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Luv ~Venus~ 16th October 2008 11:42 PM

The Official Beyoncé Thread
 

Queen B's 1st Thread
http://www.andiwarroll.es/wp-content...1/beyonce5.jpg

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Beyoncé Giselle Knowles (born September 4, 1981) is an American R&B singer-songwriter, record producer, and actress. Knowles rose to fame in the late 1990s as the lead singer of girl group Destiny's Child , the best-selling girl group of all time. After a series of commercial successes with the group, Knowles released her debut solo album, Dangerously in Love, in June 2003 and her sophomore solo album, B'Day, in 2006. The success of her solo albums has established Knowles as one of the most marketable artists in the industry. She has added acting and endorsement deals to her repertoire. In 2006, she starred in the comedy film The Pink Panther, and, in the same year, scored the main role in the film adaptation of the 1981 Broadway musical Dreamgirls, which earned her a Golden Globe nomination. Knowles launched in 2004 her family's fashion line, House of Deréon, and among her many lucrative commercial deals are Pepsi, Tommy Hilfiger, and L'Oréal. Knowles has been with boyfriend Jay-Z since 2002, though they have been discreet about their relationship. After much speculation, they married on April 4, 2008.

I Am... is going to be her third solo studio album and is to be released on November 18, 2008. This is a double disc album, representing herself and on-stage persona, Sasha Fierce. The first disc, I Am... Beyoncé, will feature a predominate classic R&B-jazz sound while Fierce's disc, entitled I Am... Sasha, will have a hip-hop-dance vibe. [4] Knowles also plans to release a DVD of music videos for every track in February 2009, along with a Spanish version of "I Am..."

More Info on Beyonce

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...9/beyonce1.png


Spoiler:

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Tracklist
1. Crazy in Love (featuring Jay-Z)
2. Naughty Girl
3. Baby Boy (featuring Sean Paul)
4. Hip Hop Star
5. Be with You
6. Me, Myself and I
7. Yes
8. Signs
9. Speechless
10. That's How You Like It (featuring Jay-Z)
11. The Closer I Get to You" (duet with Luther Vandross)
12. Dangerously in Love 2
13. Beyoncé Interlude
14. Gift from Virgo
15. Daddy (hidden track)

European and Latin American edition
16. Work It Out
17. '03 Bonnie & Clyde" (Jay-Z featuring Beyoncé)
18. Daddy (hidden track)

French and Belgian edition
13. Bienvenue (IAM featuring Beyoncé)
14. Beyoncé Interlude
15. Work It Out
16. '03 Bonnie & Clyde" (Jay-Z featuring Beyoncé)
17. Daddy (hidden track)

Australian edition
15. Work It Out
16. '03 Bonnie & Clyde (Jay-Z featuring Beyoncé)
17. Crazy in Love (Remix featuring Vanness Wu)
18. Daddy (hidden track)

Japanese edition
15. What's It Gonna Be
16. '03 Bonnie & Clyde
17. Work It Out
18. Daddy (hidden track)

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Tracklist
1. Déjà Vu (Featuring Jay-Z)
2. Get Me Bodied
3. Suga Mama
4. Upgrade U (Featuring Jay-Z)
5. Ring the Alarm
6. Kitty Kat
7. Freakum Dress
8. Green Light
9. Irreplaceable
10. Resentment [hidden tracks "Listen" and "Get Me Bodied (Extended Version)"]

NEW
Spoiler:

I Am...

Tracklist
I Am... Beyonce

1. If I Were a Boy
2. Halo
3. Disappear
4. Broken-Hearted Girl
5. Ave Maria
6. Smash Into You
7. Satellites
8. That's Why You're Beautiful

I Am... Sasha

1. Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)
2. Radio
3. Diva)
4. Sweet Dreams
5. Video Phone
6. Hello
7. Ego
8. Scared of Lonely
9. Why Don't You Love Me?

***WILL BE UPDATED LATER***


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Spoiler:
If I Were A Boy - Beyonce

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwORr1ys-mk

Single Ladies - Sasha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGp1N...eature=related

***WILL BE UPDATED LATER***


http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...9/beyonce2.png
www.en.wikipedia.org/Beyonce
www.beyonceonline.com


bondingo 16th October 2008 11:50 PM

Weird, I was looking for the Beyonce thread last night because I wanted to talk about the new album.

I absolutely love the idea behind it. Concept albums can be amazing, and this one sounds like it will be really great. If I Were A Boy is beautiful and kind of haunting, and Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It) is really catchy. I'm definitely buying I am...

Partino 17th October 2008 12:16 AM

^me to ... IIWAB is such a beautiful ballad ... like Irreplaceble :heart

The idea to release an album like this is pure AWESOMENESS ... you have to
admit that this kind of idea is really unique and I can't wait to hear IIWAB in spanish

good I LOVE IIWAB so much ... the video looked kinda boring at first but the end.
THE END is AMAZING!!!!

CoriKaru 17th October 2008 01:18 AM

This reminds me of the whole T.I. and T.I.P. thing. I got real tired when T.I. did it so I hope Beyonce doesn't over do it with the Split Personality Ordeal.

