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Tasked 28th February 2007 11:10 AM

[Charts+sales] A BEST 2 Thread 2
 
I'll keep this thread updated =)

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WORLDWIDE


Album-charts
Week - Black - White
#1# --- #2 --- #1
#2# --- #13 --- #12


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JAPAN



Daily
DATE - Black - White
02/27 - #1 --- #2
02/28 - #2 --- #1
03/01 - #2 --- #1
03/02 - #2 --- #1
03/03 - #2 --- #1
03/04 - #2 --- #1
03/05 - #2 --- #1
03/06 - #3 --- #2
03/07 - #3 --- #2
03/08 - #3 --- #2
03/09 - #3 --- #2
03/10 - #3 --- #2
03/11 - #3 --- #2
03/12 - #3 --- #2
03/13 - #9 --- #8
03/14 - #9 --- #8
03/15 - #7 --- #6
03/16 - #7 --- #6
03/17 - #7 --- #6
03/18 - #7 --- #6
03/19 - #7 --- #6
03/20 - #7 --- #6
03/21 - #13 --- #11
03/22 - #8 --- #7
03/23 - #8 --- #7
03/24 - #9 --- #8
03/24 - #9 --- #8
03/25 - #9 --- #8
03/26 - #9 --- #8
03/27 - #19 --- #18
03/28 - #18 --- #16
03/29 - #14 --- #13
03/30 - #14 --- #12
04/01 - #14 --- #12
04/02 - #12 --- #13
04/03 - #20 --- #19
04/04 - #20 --- #18
04/05 - #18 --- #17
04/05 - #19 --- #18
04/06 - #19 --- #15
04/07 - #19 --- #17
04/08 - #19 --- #17
04/09 - #17 --- #15
04/10 - n/a --- n/a
04/11 - n/a --- #19
04/12 - n/a --- #20
04/13 - #20 --- #19
04/14 - n/a --- #16
04/15 - #20 --- #17
04/16 - #17 --- #14

Weekly
Week - Black sales - White sales
#1# - 470,057 (#2) - 475,284 (#1)
#2# - x97,354 (#3) - 101,894 (#2)
#3# - x44,239 (#3) - x46,634 (#2)
#4# - x21,349 (#10) - x22,667 (#9)
#5# - x13,265 (#16) - x14,168 (#15)
#6# - xx8,339 (#18) - xx8,783 (#17)

A BEST 2 sold: 1,323,933 copies (654,603 black / 669,330 white)
A BEST 2 shipped: 1,900,000 copies

Monthly
MONTH - Black - White
March - #3 --- #2


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TAIWAN



Weekly J-pop
Week - Black - White
#1# - 23.81% (#2) - 24.66% (#1)
#2# - 13.00% (#1) - 12.31% (#2)
#3# - 13.15% (#2) - 11.95% (#1)
#4# - 8.65% (#2) - 10.29% (#1)
#5# - 8.94% (#2) - 9.90% (#1)
#6# - 7.00% (#2) - 7.43% (#1)

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country - Black - White
Japan --- #2 --- #1

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Week - part of Me
#1 --- #18
#2 --- n/a

Records
-1st time in 36.5 years that a female artist has occupied #1 and 2 in the album charts.
-TOP 2 highest 1st week album sales in the 2007 CALENDAR year.
-TOP 2 highest selling albums in the 2007 CALENDAR year.
-1st time female artist as both the #1 and #2 in the United World Charts

bluegie 14th March 2007 12:25 PM

[Charts+sales] A BEST 2 -- THREAD II
 
2007年03月13日 付

WHITE No. 8 and BLACK NO. 9... That's not surprising.. What shocking me the most are

1) Mr. Children's HOME sales indicator is 139008... If that times 1.6 or 1.8, the first day sales is like 220 to 250K.. I suppose it will be the year no. 1 (currently)..
2) Kuu's Bounce and Lovers indicator is only 29508 @@.. That's really low consider kuu's popularity... it's like 45 - 55K copies being sold. I know this album is limited (350K rite?), but I thought at least 1/3 of them should be sold on the first day...

Anywayz.. I hope WHITE will jump back to top 5 tomorrow or so..

kiseki89 14th March 2007 12:33 PM

3月13日付デイリーアルバムランキングTOP10予想結果
○ 1位 Mr.Children「HOME」
○ 2位 倖田來未「BEST~BOUNCE&LOVERS~」
○ 3位 中島美嘉「YES」
× 4位 EXILE「EXILE EVOLUTION」
× 5位 マキシマム ザ ホルモン「ぶっ生き返す」
× 6位 HOME MADE 家族「FAMILIA」
× 7位 東方神起「Five in the Black」
○ 8位 浜崎あゆみ「A BEST 2 -WHITE-」
○ 9位 浜崎あゆみ「A BEST 2 -BLACK-」
×10位 安倍なつみ「25~ヴァンサンク~」

Haiz... battle begins again

CHAS_AYU 14th March 2007 12:34 PM

2nd Weekly Ranking and Sales


2. A BEST 2 -WHITE- 101894
3. A BEST 2 -BLACK- 97354

~X2RADialbomber~ 14th March 2007 12:35 PM

Looks like everyone is selling really low.

bluegie 14th March 2007 12:38 PM

yeah except Mr. Children. If first day sales = about 50% of the weekly sales, it implies HOME may break 500K on the first week.

