~Chart & Sales~ talkin' 2 myself Single
 

First Week Total Sales:

Position: #1
Total First Week Sales: 70,325

2nd Week Position: #4
2nd Week Sales: 18,653
Two Weeks Total Sales: 88,978

talkin' 2 myself sales thread
 

Ayumi Hamasaki's 42nd single, as expected, debuted at #1 on the oricon charts. The single, expected to sell about 120,000 thousand units in its first week, sold about 15,010 copies in its first day. Using the "1.75" indicator, since many stores and online retailers are excluded in daily sales, we get first day sales of about 26,268 units.

1st Day Estimate - 15,010 x 1.75
1st Day Indication - 26,268
1st Day Position - #1

Oh my god. so low for ayu.
i wonder if this one will pass the 100,000 mark ... at all?
im worried for it.

:'(

you beat me to maknig a thread. XD

BUT MINE ALREADY HAS THE FIRST DAY STUFF. :)

YAYYYY.

That's not true. NINKI is just a poll to know the interest of people in the song, not expected sales.

Anyway, ~26k copies sold in the first day is kinda low for her. Hope she doesn't drop too much in the upcoming days.

lol I just take it from oricon when they post it (or in total weekly sales from other source) but let's leave people for an hour with hype up XD

(sorry for making first lol XDD)

Are these the official first day sales or the predicted? I'm confused. :p

[Chart & Sales] talkin' 2 myself Ranking #1 in ORICON
 

talkin' 2 myself

Day 1

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Index: 15010
Estimated sales: 15010 x 1.75 = 26268

Those are the first day sales from oricon.

1st Day
Position: #1
Sales: 15,010
Total Estimated Sales: 26,267

mehh.

stop with your pretty titles!

Well oricon shows 15,010 XD x1.75 it's 26,267 ^_^

heh 1st to reply :) i knew the single will hit n1 :P this is ayu ;)

yeah sorry i forgot to include the "10" in mine. XD i was wrong ...

1 chart thread is enough i think

ugly sales

:/

thanks! 4 the info!

Hmmm...it might be around/lower than B&D/Pride's 1st week?

It might be like kumi's single I suppose...

i think it did pretty good on its first day of sale

I think its bad. I think she will sell 80.000 - 90.000 Singles in the first week.

Generally I wouldn't say it's actually bad, considering Angela Aki is one of the populars (her HOME sold around 530,000) and her TODAY album sold first day less than ayu's single's first day (of course the album will end up selling more 'cause it's an album)... and kumi's last single..., Generally sales became really really lower.
People almost don't buy CDs at all anymore...

Well I'm finally back from Japan...I managed to get a copy on the 18th in Japan by taking a detour to Shibuya before I went to the airport lol. Soooo happy I was able to get it. Buuuut no pic on the 109, what the crap! Would've looked sooo good on the 109... Promotion is kinda lame! I saw one friggin billboard in Ginza and it was in the middle of nowhere! I want more Ayu everywhere!

And what the crap is wrong with people on oricon, they keep posting a bunch of smack about the single! Rockin good single~ But look at all the 1/5s they keep putting up! If this single doesn't do well, then I have no faith in the Japanese market. I'm gonna blast t2m tomorrow on my shiny new d-snap. WAH.

is it good sale ? the real number is 15010 or 26268 ? '__' (sorry I don't understand -__-')
First day 's sale of glitter was ?

People just don't get what's a high quality single/album anymore.
t2m is one of the highest and look how they treat it :o

Ummm. Not bad.

But "glitter/fated" had 23,000+ for sales point in the first day. The "t2m" first day sales point is lower than "glitter/fated"'s 2nd day's sales point.

^i think its doing good already...nowadays very few people would like to buy singles..

People just don't get what's a high quality single/album anymore.
t2m is one of the highest and look how they treat it :o
Almost everyone download (legally or not legally) or just buy or wait for the album...

^i think its doing good already...nowadays very few people would like to buy singles..

this 1st day sales lower than glitter..
hope this week she will get 1st weekly chart so ayu have 17 consecutive singles at #1
^^

Ok so apparently people post smack on amazon.co.jp and then Oricon displays that. zomg I don't like these people lol.

