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fanmail 2nd May 2008 11:04 PM

WTF...
 
is a "Profile Infraction"?

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/5425/image2ed3.th.jpg

:irked

ImpactBreaker 2nd May 2008 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fanmail (Post 1446777)

It was minor mistake. It was supposed to be a "spam infraction" (the reason described). It doesn't make any difference anyway, between profile or spam, they're infractions either way :laugh

Profile infractions are infractions directed towards highly inappropriate avatar and signatures.

Yoy'd best remove that koda signature picture though..that can be worthy a profile infraction because it was already considered inappropriate for AHS:laugh

Foxxy_Fuyumi 2nd May 2008 11:12 PM

LOL
That is new for me love =\

fanmail 2nd May 2008 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 1446786)
It was minor mistake. It was supposed to be a "spam infraction". It doesn't make any difference anyway, between profile or spam, they're infractions either way :laugh

Profile infractions are infractions directed towards highly inappropriate avatar and signatures.

Yoy'd best remove that koda signature picture though..it can be worthy a profile infraction :laugh

oooh i see.

mind telling me where it's from. i barely posted all week, and i got no pm about it. =/

ImpactBreaker 2nd May 2008 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fanmail (Post 1446791)
oooh i see.

mind telling me where it's from. i barely posted all week, and i got no pm about it. =/

Here:

Quote:

Originally Posted by fanmail (Post 1433749)
^working... loudly? dirty or not. LOL. :D

I realise this is spam but... I DON'T CARE. :D:D:D:D:D:D


Quote:

Originally Posted by fanmail (Post 1433758)
lolololololol. play busday eve. that'll get her POPPIN.

***REPORT ME PLEASE 1 MORE INFRACTION TILL I GET BANNED***


Quote:

Originally Posted by fanmail (Post 1433766)
yeah. if b1tches think this thread is so spam filled, then fine, i'll live up to it. :sdevil

Quote:

Originally Posted by fanmail (Post 1433769)
i'm online. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by fanmail (Post 1433775)
I LOVE SPAM LALALALALALALALALALA.

yes, you gotta hear that song. it's soooooooooooooo hot. :yes


fanmail 2nd May 2008 11:23 PM

oh... that's right. ;)

ImpactBreaker 2nd May 2008 11:28 PM

Now do remember to change your signature LOL It's not appropriate :laugh

Partino 3rd May 2008 12:08 AM

^ha ... who would have thought that KUU-chan isn't appropriate for AHS .... :roflmao

zoomzoom 3rd May 2008 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Partino (Post 1446840)
^ha ... who would have thought that KUU-chan isn't appropriate for AHS .... :roflmao

Well that butt cheek picture was allowed :P

ImpactBreaker 3rd May 2008 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoom (Post 1446842)
Well that butt cheek picture was allowed :P

Which one?:shrug


Well, in the past that particular koda picture was considered not approriate in a staff discussion.

zoomzoom 3rd May 2008 12:38 AM

I believe KaoriNeko was the one with that butt cheek picture as avatar (not to point fingers at anyone) and it was just as "inappropiate" as fanmail's current signature.

I think it was part of this shoot:

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/3763/758138ls2.jpg

But I don't know too much about Koda.

KuroixShiroi_Namida 3rd May 2008 12:43 AM

^ :roflmao her body is so shiny

nmskalmn 3rd May 2008 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoom (Post 1446842)
Well that butt cheek picture was allowed :P

Nudity and sexually explicit pictures are definitely not allowed. If someone had something like that in their signature or avatar it's only because no one on the staff noticed and it wasn't reported.

ImpactBreaker 3rd May 2008 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoom (Post 1446885)
I believe KaoriNeko was the one with that butt cheek picture as avatar (not to point fingers at anyone) and it was just as "inappropiate" as fanmail's current signature.

I think it was part of this shoot:

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/3763/758138ls2.jpg

But I don't know too much about Koda.

