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Surreal 3rd April 2007 04:31 PM

Another concidence.
 
Yes yes I know that a lot of artistes use the mirror thing, but I'm just posting it for viewing. So if you are jolin fan trying to jump on me for accusing her of copying, back off. It is a bit funny that the colour scheme is so similar though.


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micster 3rd April 2007 04:32 PM

I see no similarities.......

Sim' 3rd April 2007 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micster (Post 1057623)
I see no similarities.......

Same for me, except the mirror thing that everybody uses like you said =o

Surreal 3rd April 2007 04:39 PM

Yeah, it's just for viewing, I'm not even gonna make any comments about 'copying'. the taiwan media and fans brought this up actually.

ohsixthirty 3rd April 2007 05:30 PM

uhm...ok.

:rolleyes

Keishi 3rd April 2007 05:42 PM

Is it just me who thinks Jolin looks like a runway model? <3

royle 3rd April 2007 05:48 PM

is that jolin ??? 0.o

~*Mabushii*~ 3rd April 2007 05:49 PM

hardly similar.. for only the mirror thing..
but Ayu's picture is much better

Dustie 3rd April 2007 05:52 PM

what a copycat.




LOL.

AyumiSEASONS 3rd April 2007 05:53 PM

XD Omg, before the first picture loaded, I was gonna go "Wow! They really are good at making them similar" and then it loaded and I was like "oh Snap." XD


Anyways, Yes, Mirrors are used alot.

BoA - My Name PV
Yuna Ito - Losin' PV
Ayu - A BEST 2 Scans
Jolin - The Photoshoot above
Rihanna - SOS (Rescue Me) Video
Maki Goto - SOME BOYS! TOUCH & Glass No Pumps PV's (I believe these both had mirrors...)



I suggest you read this post as well Dustie, and you'll see a point. Americans, Koreans, Chinese, Japanese all use mirrors. Luvi De Andre is Latin and she used mirrors in one of her videos as well.

~ayu-cake~ 3rd April 2007 06:43 PM

I see no simalarity.
Other than the obvious mirror.
No coincidence, just a very typical thing to do.

However, I don't see how Jolin looks like a runway model.
That hair is scary :S

mannie 3rd April 2007 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dustie (Post 1057687)
what a copycat.




LOL.

Lol nice reply :P

I see no real similarities either and yes many artists use them!
So meh..

Zacek 3rd April 2007 07:16 PM

This means nothing... how many girls have posed in the same mirror?

Diana 3rd April 2007 08:35 PM

The only similar thing is the mirror.. nothing else.. and a lot of people use mirrors for booklets or whatever (probably..)

Hazuki 3rd April 2007 09:41 PM

Jolin's hair is craaaazy o____O

FuNsTyLe 3rd April 2007 09:44 PM

Jolins pic looks really bad compared to Ayu's.. The color tone and all, looks very amateur-ish, and you can even see those other people on the photo set in the mirrors, looks unprofessional,haha

987654321987 3rd April 2007 10:33 PM

I dunno, yes, a whole lot of ppl use mirror,but with the angle just like ayu?
AND Jolin has been accused to copy ayu for a long time, why use mirror right after ayu has her ablum photos out?

~X2RADialbomber~ 3rd April 2007 10:36 PM

Yeah she also copied Jennifer Hawkins...

Chibi_Venus 3rd April 2007 10:44 PM

I thought this was going to be another "Look! No tattoo!" thread.

Kobayashiwoof 3rd April 2007 10:48 PM

is that Jolin picture a commercial one? because if it is... wow thats bad :P you can see the photographer :P

Ayumiko 3rd April 2007 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 987654321987 (Post 1057886)
I dunno, yes, a whole lot of ppl use mirror,but with the angle just like ayu?
AND Jolin has been accused to copy ayu for a long time, why use mirror right after ayu has her ablum photos out?

actually alot of stuff she does is right after ayu does it...for instance like the outfit ayu wore at music station special when she sang JEWEL with that shiny short dress with the long boots which is also like the gold short dress she wore in A BEST 2 white booklet and also that short dress at music station spring special before she sang memorial address...yea Jolin is wearing that style too

she also recently wore the same dior white dress with the pink square at the top and the style of high heels ayus been wearing just like ayu did from ayu x dior addict photo shoot. It was from a taiwanese tv show and they were showing off jolins concert outfits and her “trend” that they were amazed about and they had this ayumi vs. jolin thing...it was annoying. I thought it was very unneccessary to bring ayu up..and they tried to make it seem like jolin is better...even though her personal stylist did almost all the talking about her style and putting the outfits together while she just kinda stood there...lol

Rurutia 3rd April 2007 11:41 PM

um.....jolin's hair is atrocious.......

