayu has ever released. |
Ahh the better thread for A BEST 2 stat hehe. Thanks for the update Rody :D
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All Ayu's studio albums are #1, remix-albums and compilation albums such as these 2 don't contribute to that record. ah, bluegie beats me with alot of things today, whaha :P Anyway I now changed the stats to show the actual weekly sales aswell as the sum |
oh... i never intend to beat you Rody (or anyone) LOL... :D
I guess avex never wants both BLACK and WHITE to be no.1 in the beginning... If so they would not release A BEST 2 on 2.28. |
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It's not usual for an artist to release 2 albums on the same day. And Ayu has already got so many No. 1 albums, so this time the goal is to break the record instead of two No. 1 albums. :D |
c'mon A best you can do better than this...
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What? I thought Kuu would be #1, didn't know Mr.Children was releasing on the same day.
I hope the 2 A BEST 2 stay in the top 10 at least! |
I guess the sales for A BEST 2 might be doubled if sales from Asia and the rest of the countries are added in.^^
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hahahaha.... no:P.... really; don't overestimate the non-japanese sales.. they really don't change much. we're talking about 10,000s rather than 100,000s |
let's use A BEST sales as an example.. about 4.3 million copies sold in Japan and 5 million copies worldwide... that means only 0.7 mil copies being sold outside japan. Remind that the cd sales were still quite good during 2001..
now back to 2007.. i dun really think A BEST 2 would be sold over 0.8 mil copies outside Japan rite at this moment... it would be lucky if 200K being sold in asia during these two weeks.. |
i'm soooo happy for ayu! well-deserved!
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#8/9? Sad. At least she gets 600K each. This was an expensive best too!
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The slip is quite drastic, but I think indeed, the cost could possibly have been one factor. One of the most expensive CDs released on the market till date! I think people are probably burning or downloading it off illegally (but well, that seems to apply to all artistes) Nevertheless, these are truly fantastic figures for a SOLO female artiste! And not to mention each of these songs are truly GEMS!
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Oh Mai Gosh!!!! :thud
its number 8/9 today! :headache :( drop suddenly :grumpy let's go to CD shop tmr and buy all her CDs tmr!:dead2 |
OH WOW Mr. Children is going insane!! That's crazy!! 139 thousand copies in one day!! But still I believe ayu did a really good job!!
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Yup it's a huge drop indeed, #8 and #9! Thanks Rody for the update! This looks neater. Thanks for your effort. =)
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Lets not look at individual sales and celebrate the fact that A BEST 2 sold 1.14 Million copies!
And I wouldn't worry about the drop to #8 today.. There were tons of new releases in front of her including Koda Kumi, Mika Nakashima, Mr Children, etc. Even Exile went down to #5.. This always happens on a week when there's tons of new releases but I believe that it'll likely climb higher soon especially with the two tv lives tomorrow |
Why did the 8/9 go away right when i was going to show my friend..
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I bet her A BEST 2 asia sales would be much bigger than her first one.
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14 March 2007 Ranking@Oricon Japan
#8 A BEST 2 -WHITE- #9 A BEST 2 -BLACK- |
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Err ... i have neverread it sold 5 million worldwide ... i have heard it sold 6 million world wide. and Ayu's popularity has really grown since then ... so even if nearly 1 million [or 2] was sold worldwide for A BEST i think many more would be sold now! and anyway, it was just realesed in more countries@
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go mr.children!! |
Sales have dropped alot since the early 00's due to illegal downloading getting very popular! She's done well to say it's 2007 =]
*claps to ayu* |
The last double album release that I know of was Spitz' 2 BEST albums last year.
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I know Mr Children is very popular, they make very good songs. I did not listen to their new release, is it that good ?
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Thanks for the info.
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For 3/15
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wow, two positions up! I thought that was almost impossible in the Oricon charts :P another record? LOL
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Yay, two position up! This week sales are quite low... I thought Kuu's album would sale better. But it is limited right?
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^Yep.
I think maybe this week it will sell 60k each? |
60K each.. hmmn.. that's kinda low.. too bad there're many new releases this week.. :no
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it jumped up! weeeeee!
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she has to maintain whatever drop she has in order to get that mill..haiz..
if it sells as much as Secret, i think we could say both albums are equally loved?..u noe what i mean |
[16/03/07]
1. HOME - Mr.Children [35498] 2. BEST~BOUNCE & LOVERS~(期間限定生産盤)- 倖田來未 [10261] 3. YES - 中島美嘉 [8987] 4. EXILE EVOLUTION - EXILE 5. ぶっ生き返す - マキシマム ザ ホルモン 6. A BEST 2-WHITE- - 浜崎あゆみ 7. A BEST 2-BLACK- - 浜崎あゆみ GO AYU!! GO GO!!! Source : ORICON =) |
Go Ayu Go, Go Ayu Go, Go Ayu Go!!!!
