is it true..?
 

I read in one of the threads in the ayu chat room, that ayu smokes & has undergone plastic surgery before..
juz v curious whether is it true & is there any news being reported on it..
and or on what grounds is that being said.. =X

Yes Ayu smokes, pictures have been circulated of her doing it before - But its no big deal, millions of people smoke.

Rumours of her having plastic surgery on her eyes have been around for a long time but tis has always been denied and never been proved.

Ayu has also visited gay bars in the past if you want more so-called "controversial" topics

i don't mind if those things (eg plastic surgery) is true..because i like her for who she is.. =>
but i know deep in my heart i hope she'll quite smoking (IF she still smokes now) coz it's bad for her health.. =)
doubt the plastic surgery stuff though..i think her eyes are like..naturally that big haha..

suddenly felt that she's only being herself..coz i think as an artist/singer etc, image in very impt..
going gay bars?
lolz..

i still lurve her for who she is.. <3 <3 <3

EDIT: oh erm hey micster, thanks for the abv info.. ^^

No problemmm

The smoking stuff is a bit old - I think the last stuff about that was around My Story's releaseish

Both plastic surgery and smoking rumors have been circulating for ages. I don't know about the smoking thing but the plastic surgery issue is attached with every Japanese celebrity so I don't attach so much credibility to it. I say it isn't true but just a lot of clever make up.

The smoking thing was because of some picture which people still argue if she's holding a cigarette or not.

oh gosh..felt abit dumb that i don't even know bout this.. T.T
but she never clarifies either (or any other rumors) yeah?
lolz..i think she couldn't even be bothered about it..am i right? XD

I never seen picture where Ayu is smoking. Do you have this?

^lolz..from what Demure_Dusk says, i doubt the circulating "ayu smoking" pictures would be clear for us to "identify" whether is it true that a ciggy she's holding..lolz..

Well this is to the level of tabloid junk so there's nothing really to clarify. Most of the rumors come either from tabloids or people on internet who have too much free time on their hands. They've posted so much rubbish that no artists bothers any longer.

About the cigarette picture I don't have it but you can probably dig it up from some old thread.

About smoking. Check out the post Halla posted about a week+ ago:
http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showpo...1&postcount=27

Not really clear enough, but whatever. So what if she smokes? I doubt she does it really often anyway. Only probably on some special occasions. :yes
There is another picture somewhere here at AHS too which also very very unclear, can't remember where it was though!

Hmm, I don't know if either rumor is true or not.

A lot of people smoke, some a lot, some socially etc., so I don't really mind, even though I don't like it.

In terms her "eye surgery", if she did have it, I don't think it's a big deal.

It's more commonplace in Asian countries to get eyelid surgery, since most Asians are born with a single eyelid. From what I hear, double eyelid surgery is one of the most common forms of surgery in East and Southeast Asia, so it's no biggie.

Then again, she could've been born that way, so who knows?

It doesn't detract from her as an artist or a person, imo :)

Here is that other picture (found it), which is as I told even more unclear:

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2962/ayusmokexr5.jpg

^well, a lot of people smoke, although its a very bad, unfortunate habit...(I should know, I smoke myself)...but I am sure Ayu controls herself, she's probably just a social smoker, like only when she drinks or on special occasions.

IF she smokes; she doesn't smoke much... we would've seen her smoke more.. so maybe only at parties.. and even of that, we are not sure

An insider also told me that sometimes she farts :thud

She can smoke, drink too much, be bi, is that important ?
Her music is good, her lyrics moving, her arenas awesome.

We love, and are fans, of Ayu, the artist, her personal behaviours, well, are personal. :innocent

Well, If she did drink too much and be bi then some people would be put of her music because of her personal life. Some retarded people are like that - If the person's life is crap / wrong in there morales - then that person isnt worth there time.

She's very discreet on her personal life.
She's not a Japanese Winehouse :innocent

She was also carried out of a bar once. :mischief Ayu's definetly a party girl!

Well.. I don't matter, if she smokes or not.. or if she did an eye surgery. I think.. much famous people do it. And.. smoking.. well... million of people are smoking.
So.. I don't matter such things. I like her Music.... and.. until, her Music still beeing greate... everything is allright.

By the way... someone saw this befor?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-L1-aC5ToM0

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wuQhMg4Ides

There you can see a lot of japanese Stars, who had an plastc surgery...if it is true. It also includes Ayu!