I understand that Mika's YES may be selling quite low (since her popularity decreases compared to MUSIC era).. but kuu.. I'm just very surprised by the outcome..

oro77 14th March 2007 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 1041646)
yeah except Mr. Children. If first day sales = about 50% of the weekly sales, it implies HOME may break 500K on the first week.

I understand that Mika's YES may be selling quite low (since her popularity decreases compared to MUSIC era).. but kuu.. I'm just very surprised by the outcome..

I did not know about Mika's popularity, what is MUSIC era ?
I thought Nana has been a good boost for Mika even if this album has nothing about Nana, not rock album but a ballad gospel album. Quite original I think.

bluegie 14th March 2007 12:51 PM

oh.. Mika's last album --> MUSIC.

and I dun think NANA would help Mika that much considering low sales of both NANA/REIRA singles + not much hype of the movie during last year. NANA 1 was a big hit but NANA 2 wasn't. (wait you're in Japan now rite? Was NANA 2 a hit or not?? I didn't hear much news from it compared to NANA 1..)

Anywayz.. I just hope that there will be 50K for each BLACK and WHITE.. you know, lots of people buying other albums and they won't have much money left for A BEST 2 this week.. :P.

iphis 14th March 2007 12:54 PM

considering the popularity of ayu in asia area,
the sales of ayu's albums of ORICON only can tell us her popularity in japan, not asia

they dont know how much her album could sale in china or singapore....

alternarist 14th March 2007 01:02 PM

thanks for the info!

Hatix 14th March 2007 01:09 PM

I find it unfortunate that they only show indicators for the top 3, and not the whole list... But I guess A Best 2 will go up again, most of the new albums (that are not in top 3), usually drop a few places through the week.

But, both A Best 2 reached 500K+, which is 1+ Million :D
Go Ayu! (but Mr. Children has always been strong anyway)

extepan 14th March 2007 01:14 PM

so are number 1 albums counted as daily or weekly number 1?
if it is counted as weekly, then blac is the first non number 1 album ayu has ever released.

bluegie 14th March 2007 01:16 PM

Ahh the better thread for A BEST 2 stat hehe. Thanks for the update Rody :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by extepan (Post 1041682)
so are number 1 albums counted as daily or weekly number 1?
if it is counted as weekly, then blac is the first non number 1 album ayu has ever released.

I guess so, then again oricon doesn't count BEST album from the streak... so ayu's still keeping her no. 1 streak for studio albums...

Tasked 14th March 2007 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extepan (Post 1041682)
so are number 1 albums counted as daily or weekly number 1?
if it is counted as weekly, then blac is the first non number 1 album ayu has ever released.

technically, WEEKLY charts determine whether an album is #1 or not. So yes, A BEST 2 -BLACK- is not a number1 album.. but... it's also not a studio-album, so this doesn't break any chain Ayu has..

All Ayu's studio albums are #1, remix-albums and compilation albums such as these 2 don't contribute to that record.

ah, bluegie beats me with alot of things today, whaha :P
Anyway I now changed the stats to show the actual weekly sales aswell as the sum

bluegie 14th March 2007 01:25 PM

oh... i never intend to beat you Rody (or anyone) LOL... :D

I guess avex never wants both BLACK and WHITE to be no.1 in the beginning... If so they would not release A BEST 2 on 2.28.

CHAS_AYU 14th March 2007 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 1041693)
oh... i never intend to beat you Rody (or anyone) LOL... :D

I guess avex never wants both BLACK and WHITE to be no.1 in the beginning... If so they would not release A BEST 2 on 2.28.

I guess Avex would like A BEST 2 to break the record of both albums occupy the 1st and 2nd positions of the chart.

It's not usual for an artist to release 2 albums on the same day.

And Ayu has already got so many No. 1 albums, so this time the goal is to break the record instead of two No. 1 albums. :D

AyuGAME 14th March 2007 01:34 PM

c'mon A best you can do better than this...

elepop 14th March 2007 01:43 PM

What? I thought Kuu would be #1, didn't know Mr.Children was releasing on the same day.