Wow! kuu's is shocking, I was expecting BEST BL to sell 350 000 in it's first week. I wonder if people are finally getting sick of her gimmicks. |
A BEST 2 = total failure. :no I so wish it would have sold well....
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And Utada's FOL seems to be VERY close to BUT/Aishou |
WOOT!! Ayu gogogo!!
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and it seems like Hikki will beat kuu this week apparently... :yes |
Limited releases never sell out when they chart on Oricon (i.e. Ayu's limited singles, Mr. Children's FAKE, Kuu's 12 singles etc.) The only exception I've seen was 'Fly high' but that was like 400 short of the 300,000 limit.
I also read that Kuu's single is also a limited release as well. |
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Let's put Koda Kumi out of this, shall we?
For now A Best 2 is selling well, compared to other artist. But I expected so much more from her Best albums. All the hype created and then selling about 600k each...Maybe I'm expecting way too much. Her A Best 1 sold like 4 million copies, right? |
A Best has sold well over 4mill, but that album was from Ayu's megapopularity period, right?
Considering the fact that the DVD versions of this album is quite expensive, and that she's not the "wow"-artist anymore, I think they've sold quite well. They're also quite high up (and no.1 until recently) on iTunes musicstore. |
i agree. i never expect ayu's A BEST 2 will sell like a million each in the beginning. I was just hoping each may sell to a point like 700 to 800K. BEST albums usually have longer legs so 700K shouldn't be a problem. I just kinda hope each will have 750K at least.. so combined sales will be 1.5 million copies, which is really good for ayu and nowaday's sales.
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I don't think it's fair to say that A BEST 2 was a failure, since each album is part of "one whole.."
And to sell a million of each EASILY.. you'd have to be Mr. Children.. [Their two bests released on the same day both got a million in their first week.] It's kind of like, Ayu's trying to "beat herself" in sales, when there's no real point in doing so.. The units sold TOTAL is what's important, not the amount for each best >> |
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There have been lots of new releases this week, jeffycue
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Someone looks like they forgot to read the "WORLDWIDE" on top of that chart. >>
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ohh. LoL... my bad.
i was rushing in skimming through... hahaha.. |
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There's no doubt tho Mr. Children's selling power is better than ayu nowadays :yes. And I must agree that A BEST 2 ain't a failure. :yes |
If any other artist were to pull out a dual-album BEST compilation, I'm sure that sales would be similar to what Ayu got..
There's no real way that any artists other than B'z or Misuchiru would be able to get higher than 400-500k first week for each best.. |
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I think I got your point, but I think that "any" other artist wouldn't be able to sell half as much as this with a dual best release, apart from the ones you mentioned and of course Mr Children and maybe SAS. I doubt even Utada could do it atm. |
Hikki doesn't have enough songs to use right now anyway.. [unless she pulls a "ballad" or R&B best out of her butt >>]
She put all her singles into the one pre-BML, right? So she has to wait probably like 2 or 3 more years until she can do another greatest hits compilation... It'll be interesting to see how Japan reacts to Ai am BEST.. |
Im also waiting to see how well ai am best will sell. I would like it to sell well as I like ai and some of her songs but the album doesnt have cd only version and the cover doesnt have her on it...those 2 might effect sales...but this IS her first best album and it contains her hits. Hopefully it will sell more than love cook.
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I'm also curious about Otsuka Ai's BEST. I have a feeling it won't do too well, but I hope I'm proven wrong.
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My guess for it's first week is between 600-900k..
Due to the utter value and the inclusion of Sakuranbo AND Planetarium.. |
Right now, I don't think it will be that high. I say 400k.
EDIT: Went onto Amazon to see the album's rating - 2.5/5. I think people are pissed that none of her new singles are going to be included. The only thing that makes people want to buy is that her PVs are finally going to be released on 1 DVD and also the LOVE MUSiC PV. |
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It doesn't seem that Ai am BEST is charting too well on sites..
HMV - > #5 Amazon -> #7 CDJapan -> #3 Neowing -> #7 |
^Isn't it 7th on HMV and not charting in the TOP 20 for CDJapan?
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ha ha ai otsuka flopped she was an baka to put Ai am Best out without any type of promotion. A-BEST 2 is not a flop why do people keep saying that? even though im not an ayu- fanatic its still wrong to say that. I mean 2 albums at the same time is kind of retarded alone it would have hit at least 2 mill i think.
