The 4th Official Thread of Olivia Lufkin~TRINKA TRINKA~
 

YAY, Discussion TIME!!!
I know the title sucks, but I couldn't think of anything else...:(

Latest Release:
CD+DVD COVER:
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6...cr14597iq7.jpg
CD ONLY COVER:
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/69/ctcr14598dt8.jpg
Trinka Trinka(Mini-Album)
09/17/08
CD:
1.Trinka Trinka
2.Rain
3.Because
4.Collecting Sparkles
5.Miss You
6.Your Smile

DVD:
1.Rain

I quite like Trinka Trinka, and I've grown to love the covers as well. XD Why can't she ever release full albums? D;

This is a nice album. It's a lot better than her past few releases.

I think she doesn't have a habit of releasing full albums . I think she placed quality over quantity ?

Yeah I guess it's better that way. D: Plus with the time it takes her to make a mini-album, it probably will take muccch longer to make a full one. D:

How is Trinka Trinka doing on the charts? I can't seem to find it on the rankings...

that's right & besides you look at how badly The Lost Lolli performed when it was put out :dead2

umm Jacky , Trinka Trinka debuted at no.28 on the 1st day

I don't know for today

^ Oh cheers, Karen. Typical for an OLVIA mini album. :P

I'm happy that it appeared on the charts. ^^

true but I was hoping that it can chart/sell better than The Cloudy Dreamer , guess not :(

I'm going to get the CD only edition of Trinka Trinka from the local HMV over the weekend I think . I called them earlier on & they brought in stock already from Japan .

I"m not crazy over the price though , it's S$36.95 :dead2

I was hoping Trinka Trinka would debut higher on the charts, but other than the tie in with Keitai Sosakan 7 it's not a heavily promoted album. With The Cloudy Dreamer she was riding on the coattails of her NANA recognition, which I believe that's why it ranked as high as it did. But the upcoming live concert she's having I think might boost up the sales. But what the hell am I saying? #28 is good.

I guess since the strength & success releases of a little pain & Wish/Starless Night were able to push the ranks of The Cloudy Dreamer to its peak position of no.15

I still hope she can put out another official single instead of making 1 PV to promote the EP

I like the mini-album's CD-only cover more than the CD+DVD cover, which is rare for me (usually companies make the CD+DVD cover prettier so people will buy it, as it costs more than the CD-only version).

I want to know why the SpidERZpins so beautiful....

This should be the title of one of the OLIVIA's threads LOL


New mini album is a little on the mediocre side...I still prefer the stuff she produced when she was "high on her meth and suicidal" days (j/k)....Bizarre songs like Blind Unicorn and Purple Box, with bizarre lyrics and cool titles like SpidERZpins and 57Sto R M03 LOL

I LOVE "Rain" a lot though!

^I agree, her cracktastic songs where amazing. But I like Trinka Trinka, my only real gripe is that I feel a lot of the songs where too long.

I didn't like her much but I tried her out and I don't regret it. I like the mini-album, especially Trinka Trinka and Rain :yes

Because is awesome~!! I love this song sooo much!!

"Trinka Trinka" is awesome (the song). I enjoy the mini-album, it might not be CRAZY, but it's miles better than The Cloudy Dreamer

I bought the Japan press , CD only of Trinka Trinka which the local HMV imported from Japan :D

gonna take a pic of it real soon

Yeah the crazy stuff was great but I really like this album too. Trinka Trinka and Rain got stuck in my head almost instantly ^__^

does anyone feel that Miss you sounds like Bleeding Heart in a way ?

EDIT :

as promised , a pic of my copy of Trinka Trinka :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/DSCF1800.jpg

yay this's my 2nd photobook coming from her . I also have the photobook from The Cloudy Dreamer too :D

It looks really nice! (I'm so going to buy it one day, even if it's a decade later.)

yes it's & the CD itself's so pretty , it was like a work of art iterally

^Hey Karen, what does the actual disc look like?