EDIT: Either way, some nice songs here.

DOLCE 17th October 2008 01:39 AM

Covers for I am...Sasha fierce.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ku/2uh7afp.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ku/2mzy4ch.jpg

They look very 90's. I can't believe she is naming her album "I am...Sasha fierce" though. Is she ****ing serious? :shakehead

http://shoots.beyonceworld.net/thumbnails.php?album=192

Partino 17th October 2008 01:40 AM

Are those real?!?

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoriKaru (Post 1667939)
This reminds me of the whole T.I. and T.I.P. thing. ...

WHO?!?

DOLCE 17th October 2008 01:43 AM

Beyonceworld has been reliable in the past so I think so. I can't tell if your reaction is good or bad :laugh B'day's deluxe cover was so much better :weep

Partino 17th October 2008 01:54 AM

I dunno ... I'm not really convinced. QUEEN-B is a beauty and we all know that, so
there is nothing wrong with the person on the cover :laugh , but the pose on
the "DELUXE" Editon is so so. I dunno. Maybe the'll grow on to me but right now .. :no

I kinda expected more. Color would be nice. 2 PVs in BLACK and WHITE and than this? :shrug

I hope she's not planning to make a statement in doin every PV of this double-album in B/W. :laugh
That would be so not good in many MANY reasons.

Luv ~Venus~ 17th October 2008 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOLCE (Post 1667961)
Covers for I am...Sasha fierce.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ku/2uh7afp.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ku/2mzy4ch.jpg

They look very 90's. I can't believe she is naming her album "I am...Sasha fierce" though. Is she ****ing serious? :shakehead

http://shoots.beyonceworld.net/thumbnails.php?album=192

OMG! Pure Awesomeness! :heart :heart :heart :heart Woot! Siggy time...:laugh

-Anyway-

I thought the original name of the album was I Am...? DDD: She was on BET the other day and I believe she said that it was called I Am... =/ Her videos even said "I Am..." Maybe that's a scan of the promo pic of something like that. Either why I like it and I luff the way she's evolved herself with this album. Both singles are really good but Sasha's song is waaaaaaay better then Beyonce's song. :yes I'm definitely buying this album...but I'm gonna wait till the deluxe version comes out. I don't wanna waste money on the first edition knowing that a Deluxe version is gonna come out. Plus, she's doing a video for every single video which is very creative idea coming from an American artist if you get what I mean. lol

ImpactBreaker 17th October 2008 02:19 AM

Is she catholic?

Luv ~Venus~ 17th October 2008 02:21 AM

^I believe so. :laugh Why do you ask?

ImpactBreaker 17th October 2008 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1667999)
^I believe so. :laugh Why do you ask?

I am... Beyoncé

5. Ave Maria

LOL

Princess Sohee 17th October 2008 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1667999)
^I believe so. :laugh Why do you ask?


Because of the cross above her name.

DOLCE 17th October 2008 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1667986)
OMG! Pure Awesomeness! :heart :heart :heart :heart Woot! Siggy time...:laugh

-Anyway-

I thought the original name of the album was I Am...? DDD: She was on BET the other day and I believe she said that it was called I Am... =/ Her videos even said "I Am..." Maybe that's a scan of the promo pic of something like that. Either why I like it and I luff the way she's evolved herself with this album. Both singles are really good but Sasha's song is waaaaaaay better then Beyonce's song. :yes I'm definitely buying this album...but I'm gonna wait till the deluxe version comes out. I don't wanna waste money on the first edition knowing that a Deluxe version is gonna come out. Plus, she's doing a video for every single video which is very creative idea coming from an American artist if you get what I mean. lol


Do you think she will release the deluxe verison at the same time though? Cause if not she pretty much killed her sales for the first couple weeks..at least with B'day the deluxe version wasn't announced until the original album was out for a few monthes.

I agree that Sasha's song>>>Beyonce's. If I were a Boy sucks

Luv ~Venus~ 17th October 2008 02:55 AM

^Nah I htnk she'll release the deluxe in March or April. lol As you know most American artists wait a few months to release their Deluxe versions (ie Justin released the deluxe version of FS/LS a whole year after the original was released). It's very stupid that american companies do that but guess they do it boost sales.

IMO, If I Were A Boy is a ballad version of Ciara's Like A Boy. I liked how the video started off because B looked so beautiful and the words they were speaking to each other was kinda heart-felt to me. lol But yea Sasha definitely blew B out the water with Single Ladies.

