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stepho_chan 7th February 2008 05:44 AM

What's this about a Koda Scandal?
 
Um, i was looking at another thread saying Koda was kicked off the Kose contract and that Avex stopped promoting Kingdom, and i saw something about Kuu making some kind of "statement" or "scandal" ....im really confused, what exactly is going on?

milky_way 7th February 2008 05:45 AM

Check the Koda Kumi thread :P

bondingo 7th February 2008 05:47 AM

^That doesn't help :P

She made a comment on a radio show about how she told her manager she should have kids soon since she's 35, and after that age women's amniotic fluids go rotten. That was basically it to my recollection. Not really as bad as you might think.

stepho_chan 7th February 2008 05:51 AM

lol ok well i feel dumb XD i didnt see anything in the threads and i just kept getting confused XDD

edgefusion 7th February 2008 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bondingo (Post 1328539)
^That doesn't help :P

She made a comment on a radio show about how she told her manager she should have kids soon since she's 35, and after that age women's amniotic fluids go rotten. That was basically it to my recollection. Not really as bad as you might think.

Considering 17% of Japanese women supposedly do have uhh bad insides and the problem of getting Japanese people to actually have kids then yeah, it is as bad as you might think.

This is what she said: "Mothers' amnion fluid is rotten once they turn around 35. ...I mean it. It gets dirty."

TITANIC 7th February 2008 01:31 PM

kuu is overtalkaktive..
poor kuu..

Indie 7th February 2008 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by edgefusion (Post 1328681)
Considering 17% of Japanese women supposedly do have uhh bad insides and the problem of getting Japanese people to actually have kids then yeah, it is as bad as you might think.

This is what she said: "Mothers' amnion fluid is rotten once they turn around 35. ...I mean it. It gets dirty."

is that really a bad thing to say for an artists in Japan? :confused:

Neo Daydream 7th February 2008 03:28 PM

it sounds really silly. i'm not a Kuu fan but i can't see why what she said is so bad...

AyuGAME 7th February 2008 03:34 PM

^maybe its really sensitive case that happen in japan..so there is so many people angry with her statement..
i think koda regret what she said too...japanese really respect their culture and love their country so much..and i think public apology that koda held is really coming from her heart and she sincere about it...

bondingo 7th February 2008 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by edgefusion (Post 1328681)
Considering 17% of Japanese women supposedly do have uhh bad insides and the problem of getting Japanese people to actually have kids then yeah, it is as bad as you might think.

This is what she said: "Mothers' amnion fluid is rotten once they turn around 35. ...I mean it. It gets dirty."

Don't give me that crap. I'm saying in terms of what someone not from Japan might expect she could have said in order to offend an entire nation, that it wasn't really that bad in relation to some things celebrities say here. The fact that you believe it to be so offensive is entirely subjective, just as I believe it was not intended as such, so don't tell me what I should feel.

ayumixfan 8th February 2008 02:13 AM

YEah Bondigo pretty much described what happened XD I am surprised Avex cut her promotion .... That is extreme o_O! Well I guess it could've been worse >_<!

Hm.. At the beginning when I thought about it I was like what was so offensive but after awhile I kinda see why it is offensive. I don't think anyone likes being told that their insides are bad >_<! BUt I honestly think Kuu slipped that out by accident. She should be forgiven for it everyone makes mistakes and I doubt she would say something like this on purpose, especially when she is 35 XD.

polka-dot-jewel 8th February 2008 02:48 AM

This story is CRAZY. (I felt so bad for her during her apology, though.) Isn't she overtalkative, though? She probably kept on talking and didn't realize that those words would come back and, for the moment, ruin her career.

I think I heard that the imperial family got really offended by her words, only because their daughter kept trying to have a child for years and couldn't, or something like that...

UHPlus 8th February 2008 03:01 AM

It's not a scandal. It's just Japanese people being TOO sensitive and overreacting on an inappropriate sentence by koda. Slap them! :eviltongu:eviltongu:eviltongu

ayumixfan 8th February 2008 03:26 AM

^ I don't think they're being too sensitive about it o_o If someone told me my insides were turning rotten I would do the same thing. I dunno thats my opinion tho. It'll probably die down soon tho anyways =P!

emi♡ 8th February 2008 03:45 AM

it's bad for her because she won't be able to do her job to the fullest extent she is now...

that's how it is for every artist, and everyone who isn't in total control of their career, and even for some who are. Kids are a big deal, everywhere.

It's sad the way they are reacting...and I do agree, she should not have said that...I can see how it would be offensive...especially to women who do have problems conceiving and are already sesitive to the subject...but...I don't know, I hadn't heard about this either so, thanks for the info guys :)

CHE.R.RY 8th February 2008 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by UHPlus (Post 1329326)
It's not a scandal. It's just Japanese people being TOO sensitive and overreacting on an inappropriate sentence by koda. Slap them! :eviltongu:eviltongu:eviltongu

Technically this is a scandal. She said the wrong thing (which was controversal to the Japanese public) and she's being ripped for it.

stepho_chan 8th February 2008 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UHPlus (Post 1329326)
It's not a scandal. It's just Japanese people being TOO sensitive and overreacting on an inappropriate sentence by koda. Slap them! :eviltongu:eviltongu:eviltongu

lol nice.