Oh, i think i know which one you mean. There's a difference though, because in fanmail's sig, koda is completely nude. On that picture, koda is wearing bikini/beach wear. While some bikini poictures can be kinda on the gray zone, clear nudity pictures are out of question. :shrug
If anyone thought it was not appropriate though, it would be best to have reported it.

zoomzoom 3rd May 2008 12:48 AM

^Oh ok.. it was just that her whole butt cheek was visible, mirror it and you had a full one. It never bothered me that much, it's not that, just that you could actually see more of her butt in that avatar than fanmail's signature. But yea, she does look fully naked.

naxxo.licious™ 3rd May 2008 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 1446786)
Yoy'd best remove that koda signature picture though..that can be worthy a profile infraction because it was already considered inappropriate for AHS:laugh

Please fanny, it's not nice. It's nothing against koda, but that pic is a lil bit gross :/

U can always use this as your signature tho:

http://bhsec.bard.edu/~igarvey/hamtaro.jpg

pommy48 3rd May 2008 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guilty_me (Post 1447177)

@_@ :luv2 i would use it!

prussian blue 3rd May 2008 09:11 AM

^ me too me too~~~

i never hate hamtaro :heart

Corybobory 3rd May 2008 12:19 PM

It's a freaking naked butt. Change it for goodness sake.

AyuHamasaki01 3rd May 2008 12:36 PM

No offense but I don't see the problem *:innocent* Assuming we are talkin' about fanny's current siggy.

I mean, okay Kuu is naked but it's not like you see the front *doesn't know how to explain it well* Serious, I don't see the problem :shrug (Kuu is promoting the free nature)

Corybobory 3rd May 2008 12:39 PM

Kuu is promoting the shiny naked butt.

Deneb 3rd May 2008 12:40 PM

personally i don't see anything wrong with it ;) since kuu decided to put in the 12singles' obi. but then again, nudity/semi nudity is not allowed :P and since the mods had spoken. you should change it :yes

Zachery! 3rd May 2008 06:22 PM

I have a question ...

If AYU did a photoshoot like that (sexually explicit) would we be allowed to use it?

I mean, LOVEppears, appears, RAINBOW, and Mirrorcle World covers are kinda ... "hi, i'm naked" but not like, "hi, look at my sexy smokin' hot body"

well, if she made on of THOSE, would we be allowed to use it?

Since it's an Ayu forum ...

Calico 3rd May 2008 06:31 PM

^I would think that it doesn't matter who it is, it's the level of appropriateness in question. So no, if even Ayu did something like that, it probably wouldn't be allowed in graphics.

AyuHamasaki01 3rd May 2008 07:09 PM

I don't see the problem here!
Infact... Kumi IS wearing clothes

Spoiler:

Invisible clothes :devious

ImpactBreaker 3rd May 2008 07:41 PM

LOL nanotechnology clothes? :devious

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery! (Post 1448090)
I have a question ...

If AYU did a photoshoot like that (sexually explicit) would we be allowed to use it?

I mean, LOVEppears, appears, RAINBOW, and Mirrorcle World covers are kinda ... "hi, i'm naked" but not like, "hi, look at my sexy smokin' hot body"

well, if she made on of THOSE, would we be allowed to use it?

Since it's an Ayu forum ...

Just like Calico mentioned, it wouldn't be allowed. Fortunately her nudity covers have all been well covered. If you compare that koda picture with Mirrorcle World, at least ayu was covering herself and the picture doesn't show her whole body.

There's one kanariya making of clip that I believe was prohibited here once because it shows ayu opening her legs and showing the view from the lower parts and apparently she seems to be without underwear and you can sort of vaguely see something else :laugh

truehappiness 3rd May 2008 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 1448144)
LOL nanotechnology clothes? :devious



Just like Calico mentioned, it wouldn't be allowed. Fortunately her nudity covers have all been well covered. If you compare that koda picture with Mirrorcle World, at least ayu was covering herself and the picture doesn't show her whole body.