I just hope I Am... Beyonce isn't ballad filled while I Am... Sasha is dance filled. =/ I want it to be a mix because I'm not a fan of listening to the same genre-song-every-track. Mix it a lil you know. lol

Partino 17th October 2008 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 1668002)
I am... Beyoncé

5. Ave Maria

LOL

P!NK did it so why not QUEEN-B??? :laugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1668069)
I just hope I Am... Beyonce isn't ballad filled while I Am... Sasha is dance filled. =/ I want it to be a mix because I'm not a fan of listening to the same genre-song-every-track. Mix it a lil you know. lol

that's the problem I had with Leona's album ... it was just too much heart-breaking ballads on it that
I kind got sick of the album. I keep my fingers crossed. :yes

Luv ~Venus~ 17th October 2008 03:32 AM

^That's one of the main problems I have with American female artists these days. They sing about heartbreak and needing love too much...and it's mostly about the same stuff. It's like, ugh, just because you've had a freak'n bad day...don't make my day bad as well. lol You know, I've never really had a problem with any of Beyonce's ballads tho. Dangerously in Love is her best ballad ever. Ugh, it's so powerful. It makes me wanna cry every time I hear it. :weep

Partino 17th October 2008 03:46 AM

^I think the problem is that THESE songs are the ones the good singers can prove that they can sing.

They can do their UUUHS and AAAHS and scream their lungs out to impress
a bright audience with their voice without being put into a cliche of not being able to sing.

dddaiyamondo 17th October 2008 03:49 AM

Please, she needs to wait at least 5 more years to put out another album. I'm still sick of her ass since "B'Day".

She is so overexposed it's not even funny. Does she really need to do a Spanish EP, a rerelease that's already planned, a video for every single track on both discs and a 100+ city tour? :rolleyes She is someone that people get sick of easily, she needs to tone it down a notch.

bondingo 17th October 2008 03:51 AM

I'm not liking the covers. Why is everything black and white with this release? First the videos and now the covers. I really want some color :(

jbrat2219 17th October 2008 04:03 AM

Aww Why does America always have to do the opposite of everything! Why can't the deluxe version come out FIRST!? :(


I really want to buy this album, but I don't want to wait years down the road to get the most for my money lol

Luv ~Venus~ 17th October 2008 04:21 AM

^Erm, I wouldn't be much of a "deluxe" it was released first. :lmfao Deluxes are released to simply help the album's sales. It's not much different from what Japanese artists do. CD and CD+DVDs are simply released together to get the costumer to buy both versions in order to help the album's sales.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Partino (Post 1668130)
^I think the problem is that THESE songs are the ones the good singers can prove that they can sing.

They can do their UUUHS and AAAHS and scream their lungs out to impress
a bright audience with their voice without being put into a cliche of not being able to sing.

Now that is true. Very True. :yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1668135)
Please, she needs to wait at least 5 more years to put out another album. I'm still sick of her ass since "B'Day".

She is so overexposed it's not even funny. Does she really need to do a Spanish EP, a rerelease that's already planned, a video for every single track on both discs and a 100+ city tour? :rolleyes She is someone that people get sick of easily, she needs to tone it down a notch.

OMG! Why must you say meaning things about Beyowulf? :weep She is pure awesomness like her music. IMO, she's one of the few American artists who I can say never disappoints me when it comes to music. Her first two albums were pure hawtness and I know that I won't be wasting my money buying I Am...

As for her releases, I think her releasing a spanish EP is really neat/nice of her to do something like that bcoz it shows that she's try'n to reach deeper into the Spanish audience by singing in Spanish. Besides, Beyonce really enjoys learning new things about different cultures especially the Hispanic culture. The whole PV for every track is genius okay. Yeah yeah Kuu did the same thing but this is something unheard of in the America (I know you know that. :bchuck). I have no problem with her doing the rerelease because I know to save money and wait to the CD+DVD version comes out and not feel cheated out of money like I was when B'Day Deluxe released. :yes

As for her touring, I never go to her concerts so I don't really care if she tours 10 cities or 100 cities. She's just gonna release it on DVD anyway. So I'll be saving lots of money by buying the DVD instead of attending the concert. :P

And only the haters get sick of her. She's a very hardworking woman who is very dedicated to her work. I admire her a lot. I don't think I'll ever get tired of Queen B. :tipsy

jbrat2219 17th October 2008 04:40 AM

I'll wait for the CD+DVD version, I didn't even know American releases had that outside of "Deluxe" or "Limited" edtions <_<;;; I don't buy much American music xD;..... But I will buy this <3

Partino 17th October 2008 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1668135)
Please, she needs to wait at least 5 more years to put out another album. I'm still sick of her ass since "B'Day".

It has been 2 years since B*Day ... I think that's enough time between 2 albums. Japanese artists don't even wait a whole year.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1668135)
She is so overexposed it's not even funny. Does she really need to do a Spanish EP, a rerelease that's already planned, a video for every single track on both discs and a 100+ city tour? :rolleyes She is someone that people get sick of easily, she needs to tone it down a notch.

She's a hard working singer. Give her at least a lil bit credit for that. .yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondingo (Post 1668137)
I'm not liking the covers. Why is everything black and white with this release? First the videos and now the covers. I really want some color :(

LIKE I said a lil bit COLOR would be nice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 1668161)
Aww Why does America always have to do the opposite of everything! Why can't the deluxe version come out FIRST!?