I hope the 2 A BEST 2 stay in the top 10 at least!

hiroshi_ben 14th March 2007 01:48 PM

I guess the sales for A BEST 2 might be doubled if sales from Asia and the rest of the countries are added in.^^

Tasked 14th March 2007 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hiroshi_ben (Post 1041709)
I guess the sales for A BEST 2 might be doubled if sales from Asia and the rest of the countries are added in.^^


hahahaha.... no:P.... really; don't overestimate the non-japanese sales.. they really don't change much. we're talking about 10,000s rather than 100,000s

bluegie 14th March 2007 02:01 PM

let's use A BEST sales as an example.. about 4.3 million copies sold in Japan and 5 million copies worldwide... that means only 0.7 mil copies being sold outside japan. Remind that the cd sales were still quite good during 2001..

now back to 2007.. i dun really think A BEST 2 would be sold over 0.8 mil copies outside Japan rite at this moment... it would be lucky if 200K being sold in asia during these two weeks..

celebskin22 14th March 2007 02:47 PM

i'm soooo happy for ayu! well-deserved!

norain 14th March 2007 03:02 PM

#8/9? Sad. At least she gets 600K each. This was an expensive best too!

ruixiong89 14th March 2007 04:07 PM

The slip is quite drastic, but I think indeed, the cost could possibly have been one factor. One of the most expensive CDs released on the market till date! I think people are probably burning or downloading it off illegally (but well, that seems to apply to all artistes) Nevertheless, these are truly fantastic figures for a SOLO female artiste! And not to mention each of these songs are truly GEMS!

haruki 14th March 2007 04:55 PM

Oh Mai Gosh!!!! :thud

its number 8/9 today! :headache :( drop suddenly :grumpy
let's go to CD shop tmr and buy all her CDs tmr!:dead2

benslave4u 14th March 2007 06:24 PM

OH WOW Mr. Children is going insane!! That's crazy!! 139 thousand copies in one day!! But still I believe ayu did a really good job!!

summersnow 14th March 2007 07:04 PM

Yup it's a huge drop indeed, #8 and #9! Thanks Rody for the update! This looks neater. Thanks for your effort. =)

evolution7931 14th March 2007 07:07 PM

Lets not look at individual sales and celebrate the fact that A BEST 2 sold 1.14 Million copies!

And I wouldn't worry about the drop to #8 today.. There were tons of new releases in front of her including Koda Kumi, Mika Nakashima, Mr Children, etc. Even Exile went down to #5.. This always happens on a week when there's tons of new releases but I believe that it'll likely climb higher soon especially with the two tv lives tomorrow

pop909 15th March 2007 06:26 AM

Why did the 8/9 go away right when i was going to show my friend..

..:Hot:Like:Wow:.. 15th March 2007 09:48 AM

I bet her A BEST 2 asia sales would be much bigger than her first one.

CHAS_AYU 15th March 2007 01:05 PM

14 March 2007 Ranking@Oricon Japan

#8 A BEST 2 -WHITE-
#9 A BEST 2 -BLACK-

ayu_fan929 15th March 2007 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 1041718)
let's use A BEST sales as an example.. about 4.3 million copies sold in Japan and 5 million copies worldwide... that means only 0.7 mil copies being sold outside japan. Remind that the cd sales were still quite good during 2001..

I don't think that was ever numerically proven.

Impracticable 15th March 2007 09:53 PM

Err ... i have neverread it sold 5 million worldwide ... i have heard it sold 6 million world wide. and Ayu's popularity has really grown since then ... so even if nearly 1 million [or 2] was sold worldwide for A BEST i think many more would be sold now! and anyway, it was just realesed in more countries@

jeffycue 16th March 2007 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHAS_AYU
It's not usual for an artist to release 2 albums on the same day.

yeah... the last artist i know who did this was Mr.Children with their BEST of too. they also occupied 1st and 2nd :)

go mr.children!!

Jordan 16th March 2007 01:11 AM

Sales have dropped alot since the early 00's due to illegal downloading getting very popular! She's done well to say it's 2007 =]

*claps to ayu*

ayu_fan929 16th March 2007 02:47 AM

The last double album release that I know of was Spitz' 2 BEST albums last year.

heartplace83 16th March 2007 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 1041718)
now back to 2007.. i dun really think A BEST 2 would be sold over 0.8 mil copies outside Japan rite at this moment... it would be lucky if 200K being sold in asia during these two weeks..

but u need to realize that back then when a best was released, she didnt have as much fan in asia compared to now.. a lot of people outside japan only started to listen to her after teh release of a best (u can search for some threads here that prove that)..n i know that if ayu were to hold an asia tour back then, i doubt that the tickets would be selling as hot as it has now.. so yea, i think her oversea's sales contribute a lot! like it matters :P

oro77 16th March 2007 04:32 AM

I know Mr Children is very popular, they make very good songs. I did not listen to their new release, is it that good ?

pbs1605 16th March 2007 05:11 AM

Thanks for the info.

ayu_fan929 16th March 2007 01:24 PM

For 3/15

-WHITE- #6
-BLACK- #7

Quote:

Originally Posted by oro77 (Post 1042824)
I know Mr Children is very popular, they make very good songs. I did not listen to their new release, is it that good ?