There's one kanariya making of clip that I believe was prohibited here once because it shows ayu opening her legs and showing the view from the lower parts and apparently she seems to be without underwear and you can sort of vaguely see something else :laugh

I think she probably was wearing underwear, it was just.. uh... yeah... up..

KaoriNeko 3rd May 2008 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoom (Post 1446885)
I believe KaoriNeko was the one with that butt cheek picture as avatar (not to point fingers at anyone) and it was just as "inappropiate" as fanmail's current signature.

I think it was part of this shoot:

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/3763/758138ls2.jpg

But I don't know too much about Koda.

Yeah, that was me. I'm not sure who it was, but someone did have a problem with it. Now my cousin is using the set and I don't think she's had problems with it.

But with the whole naked butt thing...it isn't a naked butt. It's a profile. We don't see any nipples or butt crack so how can it be offensive? Ayu is showing us plenty of cleavage on the Mirrorcle World covers but that isn't against the rules...

zoomzoom 3rd May 2008 09:53 PM

^I think a thong qualifies as a butt crack. Plus the whole cheek is exposed.

*Edit: Just realized you were talking about fanmails signature :P Still a stretch to compare it to MW covers..

ownsarai 4th May 2008 12:01 AM

People obviously are not understanding the reasoning behind this, but I do...it's inappropriate.
Spoiler:
(and Kuu looks pretty much naked to me)

It would just be better to abide by the rules, change your siggy and move on. :shrug

Partino 4th May 2008 12:37 AM

I bet she wasn't naked while she did that photoshoot .. they just edited her lingerie away ... AVEX has probably an own departement for this ... LOL

truehappiness 4th May 2008 02:28 AM

I'm pretty sure Koda was naked during several photoshoots and PV shoots. :|

And it's not even close to compare Ayu's MW cover since Ayu barely has any cleavage to begin with. >|

ImpactBreaker 4th May 2008 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1448536)
I'm pretty sure Koda was naked during several photoshoots and PV shoots. :|
|

PV shoots? i don't think so...i can't remember any PV from her in which she appears completely naked at the moment....

KaoriNeko 4th May 2008 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1448536)
And it's not even close to compare Ayu's MW cover since Ayu barely has any cleavage to begin with. >|

There's definitely cleavage there.

Kuu was never naked for PV shoots. What are you talking about?

Partino 4th May 2008 03:37 AM

^that's something I'm also interested in ... in which PV was she naked??? Have I missed it?? If so, can you upload it ... wait ... in that case ... PM a link to a uploud, 'cause stuff like that isn't allowed here at AHS .. :rolleyes

Corybobory 4th May 2008 03:42 AM

You roll your eyes as if it's a strange rule

Partino 4th May 2008 03:50 AM

^it's just that this whole discussion is getting a lil out of hand ... there's nothing in his sig what you wouldn't see at ... hmm ... the BEACH?!?!?! .. it's not like she's full frontal naked and rubbing ... well ... something ...let's say HUSTLER style ...

EDIT: DON'T GET ME WRONG ON THIS!!!! XXX and stuff alike on AHS is not appropriate, but this sig?!?! come on!!!

KaoriNeko 4th May 2008 04:21 AM

^:yes
I agree. Just imagine Kuu to be sunbathing. She's not doing anything inappropriate in the sig at all, she's just lounging around with a microphone.

pommy48 4th May 2008 04:23 AM

wow such a heated discussion in the FAQ section...most people change their sigs a lot, it's not like fanmail is going to stick with that sig forever...just change it...

Partino 4th May 2008 04:44 AM

^well ... he should ... but the reason is like ... BLEH!!!

truehappiness 4th May 2008 07:15 AM

She's naked in a few 12 singles PVs, right?

Oh well, whatever. Who really cares, right?

AyuHamasaki01 4th May 2008 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 1448144)
There's one kanariya making of clip that I believe was prohibited here once because it shows ayu opening her legs and showing the view from the lower parts and apparently she seems to be without underwear and you can sort of vaguely see something else :laugh

:roflmao I have to see that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaoriNeko (Post 1448207)
Yeah, that was me. I'm not sure who it was, but someone did have a problem with it. Now my cousin is using the set and I don't think she's had problems with it.