It already has like 99 reviews up. Heyyyyy masa for the defense! go go go~

Oh crap guys, I just realized. Like, it's only the last 10 or so reviews that are all 1star. The first 90 or something have a ton of solid 5/5s hahaahaha WOOOO. Stupid Oricon needs to randomly display reviews.

yeah right singles aren't that great... I never buy singles O_o

If it will be #1 weekly then ayu will break the record for the artist with most #1 consecutive singles artist in Japan (or female & solo artist)?

lol sorry, I just realized that there are 99 reviews on amazon. Apparently the recent 10 or so are chock full of 1/5s. Buuut if you look at the others, there are a LOT of solid 5/5s WOOOO

masa posted too, it was a good post, go masa!

But seriously, I don't understand how people write these lame critcisms. They keep calling her like...bakemono. like some kinda hideous monster. I remember reading one that was like "odoru na! migurushii kara" which means like "zomg don't DANCE it's fugly." mi [watching] + kurushii [painful] = migurushii (I love Japanese haha). I need to punch some of these people out, seriously you guys...

I guess the Japanese prefer cheerful/sad song over rock? o_o

This is 7k lower than glitter sold on the first day? Thanks for the news. Well, I hope it will get a boost tomorrow as this single sure deserves to sell good!

Yeah, some of those reviews of the singles are just plain stupid. I have stopped to read them a long time ago @#%$ :P

What's wrong with the sales? She's #1, what more do we actually need =x Thanks for sharing :)

wonder...why it can be so low..hopefully second day sales and for the rest week of the week sales will become stable not drop down so much

Except for the Johnny's boys.
They seem always sell more than 160k.
for example:
Kinki Kids first week sales = 190495
Arashi first week sales = 192196

So it's not like the sales decrease in general, but maybe they just got tired of Ayu? >_<
You can see the reviews of t2m on amazon japan, who gave it 1 over 5 stars, mainly complaining how she released the singles way too quickly (2 months spare).
I mean, come on! Ayaka did the same thing, so does Angela Aki, Arashi and Kinki Kids (released album and single in 2 months spare), I don't see people complaining much...

*sighs*
poor Ayu.

What? they're horibble X_X People are really really bored.
They even don't like ayu so how come they even write a review about one of her singles?
I highly dislike people like that. BAKA.

So how will you explain for example kumi's last single sales?
From a high popularity, look at her sales for the present single now.
And Angela as well.

BTW you actually can't compare popular boy bands to female solo artists.
Sales are low because people get tired of ayu is the same as my name is Bloody Mora. As I see it generally sales are decreasing a lot. Not just for ayu.

Ya, i think sooo

people are considering to wait for album, which is almost the same price with hell lots more songs than single. besides, download link is everywhere to be found.

That's why.
And koda kumi sales this time really low, even her popularity is quite high now in Japan (i think so,,,)

Just don't bother those people guys, as long as she produce great music I'm happy.

I'm sad. Where is the awesome sales that Oricon said to us? =/

Hope with the days the single get better with sales.

Well I agree with you guys, that the sales are decreasing.
for me it's a good sales, and the sales is even higher that Angela Aki's album!

concerning her "dancing abilities" he's right, no matter how you put it.

Not really. The only JE group that I think has gone against the downward trend is Arashi and to an extent Kanjani 8. As for KinKi, they've had sales decreases but maybe not as much as what the general industry is experiencing.

Or maybe YUI's My Generation/Understand since that single had an index of ~14000 and ended up with ~79000 1st week.

No he is not, ayu danced really good, anyone can dance, just because she doesn't do that casually it doesn't mean she dance less good than Namie.
I really don't think so.
Her dance was flawless there was nothing wrong she'd done.
Her dancing abilities depends on how much she do that and what she want to do.
Not if she can or not, 'cause anyone can dance. It's not a matter of if she's got it or not.
10% is talent 90% is the perseverance.

I'm kinda disappointed. WTF is going with the Japan? CLAP & LOVE and Why were hits and didn't sell more than 30k.

The boybands are making the sales nonsense. I'm still very feel for Ayu. It's her best single since a long long long long time. Probably the stupid persons prefer buy generic singles like Ikenai Taiyou.

They prefer highly cute songs or catchy pop songs, or boy bands songs.