I think that this picture from CDL 06-07 behind the scenes of ayu without make-up might be helpful about the surgery thing, without make-up+photoshop ayu's eyes are really small which pretty proves she did nothing to them I guess.
BTW I think that comparing young to older pics of someone is really stupid because the face are changing ^-^

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...yuwomakeup.jpg

Some of the images are a bit misleading but others do look like they got an eye job or er.. some enhancements. Most of the photos being compared are like school photos without make up and the newer photos are with photoshop and make up.

Like hitomi furuya's photographs. The first one has minimal eye liner, while the second one has eyeliner to highlight her eyes. Amuro also looks the same for me, just the second picture looks photoshopped.

Anyone who thinks hanging out at gay bars is controversial has obviously never been to one. Gay bars are usually at least 30% straight women. It's harder to find a guy to dance with than it is a girl.

As far as plastic surgery, all of my Japanese friends seem to individually think she has. When the subject of Hamasaki Ayumi ever comes up, the first thing any one of them will say is: "Her lyrics are great, but it's too bad she had her eyes done."

While I personally think she has had surgery, keep in mind there are a million ways to change your eyelid shape without surgery, and wealthy celebrities have access to the best methods. And candid pictures don't show much proof for or against the surgery stories--if they did, every tabloid cover of Celebrity-X who looked stoned because the camera caught them mid-blink would be the real deal too.

don't say that! Some people need to believe that their Disney princesses (aka "role models") do really exist. They're pretty, kind, immasculate, brilliant, perfect, intelligent, and they never, oh, they never ever fart. They just don't!:no

]About surgery, one thing is an absolute truth: she DEFINITELY had a surgery on her teeth. She had crooked teeth and all of a sudden they became all regular and beautiful. You can't change teeth with make up...and brackets takes years!

^Definately had her teeth fixed, like many celebreties. Why not, they're pretty now. Probably veneers.

As to smoking.. I think it's a social/party thing, otherwise we probably would've seen it more often, and it would've been noticeable on her voice (like Mika Nakashima)

Plastic surgery.. well that argument never stops, I'm not gonna say I'm 100 % on one or the other side.. but I'm leaning more to the not-operated on, she looks so different without the heavy eye make-up.


*edit: she looks pretty real here too, from CDL06-07

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/7...rvafppmnc7.jpg

^ do veneers count as surgery? I thought it was more like aesthetic dentristry. it's pretty obvious tho that ayu has veneers tho. They are very pricey, the ycost like 600+ USD per tooth and they have to be periodically replaced.

the photoes really look like she's smoking. it looks like the cup is being used as ashtray, and honestly now what is that white thing in her hand if it's not a cigarette. I rmember when this photo first resurfaced a lot of people were claiming it's a "pen" , but the way she's holding it and the "cup-ashtray" really point towards it being a cig ...

Yeah the photo looks like she was tapping her cigarette to get rid of the ashes.

Idk, don't they like drill or file on the teeth to fit in the veneers? I guess that's kinda like surgery.

my mom's friend (who's a doctor of a sort) said that she got surgery. something about her eyes going down or something...(she's coming over today, so i'll ask her to explain it and then use some photoshop magic to say what she means)

Sounds interesting to get a doctors perspective :yes
Is she a surgeon?

i dunno...she's a 'student' or she works at children's hospital *confused*






i just know she goes to children's hospital for 'work' or to 'study' or something XP (i'll ask her that too)

I don't think it's simple for a doctor to determine whether a aesthetic plastic surgery was done or not, since facial features change a lot, and I'm sure we'd be getting interviews with doctors through tabloids explaining evidences of plastic surgery on these celebrities, something we don't really get. :shrug unless the changes were extremely obvious and we can compare two recent pictures, one after and other before surgery, that clearly proves that.

Yep, meanwhile the whole issue is just people who assume that I guess but comparing her 16 yo face to 20+ face (which there are a lot of facial changes between them), or rumors or they just say look at the face they look plastic, well they look plastic after a good photoshop and make-up.

It's probable about both...
That pic really did look like she was smoking...all I can say is if she does in fact smoke, hopefully she won't get some of the nasty side effects...but quite frankly, I think it's something she does on occassion rather than constantly...the plastic surgery thing..hmm well I don't really think she got it, since I've seen pix where she looked remarkably like her younger self...not only that make-up and photoshop can do a lot to a person's appearance...I mean just take a look at Oprah Winfrey (sp?) without any make-up on xD! But anyways, yeah I'm not entirely sure for the two of them...
Thye're just two unsovled mysteries I suppose LOL!