But with the whole naked butt thing...it isn't a naked butt. It's a profile. We don't see any nipples or butt crack so how can it be offensive? Ayu is showing us plenty of cleavage on the Mirrorcle World covers but that isn't against the rules...

LOL, show the avi to me.


Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1448887)
She's naked in a few 12 singles PVs, right?

Oh well, whatever. Who really cares, right?

You didn't see anything fun, if you mean that.

bondingo 4th May 2008 02:56 PM

I'm speaking in defense of fanmail's sig as well, because honestly, I think people are being quite prudish. I don't think she's being oertly sexual in it, and there is nothing you can actually see. It is suggestive, sure, but you don't actually see her entire ass. It's like the cover to LOVEppears: nothing can actually be seen fully, but part of her breasts can be seen and that isn't considered by the staff to be offensive.

ImpactBreaker 4th May 2008 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondingo (Post 1449382)
I'm speaking in defense of fanmail's sig as well, because honestly, I think people are being quite prudish. I don't think she's being oertly sexual in it, and there is nothing you can actually see. It is suggestive, sure, but you don't actually see her entire ass. It's like the cover to LOVEppears: nothing can actually be seen fully, but part of her breasts can be seen and that isn't considered by the staff to be offensive.

The LOVEppears cover can't even be compared to that. Ayu at least is wearing jeans, and the hair covering her breasts isn't really any different from wearing a bikini there, both have a simillar effect even though you can deduce ayu's topless. Koda is completely naked on that picture - and you can see far more breast and butt crack than you can see in LOVEppears / Mirrorcle World / UNITE! / RAINBOW. It's my personal opinion what I'll say now but, in LOVEppears ayu looks more like a fashion model, in that ku''s picture she looks more like she's promoting porn.

Also, if such a signature like that is accepted, it's not long before some members will bring avatars with naked porn actors touching their crotches with pictures cut a few milimiters before we can see their genitals (some even showing pubic hair), trying to stretch the staff tolerance as much as they can. I'm speaking from experience, because this has truly happened here. It's just what many, and I'm not kidding, initiates have done in the past, started with something mildly risque and progressed to worse and worse pictures, and even created threads whining about the the staff's decision when we had to pm them and remove their ava/sigs.

I was thinking about posting examples here, but i decided to remove them, because I think it's unnecessary to explain further :laugh

bondingo 4th May 2008 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 1449513)
It's my personal opinion what I'll say now but, in LOVEppears ayu looks more like a fashion model, in that ku''s picture she looks more like she's promoting porn.

...and even created threads whining about the the staff's decision when we had to pm them and remove their ava/sigs.

Points well-taken. I know exactly the thread you are referring to (obviously an entirely different one from the one in the third paragraph) and I can see why this current debate would lead you to feel the way you do about it. I can't say that I disagree with you, all things considered.

ImpactBreaker 4th May 2008 05:28 PM

Oh well, signature finally removed (compulsorily) for good :)

fanmail 4th May 2008 08:27 PM

Well, that's not fair. The LOVEppears or Mirrorcle World covers are just as suggestive. You can't even SEE anything on that Koda picture.

Wow, an outline.

*shock! horror! call the cops for indecent exposure!!*

It's not like she was opening her crack to us. :rolleyes

Besides, I'm sure the members here have seen worse than the outline of a body. Ugh.

KaoriNeko 4th May 2008 08:39 PM

^:yes
I agree. But apparently it's inappropriate even though there's thousands of sets with Ayu's cleavage floating around. >,>

JUICYxJEWEL 4th May 2008 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 1449513)
The LOVEppears cover can't even be compared to that. Ayu at least is wearing jeans, and the hair covering her breasts isn't really any different from wearing a bikini there, both have a simillar effect even though you can deduce ayu's topless.