I can take a pic of it & show you dude , give me a sec :)

EDIT - here you go . Sorry the quality of the pic's not really good as I used my Sony Ericsson K800i phone to take it . I wanted to use my family's camera to do so but my younger sister took it today to school

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/DSC01112.jpg

& oh you remember there's 1 part/line in Rain where OLIVIA apparently sang 'the rain is back oh s-it ?' ? It's actually 'the rain is vanishing' after I checked the lyrics

^Thanks =D~

^ no problem

I have a feeling that OLIVIA probably drew the pics on the CD itself because she did so for the photobook

I can scan the CD itself if you want a better HQ quality of it

I really like the way the disc has a design to it <3 I definately want to pick this up sometime, it's really neat =D Has she done this in the past on her discs *doesn't own a single Olivia CD ;_;*

I have The Cloudy Dreamer (CD Only) & Trinka Trinka (CD Only)

I checked the disc of TCD earlier on & it's just pure black in colour :dead2 so Trinka Trinka's CD is really very pretty :D

OLIVIA's very artsy, it seems. :) Even the CD itself is gorgeous.

Yeah it looks very nice! I've seen a few of her drawings, they're really nice :yes

The rest of Trinka Trinka is really growing on me too now! It's my new wake-up-get-ready-for-school album now ^_^

nice & she also draws all the pics in the latest Trinka Trinka photobook too , quite abstract stuff going on in there

I will take better pics of The Cloudy Dreamer & Trinka Trinka's discs in time to come

Olivia didn't start putting personal designs on her cd's and albums till she switched to "Cutting Edge". When she was still on the main "Avex Trax" label her cd's were pretty much standard / boring. When I get home later I'll scan them for you.

Does Video Clips count? :tired It's from cutting edge, but the disc is like... plain white with the words "Video Clips OLIVIA" on it. :<

oh I didn't realise that

I really like the Trinka Trinka CD it's so beautiful

you happen to have the DVD of it bcos mine's the CD only edition

In that case, I might limit my OLIVIA purchases to the ones after she switched to cutting edge.

Scans:

Into the Stars:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13...tothestars.png

Internal Bleeding Strawberry:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13...rawberrycd.png

The Lost Lolli:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13...elostlolli.png

a little pain (CD+DVD):

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13...littlepain.png

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13...tlepaindvd.png

I really like the Into The Stars disc <3~ But that whole single is just made of win, so it makes sense the disc would be so pretty <3

I like The Lost Lolli.

SpidER Spis so beautiful! ;P

Yes, "The Lost Lolli" looks awesome

thanks for the scans of OLIVIA's CDs , they're very pretty

Her drawings are one more reason that I love her.
Thanks for the scans <3.

No need for thanks guys, I'm just happy that those who haven't seen them before saw them :)

Not every cd that she's released with Cutting Edge has her drawings on it.

My Trinka Trinka cd's haven't come in yet..sadness. But I think the CD+DVD version is probably the same. It's been like that with all of her releases.

So which mini-albums ( from this new "happier" era. ) do you guys feel is stronger? I personally like Trinka Trinka better than "The Cloudy Dreamer". The Cloudy Dreamer's concept ( A battle between the mind and the heart. ) was good, but the songs weren't as strong as the concept, not to mention she included two NANA songs: which pissed me off. :irked I was looking at the lyrics in Trinka Trinka's booklet and I gotta say that the lyrics felt more "OLIVIA" to me. "Internal carousel cues an upright rainbow", and "Neurosis deep within me" ... stuff like that reminds me more of her "dark" era. The Cloudy Dreamer did have it's "OLIVIA" moments, but I felt like it was dumbed down like her NANA music.

Hmm... I can't really make that decision. I really do adore most of the songs on The Cloudy Dreamer, especially Stars Shinning Out, Cut Me Free and Who's gonna stop it?. With Trinka Trinka, I definately like every track, which is a plus over Cloudy Dreamer, but I feel like the tracks on Trinka Trinka are too long, they take way to long to get anywhere.

I'm surprised you feel that way! To be honest I don't think I'd use the word "long" to describe anything about Trinka Trinka - it's so... short that it leaves me feeling frustrated, but then I end up putting the album on a constant loop so XD I guess that works out.

I read this interview last year but forgot a lot of stuff that was in it. No wonder why I felt like her new stuff felt "dumbed down":

I can't wait to hear the music she's really wanting to do.