One of their songs from their latest 'HOME' album is pretty good. It's called 'Shirushi'.

bluegie 16th March 2007 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heartplace83 (Post 1042801)
but u need to realize that back then when a best was released, she didnt have as much fan in asia compared to now.. a lot of people outside japan only started to listen to her after teh release of a best (u can search for some threads here that prove that)..n i know that if ayu were to hold an asia tour back then, i doubt that the tickets would be selling as hot as it has now.. so yea, i think her oversea's sales contribute a lot! like it matters :P

Back in the old days ayu + hikki were really popular in chinese places. I remember that when A BEST was release, arond 0.4 to 0.5 million copies were sold in Taiwan after 2 to 3 months, and the battles between hikki and ayu created lots of fights in those chinese forums/newsgroups. In 2002, when ayu visited HK it created quite a chaos in traffic. Therefore, we can't underestimate ayu's power back in the old days :P.

Sommernacht~ 16th March 2007 08:15 PM

wow, two positions up! I thought that was almost impossible in the Oricon charts :P another record? LOL

AmyRoseM 16th March 2007 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sommernacht~ (Post 1043248)
wow, two positions up! I thought that was almost impossible in the Oricon charts :P another record? LOL

seriously. BUT OMG YAY A JUMP!!! :P

elepop 17th March 2007 12:23 AM

Yay, two position up! This week sales are quite low... I thought Kuu's album would sale better. But it is limited right?

ayu_fan929 17th March 2007 01:21 AM

^Yep.

I think maybe this week it will sell 60k each?

bluegie 17th March 2007 01:52 AM

60K each.. hmmn.. that's kinda low.. too bad there're many new releases this week.. :no

jeffycue 17th March 2007 08:07 AM

it jumped up! weeeeee!

freedreamer 17th March 2007 09:26 AM

she has to maintain whatever drop she has in order to get that mill..haiz..
if it sells as much as Secret, i think we could say both albums are equally loved?..u noe what i mean

Sim' 17th March 2007 12:28 PM

[16/03/07]

1. HOME - Mr.Children [35498]
2. BEST~BOUNCE & LOVERS~(期間限定生産盤)- 倖田來未 [10261]
3. YES - 中島美嘉 [8987]
4. EXILE EVOLUTION - EXILE
5. ぶっ生き返す - マキシマム ザ ホルモン
6. A BEST 2-WHITE- - 浜崎あゆみ
7. A BEST 2-BLACK- - 浜崎あゆみ


GO AYU!! GO GO!!!

Source : ORICON =)

..:Hot:Like:Wow:.. 17th March 2007 12:34 PM

Go Ayu Go, Go Ayu Go, Go Ayu Go!!!!

Wow! kuu's is shocking, I was expecting BEST BL to sell 350 000 in it's first week. I wonder if people are finally getting sick of her gimmicks.

ImpactBreaker 17th March 2007 12:56 PM

A BEST 2 = total failure. :no I so wish it would have sold well....

~X2RADialbomber~ 17th March 2007 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingofpop (Post 1043748)
Go Ayu Go, Go Ayu Go, Go Ayu Go!!!!

Wow! kuu's is shocking, I was expecting BEST BL to sell 350 000 in it's first week. I wonder if people are finally getting sick of her gimmicks.

YEAH! I agree with you : D

And Utada's FOL seems to be VERY close to BUT/Aishou

Kodayumi 17th March 2007 01:27 PM

WOOT!! Ayu gogogo!!

bluegie 17th March 2007 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingofpop (Post 1043748)
Go Ayu Go, Go Ayu Go, Go Ayu Go!!!!

Wow! kuu's is shocking, I was expecting BEST BL to sell 350 000 in it's first week. I wonder if people are finally getting sick of her gimmicks.

isn't Bounce & Lovers are 350K limited cd..? if that's the case it couldn't sell all of them anywayz... I was expecting BL would be sold at least 2/3 of the portion.. seems like it's not going to be.. :P

and it seems like Hikki will beat kuu this week apparently... :yes

ayu_fan929 17th March 2007 01:41 PM

Limited releases never sell out when they chart on Oricon (i.e. Ayu's limited singles, Mr. Children's FAKE, Kuu's 12 singles etc.) The only exception I've seen was 'Fly high' but that was like 400 short of the 300,000 limit.

I also read that Kuu's single is also a limited release as well.

criminal 17th March 2007 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929 (Post 1043780)
I also read that Kuu's single is also a limited release as well.

Aww, you're right, I just checked CDJapan. I was kind of hoping that her popularity was coming to a sudden end (at least her mega popularity) with the single's indicator being 8k or something, but I guess we'll see for sure during the next single's release.

RpgN12 17th March 2007 02:19 PM

Let's put Koda Kumi out of this, shall we?

For now A Best 2 is selling well, compared to other artist. But I expected so much more from her Best albums. All the hype created and then selling about 600k each...Maybe I'm expecting way too much. Her A Best 1 sold like 4 million copies, right?

roanmy 17th March 2007 03:36 PM

A Best has sold well over 4mill, but that album was from Ayu's megapopularity period, right?

