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naxxo.licious™ 13th April 2008 09:19 AM

Arena Tour 2007 and Moulin Rouge!
 
This is so random. I was talking with zoomzoom about Moulin Rouge and BOOM! we suddenly saw some similarities between ayu's AT 07 evolution's outfit, and Nicole Kidman's one.

Ayu:

http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/...0m_c644a5e.jpg

http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/...0m_c56c7b8.jpg

http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/...0m_b2aae90.jpg


Nicole:

http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/...nm_927d70b.jpg


So what do u think about it? We think it can't be just a coincidence


Screencaps by zoomzoom

stepYOU1234 13th April 2008 09:51 AM

I saw that too! The swings are nearly exactly the same. I also think the white outfit Ayu wears at the end is a bit like the pink outfit Nicole Kidman wears in the movie following the swing outfit.

ownsarai 13th April 2008 09:59 AM

Hmm...maybe she liked the style and ran with it? I actually like Ayu's outfit better, it's a little more...fluffy! xD <= I don't know how else to describe it really...^^;

zoomzoom 13th April 2008 10:06 AM

The thing that jumped to my eyes was the swing. I never saw the movie, so when I saw a clip of it with Nicole Kidman on a swing, I instantly recognized the swing as identical to ayu's in her opening performance. It's a pretty unique swing, I didn't even think twice about it. From there I noticed their outfits looked pretty similar, with the hat and gold and all.

Hanabi_surreal 13th April 2008 10:11 AM

yep that's true... good observation guys reminds me like Moulin Rouge movie...

It will be more impresive Ayu moves like Nicole XD "the french are glad to die for love...*

I think is a concidence... dunno.. I like it very much that performance... so if is a copy or not.. is OK... IS MY FAVORITE!!! ^_____^

ayumixfan 13th April 2008 10:25 AM

LOL omgosh guilty XD! they look SO similar XD Who knows if its a coincedence or not *shrugs* XD At least tahts what I think. W.e. Ayu looks better than nicole kidman in it neways =P! IMO at least XD

AyUmIXx 13th April 2008 10:47 AM

woww...
at least the swinging on AT07 is really similar..
woww..nice!!!
thanks for pointing it out :)

yea, maybe ayu got the inspiration from moulin rouge~

[taskin.ayu] 13th April 2008 11:08 AM

Well IMO most of the concert was Moulin Rouge inspired. The swing, the set, the costumes. The end of the concert is also Moulin Rouge inspired with the hearts in the back and the feathered costumes.

Look here:
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7...malade2fn7.jpg

People shouldn't take it as copying, it's really just inspiration from the Moulin Rouge.

xiaou-xijiang 13th April 2008 11:14 AM

I would never have connected it that way. :laugh I see it now though.

Melrose 13th April 2008 12:45 PM

Looks like she copied but then again who cares. XD She should copy medieval movies like King Arthur for AT09. <33

*Petit* 13th April 2008 12:52 PM

IT's pretty obious and it makes a pretty stage. Fit for ayu.

se7entheaven 13th April 2008 01:31 PM

well
paris hilton Can Can adv also has that kind of outfit ayu's wearing in AT07 Boys & Girls and the Heart Shape lights in the BG

alternarist 13th April 2008 01:44 PM

lol... humans need more brain juices to be creative.

TITANIC 13th April 2008 02:20 PM

yah. it's little similar.but i dont care about that

Mario 13th April 2008 03:37 PM

I also noticed the inspiration of musicals in Arena Tour 2005 and BEST of CDL

The Phantom of the Opera - HAPPY ENDING AT2005

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...od/54copia.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ture8copia.jpg

The Phantom of the Opera - M Asia Tour 2007 (in the movie the ballet holds the same flower things)

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...erstood/59.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...CMCapture2.jpg

Moulin Rouge - INSPIRE AT2005

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ture7copia.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ture6copia.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ture9copia.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...MCapture12.jpg

Moulin Rouge - GAME AT2005, AUDIENCE Asia Tour 2007

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ture4copia.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ture2copia.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ure10copia.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ure11copia.jpg

Moulin Rouge - 1 LOVE Asia Tour 2007

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ture5copia.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...CMCapture3.jpg

Moulin Rouge - evolution Arena Tour 2002 (BEST of CDL)

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ture1copia.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ure14copia.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ure15copia.jpg


I have to say... I LOVE when she does this kind of things.

