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asian_girlygurl 21st August 2007 03:01 AM

who is better? Ayumi or Namie??
 
i think both, nice music

austin. ♥ 21st August 2007 03:03 AM

Ayu. or why would i be here?
yet another one of these threads..

ayu_fan929 21st August 2007 03:11 AM

Does it really matter who is better?

truehappiness 21st August 2007 03:13 AM

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8406/riotdo0.gif

everlastingRAINBOW 21st August 2007 03:14 AM

Lol, I believe how is better is better.

austin. ♥ 21st August 2007 03:23 AM

WHO'S BETTER? AYU OR PECO?

namiie 21st August 2007 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1175239)

I second this.

v3lun420 21st August 2007 03:49 AM

Love them both, But I like Ayumi's songs better, since her lyrics always touches my heart.

pUrpLeSn0w 21st August 2007 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1175239)

agree agree..
another of such threads..

Ayu'Kiss 21st August 2007 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1175239)


yep. agree too

extepan 21st August 2007 08:54 AM

there are hundred threads like this already. do we really need 1 more?

Azmaria 21st August 2007 09:42 AM

I enjoy the songs of both of them, sometimes I prefer listening only to Namie songs other Ayu, I think both are very good

dhika712 21st August 2007 09:48 AM

i love both..but i listen to namie more often. i like her better these days

micster 21st August 2007 09:51 AM

Ayu roxxor
Namie suxxor - HARD

Kobayashiwoof 21st August 2007 09:59 AM

sifow

..:Hot:Like:Wow:.. 21st August 2007 10:08 AM

FFS! I love both

SunshineSlayer 21st August 2007 12:42 PM

You are not exactly going to get an unbiased opinion on an Ayu board. :)

I love them both, but I don't think they are comparable.

AyUmIXx 21st August 2007 12:49 PM

both of them are my most favorite female japanese singers..
well, ayu got the first, and namie got the 2nd~

and both have different taste of music.. as ayu got the rock pop kind of songs and namie got the Hip Hop kind of songs, o yea, she can dance!! love her dance so much!!! i always enjoy her live DVD concerts.

we can't compare them coz they have different kind of music..

elepop 21st August 2007 12:52 PM

In terms of music, Ayu.

dayumi 21st August 2007 01:07 PM

I love both of them, I like Ayumi's music more than namie, but I like Namie too, she's really really good in her lives, but it doesn't mean that Ayu is bad, Namie is better in live. but Ayumi is better in her music..
their music is different tho! one is rock pop and one is hip hop soo...

[taskin.ayu] 21st August 2007 01:15 PM

They aren't even the same style. XD So.. you can't really compare. :/

ayumisrael 21st August 2007 01:16 PM

Why do we need this thread? That's my question.

fanmail 21st August 2007 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1175239)

lmao ditto!
:eviltongu to your thread!

AyuHamasaki01 21st August 2007 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austin. ♥ (Post 1175251)
WHO'S BETTER? AYU OR PECO?

Koda Kumi...

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1175239)

Yup I second this!
This is one of those useless comparing threads

miniayumi 21st August 2007 01:28 PM

you've angered the masses...

Partino 21st August 2007 03:55 PM

^I don't think you are the right person to make comments about such an issue

tokyoxjapanxfan 21st August 2007 04:54 PM

i think theyre both amazing, but their music is very different (now). when namie was mostly pop i would think its fair to compare them, but now, since she's hip hop, i think their music is too different. ;)

CREA 69 21st August 2007 07:02 PM

I like both of them

Genki+ 22nd August 2007 12:15 AM

I don't listen to Namie so I can't really say...& if I did listen to her I still wouldn't compare...I don't like threads like these :no

Weslicious 22nd August 2007 12:20 AM

What a wonderfully pointless thread.

sifow and Kumi could scratch Namie's and Ayu's eye's out any day though, aswell as out-Engrishing them :P

Diana 22nd August 2007 12:32 AM

Love them both? (I should post something nice) ... I mean, Ayumi has some meaningful songs.. Not like Namie "I am oochie, la la poppin' coochie" :laugh... no offense to Namie

truehappiness 22nd August 2007 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diana (Post 1176090)
Love them both? (I should post something nice) ... I mean, Ayumi has some meaningful songs.. Not like Namie "I am oochie, la la poppin' coochie" :laugh... no offense to Namie

Namie doesn't write her own lyrics though. So you can't really use that excuse. XD While Ayu does. And so does Koda, but... let's not go there. :dead2:dead2:dead2

Impracticable 22nd August 2007 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austin. ♥ (Post 1175251)
WHO'S BETTER? AYU OR PECO?