>.<
Even ken hirai's single didn't do good...
The Japanese are hard people musically.

first of all, relax. it's just my point of view.
that's why i didn't compare her with koda, sure it's decreasing, but i was just saying about not all artist has low sales (hence the example), so there are some ppl who actually still buy CDs.

and no i'm not a person who would jump on conclusion, ayu has low sales = she's sucks whatsoever!!1one!1
i'm still support her no matter what. been too long being her fan...

this single is better than glitter but why the 1st day sales worse than glitter??
who in #2 and #3 place??
is it possible ayu replaced by them??

^Because the japanese don't really mind if the single is better or not unfortunately =\

#2 one I don't know who is it but their sales are 11471
#3 is KinKi Kids and their sales are 2904

hopefully they don't replace ayu.

but just wait guys, it's only a day, a bad 1st day sales doesn't mean it's going to be bad right?

the thing is... she didn't exactly dance. at least not under my definition. to swirl around with your arms and shaking your ass off while walking an imaginary catwalk is not exactly dancing, you know. imho she's just been lazy with that PV.

and she'll NEVER reach namie's abilities. the only PV which comes to my mind where she actually danced is INSPIRE and the choreography was awesome, that's why I absolutely love it. well, I don't know her pre-MY STORY PVs, but I guess she's just staring/walking all the time, trying to be cute, as usual.

#2 is Tohoshinki/Dong Bang Shin Ki. 1st day sales are usually the largest out of the entire week. (i.e. glitter/fated's 1st day was ~37% of the entire 1st week sales)

CLAP & LOVE/Why has now sold ~42k. (The +DVD version helped boost the sales)

Oh, I didn't saw that. Well but it's really low sales to a Final Fantasy song, right?

oh DBSK at #2..
i think they won't replace ayu because ayu do pretty well in 1st day..
the 2nd place need 4k more to beat ayu..

hope together

and what's wrong with that? She is a SINGER after all not a dancer.
If I would want to see dancers perfromances I wouldn't look at a singer dances (not even Namie's because I like her because she's a singer I don't really mind her dancings anyway).
And ayu won't reach her abilites because she doesn't plan to dance and she wants to be more of a singer.
The dancing for that PV was an artistic thing, to show rage, it really fitted the song, I really don't think she wanted to say "look I'm cool, I'm dancing."
ayu was never the dancer type and I really hope she'll never will because she's perfect the way she is xD.
And no in most of her PVs she's not cute, she has a REAL story around them, that makes the PV interesting, without dancing all the time.
If you don't like those types of PVs then that's your option ^_^. I don't think ayu should be critisized because she doesn't dance, or just danced artistically in 3 of her PVs in her entire career to do something different.

I think that person was just being bully and don't even care with anything ayu ever did. I doubt he even like anything about her, that's why I was annoyed about what he wrote.

ahhhh...disappointing...hope she still gets #1...SHE MUST!

Of course not everyone's sales are low, but usually the high sellers are boy bands or artists with really good tie-ins singles or of course cute cute poppy songs and catchy pop songs xD.
(I wasn't really mad lol XDD)

The only thing that made me feel horrible about it today were the lifeless people on amazon that really wanted to show how they hate ayu reviewing the single ^_^.
They don't have to like anything about ayu of course, but if they don't they should just ignore her and not go mental over her. xD seriously.

I agree with you ayumisrael. She's not a dancer, SHE'S THE MOST COMPLETE JAPANESE SINGER.

The people are wanting to place the guilt in the dance of the PV. What it is happening? But that it drugs.

Everybody always wants to blame Ayu for the PV or music. It is not well thus. The Japanese sales are really low lately and seem that it does not have as to revert this state.

“Boybands” are making with that the artists are with the low sales and this is fact!

you can hopefully evaluate her singing abilities realistically. @__@ I don't mind a bit dancing in the PV to give the song some extra vibe.

after the momentum PV I would have liked to shoot her. :yes it's just not my taste, but I accept your opinion, anyway. :0

*cough* however, she's been lazy */cough*


uhh, I haven't written anything to the sales yet, eh? well, they're a tad bit disappointing .___. I expect something around koda's sales for ai no uta. her second week drop will be horrendous as always.

