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ComatoseBunnySnatcher 7th November 2007 10:17 PM

TA Ayu's message ~Together when...~
 
(I don't think anyone posted this yet. credits to ayuchina , ayunite!, Alexander de Aaroy, ayu~wonderland and ayumi-hamasaki.net.)


Credits: 小冰@ayuchina

デジタルシングル
No.200 2007年11月07日 (水) 4時2分

とゆー形で、今回の新曲はリリースとなります
デジタルシングルと言っても、ちゃんとジャケ写もPVも
あります。

面白い試み。だなぁ今日は、「Together When...」のサビの詞で締めくくろう。

ありがとうって言いたかった
ありがとうって言えなかった
だってそれじゃまるで永遠のサヨナラみたいで

悲しすぎるから
いつかまた僕は僕に生まれ変わって
君を探す旅に出るんだろう

This is the first time that AYU release a digital single
COVER and PV have completed.

ENDing was the lyric of 「Together When...」

I wanted to say thank you
But thank you was not able to be said
Goodbye of the eternity ..as if.. in it because.

Because it is too sad
Moreover, I will go out to travel that is reborn to me and looks for
you some time. (excite.co.jp translated )

Foxxy_Fuyumi 7th November 2007 10:25 PM

COVER AND A PV??
OF A DIGITAL SINGLE?
WOW

stickyrice 7th November 2007 10:26 PM

the lyrics sound depressing =(

Anyways, looking forward towards the cover and PV^^

zoomzoom 7th November 2007 10:27 PM

Nice, it gets a pv! :D .. but a real translation please?

Lee_Hamasaki 7th November 2007 10:28 PM

i was sure of the pv^^ and now i'm happy for the cover XD

bluegie 7th November 2007 10:32 PM

i wanna hear the song now....

PrincessAyu 7th November 2007 10:32 PM

if it gets a PV and everything then why does it have to be a digital single -_- bah

Queen Bee 7th November 2007 10:33 PM

I can't wait to see the cover and hear the song.

Foxxy_Fuyumi 7th November 2007 10:33 PM

^ good point princessayu!

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 7th November 2007 10:34 PM

^ So it won't be B&D ~the sequel~

Aga-chan 7th November 2007 10:42 PM

^Yeah, I also think that could be the reason. And maybe avex wants to try new ways of releasing for ayu? Since it worked for others (Hikki, Kumi) why wouldn't it work for ayu, too?
I don't understand what's so bad about a digital single. If it would be a CD release, I'm sure people would be complaining, too...

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 7th November 2007 10:43 PM

^ everyone complains for every effing thing.

Beauty4123 7th November 2007 10:44 PM

yesssss a PV! cannot wait.

Ryoko 7th November 2007 10:50 PM

better translation:

i wanted to say thank you,
but i couldn't (say thank you)
(not sure of the last line, its something like: but then, in that case, it's as though it's the eternal farewell)

because it's too sad,
someday, again, i will be reborn
and probably set out on a journey to search for you

Something like that, I haven't been studied Japanese in a couple of months but thats the basic picture, I'm sure evolusean will come up with a much better translation.
romaji:

arigatou to iitakatta
arigatou to ienakatta
datte sore ja maru de eien no SAYONARA mitai de

kanashisugiru kara
itsuka mata boku wa boku ni umarekawatte
kimi o sagasu tabi ni deru n darou

Aga-chan 7th November 2007 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nippon (Post 1228212)
^ everyone complains for every effing thing.

Yes I know... Human nature probably. In the end it's ayus/avex' decision. We'll even get a cover and a PV! And "Together When..." will be on the new album, so we will have it in CD-quality anyway.

Foxxy_Fuyumi 7th November 2007 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aga-chan (Post 1228210)
^Yeah, I also think that could be the reason. And maybe avex wants to try new ways of releasing for ayu? Since it worked for others (Hikki, Kumi) why wouldn't it work for ayu, too?
I don't understand what's so bad about a digital single. If it would be a CD release, I'm sure people would be complaining, too...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nippon (Post 1228212)
^ everyone complains for every effing thing.