Considering the fact that the DVD versions of this album is quite expensive, and that she's not the "wow"-artist anymore, I think they've sold quite well.

They're also quite high up (and no.1 until recently) on iTunes musicstore.

bluegie 17th March 2007 11:34 PM

i agree. i never expect ayu's A BEST 2 will sell like a million each in the beginning. I was just hoping each may sell to a point like 700 to 800K. BEST albums usually have longer legs so 700K shouldn't be a problem. I just kinda hope each will have 750K at least.. so combined sales will be 1.5 million copies, which is really good for ayu and nowaday's sales.

Quote:

Originally Posted by criminal (Post 1043790)
Aww, you're right, I just checked CDJapan. I was kind of hoping that her popularity was coming to a sudden end (at least her mega popularity) with the single's indicator being 8k or something, but I guess we'll see for sure during the next single's release.

Well.. it's really obvious that kuu sales are declining. I remember ayu's appears, kanariya, and fly high both sold over 270K at least on the first week and eventually they all sold over 290K in a few weeks (consider they were all 300K limited release). If kuu's popularity is still really high, BUT/Aisho (150K limited release) should have a similar effect (both songs aren't on Bounce and Lovers). However, so far the combined indicator from oricon is like 28185, which is lower than expect. Cherry girl was selling bad but that was because its release date was close to Black Cherry. BUT and aisho aren't on B&L yet it sells poorly. So to me it seems like kuu starts facing a backlash.. (just like how ayu got backlash when she was overexposure..)

truehappiness 17th March 2007 11:36 PM

I don't think it's fair to say that A BEST 2 was a failure, since each album is part of "one whole.."

And to sell a million of each EASILY.. you'd have to be Mr. Children..

[Their two bests released on the same day both got a million in their first week.]

It's kind of like, Ayu's trying to "beat herself" in sales, when there's no real point in doing so.. The units sold TOTAL is what's important, not the amount for each best >>

jeffycue 18th March 2007 12:18 AM

Quote:

Week - Black - White
#1# --- #2 --- #1
#2# --- #13 --- #12
WTF??!?!

~X2RADialbomber~ 18th March 2007 12:19 AM

There have been lots of new releases this week, jeffycue

truehappiness 18th March 2007 12:25 AM

Someone looks like they forgot to read the "WORLDWIDE" on top of that chart. >>

jeffycue 18th March 2007 12:29 AM

ohh. LoL... my bad.

i was rushing in skimming through... hahaha..

bluegie 18th March 2007 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1044087)
I don't think it's fair to say that A BEST 2 was a failure, since each album is part of "one whole.."

And to sell a million of each EASILY.. you'd have to be Mr. Children..

[Their two bests released on the same day both got a million in their first week.]

It's kind of like, Ayu's trying to "beat herself" in sales, when there's no real point in doing so.. The units sold TOTAL is what's important, not the amount for each best >>

er.. but Mr. Children's double BESTs were released in 2001.. That was the time if ayu released triple BESTs and each could be guarantee selling over million copies on the first week as well :P.

There's no doubt tho Mr. Children's selling power is better than ayu nowadays :yes.

And I must agree that A BEST 2 ain't a failure. :yes

truehappiness 18th March 2007 12:59 AM

If any other artist were to pull out a dual-album BEST compilation, I'm sure that sales would be similar to what Ayu got..

There's no real way that any artists other than B'z or Misuchiru would be able to get higher than 400-500k first week for each best..

*Petit* 18th March 2007 01:04 AM

^
I think I got your point, but I think that "any" other artist wouldn't be able to sell half as much as this with a dual best release, apart from the ones you mentioned and of course Mr Children and maybe SAS. I doubt even Utada could do it atm.

truehappiness 18th March 2007 01:10 AM

Hikki doesn't have enough songs to use right now anyway.. [unless she pulls a "ballad" or R&B best out of her butt >>]

She put all her singles into the one pre-BML, right?
So she has to wait probably like 2 or 3 more years until she can do another greatest hits compilation...


It'll be interesting to see how Japan reacts to Ai am BEST..

Ayumiko 18th March 2007 01:26 AM

Im also waiting to see how well ai am best will sell. I would like it to sell well as I like ai and some of her songs but the album doesnt have cd only version and the cover doesnt have her on it...those 2 might effect sales...but this IS her first best album and it contains her hits. Hopefully it will sell more than love cook.

ayu_fan929 18th March 2007 01:46 AM

I'm also curious about Otsuka Ai's BEST. I have a feeling it won't do too well, but I hope I'm proven wrong.

truehappiness 18th March 2007 01:50 AM

My guess for it's first week is between 600-900k..

Due to the utter value and the inclusion of Sakuranbo AND Planetarium..

ayu_fan929 18th March 2007 01:54 AM

Right now, I don't think it will be that high. I say 400k.