You guys should really check out this interview. She did it with purple SKY magazine last year. You gain a better understanding of why her new mini-albums are "pop", and so much other cool stuff. It's found at the annaetolivia.canalblog.com gallery. Here's the link: Click When she said this:

I'm like "You rock!" :love

Okay, after thorough listens of Trinka Trinka, I'm only liking the first two tracks on the mini-album. I just can't get into the rest of the songs. I miss Livey's experimentation days~

I have yet to listen to Trinka Trinka, but I will now! :)

I think The Cloudy Dreamer is better than Trinka Trinka. Dunno the reason why, I just think the songs are better.. Although I love TT as well *o*

The Cloudy Dreamer seemed more rock-pop, whereas Trinka Trinka is more pop-rock. Does that make sense? Either way, I love both mini-albums. Rain is a great song, and the electronics/synth used in Trinka Trinka are fantastic.

I only listened from The Cloudy Dreamer EP onwards so I can't really comment much on this

I haven't actually listened to Synchronicity - how is it, compared to The Cloudy Dreamer, Trinka Trinka, and The Lost Lolli?

I promised GRACE a while back ago that I will take better pics of The Cloudy Dreamer & Trinka Trinka CDs since I have both the CD only editions of it so here you go :

TCD :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/DSCF1818.jpg

lol told you it's stupid :dead2

TT :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/DSCF1816.jpg

I still like the disc of TT <3

synchronicity isn't a bad album, it's just not cohesive ( kinda ironic with the title of the album right? ) Some of the songs are pop, some are alternative rock, then you have some experimental / electronic songs that we all know her for.

That's what everyone is talking about though. Which mini-album is better so far: The Cloudy Dreamer or Trinka Trinka.

I like both actually although I must admit it took me quite a while to warm up to Trinka Trinka since the style on there's quite different from The Cloudy Dreamer

The Cloudy Dreamer is better, imho. ^^

to me it will be better if the original version of Wish & Starless Night were to be included

not really that used to the Eng version of Wish though

Mmm, the English lyrics don't seem to fit properly, haha.

yes exactly that was what I wanted to say as well Jacky

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5...rwoohooqq4.jpg

WOOHOO!

apparently OLIVIA will be performing this coming Fri at the 2 hours MUSIC STATION special , maybe she will do Rain ?

1st week sales of Trinka Trinka

76 **1,747 OLIVIA

argh this's terrible T_T :weep

It wasn't able to match up to The Cloudy Dreamer which peaked at no.15 overall in the 1st week :(

^
I don't think it's that bad... I mean, 76 isn't good anyway, but not doing well like TCD was not a surprise, because at that time she was being more in the spotlight because of NANA.. There seems to have no promotion at all for this one ._.'

Why doesn't she do more promotion? Is it her (and her introversion) or is it her label? I'm sure Rain could be a big hit given enough spotlight. Hopefully her performance on Friday will boost sales.

From the interviews I've read it seems like she really doesn't like promoting things. Back in '06 when olivialufkinonline did a small interview with her on "a little pain", they asked her "Are you planning any TV performances?" and she replied "Hopefully not."

And I agree that the sales are kind of expected from her limited promotion. It's such a pity though because "Trinka Trinka" is such a good album. Oh well, I did my part by buying 2 copies of her album.

Sometimes I'd wish she'd just leave Avex / Japan and make music for Western audiences like her sister. I'm not saying she doesn't have a fanbase in Japan, but I think more people over in the UK, U.S, and Canada would appreciate, connect, and understand the type of music she does. #76? Even with low promotion that's just freakin' insane.

76!! All the good artists chart poorly nowadays :(

And to me, Trinka Trinka is so much better (SO MUCH) than The Cloudy Dreamer

is there any reason/s why she's so reductant to promote her material via performance shows ?

I think she has an anxiety about it, or perhaps a lack of confidence? I remember reading that one of the items she said (a few years back) that she kept with her was a Japanese phrase book which I personally found odd/interesting as she's clearly bilingual and, as far as I can tell, fluent. Maybe she lacks confidence not only in performing but in her ability to communicate and "connect" to the crowd? It sounds strange, saying that a musician or an artist has stage fright because you almost expect them to be the opposite but OLIVIA always struck me as a very reserved, shy and sort of closed-off young woman who may completely dread the idea of performing even though she creates music that so many people listen to.

^

now that you have mention it you do make a good point there . My younger sister was commenting that OLIVIA's Japanese dictation's not as good as her Eng command

maybe she's the type who just wants to get her music heard & that she feels she doesn't need any type of promo to reach out to the masses as well

I wouldn't exactly call Olivia fluent. She clearly sounds like a "Gaijin" when speaking in Japanese and she still writes her lyrics first in English and has someone else translate them in Japanese. In fact in her interview at PMX she said when she's mad she can't express her anger correctly in Japanese, which makes her come off as shy or "cute".