I'm quoting a famous group here: Money Money Money. Must be funny. In the rich man's world. :laugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1668184)
^Erm, I wouldn't be much of a "deluxe" it was released first. :lmfao Deluxes are released to simply help the album's sales. It's not much different from what Japanese artists do. CD and CD+DVDs are simply released together to get the costumer to buy both versions in order to help the album's sales.

OMG! Why must you say meaning things about Beyowulf? :weep She is pure awesomness like her music. IMO, she's one of the few American artists who I can say never disappoints me when it comes to music. Her first two albums were pure hawtness and I know that I won't be wasting my money buying I Am...

As for her releases, I think her releasing a spanish EP is really neat/nice of her to do something like that bcoz it shows that she's try'n to reach deeper into the Spanish audience by singing in Spanish. Besides, Beyonce really enjoys learning new things about different cultures especially the Hispanic culture. The whole PV for every track is genius okay. Yeah yeah Kuu did the same thing but this is something unheard of in the America (I know you know that. :bchuck). I have no problem with her doing the rerelease because I know to save money and wait to the CD+DVD version comes out and not feel cheated out of money like I was when B'Day Deluxe released. :yes

As for her touring, I never go to her concerts so I don't really care if she tours 10 cities or 100 cities. She's just gonna release it on DVD anyway. So I'll be saving lots of money by buying the DVD instead of attending the concert. :P

And only the haters get sick of her. She's a very hardworking woman who is very dedicated to her work. I admire her a lot. I don't think I'll ever get tired of Queen B. :tipsy

That's the spirit I'm talking about. :yes

CoriKaru 17th October 2008 05:23 AM

By the way. Is anybody else in on the whole "Beyonce is trying to be white" thing? And if so, do you believe all of these Black and White Videos and Black and White Album Covers have anything to do with it?

bondingo 17th October 2008 05:34 AM

I really don't think Beyonce's trying to be white. She likes to straighten her hair, and she seems to have a lighter shade of skin for someone who's black, but I hardly think she's actually trying to be white, or like a white person. I think Beyonce is her own person and her style is just what appeals to her (provided she isn't just told to look that way, which she could be; then it definitely isn't her fault).

Luv ~Venus~ 17th October 2008 05:41 AM

Erm, no. :laugh I don't get that feel'n at all. She's just a very clever, open-minded, intelligent African-American. She's still fiesty and gives that "black girl" attitude. lol

bondingo 17th October 2008 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1668258)
Erm, no. :laugh I don't get that feel'n at all. She's just a very clever, open-minded, intelligent African-American. She's still fiesty and gives that "black girl" attitude. lol

Yeah, that's exactly how I feel. You summed it up better than I did.

CoriKaru 17th October 2008 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1668258)
She's still fiesty and gives that "black girl" attitude. lol

They're more basing it on the way that she looks and how her skin use to look darker and now when you see her in pictures her skin is airbrushed to the point where she looks white. And there's also that Music Video she did with Shakira where they made it difficult to differentiate between the 2, passing off Beyonce as looking like white Shakira and vice versa.

It was actually a big thing in the news media. I'll have to find that side by side comparison and post it.

EDIT: Here it is. In the right picture, where she looks white, that's a wig. She was also criticized for that as well. And although they were claiming it was Beyonce's natural skin tone on the right, an untouched version was later found where she was actually darker in skin tone. Also they altered her nose, which people say they made look more Caucasian. So yeah.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1...87/Beyonce.jpg

Luv ~Venus~ 17th October 2008 06:57 AM

^Beyonce's true skin tone is the one on the right. DDD: Her skin tone is more of light caramel. I believe that she gets airbrushed to a dark color for certain events or whatever. That pic on the left looks like the photographer's camera color settings is set to make the photos come out darker than the normal settings for most cameras.

I really can't explain the darking for her Dangerously In Love except that her skin tone was specifically darkened to give out a 70s theme-like skin tone (???). I didn't explain that right but if you look at photos when she was younger and when she with DC, you can clearly see what her true skin tone is like.

Sundae 17th October 2008 07:15 AM

You can get darker skin when you're in the sun for too long. It's called a tan.

CoriKaru 17th October 2008 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1668327)
^Beyonce's true skin tone is the one on the right. DDD: Her skin tone is more of light caramel. I believe that she gets airbrushed to a dark color for certain events or whatever. That pic on the left looks like the photographer's camera color settings is set to make the photos come out darker than the normal settings for most cameras.

I really can't explain the darking for her Dangerously In Love except that her skin tone was specifically darkened to give out a 70s theme-like skin tone (???). I didn't explain that right but if you look at photos when she was younger and when she with DC, you can clearly see what her true skin tone is like.

This is the Beyonce I'm familiar with:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1...7/Beyonce3.jpg

Luv ~Venus~ 17th October 2008 07:51 AM

^Hmmm, okay. Maybe I was off a little then. But she just seems so much darker than the skin tone I remember seeing her have especially in her B'day cover and DC days.