Smoking...it depends, because it can range from socially to chain smoking. Now I don't approve of the habit, and I think it should definitely be avoided, but it doesn't really affect who you are as a person.

Plastic surgery...I've seen pictures of both sides, but you know, she has lost quite a bit of puppy fat on her face since her late teens. And yes, she definitely have ways to get her eyes larger without surgery.

I wish I could have gotten my teeth straightened without braces. Those were painful years.

The thing about that picture, is that usually... any publicly released material [like a dejidejidiary] would probably have a 99.9% chance of being looked over a ton of times just in case something slipped [boob slip, something! ugly blinking?]

exactly. i don't think Ayu has gotten plastic surgery. as people say ; when you see pictures of her without makeup her eyes are smaller, so it proves that eye makeup and mascara have made her eyes appear alot bigger than what they are.

because as someone said before. if you think about it ; Ayu has been going non stop for 10 years. if she got eyes surgery before, she would need a great amount of time to recover from it. when have you heard of Ayu stopping for months and months to recover from something? it's most obviously just the eye makeup.

and those plastic surgery videos are very fake. people change over the course of years and the person took very professional photos and compared them to photo's of them when they were very young without any make up or anything.

Yeah..

Some of the photos used to compare are also photoshopped to make her eyes appear larger. An example is the almond eye princess photo that everyone uses to "prove" the surgery.


Although, Ayu's nose seems to have gotten fixed over time.. I dunno how, but it just looks so.. caucasian. I don't know if your nose can change over time..

^ I always thought her nose was one of her biggest asian features.. the flat back bone of it.

do you have the picture i could see?

Mmmm ithink she could smoke when she is drunk, but this pictures... i have so many doubts about them... you know

The other thing about the pic of her supposedly holding a cig and a cup is that you have to keep in mind that that pic is from 2002, almost six years ago. She may've been a heavier smoker then, could still smoke but only on occasions...

I believe that the cases of her smoking and plastic surgery will never be closed. People's features change over time, but many Japanese people undergo surgery later on in life. And a lot of people smoke in the world, even people in Japan. I'm sure she isnt 100% focused on lighting a cig all the time. Personally I think shes quite "keen" on her career more than she has seemed to be in the past, you know?

but then can we really confirm that the person in the pic we're talking bout is really ayu?
i thought it looked quite blurry.. =X

is it possible that one only smoke socially?
i thought it's addictive..then one will smoke more gradually...? hmmz..

well, i think maybe because she's 'asian', she used that as part of the explanation *shrugs*





anyways, she told me that normal asian eyes are kinda pointed on the ends (har har har, yes asian stereotype, whatever >P). she said that it's a bit obvious that ayu got surgery because the corner of her eye is slightly larger than most asian eyes







but you do prove a good point there, impact; she may very well be part white like 59302028950928105491 people have speculated, and that her father's side gives her...big-eye genes XD

AYU got a little chubby recently...and people's weights increase after they quit smoking...and so maybe ayu has quit smoking so that she can continue to strive on for her career healthily...her 10th anniversary! in my opinion...

Well people also smokes when they got stressed... am I right?

now THERE'S a good tip for mika nakashima :D

yeah i thought she looked more chubby recently too lolz.. :innocent:innocent:innocent

Oh no... i hate smokers. Their bad breath pisses me off.

I think maybe smoking is really bad - this can affect lungs, and I think this can affect vocals on singers who smoke...

I don't think smoking is right. Maybe Avex should implement a strict smoking policy... (By the way, the area where I live is a state law that prohibits smoking inside and within 25 feet of entrances. I've also learned on a health lesson that smoking has chemicals and is bad...)

http://i8.tinypic.com/87btzys.jpg

Picture on the right.

Personally, I ultimately don't care. The only thing about smoking is that it could have adverse affects on her health and her voice. And I'd agree that she probably doesn't smoke that much otherwise there would probably be more photographic evidence, especially in Japan where smoking isn't considered as much of a huge deal like here.

As for veneers constituting as actual surgery, if I'm in the dentist's chair and they have to sedate me to do hours worth of work to permanently change the appearance (as I've been through about seven times now) it's surgery. Veneers may not be as hardcore as crowns/bridges but to me that's still getting oral surgery.

If thats a cigarette thats a very long one :O. I think its a straw.

XD That's sooo going into my signature.

They make long cigarettes--and it doesn't look that long to me, considering she also has fake nails.