TITANIC 8th February 2008 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UHPlus (Post 1329326)
It's not a scandal. It's just Japanese people being TOO sensitive and overreacting on an inappropriate sentence by koda. Slap them! :eviltongu:eviltongu:eviltongu

if some japanese was angry with kuu read this, they will angry :D:D:D:D:D]
juz kiding

ImpactBreaker 8th February 2008 04:13 PM

It shows how people's lives depends on the stupidity some pop star says... :no

Preganat 36yo woman, listening to "FREAKY" suddenly hears about koda's trash loudmouth and thinks: "OMG, my fetus is going to die just because koda kumi said my amniotic fluid is rotten. That witch, I hate her"

overreaction and oversensitivity does describe it well enough ;)

kayokyokufan 9th February 2008 08:10 AM

Well, here's an update on the Koda Kumi scandal.

Reactions to Koda's apology

On Thursday, Kumi Koda appeared in an exclusive interview on Fuji TV's "FNN Super News" to apologize for a remark she made on "All Night Nippon" last week. She had stated that "when women turn 35, their amniotic fluid goes rotten," leading to many angry reactions from the public.

During Thursday's interview, she attempted to explain her comment and tearfully apologized for the harm she caused.

Not everyone was convinced, however. An informal poll taken after the broadcast through Sankei Sports' website indicated that 81% of the viewers felt the apology was insufficient, while only 9% said it was enough. Fuji TV later announced that by midnight on Thursday, it had received almost 300 phone calls about the broadcast. About a third of them carried heavy criticism, such as saying that Koda's apology felt insincere. Only 9 of the callers defended the singer.

According to Video Research Ltd., Koda's appearance did not boost ratings. Her apology drew ratings of 10.1%, the same as the average for the show's second half. (Tokyograph, Feb 8, 2008)

ayumixfan 9th February 2008 09:43 AM

^ ok now the media is just milking kuu's situation =_= thats really rude. I am pretty sure they KNEW the results of Kuu's apology and how unforgiving the public will be. And then they just had to mention how the ratings were =_= I Don't like Kuu but she doesn't deserve to be used as some doll to get tv ratings..... She apologized and it should just be left as that >_>

~X2RADialbomber~ 9th February 2008 10:14 AM

Was Kumi trying to sound smart or something? Because I've never really heard of someone saying amniotic fluid in a normal conversation before. XD

ImpactBreaker 9th February 2008 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ~X2RADialbomber~ (Post 1330651)
Was Kumi trying to sound smart or something? Because I've never really heard of someone saying amniotic fluid in a normal conversation before. XD

Exactly, however she ended up "biting her tongue" XD

JesA 9th February 2008 10:33 PM

they take things like this a bit more extreme than the US does...it someone like Britney or Paris said this, they would just get made fun of on The Soup, SNL, and Best Week Ever then everyone would forget....

poor Kuu....i can see why many people are offended with it

avex's actions just goes to show that they arent all just about the money

ImpactBreaker 9th February 2008 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JesA (Post 1331245)
avex's actions just goes to show that they arent all just about the money

actually, I'm pretty sure their action is because of the $$$. If avex overexposes kumi at a moment people are angry at her, it could severely hurt her image and avex could lose its gold mine. They're just bneing cautious to assure they'll be able to still keep on milking money through kumi when this whole crap be forgotten.

JesA 9th February 2008 10:56 PM

^ well it can kinda go either way...i just meant that they arent shoving her in the public eye during this to make tons of money, like i thought they would

Raleigh 10th February 2008 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 1331248)
actually, I'm pretty sure their action is because of the $$$. If avex overexposes kumi at a moment people are angry at her, it could severely hurt her image and avex could lose its gold mine. They're just bneing cautious to assure they'll be able to still keep on milking money through kumi when this whole crap be forgotten.

I agree 100%. Kumi currently is a very hot asset for avex. She sells well and has a solid fanbase. Thus they want to minimize the damage as much as possible. Getting her on tv and radio while they're pissed at her will only generate complaints and more resentment. Thus they're waiting for it to blow over so they can resume.

truehappiness 10th February 2008 04:12 AM

Well, if they put her on TV or radio, there's a small chance she might say something idiotic AGAIN.

ImpactBreaker 10th February 2008 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1331371)
Well, if they put her on TV or radio, there's a small chance she might say something idiotic AGAIN.