See:

http://static.taume.com/image/Beyonce-Upgrade-U.jpg

http://mrsgrapevine.com/wp-content/u...hilippines.jpg

Sundae 17th October 2008 07:54 AM

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...inys_child.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...inys-Child.jpg

A couple of picture when she was in DC. I know since I have light brown skin that it has a tendency to change tint. If I haven't been in the sun for a while, I get lighter. But if I stay in the sun constantly my skin gets darker and darker. Our skin gets a tan and we can lose the tan.

dddaiyamondo 17th October 2008 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1668327)
^Beyonce's true skin tone is the one on the right. DDD: Her skin tone is more of light caramel. I believe that she gets airbrushed to a dark color for certain events or whatever. That pic on the left looks like the photographer's camera color settings is set to make the photos come out darker than the normal settings for most cameras.

I really can't explain the darking for her Dangerously In Love except that her skin tone was specifically darkened to give out a 70s theme-like skin tone (???). I didn't explain that right but if you look at photos when she was younger and when she with DC, you can clearly see what her true skin tone is like.

That's not true, remember back in the old days of Destiny's Child when she was pretty much the same shade as the other girls? Cuz I do!:

http://i33.tinypic.com/zlq2hc.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/aktt9w.jpg

But I don't think she's trying to be white now. She's probably trying to be ~Hispanic~. Anybody remember this story?:

Quote:

Ring the alarm! Buttastic Beyonce -- who is up for "Female Artist of the Year" at the VMAs -- tells Latina Magazine, "I'm just jealous that I wasn't born Latina. I wish I had been because the culture is so beautiful." If Beyonce is going to attempt to voice an original thought, perhaps she should write it down and read it first!

Bey may have put her high-heeled foot in her mouth with this one! Somebody let this woman know that appreciating a culture is great, but actually wishing (and perhaps morphing) yourself into it is a little annoying. The sultry singer goes on to say, "I noticed a big difference between speaking to all of the Latino stations and speaking to the pop stations or the other stations. With the Latino stations, there was so much love and everyone is so genuine." Is anyone listening out there? Hola?!
:lmfao

Luv ~Venus~ 17th October 2008 08:05 AM

^I'm sorry but that article seems like it was typed by a hater. :laugh

Sundae 17th October 2008 08:06 AM

^Beyonce and the girl in the back(LaTavia or LaToya) look lighter than Kelly and the girl on the right(LaToya or LaTavia)

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...irl831/des.jpg
Another picture. She's lighter here.

dddaiyamondo 17th October 2008 08:09 AM

^Airbrush. Do you have that CD? I looked at other pictures in the jacket and she looks dark in the others.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1668386)
^I'm sorry but that article seems like it was typed by a hater. :laugh

It was a TMZ article :laugh It's actually quite tame, I was reading others written by black writers and they really ripped Beyonce a new one for that comment.

But Beyonce is definitely going for a race-less image, IMO. She's trying to appeal to white, black and Hispanic audiences, but she just ends up looking really strange. Half the time I mistake her for Mariah Carey, who is African-American and Euro-American, and Shakira, who is Spanish, Italian and Lebanese. But back in the day she actually looked black, because she was targeting African-American listeners. Now I feel like she's lost a lot of that realness.

Luv ~Venus~ 17th October 2008 08:18 AM

^Beyonce has another heritage in her but I forgot. I think it was Native American or something of that sort. =/ Her mom is mixed.

@Sundea: See that's what skin tone I describing as having. lol That pic brings back memories. Btw, LaToya is the one whose by Beyonce and LaTavia is the one by Kelly. :bchuck

CoriKaru 17th October 2008 08:20 AM

It's really a shame how it ended for La Toya and La Tavia. Beyonce's father is just too much.

dddaiyamondo 17th October 2008 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1668403)
^Beyonce has another heritage in her but I forgot. I think it was Native American or something of that sort. =/ Her mom is mixed.

Yeah, her moms is Native American, African American and French. But Beyonce's gotta be at least 3/4 black.

Sundae 17th October 2008 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1668393)
But Beyonce is definitely going for a race-less image, IMO. She's trying to appeal to white, black and Hispanic audiences, but she just ends up looking really strange. Half the time I mistake her for Mariah Carey, who is African-American and Euro-American, and Shakira, who is Spanish, Italian and Lebanese. But back in the day she actually looked black, because she was targeting African-American listeners. Now I feel like she's lost a lot of that realness.

This is what this L'Oreal controversy is really about. The media have this image of what being black is but a lot of us don't look like that. Black people don't come in one shade. Some of us choose to straighten our hair because it's a pain to deal with otherwise. They don't know what being really black is. Some of us go crazy trying to look like what people think we should look like. We change color depending on the amount of sun. A tan. There is no such thing in America as race-less. We have to have a race. Beyonce is Black in America and no amount of airbrushing is going to change that. It's useless.

dddaiyamondo 17th October 2008 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae (Post 1668424)
This is what this L'Oreal controversy is really about. The media have this image of what being black is but a lot of us don't look like that. Black people don't come in one shade. Some of us choose to straighten our hair because it's a pain to deal with otherwise. They don't know what being really black is. Some of us go crazy trying to look like what people think we should look like. We change color depending on the amount of sun. A tan. There is no such thing in America as race-less. We have to have a race. Beyonce is Black in America and no amount of airbrushing is going to change that. It's useless.

