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AyuHamasaki01 2nd July 2007 07:13 AM

Say the word: Hanabi
 
Hi there!:shihi


I have a question: Is the word hanabi something special?
Because:

Ayumi Hamasaki - HANABI
Ai Otsuka - Kingyo Hanabi (If I'm correct)
Sifow - Natsu Hanabi

Maybe it's nothing special, but I just though it was, well funny or weird.
So my real question is:

what does hanabi mean? (and what do these titles mean?)

THANK YOU

Weslicious 2nd July 2007 07:44 AM

HANABI = Fireworks
Kingyo Hanabi = Goldfish Firework
Natsu Hanabi = Summer Fireworks

I don't think Ai Otsuka's is pluralised, and I'm unsure why. Otherwise that's what they mean.

:)

AyuHamasaki01 2nd July 2007 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weslicious (Post 1128006)
HANABI = Fireworks
Kingyo Hanabi = Goldfish Firework
Natsu Hanabi = Summer Fireworks

I don't think Ai Otsuka's is pluralised, and I'm unsure why. Otherwise that's what they mean.

:)

Okay thank you very much!!!

LOL! So Kingyo means Goldfish??? whaaa, funny!!! :D

Corybobory 2nd July 2007 08:35 AM

the 'hana' part means flower and the 'bi' is fire. I always thought that was kind of neat :) Fireworks are 'fire flowers' :)

SKYia 2nd July 2007 08:36 AM

Kingyo - goldfish, Ningyo - mermaid, two most common :]

^hi is fire but together with hana h changes to b

AyuHamasaki01 2nd July 2007 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corybobory (Post 1128031)
the 'hana' part means flower and the 'bi' is fire. I always thought that was kind of neat :) Fireworks are 'fire flowers' :)

Yeah, that's true... when fireworks "explode" they look like flowers, sort of.
i knew hana was flower but I didn't know what bi was! Thank you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKYia (Post 1128032)
Kingyo - goldfish, Ningyo - mermaid, two most common :]

Ningyou = Doll

:thud

truehappiness 2nd July 2007 08:47 AM

Ningyo is both doll AND mermaid. :|

Calico 2nd July 2007 09:02 AM

^Hooray for Japanese's version of the "homonym"!

However, it should be noted that the characters are different. (Or at least I'm pretty dang sure. That's how it usually works)

fanmail 2nd July 2007 09:25 AM

"Goldfish Fireworks"?? that doesn't sound so pretty =\

Psychotic_X 2nd July 2007 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1128037)
Ningyo is both doll AND mermaid. :|

actually
Ningyo - mermaid
Ningyou - doll

the extended sound changes the word

AyuHamasaki01 2nd July 2007 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psychotic_X (Post 1128105)
actually
Ningyo - mermaid
Ningyou - doll

the extended sound changes the word

Yup, that's true...

They sure have lots of word that look the same:

Ningyo
Ningyou
Kingyo

......

Kodayumi 2nd July 2007 10:39 AM

Japanese is so interesting :D

Foxxy_Fuyumi 2nd July 2007 12:46 PM

oh you forgot the Hanabi song from ikimonogakari xDi

AyuHamasaki01 2nd July 2007 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxxy_Fuyumi (Post 1128196)
oh you forgot the Hanabi song from ikimonogakari xDi

Oh... I see... sorry but I don't know that band :no don't hit me!

AyumiSEASONS 3rd July 2007 11:25 AM

AAA has a song on their new single called Hanabi too. xD I think it's a pretty popular title, ne?

fanmail 3rd July 2007 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyumiSEASONS (Post 1128882)
AAA has a song on their new single called Hanabi too. xD I think it's a pretty popular title, ne?

definately xP

AyuHamasaki01 3rd July 2007 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyumiSEASONS (Post 1128882)
AAA has a song on their new single called Hanabi too. xD I think it's a pretty popular title, ne?

Yeah... that's true...
Maybe Hanabi (fireworks) are special in Japan?

Or maybe the artist just love to watch it? :D

sora-kara 3rd July 2007 04:43 PM

there's also Mahiru no Hanabi by Atari Kousuke

it means "Midday Fireworks"

:) and its a beautiful song!

Aga-chan 3rd July 2007 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calico (Post 1128041)
^Hooray for Japanese's version of the "homonym"!

However, it should be noted that the characters are different. (Or at least I'm pretty dang sure. That's how it usually works)

Yes, they are. ^^ Though they share the first character.
Ningyou - 人(human, person)形(shape)
Ningyo - 人(same as above)魚(fish)
The meaning of ningyou is specially interesting, in my opinion. That a doll has the shape of a human...