--; I mean she's even ashing it in the cup.

Many people smoke. Many people in Asia have eyelid lifts. It's really not a big deal.

Lol I see now, its because I thought that whiteish part near her wrist was also the cigarette.

Why is it a big deal if she smokes/drinks/got plastic surgery/whatever? These things are not illegal, and she's a grown woman who's certainly entitled to do what she wants to do.

i think that's the glare off her thumb HAHA

Because tomorrow morning she could wake up, be rushed to the hospital, and come out with one of those "nifty" holes in her throat. I'm sure that'll help her singing career. ;] It's just flat out moronic to smoke if you depend on your vocal skills for your lively hood.

It's just dumb to smoke overall.

Gosh, this is so sad some people can't understand the simple fact that everyone's facial features change throughout the years... People keep comparing pictures taken years apart... Usually pictures taken before and after the very peroid in life (ages 15 to 20-something) when people's looks can change drastically...

Like many other's have pointed before, we've recently had plenty of pictures/footage of Ayu without makeup that proves her eyes have barely changed.

The picture on the left is indeed Ayu, but she was like 16/17/18..

Sure she is it. Look to all her old pictures.. she looks like that.
It is a very old picture... when she was maybee 16.

no she isn't, look at videos from Idol on Stage. Of corse they both looks similiar, but they are not. When i'm looking very to this picture and video now i can say that it isn't one person, of course i can be mistake now....

Yeah I think it is dumb to smoke especially for health reasons. I hope she only smokes on rare occasions if she does.

I think Ayu, being as health crazy as she is, probably chooses to not smoke anymore... As a rebellious teenager, there is no doubt that she probably smoked and such, but that's what teenagers in her position did in Japan at the time :| She was a "delinquent" kinda... but now, people look to her for inspiration and comfort. So I think that perhaps... she stopped smoking a while after hitting it big?

Her voice has always seemed to be pretty unique, so I don't think that people's reasoning for her voice being the way it is = smoking...

I hope you're right since smoking is not something I admire in people.

Yeah, same here. But I think the culture of Japan just.. doesn't really mind smoking as much as it should, imo. I think they need to try to make people kick the habit. A lot of people probably have health problems that shouldn't just becuase they've been smoking since they were a teenager..

Isn't it a picture of one of her old photobooks. I forgot that name... something with K... Kermisal....or so0mething like that... I'm sure, you know, what I'm thinking about.
And.. I saw that picture really often, and it always say, it is Ayu.
I think, she looked like in Idol on Stage.
Ok.. maybee, that shot is not very good taken... so she looked a little bit different.

The fact ayu is healthy is not a proof she doesn't smoke. We all know most of the diseases caused by smoking are chronic, after the person has smoked for over 30 year +. Many smokers manage to keep "healthy" and have a healthy appearance for years even if they smoke a lot, and maybe that's one of the reasons they won't think about quitting, because they won't be really be bothered about the consequences since they only appear late.
Some singers smoke and manage to keep their vocals fine. Again, not a proof.

There's no real proof whether she smokes or not. None of the speculations are solid enough. The pictures available are all blurry and unclear. The most reliable fact I'd mention is that most likely ayu isn't a heavy smoker (if she's a smoker). If she smoked heavily, we'd have already seem much more evidences than just those questionable ones.

I think half of us need to grow up and realize that she's human too and can do whatever the hell she pleases :)

^ .. And that people can have varying opinions about her decisions as an adult. :)

I really don't care if she had surgery or not (I have nothing against cosmetic surgeries and if they weren't so expensive and hadn't so many risks I would definitely correct my body too) but I just have to say that it really doesn't take months and months to recover from a surgery like that. Or if you put it in other way: it does take months to recover but not like that you have to sit home and do absolutely nothing. I've read that ppl are ready to go to work in 10 days after the surgery but most ppl still need sunglasses for example when outside because of the sun etc. (sunglasses, hmm.. That's an easy disguise :innocent).

And as well as small eyes can be made big with makeup can makeup also make those scars disappear..

As I said I don't really care if she had surgery or not all I say is that she looks way different and makeup can do wonders but how big wonders? I'm not sure. :rolleyes

Hi! Being new here, I guess I will put in my 2 cents. I had downloaded a vid of her singing in 1995. She was young, and her eyes looked very similar. BTW, that pix on the left in the 1st mv (52s) def did not look like her, esp knowing I had that video.
With her hearing gone in her left ear, she might consider quitting smoking anyway(even thou they aren't related.