LOL, I'm sorry but no black people have platinum blonde hair and bleached skin like Beyonce. Her stans can argue til the cows come home that black people come in all shades (which I'm well aware of) but she has done a lot to look almost Barbie-like. I mean, isn't Solange the one who actually bleached her own baby? Between the lightening creams, the blonde dye and the plastic surgery, Bee is really gunning for this ~racially ambiguous~ image but it's really just alienating a lot of people from her.

fuawas 17th October 2008 12:19 PM

I'm so happy she's going to realease an Spanish Version ^^
hope she sings again in spanish on her Madrid/Barcelona shows

i love both songs they's great, but Single Ladies is better.
can't wait for the realease date ^^

and i read that maybe she'll be nominated in this categories at the Grammy 2009:

Record Of The Year-If I Were A Boy
Song Of The Year-If I Were A Boy
Best female pop Performance-If I Were A Boy
Best R&B Song-Single Ladies
Best Female R&B Performance-Single Ladies
Best Traditional R&B Performance-At Last
Best Pop Collaboration-just stand up
Best Short Fom Music Video-Flaws And All Live
Best Long From Music Video-The Beyonce Experience

jbrat2219 17th October 2008 02:56 PM

Wow I'm all sorts of lost... I never knew there was such contraversy with Beyonce and whether or not she looks black enough... <_<;;; She was always just Beyonce, the talented song-writer/singer to me...

sanzo2011 17th October 2008 03:02 PM

i don't like her two new songs , they 're different to what she did in past , but it'll be great if she can be nominated Grammy , good luck to her .

Sundae 17th October 2008 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1668462)
LOL, I'm sorry but no black people have platinum blonde hair and bleached skin like Beyonce. Her stans can argue til the cows come home that black people come in all shades (which I'm well aware of) but she has done a lot to look almost Barbie-like. I mean, isn't Solange the one who actually bleached her own baby? Between the lightening creams, the blonde dye and the plastic surgery, Bee is really gunning for this ~racially ambiguous~ image but it's really just alienating a lot of people from her.

You just proved my point. Your image of a black person doesn't fit on Beyonce so you concluded she isn't trying to be black. Media would tell you that the ideal Asian has black hair, black eyes, and narrow eyes, but does every Asian look like that? Ayumi has dyed her hair a light brown. Is she trying to attract more white people? No, she just made the choice to dye her hair like that. Look. A black child with natural blond hair.http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o.../blondeboy.jpg

Besides people don't think like that. They don't go 'When Britney Spears had brown hair she was okay but now that she has blond hair I like her a lot more' Unless they're racist. Mary J Blige dyed her hair blond and she isn't trying to attract whites. Bee only alienates the narrow minded people who won't let go of what black beauty is supposed to be. What does that say about a person who looks down on others who don't look like what they are 'supposed' to look like?

dddaiyamondo 17th October 2008 08:48 PM

^The funny thing is that 90% of the people giving Beyonce flack are black people who feel offended by the fact that she is going for a blonde hair, light skinned image. You can post pictures of those kids who have naturally blonde hair (but mind you they only number in the thousands in the entire world) but it's not going to stop the controversy. Obviously with the strange quotes about how she wishes she was born ~Hispanic~, her plastic surgeries on her nose, her skin bleaching and her hair dying, the girl is definitely is trying to change her image on a racial level.

Re:★ 17th October 2008 09:20 PM

^ I agree! Beyonce looks pretty whatever shade she's in. It's very saddening people feel the need to bleach their skin though. :(

Anyway, the I Am covers look cheap and hideous. Change them, quick!

dddaiyamondo 17th October 2008 09:33 PM

^Yeah, I hate the covers. They look so 90s, but not in a good way. They give me a serious "janet." vibe.

sibby 19th October 2008 09:33 AM

i just cant wait to see them selling @_@ hoho i love beyonce :3

fuawas 19th October 2008 04:42 PM

she's in the cover of InStyle:

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2...2nhekt1.th.jpghttp://img219.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif

the scans:
http://www.beyoncenow.net/fotos/albu...er2008/006.jpg
http://www.beyoncenow.net/fotos/albu...er2008/001.jpg
http://www.beyoncenow.net/fotos/albu...er2008/002.jpg
http://www.beyoncenow.net/fotos/albu...er2008/004.jpg
http://www.beyoncenow.net/fotos/albu...er2008/003.jpg
http://www.beyoncenow.net/fotos/albu...er2008/005.jpg

jbrat2219 19th October 2008 09:58 PM

Gosh I love her outfits in this shoot! I know I can't afford it but I'm curious about who designed them and where they can be purchased.... you know, in case I win the lottery hahaha

Re:★ 19th October 2008 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ian_ayumi (Post 1670648)

Awkward. :/

Luv ~Venus~ 20th October 2008 03:38 AM

^Hater please make an exit! :bchuck

OMG! Those scans are hot. :heart My fave pic is the one with the blue dress. It's so cute. :luv2 Oh, how I wish I could own those outfits she's wearing. :weep

Anyway, Single Ladies is stuck in my head. I did a lil bit of the dance with my friend earlier today. XD I definitely can't wait til the deluxe comes out.

jbrat2219 20th October 2008 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1671077)
^Hater please make an exit! :bchuck

OMG! Those scans are hot. :heart My fave pic is the one with the blue dress. It's so cute. :luv2 Oh, how I wish I could own those outfits she's wearing. :weep

Anyway, Single Ladies is stuck in my head. I did a lil bit of the dance with my friend earlier today. XD I definitely can't wait til the deluxe comes out.