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^ Er Ai am Best hasn't been released yet and if it does then it won't be her fault but avex's if she's not promoted. Anyhow I agree to the fact that Ayu's BEST 2 did well though imo I expected it to sell more.
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Yeah A BEST 2 is such a total failure. I mean, 1.1 million cds sold is so bad.
*sarcasm* |
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I dont think releasing A BEST 2 in one album will sell 2 million copies. I actually think avex was wise to release it seperately. For someone like me, I purchased both versions...but if it was released as one, I would of bought 1 not 2. The sales of both versions are reallly close...so I think if A BEST 2 was 1 release, it will just sell little more than one of them now. but if A BEST 2 was released as one (cd only and cd+dvd minus the extra concert dvd) and the price is cheaper like a regular album, it might sell a little bit more. I think the aim for the A BEST 2 is to promote ayu in asia along with the asia tour to expand her fan base. I think they succeeded in making the albums topped the charts (atleast in taiwan) and got ppl to notice her. Someone said flyers of A BEST 2 was handed out for free in singapore. |
It'll be interesting to see how Ai am best turns out... I am very disappointed they took out Friends. Surely they could have made it a 14 track album instead. Hopefully, they'll re-do some tracks, though I think that will be unlikely.
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I do not believe at all that A BEST 2 is a total failure. Ayu did a great job at selling so many copies of this album! At least it's ranked up there as one of the highest selling albums of the year. |
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Just because A BEST 2 didn't sell 1 million copies each already does NOT make it a complete failure. So what if it dropped in 2 weeks? Who the hell cares. They're both #1 albums. I'd just like to point out that most artists cant even get #1. You use those words too freely, impactbreaker. "Pathetic failure" .. That's so rude If you say that selling over 500 000 in 2 weeks is a pathetic failure, I guess that also means that Ami Suzuki, BoA, Namie, and of course Ayu are all pathetic failures. That's nice then. |
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Though some people do take the charting positions tooooooo freakishly. Like on Wikipedia, everyday someone trys to change the charts to make it that all her albums were Number 1! |
Yeah. Like omfg ONLY half a million people bought A BEST 2 ;_; Why doesnt ayu just go get the lethal injection now ;_;:@
She only gained billions upon billions of yen for avex since the production costs were so low for this album.. NOT TRILLIONS LIKE SHE SHOULD HAVE.. BOO AYU DIE Tell me impactbreaker, what are your standards for an album to NOT be a pathetic failure? Having each A BEST 2 album selling 2 million each? Sorry but 2001 is over. |
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Besides it has nothing to do with her. It's Ayu. Tell me what A BEST 2 would have had to have sold to not be a pathetic failure. Go on, humor me. |
haha, the album was not a flop, most artists can't even sell what 1 of her bests can sell in the first week.
Look a Best Bounce & Lovers, now thats a flop. |
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Well, Bounce&Loves is limited to 350K, so it's not going to be that successful.
For A Best 2, I'm not going to say it's a success, because it's not completely, but I don't think it's a total flop either. I think the use of the words "pathetic failure" is a little too extreme. It's not like it's only 50K by its first weeks. And to be honest, I'm not sure about Ai am Best. Since Ai's discography is pretty small, leaving out 4 singles is a pretty big deal, and I still think avex made a mistake putting love music instead of Haneari Tamago or friends, and for a best album, the pre-order charting is not that good. |
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Guy, get over it. To me this album was a failure. You can live up to think that these were fantastic sales, because they weren't in my opinion, and you won't convice me otherwise, no matter how much excuses are invented about BoA this, Ami Suzuki that, namie amuro this, whatever. I think you're getting too annoyed by the fact I have such a rough opinion about these sales. C'mon, calling this a pathetic failure is being rude? Oh My God, I'm being rude to an ayu album! A CD with a plastic case and booklet, oh no, I'm being rude to an object! What a crime. Sorry but this is getting out of hand. |
That's nice. I'd just like to know your definition of what success would be for this album.
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I'll have to admit the 2nd week sales were a lot lower than what I expected. 'Secret' debuted with a lower 1st week but its' 2nd week sales managed to outsell A BEST 2's 2nd week sales...
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white: 1 to 2 black 2 to 3. (If you just look at the first post carefully, that #12 spot is for world united chart) Looking based on the daily indicators, Im very surprised b&l and but/ashio sold so low even though they are limited. Shouldnt the sales be closer to the limited number than it is now? since knowing that they are limited...fans would try to get it before they think will run out right? For someone like kumi who is one of the popular female artists right now still sell so low and so far not at the middle point of the limited number? |
Well for the single, I seriously don't think people knew it was limited. (It's not like it's mentioned in the CM's or anything).
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