Chandrachan 3rd April 2007 11:51 PM

Haha you can see the photographer in the Jolin pic!! ^^
Ayu's pic is way better ofcourse!! ^^

ImpactBreaker 3rd April 2007 11:53 PM

Stupid Jolin, copycat mirror, she can't be anything else other than a failure mirror image of ayu.....cause we all, gosh, everybody knows ayu was the one who invented the glass back in 3000 BC, during the bronze age, not Jolin:irked :irked :irked :irked :irked :irked

minkAYuko 4th April 2007 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyumiSEASONS (Post 1057688)
Anyways, Yes, Mirrors are used alot.

BoA - My Name PV
Yuna Ito - Losin' PV
Ayu - A BEST 2 Scans
Jolin - The Photoshoot above
Rihanna - SOS (Rescue Me) Video
Maki Goto - SOME BOYS! TOUCH & Glass No Pumps PV's (I believe these both had mirrors...)



I suggest you read this post as well Dustie, and you'll see a point. Americans, Koreans, Chinese, Japanese all use mirrors. Luvi De Andre is Latin and she used mirrors in one of her videos as well.

YES
perfume - chocolate disco PV and PB
Nana Katase - Extenden, kiindan no Telepathy, meu amor e (album and singles) there.s even a whole PV.
Yuko ogura did a whole PB with mirrors... (and yes they are more beautiful than the one ayu did sadly)

previews
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/1...ror2ns5.th.jpg
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/6...ror1ur5.th.jpg
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/6013/nanaux6.th.jpg


EDIT:

OMGAD I just notice NANA copycat YUKO or... maybe YUKO DID NANA xD LOL!

truehappiness 4th April 2007 12:04 AM

Looks like Jolin was just electrocuted.

slashess 4th April 2007 12:34 AM

i dunno, mirrors are kinda commmon...i tok the same kind with my senior pics :D

Surreal 4th April 2007 02:14 AM

Being sarcastic or trying to be funny doesn't work with the Taiwanese media. They love such things.

What some of you are seeing are just very mild concidences, and some don't even have similarities at all. But if you live in Taiwan and see Jolin on a regular basis, its very easy to understand why they jump at her when she spots even a bit of similiarity to Ayu - her copying antics are far too long to list - and she doesn't just copy from Ayu - she copies Ayu, BoA, Koda, Namie, and even Mika Nakashima.

It's not that the Taiwanese fans are being over-defensive - it's because Jolin copied too much in the past. She kinda brought trouble to herself and asked for it in that sense.

FeNgZhEnG 4th April 2007 02:25 AM

aww jolin hair is damn ugly in tis pic.. prolly a concidence.. such mirrors are common

CREA.tive 4th April 2007 02:34 AM

What do you mean by ''the color scheme is similar''?

AyUmIXx 4th April 2007 02:46 AM

wah jolin is so sexy there......
the mirror concept is the same..but not with costumes and gestures.. :)

minkAYuko 4th April 2007 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surreal (Post 1058070)
Being sarcastic or trying to be funny doesn't work with the Taiwanese media. They love such things.

What some of you are seeing are just very mild concidences, and some don't even have similarities at all. But if you live in Taiwan and see Jolin on a regular basis, its very easy to understand why they jump at her when she spots even a bit of similiarity to Ayu - her copying antics are far too long to list - and she doesn't just copy from Ayu - she copies Ayu, BoA, Koda, Namie, and even Mika Nakashima.

It's not that the Taiwanese fans are being over-defensive - it's because Jolin copied too much in the past. She kinda brought trouble to herself and asked for it in that sense.

wel,l then donīt be like them, just ignore them. Whatever she did (or keeps on doing) is only her problem, because in the end she will continue on doing it and you will continue on stressing out over something that is really silly (believe me I know lol)

Surreal 4th April 2007 05:15 AM

Oh well, just posting this up because this is Ayu-related. I don't really care much about Jolin. I say good for her if she's no longer doing it. *shrugs*

AyumiSEASONS 4th April 2007 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minkAYuko (Post 1057959)
YES
perfume - chocolate disco PV and PB
Nana Katase - Extenden, kiindan no Telepathy, meu amor e (album and singles) there.s even a whole PV.
Yuko ogura did a whole PB with mirrors... (and yes they are more beautiful than the one ayu did sadly)

previews
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/1...ror2ns5.th.jpg
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/6...ror1ur5.th.jpg
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/6013/nanaux6.th.jpg


EDIT:

OMGAD I just notice NANA copycat YUKO or... maybe YUKO DID NANA xD LOL!