EDIT: Went onto Amazon to see the album's rating - 2.5/5. I think people are pissed that none of her new singles are going to be included. The only thing that makes people want to buy is that her PVs are finally going to be released on 1 DVD and also the LOVE MUSiC PV.

*Petit* 18th March 2007 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929 (Post 1044150)
I'm also curious about Otsuka Ai's BEST. I have a feeling it won't do too well, but I hope I'm proven wrong.

I think you'll be. ^_^ I don't really like any of Ai's recent stuff, but she has made one of her songs very memorable. Sakuranbo had everything you can demand of a SUPER hit, except the number one spot. It was in karaoke charts for ages, had a well selling reissue and made her into one of avex most popular artists. I think a good comparison would be Shimatani Hitomi's delicious (w/ama iro no kami no otome) which sold really really well compared to most of what she releases, even though she didn't really have her biggest hit close to its release. She still had those songs that people remember, sung at karaokes and were "there". Ai's career is different though, and she's on a much higher level of popularity. But expect a lot more people than "the fans" to get this.

truehappiness 18th March 2007 02:00 AM

It doesn't seem that Ai am BEST is charting too well on sites..

HMV - > #5
Amazon -> #7
CDJapan -> #3
Neowing -> #7

ayu_fan929 18th March 2007 02:01 AM

^Isn't it 7th on HMV and not charting in the TOP 20 for CDJapan?

DerrickRocks 18th March 2007 02:35 AM

ha ha ai otsuka flopped she was an baka to put Ai am Best out without any type of promotion. A-BEST 2 is not a flop why do people keep saying that? even though im not an ayu- fanatic its still wrong to say that. I mean 2 albums at the same time is kind of retarded alone it would have hit at least 2 mill i think.

Raleigh 18th March 2007 02:40 AM

^ Er Ai am Best hasn't been released yet and if it does then it won't be her fault but avex's if she's not promoted. Anyhow I agree to the fact that Ayu's BEST 2 did well though imo I expected it to sell more.

evolution7931 18th March 2007 02:41 AM

Yeah A BEST 2 is such a total failure. I mean, 1.1 million cds sold is so bad.

*sarcasm*

Ayumiko 18th March 2007 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DerrickRocks (Post 1044173)
ha ha ai otsuka flopped she was an baka to put Ai am Best out without any type of promotion. A-BEST 2 is not a flop why do people keep saying that? even though im not an ayu- fanatic its still wrong to say that. I mean 2 albums at the same time is kind of retarded alone it would have hit at least 2 mill i think.

Please dont call ai a baka...you wouldnt want your fav artist to be called a baka right? (even though she is not my fav but still) besides ai am best is not out yet. I wouldnt call it a flop till I see sales numbers.

I dont think releasing A BEST 2 in one album will sell 2 million copies. I actually think avex was wise to release it seperately. For someone like me, I purchased both versions...but if it was released as one, I would of bought 1 not 2. The sales of both versions are reallly close...so I think if A BEST 2 was 1 release, it will just sell little more than one of them now.

but if A BEST 2 was released as one (cd only and cd+dvd minus the extra concert dvd) and the price is cheaper like a regular album, it might sell a little bit more. I think the aim for the A BEST 2 is to promote ayu in asia along with the asia tour to expand her fan base. I think they succeeded in making the albums topped the charts (atleast in taiwan) and got ppl to notice her. Someone said flyers of A BEST 2 was handed out for free in singapore.

Enfluerage 18th March 2007 03:16 AM

It'll be interesting to see how Ai am best turns out... I am very disappointed they took out Friends. Surely they could have made it a 14 track album instead. Hopefully, they'll re-do some tracks, though I think that will be unlikely.

~X2RADialbomber~ 18th March 2007 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DerrickRocks (Post 1044173)
ha ha ai otsuka flopped she was an baka to put Ai am Best out without any type of promotion. A-BEST 2 is not a flop why do people keep saying that? even though im not an ayu- fanatic its still wrong to say that. I mean 2 albums at the same time is kind of retarded alone it would have hit at least 2 mill i think.

Hahahahahaahahaha Koda Kumi is flopping too!! HAHAHAHAHAHA :rolleyes

I do not believe at all that A BEST 2 is a total failure. Ayu did a great job at selling so many copies of this album! At least it's ranked up there as one of the highest selling albums of the year.

ImpactBreaker 18th March 2007 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by evolution7931 (Post 1044176)
Yeah A BEST 2 is such a total failure. I mean, 1.1 million cds sold is so bad.