Yeah, there always to be something like "the song sucked, the PV sucked, ayu was wrong" and stuff, but there's not way it's actually a general decrease, it's always "ayu" who sucked...
not.

Suddenly when ayu really really has a good single that even on AHS (here) most of the people liked, the sales are low and suddenly blames go on the single after all the good stuff that been said about it XD that's funny.

Thanks, I know how you feel too xD
For some people story lines PVs can be really boring and for some dance PVs.

I actually like both and when I see a good PV I just like it (no matter what was its type).
maybe ayu could've danced more, but even if ayu would dance like namie (not saying she is or ever will, just for the case) he would say exactly the same thing... why? 'cause he still hates ayu. People who hate ayu will always find something bad to say or how to critisize her.

i think DBSK is really a big threat for ayu this week...hopefully she can maintain her position. sigh...its really frustating when we can't do anything, we can just depend on ayu fans at japan to make her get number one position

Yes. It's like vogue. When the vogue is down the people hate that a lot. I hate false Ayu fans. I'm with Ayu until the ending!

It's not looking good so far...Ayu doesn't really have a strong lead; the #2 single sold 11471 units. Also, Amazon Japan users are giving the t2m single a 3.5 stars/5 rating only :no

Seems like she's goin' continue her #1 streak and it's seems like she's going to sell 100k in her 1st week. Woot! Go Ayu!

if we all had to stay with artists until their end, they could happily produce crap music into all eternity. fandom is exchangable, your taste changes and so on. I don't think it's right to hate people who have just changed their taste and now say something negative about her. @_@" but surely there are also some people who just hate on principle, lol. that's so absolutely lol, that it's almost forgivable.

Ayu never disappoints me with songs. Absolutely NEVER. She really won't make me feel sad. When I listened to decision, I found that he would go to be horrible, preview I seemed rotten. But I deceived myself completely as always. Ayu disappoints never me with songs. Not EXACTLY!

Well they're from avex too and since ayu is on avex as well I think they planned more that ayu will get the #1 spot this week or elseway they would just release it on another date... I don't think they wanted to break her #1 streak xD

I think that those people that hate on principle or just don't like ayu anymore should avoid saying anything about her and just ignore her instead of wasting their time saying negative things about her xD They definitly can do better things like saying positive things about artists they do like.

Well, just because you don't like an artist doesn't mean you can't be objective when writing a review, though.

You can't blame the worse first day sales of talkin' 2 myself on the fact that people don't buy CDs that much. Face it, if you've been supporting an artist from the start of the decade, a lot of people are bound to get bored of them. PLUS the few casual fans that Ayumi has might prefer a poppy sound over a rocky sound.

Anything under 150k for that is a disgrace. D:

avex trax care about Ayumi's streak. If they had thought that DBSK can sell more copies than Ayumi, they wouldn't have let DBSK release on the same day as Ayumi.

So if I hate an artist and will obviously write negative things about him will my review be objective? I don't think so...

I for one even don't do this because I think it's cruel and really subjective, because things I will write about him won't be true, they'll just be because of the very fact I don't like him/hate him...

obviously, you can't differentiate between blind hate and dislike. @_@" objective opinions are, by the way, merely a fairytale. we're all bound to be subjective. if people don't like something, why should they shut up?

so true. ^___^

Because they wouldn't feel the same if people would do the same to them, and believe me they would care afterwards.
Plus they can do a variety of other things, showing hate for someone is just a waste of time, it won't progress one anywere. It's just being mean. so you actually ask "if people want to be mean why should they shut up?" if you'll think about it it's exactly the same.

criticism |= hate

Umm..guys shouldn't week be...you know....celebrating Ayu's daily no.1 instead...well....agruing with each other?! ^_^; We've all that time when we disliked an artist, we say mean things about them. So if u look at, we are all fakers and mean! So what's the agruing for!

Awesome first day and it is 26 K
t2m is a hit!!! i personally feel it is better than glitter/fated...
Hope it reaches the sales greater than the 41st single:innocent

No, the whole point is that you don't have to write negative things if you hate an artist. You can suck your e-pride up and say stuff like "Even though I don't generally like ____, I am quite fond of this song."