AyuGAME 13th April 2008 04:28 PM

i think that kind of theme is so general...so we can't say she copy it...
i just feel so tired with this kind of discussion...

AyUmIXx 13th April 2008 05:08 PM

yeah yeah, these moulin rouge theme is very common :)

Chibi_Venus 13th April 2008 07:18 PM

Even though I saw "Moulin Rouge!" way before any pictures of Arena Tour 2007, I didn't notice the similarity in the swing scene! ^^ That'd be interesting to see Ayu sing "Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend." :laugh

Raelian, after looking at your post, I never realised how much musical inspirations there were in her tours! The "Come What May" and "INSPIRE" outfit are certainly similar, as is the "Prima Donna" outfit/"HAPPY ENDING" outfit and the ballet after "Ill Muto"/"M."

Hmm... After seeing how similarities are found in "Moulin Rouge!" and "Phantom of the Opera," something tells me I'll expect a good answer from my submitted "I want to ask Ayu this!" question ("What musicals have you seen?"). That is, if it's even read. :P

zoomzoom 13th April 2008 08:11 PM

Whoa Raelian, that's a lot of inspiration she got! I never saw any of these movies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyuGAME (Post 1417557)
i think that kind of theme is so general...so we can't say she copy it...
i just feel so tired with this kind of discussion...

Um, no one said she copied it, we just thought it was cool to see where she got the ideas from and to see her take on those famous scenes. No one yelled "waah she copied!" And if you don't see obvious similarity, you're in denial.

Kikaru 13th April 2008 09:20 PM

It's actually pretty cool for me to see the musical ideas. It's pretty obvious that she's taken ideas from the moulin rouge. Her arena tours always tend to be a little on the theatrical side.

I want a west-side story inspired one. :D

naxxo.licious™ 13th April 2008 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoom (Post 1417895)
Um, no one said she copied it, we just thought it was cool to see where she got the ideas from and to see her take on those famous scenes. No one yelled "waah she copied!" And if you don't see obvious similarity, you're in denial.

Exactly. As i said before we just noticed some similarities by accident and thought it would be nice to post them here.

I think it's a great idea to get her inspiration from these musicals, specially Moulin Rouge, which is so glamorous, just as ayu.

@Raelian: WOW! Buen trabajo ;D! It seems that she's got more inspiration from it than we thought

majrakun 14th April 2008 03:33 PM

Haha, I love Moulin Rouge, so it's fine xD both are awesome so there's no problem in that <3

prussian blue 14th April 2008 03:45 PM

i found there's so much similiarity between ayu and cher
especially in AT06 and cher: farewell tour 2003

Queen Bee 14th April 2008 04:10 PM

This is all pretty cool! I'm surprised my sister hasn't pointed this out yet since she is a huge fan of Phantom of the Opera and Moulin Rouge.

freedreamer 14th April 2008 05:26 PM

At least there is a THEME to the concert..and not an aimless wan..

Catzi 14th April 2008 06:08 PM

I think ayu really likes the era. I mean, it is really awesome.

ayumixfan 15th April 2008 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guilty_me (Post 1418054)


Exactly. As i said before we just noticed some similarities by accident and thought it would be nice to post them here.

I think it's a great idea to get her inspiration from these musicals, specially Moulin Rouge, which is so glamorous, just as ayu.

@Raelian: WOW! Buen trabajo ;D! It seems that she's got more inspiration from it than we thought

LOL its ok SO what if she actually copied it. WHO CARES as long as it puts on a good show without looking cheesy its all good =3 ~! lol! Everything rips off something else lol XD ~! Just don't make it too obvious and its fine =3 But I know what u guys mean. She probably just got inspired by it and u guyst just noticed it by accident ^_^ thats cool thjo. WHY MUST U PEOPLE BE SO AWARE OF UR SUURROUNDINGS TOT I am oblvious to everything =(

AyuHamasaki01 15th April 2008 08:23 PM

:scry

We did Moulin Rouge as the school musical of 2008 ...
And I did the grime. Wooow, this makes me soo happy.