As for hanabi: I could imagine that it's probably as popular for imagery in Japan as sakura (cherryblossoms). Because they both represent something beautiful yet fleeting (love, life).

AyuHamasaki01 3rd July 2007 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aga-chan (Post 1129069)
Yes, they are. ^^ Though they share the first character.
Ningyou - 人(human, person)形(shape)
Ningyo - 人(same as above)魚(fish)
The meaning of ningyou is specially interesting, in my opinion. That a doll has the shape of a human...

As for hanabi: I could imagine that it's probably as popular for imagery in Japan as sakura (cherryblossoms). Because they both represent something beautiful yet fleeting (love, life).

About Ningyou and Ningyou you're right: A mermaid is a "human" with a fishtail and a doll is, well a doll in the shape of a human... quite interesting if you think about it, right?

Aga-chan 3rd July 2007 07:00 PM

Japanese language is really interesting when it comes to coined words. ^^ Like hanabi or ningyou. Both have interesting imagery. Like seeing a doll as having the shape of a human being, but still only the shape, nothing else.

AyuHamasaki01 4th July 2007 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aga-chan (Post 1129170)
Japanese language is really interesting when it comes to coined words. ^^ Like hanabi or ningyou. Both have interesting imagery. Like seeing a doll as having the shape of a human being, but still only the shape, nothing else.

Question: Aren't humanshaped dolls suposed to have eyes, a mouth, ears, a nose etc???

Imagine a doll with no nose or ears! that would be hilarious! ;) :yes

Miku 4th July 2007 11:02 AM

capsule has a single called Hanabi too :D

AyuHamasaki01 4th July 2007 03:16 PM

:thud

Japanese singers really do love the word hanabi

:thud

Impracticable 4th July 2007 03:33 PM

Yes they do .. but Ayu's is best!

AyuHamasaki01 4th July 2007 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impracticable (Post 1129774)
Yes they do .. but Ayu's is best!

Oh yes! that's for sure!

austin. ♥ 4th July 2007 03:41 PM

it was in NANA 2 as well. :)
i love that movie.
Nobu is so sexxxy in it! ;D

evolusean 4th July 2007 06:29 PM

Fireworks originated in Asia, specifically, China. They have always been a big part of Asian culture. That's why they are so much more relevant to many artists from that part of the world.

The 形 in 人形 might better be translated as "form", rather than "shape". The word "shape" in English generally coins the image of the silhouette or outside perimeter of an object, which isn't necessarily the case with the Japanese word. "Form" implies the dimensions and general appearance of something.

everlastingRAINBOW 4th July 2007 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyuHamasaki01 (Post 1128934)
Yeah... that's true...
Maybe Hanabi (fireworks) are special in Japan?

Or maybe the artist just love to watch it? :D

Well, they do have Hanabi Festivals every summer :P

sora-kara 4th July 2007 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolusean (Post 1129904)
The 形 in 人形 might better be translated as "form", rather than "shape". The word "shape" in English generally coins the image of the silhouette or outside perimeter of an object, which isn't necessarily the case with the Japanese word. "Form" implies the dimensions and general appearance of something.

i love someone else who understands nuances in language and uses specificity to say exactly what they mean.
:love can i hug you?

Aga-chan 4th July 2007 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolusean (Post 1129904)
The word "shape" in English generally coins the image of the silhouette or outside perimeter of an object, which isn't necessarily the case with the Japanese word. "Form" implies the dimensions and general appearance of something.

Oh, OK. I'm not a native English speaker... Thanks for explaining it. ^^

ALPHY 5th July 2007 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~fanmail~ (Post 1128057)
"Goldfish Fireworks"?? that doesn't sound so pretty =\

Haha. Vibrant, very vibrant.

Miku 6th July 2007 06:14 PM

Akeboshi has a song called Hanabi too :D

evolusean 7th July 2007 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sora-kara (Post 1130080)
i love someone else who understands nuances in language and uses specificity to say exactly what they mean.
:love can i hug you?

Hugs are good! I love hugs! :D

tinka69 9th July 2007 06:49 AM

fireworks huh? strange O.o japanese is strange. but I out-strange them all ^-^

exxondude 9th July 2007 08:23 AM

Hanabi on piano on youtube

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-RYqIy-4PwQ

extepan 10th July 2007 07:03 AM

thanks for the japanese lesson!

sora-kara 10th July 2007 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolusean (Post 1132689)
Hugs are good! I love hugs! :D

( ^o^)/ alright!
*great big hug!*


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