PECO!!!

Impracticable 22nd August 2007 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1176103)
Namie doesn't write her own lyrics though. So you can't really use that excuse. XD While Ayu does. And so does Koda, but... let's not go there. :dead2:dead2:dead2

I thought Kumi only writes some of her own lyrics?

And dosent Namie produce them all, anyway? So everything is done under her supervision right?

I could be wrong ...

EDIT: sorry, double post.

Weslicious 22nd August 2007 12:43 AM

^^^Not to turn this into a Kuu/Ayu thing, but Kumi writes like 90% of her songs.

Seriously though, Shouldn't there be like a 'Don't post Ayu vs.' in the Ayu section rule. It's alway's going to be Ayu who wins, and it'll save on spam posts.

Diana 22nd August 2007 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1176103)
Namie doesn't write her own lyrics though. So you can't really use that excuse. XD While Ayu does. And so does Koda, but... let's not go there. :dead2:dead2:dead2

Yeah but.. argh, you know what I meant I guess :headache And Kuu wrote some of them on her own.. .I dont know if Namie did by herself ... :/

AyUmIXx 22nd August 2007 01:14 PM

namie doesn't do the lyrics but she's great in the dance~

each of them have talents~

ayu_fantasy 22nd August 2007 02:05 PM

:)....

Ayu... But for those who likes R&B, of course Namie would be great.... :)

Rock ballad= ayu
lyrics=ayu
R&B= Namie
Dance=Namie...

SO it just depends on your preference....

Koda have nice songs too.... But Koda= No respect for body....

"Koda, it isn't sexy anymore, U have gone way beyond sexy....." i think ayu and namie is sexier... cuz they knows how to USE the word sexy in a correct way....

fanmail 22nd August 2007 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weslicious (Post 1176069)
What a wonderfully pointless thread.

sifow and Kumi could scratch Namie's and Ayu's eye's out any day though, aswell as out-Engrishing them :P

BEST POST OF THE THREAD.

I thought this would have been trashed by now. :dead2

alt.total-loser 22nd August 2007 11:11 PM

Sometimes I like Ayu more. And sometimes Namie more. Like right now - I like Namie WAI MOAR.

...wait. What's this thread about again? D: I'm leaving.

ayu1m 22nd August 2007 11:12 PM

LOHOOL

Ayu of corsz?

walking proud 23rd August 2007 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austin. ♥ (Post 1175251)
WHO'S BETTER? AYU OR PECO?

PECO DUH

kaue_ 23rd August 2007 12:16 AM

I don't see the point in asking that in an Ayu forum, but okay! Ayu is better... I think.


Namie I still love you.

Luv ~Venus~ 23rd August 2007 12:25 AM

Hmmm....if it was Lyric-wise, Ayumi...but if it was music-wise, Namie 'cuz I'ma huge (any) R&B fan and Ayumi really hasn't made any R&B songs ('bout the closest R&b song I've heard of Ayu was Daybreak (hal's mix)...if it had any R&B in it) Plus, I find myself lovin' more of Namie's songs than Ayumi's.

v3lun420 23rd August 2007 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weslicious (Post 1176113)
^^^Not to turn this into a Kuu/Ayu thing, but Kumi writes like 90% of her songs.

Seriously though, Shouldn't there be like a 'Don't post Ayu vs.' in the Ayu section rule. It's alway's going to be Ayu who wins, and it'll save on spam posts.

90%? R u sure it isn't reversed? 90% of Kuu lyrics wrote by somebody else?
LOL. Not to be mean but... I knew she did write her own lyrics in some songs, but as far as I know, not more than 5 songs. Correct me if I am wrong

alt.total-loser 23rd August 2007 12:50 AM

Doesn't Kuu write the lyrics for cute songs? I don't think she wrote any for the ****ty songs. I could look at my Black Cherry booklet but... ugh.