Jeex..Now we cant say our opinions..?
=\

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 7th November 2007 10:52 PM

thanks for the translation Ryoko

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxxy_Fuyumi (Post 1228225)
Jeex..Now we cant say our opinions..?
=\

that would be a... no.

jk,

but seriously guys.... don't hate. appreciate.

austin. ♥ 7th November 2007 10:57 PM

She makes it sound as if she's leaving or something. :[

ayumisrael 7th November 2007 10:58 PM

YAY

Foxxy_Fuyumi 7th November 2007 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nippon (Post 1228226)
thanks for the translation Ryoko



that would be a... no.

jk,

but seriously guys.... don't hate. appreciate.

You're right.
But I dont knw, having a PV and stuff...I just dont get it.
But of course I'll aprecciate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by austin. ♥ (Post 1228230)
She makes it sound as if she's leaving or something. :[

Me?
AUSTIN GRRRSHH!

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 7th November 2007 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxxy_Fuyumi (Post 1228234)
You're right.
But I dont knw, having a PV and stuff...I just dont get it.
But of course I'll aprecciate.


Cool.
I guess the cover would be just like any other itunes type of cover, and a pv to promote it for some serious HEAVY DOWNLOADING!

austin. ♥ 7th November 2007 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxxy_Fuyumi (Post 1228234)
Me?
AUSTIN GRRRSHH!

No, Ayumi! :P

hightea_xx 7th November 2007 11:03 PM

ありがとうって言いたかった
ありがとうって言えなかった
だってそれじゃまるで永遠のサヨナラみたいで

悲しすぎるから
いつかまた僕は僕に生まれ変わって
君を探す旅に出るんだろう

"I wanted to say thank you
(but) I couldn't say thank you
In the end it seems like it was the eternal farewell

Because it's too sad (heart breaking, etc)
When I am reborn (as me)
I'll go on a journey to look for you"

Foxxy_Fuyumi 7th November 2007 11:04 PM

Oh....












*leaves without honour*

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 7th November 2007 11:04 PM

I think she means ( in Tw...) that she will someday find a way to return to person and say what she could'nt.

Foxxy_Fuyumi 7th November 2007 11:06 PM

Nagaseeeeeeeeeeeeee ^^

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 7th November 2007 11:09 PM

maybe.

cloud♥honey 7th November 2007 11:14 PM

It sounds like a good-bye for us. That's so sad, it makes me remember SAYONARA, ORANGE RANGE's song. Awesome lyrics! I hope the melody will fit with the lyrics too.

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 7th November 2007 11:17 PM

Ayu said she'll keep working late into her years.

I would'nt worry until there's an official good-bye song.

Bigtop 7th November 2007 11:20 PM

Thanks for sharing the details! Can't wait for these...

ayumisrael 7th November 2007 11:34 PM

I don't think that it's a farewell but the opposite.

Foxxy_Fuyumi 7th November 2007 11:36 PM

Humm farewell, a good album name
LOL

ayu_fan929 8th November 2007 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrincessAyu (Post 1228191)
if it gets a PV and everything then why does it have to be a digital single -_- bah

Because it's the lead album track.

alt.total-loser 8th November 2007 01:11 AM

Ayu's first digital single - I'm glad I'm part of the fandom right now.

...Ayu hype... starting... ~

extepan 8th November 2007 01:29 AM

oh i want a physical release :(

truehappiness 8th November 2007 01:43 AM

It'll be physically released in the album. Jeez.

And people stop complaining about the stupidest things. There's not even a point in complaining about some of the things you guys are mentioning. It's like whining for the sake of whining. >>

kotora 8th November 2007 01:51 AM

Remember ayu said an important person,for her, passed away ?
I think this is the song for that person.

truehappiness 8th November 2007 02:05 AM

Actually, she wrote the song and did all the work before the person passed away..