*sarcasm*

Well, it is a HUGE failure. It highly doubt 1 million people bought the album. The truth is, 500,000 fanatics bought both versions, so yeah, it is a total failure for something that is supposed to be a BEST album. Also, what else justify the sudden drop from #1 to #12 in a week? If that's not a pathetic failure, I'm really not sure what it should be called. :laugh Succesful? Definitely NOT! :roflmao I wonder why you fans need to be so defensive to defend something that clearly flopped miserably. I'm not talking about the fact avex received the income for 1.1 million albums, but how ayu's fanbase has grown so shorter for even a BEST album to sell so little (again I reinforce how probably only about 500,000 fans have acquired this album, and i'm not even considering the hardcore fans who bought all 4 version, if they're included, these numbers are a lot smaller). I'm so sorry for ayu :no

evolution7931 18th March 2007 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ~X2RADialbomber~ (Post 1044200)
Hahahahahaahahaha Koda Kumi is flopping too!! HAHAHAHAHAHA :rolleyes

I do not believe at all that A BEST 2 is a total failure. Ayu did a great job at selling so many copies of this album! At least it's ranked up there as one of the highest selling albums of the year.

I know. A total failure would have been more like stooping to BoA's current level, or Namie's. Just kidding. Those no even way less than Ayu's current level and they're far from being complete failures. So neither is Ayu's.

Just because A BEST 2 didn't sell 1 million copies each already does NOT make it a complete failure.

So what if it dropped in 2 weeks? Who the hell cares. They're both #1 albums. I'd just like to point out that most artists cant even get #1.

You use those words too freely, impactbreaker. "Pathetic failure" .. That's so rude

If you say that selling over 500 000 in 2 weeks is a pathetic failure, I guess that also means that Ami Suzuki, BoA, Namie, and of course Ayu are all pathetic failures. That's nice then.

~X2RADialbomber~ 18th March 2007 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by evolution7931 (Post 1044218)
I know. A total failure would have been more like stooping to BoA's current level, or Namie's. Just kidding. Those no even way less than Ayu's current level and they're far from being complete failures. So neither is Ayu's.

Just because A BEST 2 didn't sell 1 million copies each already does NOT make it a complete failure.

So what if it dropped in 2 weeks? Who the hell cares. They're both #1 albums. I'd just like to point out that most artists cant even get #1.

You use those words too freely, impactbreaker. "Pathetic failure" .. That's so rude

Gosh, I agree .___.

Though some people do take the charting positions tooooooo freakishly. Like on Wikipedia, everyday someone trys to change the charts to make it that all her albums were Number 1!

evolution7931 18th March 2007 04:09 AM

Yeah. Like omfg ONLY half a million people bought A BEST 2 ;_; Why doesnt ayu just go get the lethal injection now ;_;:@

She only gained billions upon billions of yen for avex since the production costs were so low for this album.. NOT TRILLIONS LIKE SHE SHOULD HAVE.. BOO AYU DIE

Tell me impactbreaker, what are your standards for an album to NOT be a pathetic failure? Having each A BEST 2 album selling 2 million each? Sorry but 2001 is over.

ImpactBreaker 18th March 2007 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by evolution7931 (Post 1044218)
If you say that selling over 500 000 in 2 weeks is a pathetic failure, I guess that also means that Ami Suzuki, BoA, Namie, and of course Ayu are all pathetic failures. That's nice then.

BoA and Ami Suzuki have never been anywhere close to ayu in terms of popularity and sales, so if ayu is reaching them, it makes me think ayu is doing badly.

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Originally Posted by evolution7931 (Post 1044222)
Yeah. Like omfg ONLY half a million people bought A BEST 2 ;_; Why doesnt ayu just go get the lethal injection now ;_;:@

She only gained billions upon billions of yen for avex since the production costs were so low for this album.. NOT TRILLIONS LIKE SHE SHOULD HAVE.. BOO AYU DIE

Tell me impactbreaker, what are your standards for an album to NOT be a pathetic failure? Having each A BEST 2 album selling 2 million each? Sorry but 2001 is over.

Geez, the fact this album was a pathetic failure and flop in my opinion, doesn't mean you need to satirize with "pathetic" examples. I never said she needed to get a lethal injection or quit or whatever, so drop your ayu-fanboying because I'm also a huge fan of ayu. These A BESt 2 sales are shameful, and avex should have released this album as a double CD instead, just like most artists do. Content is too buig? Double CD. Avex was pathetic in dividing this release. I bet several people feel turned off into buying this album because they feel quite divided about some of the BLACK and WHITE songs and just decide not to waste their money. Bad move.

evolution7931 18th March 2007 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 1044223)
BoA and Ami Suzuki have never been anywhere close to ayu in terms of popularity and sales, so if ayu is reaching them, it makes me think ayu is doing badly.

Sorry to break the news but yes Ami Suzuki has been as popular as Ayu in terms of sales.

ImpactBreaker 18th March 2007 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by evolution7931 (Post 1044226)
Sorry to break the news but yes Ami Suzuki has been as popular as Ayu in terms of sales.

What is ami Suzuki now? If you think ayu is really going well being as succesful as Ami Suzuki is right now, then sorry, flop was a good choice of a word.

evolution7931 18th March 2007 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 1044231)
What is ami Suzuki now? If you think ayu is really going well being as succesful as Ami Suzuki is right now, then sorry, flop was a good choice of a word.