ZOMG I totally forgot about Perfume. xD; I've seen Nana Katase's stuff around, just haven't listened to her. o.O

freedreamer 4th April 2007 11:31 AM

i wanna say..when i saw that picture of jolin...she looks so ewww..sry

Keishi 4th April 2007 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuNsTyLe (Post 1057864)
Jolins pic looks really bad compared to Ayu's.. The color tone and all, looks very amateur-ish, and you can even see those other people on the photo set in the mirrors, looks unprofessional,haha

Well, it could be a making off photoshoot. o_O

extepan 4th April 2007 05:42 PM

rihanna's S.O.S. video also uses mirrors

minkAYuko 4th April 2007 11:27 PM

this is more of a concidence:
Maki Goto - Some boys touch CM
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8638/makirh4.jpg

Lol I stop now xD

PS: Koda kumi and madonna did it too! xD

Impracticable 4th April 2007 11:41 PM

jolin is very ufly and unprofessional in that picture 0__0

hiroshi_ben 5th April 2007 04:40 AM

well...this jolin vs ayu thing is very common in Singapore already~and now people are also starting with jolin copying kouda kumi stuff...

slowmoth 5th April 2007 04:52 AM

Maki Goto did Glass no Pumps PV like that... I do that too when I came into the elevatory :P

rainday 5th April 2007 05:24 AM

The Jolin pic is for a commercial... so for anyone who's saying/going to say "OMG JOLIN COPIED AYU AGAIN", she's not the one who decided to use a mirror... plus... HOW many people have used a mirror in their photoshoot again? Ayu's not exactly the first one either.

alternarist 5th April 2007 02:56 PM

omg. whats the purpose of this thread? how can u compare the elegant ayu with jolyn, who happens to have an ugly wig and an ugly purple outfit.

MemorialAddress 5th April 2007 03:02 PM

Jolin looks so cool!! :)
I wonder when she will have new music? Soon, I think?

:D

panda87 6th April 2007 05:44 PM

daaaaaaaang, jolin looks mad scary! shooooot. she looks hideous XP

but that mirror thing is soooooo commonly used.

m2yu 5th May 2007 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dustie (Post 1057687)
what a copycat.




LOL.

:luv2 i luv u.. ^^ agrees and nods...
y? well like every1 said, its commonly used the mirror i mean..
but whatever ayu does, right after that, we predict sumthing's gonna happen (ehem..) weird huh? heheee :P
btw, she look scary n ugly.. >< gomen neh jolin fans..

evolution7931 5th May 2007 06:05 PM

Uh. I don't even think I have to say anything about this.. it's so pointless.

fanmail 6th May 2007 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micster (Post 1057623)
I see no similarities.......

haha me too :shakehead

xiaou-xijiang 7th May 2007 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micster (Post 1057623)
I see no similarities.......

me neither. but eww. I love that dress but those shoes and that hair. :dead2

emi♡ 7th May 2007 06:46 AM

all she is doing is pointing out what they are saying...

and i mean, they are probably not just pointing out the mirrors, probably also that she has a strapless dress and her shoes are kinda similar....though not really...

if she had worn open-toe pumps i would have laughed...but yeah...wow....what bad photographers for jolin....sad.

MsMiyabi 7th May 2007 08:12 PM

Jolin looks scary XD lol

Choyan 7th May 2007 11:56 PM

*-* I didn't regconize Jolin until someone said it~ XD
hmm
well
mirrors are kinda...greenish XD when you look at them from the side (like..the edge~ it's very green XD)
...you see the photographer in Jolin's one ..eee....XD

cater2u 8th May 2007 08:42 AM

both are weird IMO

Alessia_Tateno 8th May 2007 04:47 PM

U don't really know what do u right?

Everyone uses mirrors, Namie uses in her tours too XD

Vinylfantasy 8th May 2007 08:01 PM

Way to go Ayu.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...a/coadf_04.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...a/coadf_06.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...a/coadf_05.jpg

aYuH-evolution 10th May 2007 01:17 AM

I agree. Many people have used mirrors.

And I personally think that both pictures are different.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainday (Post 1059118)
The Jolin pic is for a commercial... so for anyone who's saying/going to say "OMG JOLIN COPIED AYU AGAIN", she's not the one who decided to use a mirror... plus... HOW many people have used a mirror in their photoshoot again? Ayu's not exactly the first one either.


Alessia_Tateno 10th May 2007 09:35 AM

Also, Ayu isn't the most original artist in this world, she have copied things from other artists too so if u hate Jolin Tsai that much keep it for yourself, or should we start to make Madonna VS Ayu threads to see HOW MANY things Ayu did at the exacly same way of Madonna? there is no point in this thread at all...

Dustie 10th May 2007 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyumiSEASONS (Post 1057688)
I suggest you read this post as well Dustie, and you'll see a point. Americans, Koreans, Chinese, Japanese all use mirrors. Luvi De Andre is Latin and she used mirrors in one of her videos as well.

I suppose you've already read mine, along with 'LOL.' at the end of it ;)

g~sus~ 10th May 2007 11:44 AM

eww....the photographer sucks and she's hideous...

Yukitora 10th May 2007 11:56 AM

That pic of Jolin rocks! The hair is physco! I've never been a fan of the A BEST 2 photoshoots.

Don't forget, YUI did it in CHER.R.Y too :D

Ballerina_xXX 13th May 2007 08:40 PM

I love both of them...but Jolin's looks a little bit JcPenney Catalogue-ish.


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