So hair is similar to a bikini top? Is that any hair or will hair that I think is similar to a bikini bottom get me in trouble? :innocent

qwerty 4th May 2008 08:49 PM

I think the sig is pretty inappropriate because you can basically see an entire side of her body. Ayu at least covers most of her body on the LOVEppears cover, whether she does it with clothes or with her hair. Kumi is essentially exposing one of her butt cheeks and most of her body.

ImpactBreaker 4th May 2008 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JUICYxJEWEL (Post 1449937)
So hair is similar to a bikini top? Is that any hair or will hair that I think is similar to a bikini bottom get me in trouble? :innocent

For real...LOVEppears cover does not scream porn in it. That's my point. I'm not saying hair equals bikini, but in the LOVeppears cover, the hair is covering her boobs very well. You can obviously cross a line and realize ayu's cover doesn't have the direct intention of highlighting her sexual features. That koda picture on the other hand is totally the opposite even though they try to cover it a bit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaoriNeko (Post 1449926)
^:yes
I agree. But apparently it's inappropriate even though there's thousands of sets with Ayu's cleavage floating around. >,>

Just report the things you find inappropriate. Period.

None of the ayu sets i've seem "floating around" are anywhere as over the gray zone as that kuu picture is.

Piccolo 4th May 2008 09:08 PM

We have a lot of whiners here. If the staff asks you to change your signature, something VERY simple to do, you should just comply. The initiates here don't get to interpret rules to their own liking.

milky_way 4th May 2008 09:14 PM

I can't believe a picture is causing this much wank from both sides :dead2

fanmail 4th May 2008 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piccolo (Post 1449966)
We have a lot of whiners here. If the staff asks you to change your signature, something VERY simple to do, you should just comply. The initiates here don't get to interpret rules to their own liking.

I don't know if you read this thread or not, but that's not what it was originally about.. :no

Corybobory 4th May 2008 09:30 PM

Maybe he just meant it as a general truth, since it's generally true.

fanmail 4th May 2008 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corybobory (Post 1449988)
Maybe he just meant it as a general truth, since it's generally true.

Oh, well maybe. But it just sounded like it was directed at me. :P

Corybobory 4th May 2008 11:12 PM

Well, you were asked to remove your sig, and you didn't...

emi♡ 5th May 2008 01:15 AM

It is a general truth. It probably was directed at you. Next time just remove it.

As in regards to what is allowed and what isn't, the mods obviously discuss these things, and when they decide something is inappropriate, it's inappropriate and that's it.

It isn't really a big deal. If someone has THAT big a problem with not being allowed to show certain pictures, then they can leave and post them somewhere else.

sugarbasil 5th May 2008 01:18 AM

Whether or not the staff or the user finds the picture offensive, someone did and reported it. It's as simple as that; someone was offended, whether you were or not.

And there are plenty of other pictures out there, seriously.

Halla 5th May 2008 10:18 AM

I'm pretty sure that Kanariya making-of clip is just people imagining seeing something there because of the video quality, I don't think official video like that would get past the screeners or whatever when they're producing it.

I personally don't think any of koda kumi's or other j-pop singers photoshoots or whatever are too risque for AHS in the appropriate place, but people should take into consideration what they put in their sigs because some people don't want to see that & that's ok.
if you see an Ayu sig that you feel is inappropriate, feel free to report it.

and IMO LOVEppears cover is not sexy or suggestive, nudity does not always equal sexy.

KuroixShiroi_Namida 5th May 2008 10:25 AM

The LOVEppears cover imo is not attractive at all :dead2

AyuHamasaki01 5th May 2008 10:37 AM

^True. But I still don't see the problem :shrug

fanmail 5th May 2008 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarbasil (Post 1450160)
Whether or not the staff or the user finds the picture offensive, someone did and reported it. It's as simple as that; someone was offended, whether you were or not.

And there are plenty of other pictures out there, seriously.