Wow some of you people need to get out. Seriously if this single doesn't sell well it doesn't mean her music is crap. It just means Japan has really bad taste. I mean this single is really good and if Japan can't see that, maybe they just want to stick with some random rubbish with no talent. At least she's still getting #1.

Maybe it's the fact that there was only one performance yet. Maybe more performances will change this single's sales.

hmm..disappointed with ayu fans in japan...t2m actually sell lower then glitter/fated..people are so hyped up with this single yet the sale figures reflected the opposite.

DBSK is a great threat to ayu's streak..we all know that ayu's recent singles excel at first week's sales but has short chart life...and in addition her sales may not maintain at around 8~14k every day for a week..while DBSK's sales may be more stable due to the boy band factor..thus im sure that there will be a stiff competition between DBSK and ayu in terms of single sales..hope that ayu will still be able to maintain her streak..which is very essential for her career.

this single is really one of her best .T

I know it awful but people generally want to be the big voice and voice their opinions. It may not be what everyone would do and i agree people shouldn't do it at all in such ways but thats life sadly.

It's hard to generalise it theres a toone of reasons why her sales are going down and some aren't even her fault. Just have to face it society is changing and Ayu has been around for a long time. I mean yeah there might be the reasons of sales but its only one factor its not the main factor wither its just to hard to generalise.

I like the single and theres nothing wrong with it. What i say and think compared to others si two different things.

Okay her dancing wasn't so great but I've seen so much worse in J-Pop. A load of girl/boybands have these retarded dances which make me think I'm back to kindergarten. Seriously dancing is so not something most of the Japanese stars excel in. Most artists just have a simple choreography or prance around like idiots. Only serious singers-dancers like BoA pull it off well.

In any way, I bet whoever said it was some annoying person who can only make themselves feel better by insulting a diva.

sales arent very high~~~ hope it goes higher!!
thanks for the info!

I'm with you Demure_Dusk, for me as long as she produce great music for her fans I'm happy. and not all #1 is the best right?

Demure_Dusk, you has the better comments always XD

Really, I totally agree with you.

Doesn't it seem that the female singles this year are on the decline?

Thanks Honey and dayumi :) Well female artists don't seem to get that much attention as boybands I guess... I imagine it's because teenage girls are the ones who are more likely to purchase multiple copies and be obsessed with every single release.

Even though I love Morning Musume, I love more how Ayu can beat their single sales in just one day lol

I just think we should be happy that ayu will get another #1!
The sales aren't the worse, really XDDDD
On this week ayu's single will sell more than all of the other singles in Japan.
And even if the sales aren't high, and even if ayu won't get #1 (well she will but anyway) she is still the greatest for me of course and will always be ^_^. ayu belongs to her fans and people who like to listen to her xD and only for us she enjoys doing her work as a huge quality singer.

omg how many threads like this?

OMG. Ayu deserves so much more T__________T

Well sales aren't that good either but I guess we have to deal with it. In the end though getting yet another #1 is a good thing. Hopefully it'll pick up with performances and appearances.

However I blame the sales factor on avex. They were pretty cheap this time and it showed really blatantly. The songs were completely awesome but the rest was seriously below Ayu's standard. Can't expect awesome sales with some cheap artwork and also two cheap pvs. Usually in a single she has one pv which is boring while the other has something appealing, but this time.. both have nothing special. Granted they're not bad, but they're just the typical pvs I see from the rest of the J-Pop world. To be honest I wouldn't pick this up just by looking at the cover :no

I really don't understand though why they chip in money for her to go to LA just to record music and not take advantage and shoot something more interesting to the audience. Seriously can't she just go to a regular studio in Japan and record? It's strange sometimes how avex's creative marketing works.

I seriously wonder what some of you will say the day Ayu's #1 streak finally breaks. Some of you are WAY too accustomed to her being on top: you need to accept that there will come a day she won't be anymore.

Anyway, I think, considering how low sales in Japan have been for the past year, that this is actually really good. Some artists who have singles in the top 10 don't even debut for the week with a number like that.

That's exactly what I always say, I hope people here don't like ayu because rankings or/& sales XD

Actually boybands also experience large (or even larger) drop in sales.

Well usually female singers show their strength in albums.