Wtf? I'm sorry but maybe if you wrote properly I could understand.

Besides it has nothing to do with her. It's Ayu.

Tell me what A BEST 2 would have had to have sold to not be a pathetic failure. Go on, humor me.

..:Hot:Like:Wow:.. 18th March 2007 04:45 AM

haha, the album was not a flop, most artists can't even sell what 1 of her bests can sell in the first week.

Look a Best Bounce & Lovers, now thats a flop.

evolution7931 18th March 2007 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingofpop (Post 1044242)
haha, the album was not a flop, most artists can't even sell what 1 of her bests can sell in the first week.

Look a Best Bounce & Lovers, now thats a flop.

Exactly! Thank you!

Kikaru 18th March 2007 05:27 AM

Well, Bounce&Loves is limited to 350K, so it's not going to be that successful.

For A Best 2, I'm not going to say it's a success, because it's not completely, but I don't think it's a total flop either. I think the use of the words "pathetic failure" is a little too extreme. It's not like it's only 50K by its first weeks.

And to be honest, I'm not sure about Ai am Best. Since Ai's discography is pretty small, leaving out 4 singles is a pretty big deal, and I still think avex made a mistake putting love music instead of Haneari Tamago or friends, and for a best album, the pre-order charting is not that good.

ImpactBreaker 18th March 2007 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolution7931 (Post 1044232)
Wtf? I'm sorry but maybe if you wrote properly I could understand.

Besides it has nothing to do with her. It's Ayu.

Tell me what A BEST 2 would have had to have sold to not be a pathetic failure. Go on, humor me.

Huh? You're the one who brought Ami Suzuki and BoA into the discussion and tell me it has nothing to do with her(Ami suzuki)? LOL Don't bring them into discussion next time if you're going to contradict yourself later.
Guy, get over it. To me this album was a failure. You can live up to think that these were fantastic sales, because they weren't in my opinion, and you won't convice me otherwise, no matter how much excuses are invented about BoA this, Ami Suzuki that, namie amuro this, whatever. I think you're getting too annoyed by the fact I have such a rough opinion about these sales. C'mon, calling this a pathetic failure is being rude? Oh My God, I'm being rude to an ayu album! A CD with a plastic case and booklet, oh no, I'm being rude to an object! What a crime. Sorry but this is getting out of hand.

evolution7931 18th March 2007 05:37 AM

That's nice. I'd just like to know your definition of what success would be for this album.

ayu_fan929 18th March 2007 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolution7931 (Post 1044218)
So what if it dropped in 2 weeks? Who the hell cares. They're both #1 albums.

Technically, only -WHITE- is the #1 album.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kikaru (Post 1044260)
For A Best 2, I'm not going to say it's a success, because it's not completely, but I don't think it's a total flop either. I think the use of the words "pathetic failure" is a little too extreme. It's not like it's only 50K by its first weeks.

Same. If it manages to sell 800k, it will be decent. (Nothing to go crazy about imo.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingofpop (Post 1044242)
Look a Best Bounce & Lovers, now thats a flop.

Considering how it's her 3rd BEST and it's limited to 350k, if the album manages to sell like 200k, I don't think it will be a flop.

evolution7931 18th March 2007 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ayu_fan929 (Post 1044266)
Technically, only -WHITE- is the #1 album.


Considering how it's her 3rd BEST and it's limited to 350k, if the album manages to sell like 200k, I don't think it will be a flop.

Sorry then, they're both #1 and #2 albums? Not that different

ImpactBreaker 18th March 2007 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolution7931 (Post 1044264)
That's nice. I'd just like to know your definition of what success would be for this album.

Being able to keep on a solid position, with little variation, instead of ridiculously dropping several positions in the second week could be a sign.

ayu_fan929 18th March 2007 05:47 AM

I'll have to admit the 2nd week sales were a lot lower than what I expected. 'Secret' debuted with a lower 1st week but its' 2nd week sales managed to outsell A BEST 2's 2nd week sales...

Ayumiko 18th March 2007 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 1044268)
Being able to keep on a solid position, with little variation, instead of ridiculously dropping several positions in the second week could be a sign.

second week position is just one position down....exile took the #1 spot.
white: 1 to 2 black 2 to 3. (If you just look at the first post carefully, that #12 spot is for world united chart)



Looking based on the daily indicators, Im very surprised b&l and but/ashio sold so low even though they are limited. Shouldnt the sales be closer to the limited number than it is now? since knowing that they are limited...fans would try to get it before they think will run out right? For someone like kumi who is one of the popular female artists right now still sell so low and so far not at the middle point of the limited number?

ayu_fan929 18th March 2007 06:03 AM

Well for the single, I seriously don't think people knew it was limited. (It's not like it's mentioned in the CM's or anything).


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