Uh, how about no? It wasn't reported. Just read the thread. Ugh. :o

AyuHamasaki01 5th May 2008 10:59 AM

^Just to cheer you up!
You can always make it your wallpaper (together with the boob shaking thing from BC tour :bchuck)

:innocent

ImpactBreaker 5th May 2008 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fanmail (Post 1450554)
Uh, how about no? It wasn't reported. Just read the thread. Ugh. :o

Did you pay attention towhat I said? :laugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 1446786)
Yoy'd best remove that koda signature picture though..that can be worthy a profile infraction because it was already considered inappropriate for AHS:laugh

it was - in the past. Meaning that picture has already been reported in the past, and by a staff decision, considered inappropriate. :)

sugarbasil 5th May 2008 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fanmail (Post 1450554)
Uh, how about no? It wasn't reported. Just read the thread. Ugh. :o

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 1451106)
Did you pay attention towhat I said? :laugh

I don't even think I need to write anything to respond to that. You just got put in your place without me doing it. :laugh

AyuHamasaki01 5th May 2008 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 1451106)
Did you pay attention towhat I said? :laugh

You can always write a book about it.

-Link- 6th May 2008 07:28 AM

hey look at me, i have a problem and im going to get it my way!

MY WAY!!!

BECAUSE ITS MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY!!!

I DONT CAREEEEE, IM SO RIGHT! IM RIGHT ALL THE TIME!!!! IM AMAZING!!!!!! UGH WHATEVER YOU LOSERS! IM GOING TO START MY OWWWWWN FORUM AND ITS GOING TO BE SOOOOO FUN. AND YOU CANT COME. AND ITS GOING TO BE MY FRIENDS AND ME!

:bgiggle

sugarbasil 6th May 2008 09:02 AM

^^Then it wouldn't be very fun, would it? Who would want to be in a forum run by some lame kid in green with a bird on his head?



Just kidding, Link. :P I'd totally want to join. I like birds. XD

-Link- 6th May 2008 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarbasil (Post 1452019)
^^Then it wouldn't be very fun, would it? Who would want to be in a forum run by some lame kid in green with a bird on his head?



Just kidding, Link. :P I'd totally want to join. I like birds. XD

punk :eviltongu

ill give YOu bird on your head! :laugh

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7...ishmentir3.jpg

:trout

JUICYxJEWEL 6th May 2008 04:20 PM

I do think it's funny that fanmails picture is supposedly in bad taste yet we can have a thread discussing 15 year old Miley Cyrus going topless

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showpo...5&postcount=98

The same thread also has pics of her in a top and knickers. Call me crazy but a 20-something 'woman' laying down with you seeing little more than you would if she wore a bikini vs a 15 year old girl posing topless and looking used ... Is something not right here?

Luv ~Venus~ 6th May 2008 04:30 PM

^....but she was only topless and covered up but bare back. Although it's disgusted that a 15 year-old did a pic like that, Miley is much more conservative in that pic than Koda was in her pic. The OBI strip pic of Koda is definitely a nude pic of her. Although Kuu is lying on the floor, you and I both know that that gurl ain't wearin' no panties nor bra plus, she isn't covered up. <~Just layin' naked on the floor. I, quite frankly, dislike that picture of Kuu. <~A completely unnecessary photo!

As for you fanny, PLESE. DON'T. PULL. A. WES. I don't need both of my babies gone. :weep

ownsarai 6th May 2008 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Link- (Post 1452074)
punk :eviltongu

ill give YOu bird on your head! :laugh

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7...ishmentir3.jpg

:trout

XD too funny!

bondingo 7th May 2008 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1452402)
As for you fanny, PLESE. DON'T. PULL. A. WES. I don't need both of my babies gone. :weep

If only you knew how ironic that statement was :laugh

fanmail 7th May 2008 03:20 PM

If you guys could stop making fun of me and taking digs at me, that would be nice. Or am I asking too much? Ugh.

ImpactBreaker 7th May 2008 03:53 PM

Yeah, I think this whole issue is over for now


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