se7entheaven 16th April 2008 01:39 PM

ya so she really like Moulin Rouge theme lol
this year's AT is darker I think

ayu_fantasy 16th April 2008 04:29 PM

Perhaps she got some of the inspirations from there, but they are great! I'm glad that she got inspiration from Moulin Rouge coz it made her concert fantastic! Go Ayu!!

kinix 16th April 2008 04:37 PM

1) This isnt the 1st time she uses swings in her concert. refer to other concerts like arena tour 2002 and A museum.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raelian (Post 1417463)
I also noticed the inspiration of musicals in Arena Tour 2005 and BEST of CDL

The Phantom of the Opera - HAPPY ENDING AT2005

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...od/54copia.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ture8copia.jpg

The Phantom of the Opera - M Asia Tour 2007 (in the movie the ballet holds the same flower things)

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...erstood/59.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...CMCapture2.jpg

Moulin Rouge - INSPIRE AT2005

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ture7copia.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ture6copia.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ture9copia.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...MCapture12.jpg

Moulin Rouge - GAME AT2005, AUDIENCE Asia Tour 2007

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ture4copia.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ture2copia.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ure10copia.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ure11copia.jpg

Moulin Rouge - 1 LOVE Asia Tour 2007

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ture5copia.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...CMCapture3.jpg

Moulin Rouge - evolution Arena Tour 2002 (BEST of CDL)

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ture1copia.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ure14copia.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ure15copia.jpg


I have to say... I LOVE when she does this kind of things.

2) ur thinking too much if u've watch all of ayu's concert u can see that she's been improving on her concerts costumes (sort of upgrading the costumes)

freedreamer 16th April 2008 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by se7entheaven (Post 1422243)
ya so she really like Moulin Rouge theme lol
this year's AT is darker I think

as in 2008? Yea i feel so too HAHA

zoomzoom 16th April 2008 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kinix (Post 1422433)
1) This isnt the 1st time she uses swings in her concert. refer to other concerts like arena tour 2002 and A museum.

It's not that it's a swing, it's that it looks like ayu went out and bought the one used in Moulin Rouge :P They're identical. Then combined with the gold outfit and top hat, it's pretty similar.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kinix (Post 1422433)
2) ur thinking too much if u've watch all of ayu's concert u can see that she's been improving on her concerts costumes (sort of upgrading the costumes)

You can't deny the INSPIRE outfit.. I mean, look at the head piece! It's the same.

Why do ayu fans get so defensive..?

kinix 16th April 2008 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoom (Post 1422664)
It's not that it's a swing, it's that it looks like ayu went out and bought the one used in Moulin Rouge :P They're identical. Then combined with the gold outfit and top hat, it's pretty similar.



You can't deny the INSPIRE outfit.. I mean, look at the head piece! It's the same.

Why do ayu fans get so defensive..?

U sure the swings and head piece is identical? did ayu get inspired from Chun-li in arena Tour 2001?... nvm don't wana talk more about this.
Well if there's ppl who think the concert is inspired from Moulin Rouge, there's gotta b ppl who thinks otherwise. And that's me... :innocent:innocent

I'm not being defensive. Defensive with what? I would be happy if ayu gets inspired from the movie. As u guys said, it's inspiration not copy. So why would we be defensive against inspirations? Inspirations is positive thinking. right?

AyuHamasaki01 17th April 2008 04:02 PM

Well, I don't see how the headpiece is identical... it's similair. Not identical.

ayu_fantasy 17th April 2008 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoom (Post 1422664)
It's not that it's a swing, it's that it looks like ayu went out and bought the one used in Moulin Rouge :P They're identical. Then combined with the gold outfit and top hat, it's pretty similar.



You can't deny the INSPIRE outfit.. I mean, look at the head piece! It's the same.

Why do ayu fans get so defensive..?

We get defensive because we're her fans and we try our best to outright any unjust did to her. =)

And why are you so against her? Insisting tt she copied? XD

AyuHamasaki01 17th April 2008 05:18 PM

Be careful guys... Later you will say she copied Christian *points at evolution performed at Arena Tour 2002 and BEST of CDL*

reixminako 17th April 2008 06:22 PM

It's probably just 'cause AT 07 seemed to be a cabaret theme.

zoomzoom 17th April 2008 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_fantasy (Post 1423839)
We get defensive because we're her fans and we try our best to outright any unjust did to her. =)

And why are you so against her? Insisting tt she copied? XD

To quote myself on page one....