If they were to be always scared of anything she were to say, they'd fire her instead. Nothing holds her from saying something stupid now or later anyway. :shrug

lfe. 14th February 2008 04:06 AM

i didnt know wat the scandal was from the other kuu thread but after reading about it here, i kinda feel bad for her but at the same time you cant flame the other party by saying they are oversensitive or being jerks. this kind of stuff always happens in the workplace. one wrong statement can offend someone and you get called to the Human Resources department the next day. everyones different and they are sensitive to different things. its a lil overboard of what happened to kuu, but gotta be more careful with what you say

hightea_xx 14th February 2008 06:10 AM

i hate how people are comparing what she said to what happens in america. japanese culture, believe it or not, is DIFFERENT from american culture. i'm sorry if this is a shock to anyone. she's getting punished, and from my perspective it is a little overboard considering what she said, but people are obviously offended by it. so much so that actions are being taken. she'll bounce back, this will blow over soon enough. however, the "well compared to paris or britney" remakes need to be put to rest, she isn't "paris or britney" and she's not in america.

KarenPang 14th February 2008 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kayokyokufan (Post 1330593)
Well, here's an update on the Koda Kumi scandal.

Reactions to Koda's apology

On Thursday, Kumi Koda appeared in an exclusive interview on Fuji TV's "FNN Super News" to apologize for a remark she made on "All Night Nippon" last week. She had stated that "when women turn 35, their amniotic fluid goes rotten," leading to many angry reactions from the public.

During Thursday's interview, she attempted to explain her comment and tearfully apologized for the harm she caused.

Not everyone was convinced, however. An informal poll taken after the broadcast through Sankei Sports' website indicated that 81% of the viewers felt the apology was insufficient, while only 9% said it was enough. Fuji TV later announced that by midnight on Thursday, it had received almost 300 phone calls about the broadcast. About a third of them carried heavy criticism, such as saying that Koda's apology felt insincere. Only 9 of the callers defended the singer.

According to Video Research Ltd., Koda's appearance did not boost ratings. Her apology drew ratings of 10.1%, the same as the average for the show's second half. (Tokyograph, Feb 8, 2008)

aiyo , she offered her apologises & it's still not enough to satisfy the public ? What does they want her to do ? stop releasing music & leave the music business ??

she already apologised & the public's not satisifed with it , I think it's pathetic . Can you imagine if she didn't & she just stayed slient about this matter ?

naxxo.licious™ 16th February 2008 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kayokyokufan (Post 1330593)
Well, here's an update on the Koda Kumi scandal.

Reactions to Koda's apology

On Thursday, Kumi Koda appeared in an exclusive interview on Fuji TV's "FNN Super News" to apologize for a remark she made on "All Night Nippon" last week. She had stated that "when women turn 35, their amniotic fluid goes rotten," leading to many angry reactions from the public.

During Thursday's interview, she attempted to explain her comment and tearfully apologized for the harm she caused.

Not everyone was convinced, however. An informal poll taken after the broadcast through Sankei Sports' website indicated that 81% of the viewers felt the apology was insufficient, while only 9% said it was enough. Fuji TV later announced that by midnight on Thursday, it had received almost 300 phone calls about the broadcast. About a third of them carried heavy criticism, such as saying that Koda's apology felt insincere. Only 9 of the callers defended the singer.

According to Video Research Ltd., Koda's appearance did not boost ratings. Her apology drew ratings of 10.1%, the same as the average for the show's second half. (Tokyograph, Feb 8, 2008)

:roflmao

I'm still having so much fun with this scandal :laugh

ayumixfan 17th February 2008 08:45 AM

^ lol! XD has it died down yet? =S She still sells a lot anyways lol I dunno why her fans are complaining about the anger of the Japanese >_< sells like nuts either way

KaoriNeko 20th February 2008 07:58 PM

ok.
i've been out of the loop for a while but...KUU! STUPID GIRL!
Is this really gonna derail her career? I hope not. =[

orangeland 21st February 2008 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kayokyokufan (Post 1330593)
Well, here's an update on the Koda Kumi scandal.

Reactions to Koda's apology

On Thursday, Kumi Koda appeared in an exclusive interview on Fuji TV's "FNN Super News" to apologize for a remark she made on "All Night Nippon" last week. She had stated that "when women turn 35, their amniotic fluid goes rotten," leading to many angry reactions from the public.

During Thursday's interview, she attempted to explain her comment and tearfully apologized for the harm she caused.

Not everyone was convinced, however. An informal poll taken after the broadcast through Sankei Sports' website indicated that 81% of the viewers felt the apology was insufficient, while only 9% said it was enough. Fuji TV later announced that by midnight on Thursday, it had received almost 300 phone calls about the broadcast. About a third of them carried heavy criticism, such as saying that Koda's apology felt insincere. Only 9 of the callers defended the singer.

According to Video Research Ltd., Koda's appearance did not boost ratings. Her apology drew ratings of 10.1%, the same as the average for the show's second half. (Tokyograph, Feb 8, 2008)

you have to remember that informal polls aren't always an exact indicator of how the general public feels about a situation. all the viewers who actually put in an effort to call in may only be the ones who are taking it too hard, or they just may be kuu haters. many people might have already forgiven and forgotten about the incident, but it doesn't mean that they all tuned in. who knows? ;]

mitose 4th March 2008 04:32 PM

I myself really don't think this sentence can make such a scandal like that. It's just a normal biology knowledge that she read on the newspaper....may be it is because of her attitude when she said it??


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