I quickly made this today. This is what the CD+DVD cover of Trinka Trinka should have looked like:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13...kafancover.png

^ which is why I said "as far as I can tell" when I mentioned her fluency, implying that it was only my opinion and pure speculation.

Nice job on the cover!

Okay. I wasn't trying to be an a-hole or anything.

And thanks :D

I didn't think you were! Oh, I'm sorry if I sounded defensive, I was just elaborating a little more.

BTW, your location - does that have to do with Jacqueline Carey?


Also btw: I'm definitely going to use that cover art as the album artwork for Trinka Trinka in iTunes now D:

Oh...my...God. You rock!

No one has ever figured that out in all the forums I post in. I guess they don't read Jacqueline Carey, who is a genius by the way. Phedre FTW!!! :luv2

Oh and no need to apologize. It's hard to discern if someone's serious or not for me; cause you can't tell sometimes on the internet if someone's mad? S'cool. :P
And your using my pic on your iTunes? Awesome! I think it would have been a better cover. Olivia should have gotten me to do her covers :innocent

Well she did do a-nation once and I only watched the dress me up performance, the crowd wasn't enthusiastic cause I think they could tell she was nervous, it seems to me like the more nervous she is, the worse her vocals are when performing, she did superb in the lives that came with TCD's DVD.

:luv2 I adore Jacqueline Carey~. Totally serious right now but Phedre is something of a hero to me, haha.

You should "accidentally" message her on Myspace with your art and see if she says anything :innocent

It's too bad she has stage fright, but I suppose as long as she keeps producing good music it's fine. Hopefully her record label won't drop her for low sales. I wonder if her stage fright would lessen if she appeared publicly more and had more practice/experience with crowds? I use to have the same problem, but it more or less disappeared for me the more I interacted with others.

She's lived in Japan a long time, hasn't she? I'm surprised she isn't near fluent. Doesn't she use Japanese on a daily basis? Even if she has an American accent, she still ought to be able to speak somewhat well.

I think the thing about her singing in Japan is that Japan allows her more freedom with her music. A lot of artists test songs by releasing them in Japan first. In America, her record label might push her to do more mainstream music, which she clearly isn't aiming for.

It depends on the label, though. If she was marketed as a pop act then she would absolutely be pressured to create things that lack her 'touch' or actual compassion, but I think if she signed with a label that wasn't so strict or allowed their artists a certain amount of free reign I can't see it being a problem, you know? The one example that comes to mind immediately is the band The Dresden Dolls. They've recently announced an indefinite hiatus -- frightening news for me, a hu~ge fan -- as the pianist/singer is doing her solo project and the drummer has been hopping around between his own personal projects. Their label used to be one the pianist had of her own (8ft Records) but they've since moved to a more "mainstream" label that seems to have done good and bad for them. The good is that (it seems) they haven't dropped them or pressured them to release albums to meet certain deadlines. Their last "legitimate" record (as in a record of relatively new material and not B-sides and covers) came out about two and a half years ago now. Their last release this year was a B-side compilation album, and then the announcement of their hiatus. The bad is that they were worked to the effin' bone touring all over the US and over major continents of the world to promote their album and themselves, and that must be exhausting.

Just my two cents, but I think if OLIVIA ever came States-side and she found the right label for her she may not be pushed to do anything besides what she feels comfortable doing, plus she could just go around to small venues (bars, little clubs and all that) in a few cities to "get her feet wet" as far as performing live goes.

I really do feel that Trinka Trinka is a solid record that could sell very well here in the US. She's sort of "eclectic," you know? She's different, a refreshing burst of music and style in an otherwise stagnant and droll market.

It seems to me that Olivia has no problems understanding Japanese since she doesn't have any problem doing interviews and what not on her own. I'm guessing that during her random periods of long break, in which she moved to America, she didn't use it at all or very sparingly if she did so. Her Japanese sounds more like it's from disuse rather than being unable to speak it. I'm guessing during her upbringing she was more exposed to English rather than Japanese. I think she mentioned that somewhere.