It doesn't really matter, though.

ayumisrael 23rd August 2007 12:51 AM

Mods, can you please trash this stupid thread before it's getting worse?

USERS please stop posting, that the thread can be trashed.

alt.total-loser 23rd August 2007 12:53 AM

Puhlease. The thread's gonna get trashed whether moar people post or not, prolly.

Okay, okay. Fine.

Hamasaki_Vaan 23rd August 2007 01:03 AM

Itīs stupid to ask this in an Ayu forum.......

ayumisrael 23rd August 2007 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamasaki_Vaan (Post 1177075)
Itīs stupid to ask this in an Ayu forum.......

It's more stupid that the thread opener actually want to make people to make someone better than the other, as no one is better than no one, and that is a fact.

austin. ♥ 23rd August 2007 01:14 AM

don't forget the trojan.

Hamasaki_Vaan 23rd August 2007 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1177082)
It's more stupid that the thread opener actually want to make people to make someone better than the other, as no one is better than no one, and that is a fact.

I agree, but u should respect otherīs opinions as well

hiroshi_ben 23rd August 2007 01:48 AM

Both of them are great(Im a super fan of both!).Ayu has nice lyrics,cool and huge concerts,creative PVs and nice fashion sense.Namie has great music,can dance well and has pretty good fashion sense too.

But i still prefer ayu though.;p

ayumisrael 23rd August 2007 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamasaki_Vaan (Post 1177089)
I agree, but u should respect other´s opinions as well

Well anyone that is biased (Like more, or she is their most fav) with Namie will say Namie, anyone that is biased with ayu will say ayu, anyone who's biased with another artist will say that artist, I don't think that when people think that artist is better is an opinion...

And it's not an opinion that one is not better than the other, it's a fact.

That's why most of the people hate that stupid discussion.

I think that such threads cause and empower hate towards artists imo.

kirei_ayumi 23rd August 2007 03:29 AM

Ayu most definitely

AyUmIXx 23rd August 2007 03:36 AM

i just hoping that this thread won't turn out to be a "bashing thread"
but weird, when it turns out to be ayu better than kuu, or kuu better than ayu, the thread will full of arguments and in the end, become a bashing thread~

i think namie fans are more cooperative~ :)

but hey, i read some posts got Kuu too..

Luv ~Venus~ 23rd August 2007 11:10 AM

Well, if you guys would just give your honest opinion rather than doing the opposite, there wouldn't be arguments and such going on in the threads.....Now wouldn't that make more sense people!

Foxxy_Fuyumi 23rd August 2007 11:15 AM

Well, Ayumi.

Kodayumi 23rd August 2007 11:26 AM

Both, different personalities :D

YumeHamasaki 23rd August 2007 01:17 PM

too different for a fair comparison. i'm a bigger fan of Ayu because i've heard all of Ayu's songs. Namie's music before the hiphop scene i'm less familiar with though i like some of the stuff i've heard from that era. I listen to hiphop more than rockpop, but Ayu's still number one because i just like her more. No real reason....lol. but still i'd say Namie has the same level of talent just in different areas.

ayumisrael 23rd August 2007 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YumeHamasaki (Post 1177385)
too different for a fair comparison. i'm a bigger fan of Ayu because i've heard all of Ayu's songs. Namie's music before the hiphop scene i'm less familiar with though i like some of the stuff i've heard from that era. I listen to hiphop more than rockpop, but Ayu's still number one because i just like her more. No real reason....lol. but still i'd say Namie has the same level of talent just in different areas.

Hip-Pop, Namie doesn't sing Hip-Hop, and not R&B only Hip-Pop (as written on her album) xDD

VAL 23rd August 2007 01:31 PM

I love Namie Song, bbut Ayumi song better, I love the ayu lyrics !!! but anyway, Ayu & Namie are a good singers !!

miniayumi 23rd August 2007 03:34 PM

I'd say Ayu.

criminal 23rd August 2007 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1177389)
Hip-Pop, Namie doesn't sing Hip-Hop, and not R&B only Hip-Pop (as written on her album) xDD

She does R&B as well, along with pop and hip-pop.