I think it was during recording/just before recording when she found out..

ll moments ll 8th November 2007 02:11 AM

awww. looks like this will be a very depressing song. :(

can't wait! XD

kotora 8th November 2007 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1228376)
Actually, she wrote the song and did all the work before the person passed away..

I think it was during recording/just before recording when she found out..

What if she changed the lyrics when she found out that the important person passed away?

That would be possible.

s1012h 8th November 2007 02:15 AM

i'm hoping to god that it's a good ballad
her ballads have been so mediocre lately
and there better be a bridge with some words haha
she hasn't had those in a while... except for decision :)

truehappiness 8th November 2007 02:23 AM

I think it happened after the HeyHeyHey! recording that teth went to, which means that the lyrics were the same beforehand... [He heard the same lyrics so.. yeah..]

HiruNoKaze 8th November 2007 02:35 AM

Hey guys, I noticed the message wasn't fully translated so I gave it a shot. As with any translation, please remember to always be a little skeptic ;)
-----------
Digital Single
No.200 November 11, 2007 (Wednesday) 4:02am

This is how the new song will be released.
Even though it's a digital single, there will still be a cover shot and a PV.

It's an interesting experiment. I'll end with the lyrics to the climax of "Together when..."

I wanted to say thank you
I couldn't say thank you
But if it's like that, this seems as if it's goodbye forever

Because it's too sad
Someday, again, I'll be reborn as myself
And I'll embark on a journey to find you
--------------

She sure stays up late...whatever happened to beauty sleep...she obviously doesn't need it haha.

Qt Mashi 8th November 2007 02:46 AM

^ lol thanks for the translation, Ayu is staying up relli late!

the lyrics sound so sad...

panda♥ 8th November 2007 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1228376)
Actually, she wrote the song and did all the work before the person passed away..

I think it was during recording/just before recording when she found out..


kind of like "poker face"?

Zeke. 8th November 2007 04:10 AM

I remember reading that she only gets like 4 hours of sleep and that's all she needs O.o

alt.total-loser 8th November 2007 04:12 AM

4 hours is plenty of sleep. Seriously. That's how I much I tend to get.

Zeke. 8th November 2007 04:13 AM

Wow. I need 10 to feel 100%.

truehappiness 8th November 2007 04:31 AM

I think 4 hours is good if you have a way to get up [alarms and so on..]

After a few hours though, you go into that deep sleep that is hard to get out of..

evolution7931 8th November 2007 04:31 AM

I consider myself lucky to get like 6 hours or more.. normally I get 4 or 5
And I agree with TH.. stop whining about it being a digital single.. you still get a PV and a cover, you still get a new song.. it's everything a physical single has minus the pretty packaging... you're basically getting everything you'd normally get... do you need the pretty packaging THAT bad? god.. you'll get it with the album

alt.total-loser 8th November 2007 04:33 AM

Look! No extra monies!

evolution7931 8th November 2007 04:35 AM

^umm huh?

truehappiness 8th November 2007 04:36 AM

I just wonder how the chart trajectory on iTunes' top 10 will be like..

Hopefully she stays in the top 20 [there are some releases that have huuuuge longetivity on iTunes..]


[Basically, no extra money = no extra money to pay for a physical case, booklet, DVD for the studio and the consumer. Overall, a digital release is very very cost effective :x]

Ayumiko 8th November 2007 04:41 AM

Even though I've been wanting a physical winter ballad single from ayu really badly...but this digital single is not bad...we still get to see the cover and pv. The only down side is I don't get to hold it in my hands...lol Its good ayu is experimenting or else ppl will say her releases are predictable and blah blah blah..

BTW...is ayu promoting this song as a single or as the lead song of the new album?..or both? I would like to see her perform more than 1 song...unlike JEWELS last year.

truehappiness 8th November 2007 04:43 AM

It'll probably be the flagship song of the album.

Although, that other song that is getting a PV COULD get the treatment too.. but the fact is that she'll probably milk Together When... for all its worth and perform it at every show until the end of the year.