Quote:

Um, no one said she copied it, we just thought it was cool to see where she got the ideas from and to see her take on those famous scenes. No one yelled "waah she copied!"
Read through the thread next time. Do you really think those ideas popped into her head from nowhere? Everybody gets ideas from somewhere, she clearly got a lot of her concert ideas from musicals. They're always so theatrical. Like the kiss o'kill performance was clearly a reference to Phantom of the Opera. Just the beginning alone, then the capes.

And yea, I'd call the INSPIRE head piece near identical.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6...avlw1pmsh0.jpg http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9...6dv3npmaa4.jpg


What's so wrong about that?

[taskin.ayu] 17th April 2008 11:10 PM

Boo this wasn't even a copy thread. XD Now it has become one. D:

"You can't make up anything anymore. The world itself is a satire. All you're doing is recording it."

AyuHamasaki01 18th April 2008 09:20 PM

Ayu just got some inspiration from Moulin Rouge but Ayu gives it a whole different turn. Which is cool because you can't expect an artist, how great he/she is, to think of everthing her/himself.

zoomzoom 18th April 2008 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyuHamasaki01 (Post 1426016)
Ayu just got some inspiration from Moulin Rouge but Ayu gives it a whole different turn. Which is cool because you can't expect an artist, how great he/she is, to think of everthing her/himself.

Exactly.

naxxo.licious™ 21st April 2008 12:01 AM

I repeat. I made this thread just to pint out some similarities between ayu's Arena Tour 2007 and Moulin Rouge. Actually i think it's great that she got the INSPIRATION from this awesome movie, and i hope she keeps doing it, cause it gives her concerts a "movie" feeling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyuHamasaki01 (Post 1426016)
Ayu just got some inspiration from Moulin Rouge but Ayu gives it a whole different turn. Which is cool because you can't expect an artist, how great he/she is, to think of everthing her/himself.

That's my sailor!

minkAYuko 21st April 2008 01:49 AM

Buen tema guilty me! :D... si el columpio es el mismo tiene inclusive los diamantes esos incrustados..interesante observación! y Tiara también.
Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoom (Post 1424324)
And yea, I'd call the INSPIRE head piece near identical.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6...avlw1pmsh0.jpg http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9...6dv3npmaa4.jpg


What's so wrong about that?

interesting... never notice any of that... I think it's cool! n_n the moulin rouge costumes are also NOT original, they are inspire of dresses and costumes from that era so is all good. :D

truehappiness 21st April 2008 01:55 AM

I think Ayu tends to make things her own when she does draw inspiration from other places..

She has a unique Ayu-flair that she adds to the elements she does borrow from other sources.. :D

Jwiz 22nd April 2008 03:13 AM

TH you explained stuffs in a very pleasant way and yeah i agree with you =p..wow i saw alot of similarities there ^^..but anyway i really like evolution's performance...it's like one of the highlights of AT07.

prussian blue 22nd April 2008 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyuHamasaki01 (Post 1426016)
Ayu just got some inspiration from Moulin Rouge but Ayu gives it a whole different turn. Which is cool because you can't expect an artist, how great he/she is, to think of everthing her/himself.

IMO
Spoiler:
inspire is a word that better than copy

waterballoon 22nd April 2008 05:36 PM

LOL i'm loving whatever pics you guys are posting!

I hope Ayu will do some Shakespeare's musicals/novels next time... like Romeo & Juliet or Mac Beth ... that'll be SO COOL!

freedreamer 22nd April 2008 05:49 PM

^i tot HAPPY ENDING was very Romeo & Juliet HAHA

prussian blue 22nd April 2008 05:52 PM

^ and also part of me in AT07 is the japanese version of romeo and juliet!

truehappiness 23rd April 2008 06:13 AM

Well, AT08's End roll and HANABI also has that sort of theme too.

Since she started utilizing dancers [AT05] as "actors" in a sense... she's used that theme through each show.

waterballoon 23rd April 2008 03:32 PM

Yeah, that girl and boy tries to hold hands but one of them just disappears...

Deneb 23rd April 2008 03:55 PM

you people are thinking way too much xD I just watch :yes and enjoy it. who cares if it's copied / inspired by other shows. it's enough as long as i enjoy it :D


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