Quote:

Originally Posted by austin. ♥ (Post 1177086)
don't forget the trojan.

my coochie is a-poppin'. D:

austin. ♥ 23rd August 2007 05:24 PM

\o(-:__:)m

Weslicious 23rd August 2007 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v3lun420 (Post 1177061)
90%? R u sure it isn't reversed? 90% of Kuu lyrics wrote by somebody else?
LOL. Not to be mean but... I knew she did write her own lyrics in some songs, but as far as I know, not more than 5 songs. Correct me if I am wrong

Spoiler:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alessia_Tateno (Post 983191)
Yes she writes her lyrics..
Here the list of the songs she wrote:
Trust your Love
Go Together
Your Song
Feel Me
Best Friend of Mine
My Dream
So Into You
Till Morning Comes feat. Verbal
Come Back
Take Back
Can't Lose
Walk
Your only one
One (wrote with Lisa)
Nasty Girl
Love Across the Ocean
Break it Down (wrote with Daisuke Imai)
Rock your body (wrote with Daisuke Imai)
Rain
Without your love (wrote with Daisuke Imai)
Talk to you
Hana (wrote with TOOKO)
Get out the way
Sweet Love (wrote with TOOKO)
Gentle Words
Come with Me
Hot Stuff feat. KM-MARKIT (wrote with KM-MARKIT)
Hands
Hearty
Shake It
Kiseki
Trust You
Chase
LOVE HOLIC
24
Believe
Through the sky (wrote with Hiro Yamaguchi)
Life
Heat feat. MEGARYU
The theme of Sister Jill (wrote with Sachi Bennell)
NO TRICKS
Promise
Star
Butterfly
Your Sunshine
Taisetsuna Kimi he
You (wrote with Yoko Kuzuya)
Candy feat. Mr. Blistah (wrote with Mr. Blistah)
Shake it Up (wrote with Hiroshi Kim)
Feel (wrote with Hitoshi Shimono)
WIND (wrote with Kosuke Morimoto)
Love goes like...
Birthday eve
LIES
Someday
Sweet Kiss (wrote with Hirotake Onishi)
Ningyo Hime
I'll be there
With your Smile
Koi no Tsubomi
Yume no Uta

I don't know about Black Cherry I didnt got it yet..

Alessia wrote that last December. I don't have Black Cherry or BUT/Aisho to hand, but can also add

Puppy
Milk Tea
FREAKY
Sora
Run For Your Life
girls

Maxker 23rd August 2007 10:51 PM

Off course Ayumi, she's the queen of J-pop :D

Edit; What's the point of this tread :tired

Luv ~Venus~ 24th August 2007 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxker (Post 1178059)
Off course Ayumi, she's the queen of J-pop :D

Edit; What's the point of this tread :tired

Ummm, to see who u think is better out of the two!:rolleyes

CHE.R.RY 24th August 2007 01:57 AM

It's just a matter of opinion. There's no fact behind it. I prefer Ayu but that's just my view on it. I like them both either way.

TITANIC 25th August 2007 10:42 AM

music and physically ayu and dance namie...
i love both of them so i can't choose one of them

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 25th August 2007 09:20 PM

Ayu. I've only really liked Come by Namie... although she does have an awesome voice and she is very pretty.

mishidabo 25th August 2007 10:08 PM

Namie, eventho she looks like an alien, she rocks all of her songs

himawari 25th August 2007 10:40 PM

Namie better singer/dancer

Ayu Lyrics and emotion in her songs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mishidabo (Post 1180187)
Namie, eventho she looks like an alien, she rocks all of her songs

:shakehead

Luv ~Venus~ 25th August 2007 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mishidabo (Post 1180187)
Namie, eventho she looks like an alien, she rocks all of her songs

^_^;...Ehhh...I'd say she looks more of a teenager (18 to be exact) than a......alien!!!

mishidabo 25th August 2007 11:27 PM

just for the record, i dont think aliens are ugly, and i dont mean it as an offence

i just think she does ^^

Luv ~Venus~ 25th August 2007 11:28 PM

^lol...Aliens aren't ugly to u?!

Sweet_Ai 25th August 2007 11:29 PM

I like Namie better because I like Hip Hop. I like Ayu because of her fashion and she is pretty. (Both are)

mishidabo 25th August 2007 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1180270)
^lol...Aliens aren't ugly to u?!

they arent ugly, they are just funny XD

Luv ~Venus~ 25th August 2007 11:40 PM

^LOL

@Ai: I really her Hip-hop sound. Yea, Namie definitely has overtaken the J-hip-hop area.