This song seems like it'll simply be a sort of "recut" single that comes out before the album. Everyone knows that it'll be on there so... that'll probably affect sales a whole lot. But if people like it, you never know!

Zeke. 8th November 2007 05:00 AM

Everyone watch. The digital "cover" for the single will be drop dead gorgeous and we won't even be able to have a physical copy such as a poster or what not.

Aga-chan 8th November 2007 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolution7931 (Post 1228473)
I consider myself lucky to get like 6 hours or more.. normally I get 4 or 5
And I agree with TH.. stop whining about it being a digital single.. you still get a PV and a cover, you still get a new song.. it's everything a physical single has minus the pretty packaging... you're basically getting everything you'd normally get... do you need the pretty packaging THAT bad? god.. you'll get it with the album

That was what I wanted to say, too, basically. xD I don't mind complaining - but what for? ayu could release ALL her music digitally if she wanted to... And who knows, maybe they will release a poster, too?
I myself prefer the idea of a digital release, so people won't feel ripped off, because it's so close to the album.

TITANIC 8th November 2007 10:53 AM

thanks for the lyric..
i like her lyric..
really ^^

takamioda 8th November 2007 11:52 AM

thanks, u're so great. i like the lyrics, so sad huhu :((:((

Cyria 8th November 2007 11:55 AM

Very glad to hear that it will have a cover and PV.

AyuGAME 8th November 2007 12:11 PM

really can't wait

Qt Mashi 8th November 2007 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 1228504)
Everyone watch. The digital "cover" for the single will be drop dead gorgeous and we won't even be able to have a physical copy such as a poster or what not.

omg, that's so going to annoy me :eviltongu

i i'd like a poster!!

GeneticNova 8th November 2007 03:44 PM

erm every one knows that Ayu wrote the lyrics her self right?? and Does it even bother you that perhaps some of these lyrics are linked to her life and perhaps when she was writing this song she was really sad...

ownsarai 8th November 2007 05:31 PM

^I'm sure everyone knows that Ayu writes her own lyrics...
I'm happy to hear about the cover and PV! :D We'll finally get to see her Las Vegas PV~

Yay DIGITAL~

austin. ♥ 8th November 2007 08:29 PM

^ Digital is the way forward. You just wait, in 10 years the CD will be the new Vinyl. It's sooo much cheaper too.

I'm happy this is a digital single. :yes

futureLOVE 8th November 2007 08:43 PM

I'm definately happy that they've decided to make this one digital. it would have been horrible for the album's sales if they released it right before!

ayuayu798 8th November 2007 08:53 PM

Yay I cant wait ^^

BoBo 8th November 2007 10:46 PM

that's quite a news...digital single with PV and Covers...it's normal for the lyrics...Ayu said she lost someone,so the lyrics are somehow connected to this person i think

Chidori_73 8th November 2007 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneticNova (Post 1228610)
erm every one knows that Ayu wrote the lyrics her self right?? and Does it even bother you that perhaps some of these lyrics are linked to her life and perhaps when she was writing this song she was really sad...

I understand what you mean, and yes, I'm bothered that some people says things like "her lyrics are not deep anymore" "they are too much happy"...but when those songs were "deep", she was in pain, through a lot of suffering, thinking of retire....until she find the strength that she needed through her fans and music. If she's happy, her songs will be happy. If she's sad, her songs will be sad. I rather seeing her dancing around on an island, than having sad but good songs, knowing she is in pain. Poor Ayu...the only way I can support her is buying her music^^
(or sending her a cake)

4ever*ayu 8th November 2007 11:04 PM

A Digital release! really a breakthrough for ayu, hope it'll sell well on iTunes...
about the lyrics, everyone love sad/depress-type of song from ayu, it so touching...hik..hik

HiruNoKaze 9th November 2007 01:28 AM

Everyone goes through good and bad times. You can't help that she'll go through bad times. So when she writes lyrics that aren't as happy, of course it pains me that she had to endure the suffering that inspired the lyrics, but when I realize that it happens to everyone, I feel incredible pride in that she can transform pain into something beautiful, something that can help others.

alternarist 9th November 2007 03:26 AM

that sounds like a very sad song... the title seems to imply that ayu and her lover cant be together lol.