The blue outfit is my favorite too! :love

AyUta 20th October 2008 06:34 AM

I actually liked 'If I were a Boy' :yes 'Single Ladies' was alright.

dddaiyamondo 20th October 2008 07:34 AM

That whole shoot is a big NO. What are them brows?

Kingdom 20th October 2008 10:33 AM

the brows are bad imo. love u girl, but no.

jbrat2219 20th October 2008 02:54 PM

I dunno, I love her eyebrows.... probably because I don't have much of em... I'm quite envious of hers D:

AyUta 21st October 2008 12:40 AM

Lol she looks manly in these shoots. :no

Kaiouforever 22nd October 2008 05:03 AM

She looks very regal...I like it!

Sundae 22nd October 2008 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1671279)
That whole shoot is a big NO. What are them brows?

It might have something to do with Etta James. She has some distinct brows. Epecially at the beginning of her music career.

CoriKaru 22nd October 2008 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 1671564)
I dunno, I love her eyebrows.... probably because I don't have much of em... I'm quite envious of hers D:

They're just painted on eyebrows. They're fake. So you can have them too when you're older.

But yeah, some of the pictures look good and some don't (mostly the close ups).

fuawas 22nd October 2008 08:35 PM

Two new pics:

http://www.beyoncenow.net/fotos/albu...ttakes/003.jpg
http://www.beyoncenow.net/fotos/albu...ttakes/001.jpg

And If I Were A Boy's #2 on iTunes USA and Canada and #1 on iTunes Sweden.

The Normal Edition cover in HQ:
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8319/01gl2.th.jpghttp://img367.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif

dddaiyamondo 23rd October 2008 03:26 AM

Seriously, wat da hale? She looks a mess! Oh, Bee. But finally I'm starting to not hate "If I Were A Boy"! :D Still, I hope it doesn't knock off "Womanizer" from the top of iTunes anytime soon.

Kaiouforever 23rd October 2008 05:17 AM

I think those pictures are great, she looks beautiful. =D

Vinylfantasy 23rd October 2008 06:01 AM

I love "If I Were A Boy" but I'm still not sold on "Single Ladies." I think I just need to listen to it more.

dddaiyamondo 23rd October 2008 06:04 AM

"Single Ladies" is a mess, it's her whole "Crazy In Love" style rehashed but much less interestingly. Also, "If I Were a Boy" is #1 on iTunes.

jbrat2219 23rd October 2008 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1674597)
Seriously, wat da hale? She looks a mess! .

My gosh! If that's a mess, I'm a train wreck because she is gorgeous... I love the blue dress the most :luv2

Luv ~Venus~ 23rd October 2008 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1674735)
"Single Ladies" is a mess, it's her whole "Crazy In Love" style rehashed but much less interestingly. Also, "If I Were a Boy" is #1 on iTunes.

Hi hater! :shihi

SL is hawtness okay. :heart How can you guys like Womanizer but not Single Ladies? :grumpy The song is just as catchy as Love Lockdown by my boo Kanye. :luv2 And it seems like you spoke too soon about her not kick'n Brit out the top spot. :bchuck

bondingo 23rd October 2008 07:20 AM

I like Single Ladies, but I don't think it's anywhere near as amazing as Womanizer. It is better than Love Lockdown though, but then again I don't even like Kanye.

dddaiyamondo 23rd October 2008 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1674782)
Hi hater! :shihi

SL is hawtness okay. :heart How can you guys like Womanizer but not Single Ladies? :grumpy The song is just as catchy as Love Lockdown by my boo Kanye. :luv2 And it seems like you spoke too soon about her not kick'n Brit out the top spot. :bchuck

LOL maybe because "Love Lockdown" is terrible :innocent Sorry, but when compared to the latest singles of other American divas ("Just Dance", "Disturbia", "Womanizer", "Hot N Cold" and even J-Hud's single "Spotlight"), "Single Ladies" is very mediocre.

Luv ~Venus~ 23rd October 2008 09:51 AM

OMG! HDU insult Love Lockdown??? :gun It's so heep 'n kewl to listen to! :cry Why no luff for my baby Kanye? :weep

And seriously, Single Ladies is way better then Just Dance and the horrid/overrated Disturbia. :irked I'll give it to J-Hud that Spotlight is hawtness...but Single Ladies is just as hawt. :heart I haven't heard Hot 'n Cold yet but I doubt that it's bettah then Single Ladies.