I think it's more of the case that when someone puts you on the spot in interviews/tv spots you get nervous and have a harder time communicating in another language. Because I definitely have this problem, but in a casual setting without someone's focus on me, I don't do the hesitative, drawing for words that she does.

I, personally, don't want Olivia to try for the American market. I find her voice very pleasant when she sings in Japanese, even if it's not properly pronounced. I don't think she would have as much leeway with her creative freedom to the songs she likes as Avex gives her. Also, they probably wouldn't be as patient considering the long time it takes her to put out new material.

Again, though, that would depend on the record label and the contract they offer her. Her current label is incredibly generous and lenient with her not only with the gaps between her releases but the fact that her second album, The Lost Lolli, was entirely in English and marketed to a Japanese market. It seems like a really bold move, you know? I can't imagine many other artists being allowed that kind of freedom and I'm glad she has it.

She could just do what Dir en grey did and find a US label to put out her music as-is (as in no translating* or changing of the songs to make it more "accessible" to the US listeners) :P. Her songs are a mixture of English and Japanese which is a lovely combination, I think. The blend of the two languages in her songs is really interesting to me especially since many other Japanese artists attempt an English blend and fail on an epic scale.



*I'm aware that Uroboros's US release is going to have two songs with English choruses, but this isn't their first US release so I can't see that as them being pressured, more like a choice of the band. At least it isn't another Rammstein "Du Hast" = "You Hate" debacle x_x;

I don't speak Japanese, so I can't tell if her pronunciation is off. It all sounds lovely to me. :)

I wonder if she feels isolated in Japan? Did she choose to make music in Japan or did her management think she'd sell more records there?

She was originally in a Japanese girl pop trio before branching off on her own so I'm pretty sure she just stuck with what was available to her, as she lived in Japan and attended ... some sort of performers school. XD I forget the name of it.

The school in Okinawa that Namie Amuro attended as well, right? I think it's the Okinawa Actor's School, even though its produced so many singers (strange name).

It's odd that she doesn't seem to have an especially deep connection with Japan. It feels like she's almost forced to be there, which would be sad, as so many fans enjoy her music.

New thread! (finally..I know, I know...I am late -_-)

My Trinka Trinka CD+DVD came today...:D

I already said it in the other thread, but I will say it again for the hell of it. The Lost Lolli and The Cloudy Dreamer are still her best pieces of works, though I still like Trinka. Have to give it a proper listen to now though, I didn't want to download it so I have only heard previews of most songs, Trinka Trinka and Rain so far.

^ I want to see how the Trinka Trinka DVD disc looks like , you mind taking a pic of it ?

Sure, I've taken a few others as well because it was all so pretty :P

Sealed:



CD:



DVD:

^ thanks a lot , the DVD looks really cute & artistic alongside with the CD :cool

I love her! She does some really awesome and creative artwork too. I really love her art style.

lalala :) I already got the answer

I really love OLIVIA but I have to say, sadly I am not impressed by Trinka Trinka. I was really looking forward to this mini-album but I've given it a few listens and it doesn't really give me that "WOAH" feeling. The songs aren't really memorable. I feel bad even admitting this but I really was looking for a great album. Not even one song that I REALLY LOVE to pick it up for me. Lately I have been listening to SpiderSpins, Denial, and her NANA material seeing as it's Halloween and it's just great music for this time of year! I hope she releases soon because this doesn't really satisfy my OLIVIA needs. Ha ha.

yeah Namie also attended it
Too bad D&D didn't do so well after Olivia left the band fell apart

D&D's 8cm singles(except the first and last of them) are still up on CDJapan, I'm totally getting them for Christmas XD

I've only heard one song of D&D's and it was okay I can't remember the name though...

for some reason i liek a couple D&D songs :weep

OLIVIA has a new single "Sailing free"

Awesome news!! Hopefully this time it won't be canceled or anything...

Nice christmas present! I know it won't be released on christmas but you know an announcement of a new release from OLIVIA takes a looong time lol

So happy to hear this! :yes

OMG fantastic , new single release like about 2 years since Wish / Starless Night :dead2

I can't wait to hear Sailing free in due time

yay a new single and also written by INORAN - Cool!!

Woot! Can't wait! :D

she's doing the song to the game that J-A-P (from abs) is used for! awesome, lol. i can't wait!!

Sengoku Basara has two awesome songs! OLIVIA x abs

I don't know why but I keep thinking of Evanescence and that sounds bloody great!