Ani_C 9th November 2007 03:56 AM

I'm liking the lyrics so far >w< Better be good xP

Chandrachan 9th November 2007 04:11 AM

sugoii a new song and PV!! ^^
Arigatou for the info!! ^^

bluegie 9th November 2007 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INSPIRE1978 (Post 1228655)
I'm definately happy that they've decided to make this one digital. it would have been horrible for the album's sales if they released it right before!

I would rather say it hurts both if she releases Together When physically. This is a very wise move for avex. Knowing that a physical release of the single a month before the album WILL NOT do anything good at all. Well why not release a digital then? It won't break ayu's no. 1 streak. It can gives people a taste of what the 8th album may sound like. Also it's quite elegant to see that avex makes a cover for this digital release.

"Digital single" is just a term for the company to milk the fans. How many people really care about the ranking of the digital release? Well probly we do, but not as much as the oricon ranking. If Together When cannot top the download chart, we won't feel like it's end of the world. Everyone knows it will be on the upcoming album anywayz. BUT it's cheap to download a song rite? Many people are willing to pay 200 yen for a download instead of spending >1000 yen to buy a single (esp the album will be out very soon).

summersnow 9th November 2007 05:41 AM

the lyrics sound so sad...

evolusean 9th November 2007 07:38 AM

Everyone sounds so shocked that the lyrics are sad.

Meanwhile, I miss the days when ALL of Ayu's lyrics were sad. That's her best stuff, by far.

Ayumiko 9th November 2007 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 1228849)
I would rather say it hurts both if she releases Together When physically. This is a very wise move for avex. Knowing that a physical release of the single a month before the album WILL NOT do anything good at all. Well why not release a digital then? It won't break ayu's no. 1 streak. It can gives people a taste of what the 8th album may sound like. Also it's quite elegant to see that avex makes a cover for this digital release.

"Digital single" is just a term for the company to milk the fans. How many people really care about the ranking of the digital release? Well probly we do, but not as much as the oricon ranking. If Together When cannot top the download chart, we won't feel like it's end of the world. Everyone knows it will be on the upcoming album anywayz. BUT it's cheap to download a song rite? Many people are willing to pay 200 yen for a download instead of spending >1000 yen to buy a single (esp the album will be out very soon).

I totally agree there...except the part where its suppose to be the 9th album not 8th.

Did we kinda saw this coming? I mean...talkin' 2 myself was available for download on sites before being released part of the physical single..

bluegie 9th November 2007 12:19 PM

my bad my bad LOL... can't believe that I wrote 8th instead of 9th.. :o

4ever*ayu 9th November 2007 12:56 PM

^well, it happen...:)
and i hope everyone here download the song legally from iTunes, lets keep supporting ayu

Raleigh 9th November 2007 01:46 PM

Similarly to bluegie, I'm feeling quite good about this decision. Seems avex have learned from the past mistakes of (miss)understood and Secret and are trying to boost the new album as best as they can.

If they released a physical single things wouldn't be so good. After the Bold&Delicious fiasco, which almost ruined her streak, avex won't risk it again and we all know that only hardcore fans will rush to buy a single a month before the release of an album. December is a pretty hectic time to release a single, almost everyone is releasing something for Christmas, meaning competition. They'd have to find her a week where no big act is releasing a single and it would still struggle with sales. Ayu is famous for her #1 streak and avex sure as hell wants to keep that.

On the other hand singles help to boost album sales, if the single is good so releasing a digital single with the same material as a single was a good choice. We won't be worrying about who his #1 and how many copies she has sold. If this song is a ballad, I'm pretty sure it'll attract attention. If it's a heartfelt ballad, it'll attract much more. So let's hope this song is really good so that it would push the album to sell really well.