Kagome-chan 25th August 2007 11:53 PM

Ayu Ayu Ayu Ayu Ayu Ayu Ayu Ayu Ayu Ayu Ayu Ayu Ayu!!!

fanmail 25th August 2007 11:57 PM

to the person who said Namie doesn't do R&B ... you're wrong. Namie does have R&B songs, she started with that first (I HAVE NEVER SEEN, Say the word etc). And "Hip-Pop" is just Namie's term for Hip-Hop influenced pop, so, yeah, it's pretty much hip-hop ;)

YumeHamasaki 26th August 2007 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1177389)
Hip-Pop, Namie doesn't sing Hip-Hop, and not R&B only Hip-Pop (as written on her album) xDD

lol, i know. But she was hiphop before she named it herself so i'd say hippop is a style inside of hiphop and r&b. I hope that makes sense cause it does for me...lol, she looks like an alien^^ hahaha, i'd say teenager really....she needs to just mature in the face. I feel like the older she gets the younger she appears^^.

raspberrygashes 26th August 2007 06:11 AM

I think it would be easier to compare them if they had similiar music, but since they don't, I can't say I like one of them better than the other.

ayumisrael 26th August 2007 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fanmail (Post 1180306)
to the person who said Namie doesn't do R&B ... you're wrong. Namie does have R&B songs, she started with that first (I HAVE NEVER SEEN, Say the word etc). And "Hip-Pop" is just Namie's term for Hip-Hop influenced pop, so, yeah, it's pretty much hip-hop ;)

Yeah I thought it was included I just today heard a few of the older songs.

Well not only Namie sing Hip-Pop, Hip-Pop= Poppy rap XD not hip-hop.
It's a poppy rap with a pop tune ^_^ this whole style sorrounds pop XD
I read the definision =P

Kobayashiwoof 26th August 2007 01:39 PM

would her Style album be considered Hip-Hop?

Im pretty sure her SUITECHIC stage was very Hip Hop RnB

ayumisrael 26th August 2007 01:49 PM

HIP-POP - "Pop rap (sometimes referred to as hip pop or even hit pop) is the name given to a style of hip hop that has strong pop music influences. In the pop rap sound, the rougher elements of hip hop music are removed and hooks are used in order to achieve a crossover-friendly sound. By the way of marrying the beats and rhymes with the potent melodic hooks, of course, which would normally be found in the usual pop song structure. It often has the tendency to be less aggressive than other varieties of hip hop."


^I think SUITCHIC was pop/R&B and I think the hip-pop thing started from Style XD

fanmail 26th August 2007 01:51 PM

SUITECHIC was Namie's way of "breaking" into the R&B stuff ... wasn't it? xD

Kobayashiwoof 26th August 2007 02:09 PM

im sure that Style was her RnB, Hip Hop stuff and moved to Hip POP to achevie better sales. Not bashing her or anything.

fanmail 26th August 2007 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kobayashiwoof (Post 1181007)
im sure that Style was her RnB, Hip Hop stuff and moved to Hip POP to achevie better sales. Not bashing her or anything.

that's all true xD SUITE CHIC had something to do with her transition to R&B and stuff though >_<

ayumisrael 26th August 2007 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kobayashiwoof (Post 1181007)
im sure that Style was her RnB, Hip Hop stuff and moved to Hip POP to achevie better sales. Not bashing her or anything.

Well from Namie's Style - "Original is the best" =P

I think the album called Style 'cause she might be sampled some songs with the new hip-pop style but I'm not sure... It's pretty hard with her xD

panda87 26th August 2007 05:47 PM

why do u have to do this? sheesh. both are equally balanced, fillin in for the good and bad of each other in their greatness.

Cihuacoatl 26th August 2007 09:26 PM

AYUMI of course, Naime is so cute and she sing very good but she donīt have that think that i donīt now and Ayumi yes, I like both but of course Ayu is my goodness.:yes

ayu99persen 27th August 2007 11:32 AM

ayumi =better in style,concept,and cute ness,n music,and her interact with fans
namie = better in voice,great body.

i think ayu's more talented


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