Jwiz 9th November 2007 02:40 PM

^ yeah..and who knows?..maybe this upcoming album will sell better than secret ^-^

freedreamer 9th November 2007 02:58 PM

^i truly truly wish....

ayumisrael 9th November 2007 03:04 PM

^About time quality will start to take high sales. It didn't happen on the last two years (with albums). ^_^

austin. ♥ 9th November 2007 06:26 PM

it's a good back-up plan for future reference too, I mean, releasing digitally. If Ayu ever has a bunch of weeks with really good competition, she could just release digitally, and not lose anything. :P

mui-gei-tal 9th November 2007 06:37 PM

oh lala...digital single =O i can't wait for it...
but but the song sounds so sad T-T

ayu_ready? 9th November 2007 09:22 PM

I think it's rather cool and I want the cover too look more interesting than t2m one

CREA 69 10th November 2007 12:08 AM

WOW! This is the firt time Ayu release a digital single!

DA1SUK1DAY01691 10th November 2007 03:00 AM

It really seems like a "part of Me" part II. Ahaha. I wonder if they'll be related in anyway...

Watch, it'll be just like all.night.raver said, the BEST cover in ages, and there's gonna be no physical copy. Ahahaha. But I'd order a poster if it's that great. Since I don't have any Ayu posters or anyhing.

stickyrice 10th November 2007 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DA1SUK1DAY01691 (Post 1229460)
It really seems like a "part of Me" part II. Ahaha. I wonder if they'll be related in anyway...

So by COVER, is that album cover? Or Song image? Cause when Utada released "This is Love", wasn't it just ULTRA BLUE's cover along with it?

I believe it'll have a cover but I have a feeling that this and the album cover will be related somehow...

truehappiness 10th November 2007 03:36 AM

Basically, it'll have a picture that goes along with it when you download it onto your phone/computer [iTunes or music.jp or dwango and so on..]~

The picture will hopefully be good. I don't want some plainass photo taken from the special PB D:

WillofDusk 10th November 2007 04:17 AM

And as I said, it is very unlikely that Ayu will release a physical single by this time of the year but instead an album.
And it turned out to be true except the digital single part.
Smart Avex.

CHAS_AYU 10th November 2007 11:39 AM

Waiting for the cover and the PV!

sugarbasil 10th November 2007 10:02 PM

I'm confused (and feel very out of the loop). I never heard about anyone dying when this song was in production. Where can I find the news about this?

Chibi_Venus 11th November 2007 05:55 AM

Okay, I'm a little confused...

So a "digital single" is basically a single that won't be released in stores? You can only buy it online? Just... it'll have a PV and cover art.

...Riiight? XD

Raleigh 11th November 2007 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1229077)
^About time quality will start to take high sales. It didn't happen on the last two years (with albums). ^_^

Well I think the problem was that the last albums were badly planned. (m)u was awesome but Bold&Delicious turned off many potential buyers and the whole Geo thing made people reluctant to buy. Secret then had no single to promote it and thus no hype. This album seems to be planned more carefully but who knows... there are many other factors too including the fact that sales for everyone are slipping.

VAL 11th November 2007 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chibi_Venus (Post 1230318)
Okay, I'm a little confused...

So a "digital single" is basically a single that won't be released in stores? You can only buy it online? Just... it'll have a PV and cover art.

...Riiight? XD

Yes !:D

Jaja i hope the PV gonna be beautifull!! <3

believed_to_be_misunderstood 11th November 2007 08:57 AM

Ayumi is saying goodbye! ; ; She's taking a vacation...I'll miss her.

criminal 11th November 2007 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarbasil (Post 1230076)
I'm confused (and feel very out of the loop). I never heard about anyone dying when this song was in production. Where can I find the news about this?

After reading this thread, I have the exact same question.

tokyoxjapanxfan 11th November 2007 06:24 PM

i'm actually rather excited to see the response to the digital single. :)


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