Out of the the two songs, I'd say that "If I Were a Boy" is the mediocre track. =/ It's good but it sounds like a lame Irreplaceble remake/Like A Boy rip-off.

dddaiyamondo 23rd October 2008 11:13 AM

^"Like A Boy" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "If I Were A Boy", omg.

Keiichi_JPU 23rd October 2008 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1674597)
Seriously, wat da hale? She looks a mess! Oh, Bee. But finally I'm starting to not hate "If I Were A Boy"! :D Still, I hope it doesn't knock off "Womanizer" from the top of iTunes anytime soon.

I'm sorry to say this, but what are you doing here? I'm not at all a Beyoncé fan myself, but even I don't come here to bash her or something.

Oh and I love the pics! absolutely stunning O.o Haven't heard If I were a Boy and Single ladies yet, but I'm about to ^__^

CoriKaru 23rd October 2008 01:48 PM

Those new pictures actually do look good.

fuawas 23rd October 2008 03:43 PM

Beyoncé is now #1 on iTunes USA and Canada!
And "I'm... Sasha Fierce..." is #5 just with the preorders ^^

A video of her talkin' about If I Were A Boy and Single Ladies in the studio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7yY-E2XdWs

jbrat2219 23rd October 2008 06:57 PM

^ Woah! Congradulations Beyonce! That's one more album I need to buy T_T.... I'm spending so much money on music for myself, I may not be able to afford Christmas presents hahaha

Re:★ 23rd October 2008 07:28 PM

Okay so I've just seen the tracklist for I Am Sasha Fierce and it's utter bull. Like, wth? Disc 1 has 6 tracks and disc 2 has 5...?

Sasha Fierce is an embaressing name for an album, sorry.

fuawas 23rd October 2008 07:36 PM

^That's the normal edition
The Deluxe Edition's Disc 1 has 8 songs and Disc 2 8 too.

dddaiyamondo 24th October 2008 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keiichi_JPU (Post 1675038)
I'm sorry to say this, but what are you doing here? I'm not at all a Beyoncé fan myself, but even I don't come here to bash her or something.

Just because a fan isn't jumping for joy over every single thing an artist does doesn't mean they can't post. :o I think she's making some major mistakes with this album ("Single Ladies" is a mess, the album covers are heinous, the alter ego shtick is annoying), but I definitely like "If I Were A Boy" and its PV.

Re:★ 25th October 2008 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1675727)
Just because a fan isn't jumping for joy over every single thing an artist does doesn't mean they can't post. :o I think she's making some major mistakes with this album ("Single Ladies" is a mess, the album covers are heinous, the alter ego shtick is annoying), but I definitely like "If I Were A Boy" and its PV.

QFT.

:B

Neo Daydream 25th October 2008 04:44 AM

ugh. we need to change the title of this thread to "Sasha Fierce" or she will come up in here and rip us a new one...

Keiichi_JPU 26th October 2008 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1675727)
Just because a fan isn't jumping for joy over every single thing an artist does doesn't mean they can't post. :o I think she's making some major mistakes with this album ("Single Ladies" is a mess, the album covers are heinous, the alter ego shtick is annoying), but I definitely like "If I Were A Boy" and its PV.

ok :) I take my words back then sorry.

and I completely agree with you about single ladies.

Luv ~Venus~ 27th October 2008 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Neo Daydream (Post 1677097)
ugh. we need to change the title of this thread to "Sasha Fierce" or she will come up in here and rip us a new one...

:laugh

Ikr! I'm still gon call her ass Beyonce. :rolleyes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keiichi_JPU (Post 1678794)
ok :) I take my words back then sorry.

and I completely agree with you about single ladies.

Single Ladies is not terrible. It's hawt stuff okay. Don't agree with him Keiichi. He's just being a bully. :weep

Richieooxx 27th October 2008 03:33 AM

so wait....
Is there Trannys in the video Single Ladies?

hightea_xx 27th October 2008 05:26 AM

i love love love if i were a boy. i think it's possibly the best song she's ever done in that style... sooo moving.

AyUta 27th October 2008 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo Daydream (Post 1677097)
ugh. we need to change the title of this thread to "Sasha Fierce" or she will come up in here and rip us a new one...


Oh? So THAT"S what she was changing her name to. Is it official? Is she really going to do it? o_o

Luv ~Venus~ 27th October 2008 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sunday ♥ (Post 1679469)
so wait....
Is there Trannys in the video Single Ladies?

huh? O_o

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyUta (Post 1679655)

Oh? So THAT"S what she was changing her name to. Is it official? Is she really going to do it? o_o

:bchuck

I think she wants us to call her that doing the I Am.... Sasha Fierce promotion. I'm still calling her Beyonce because it's so much catchier plus everyone knows her by that name.

AyUta 27th October 2008 06:48 AM

I see :dead2 I overheard a couple of students at school the other day during class saying that Beyonce was suposedly changing her name for good. I was like, what?! :laugh Forget that though, I'm still calling her Beyonce :irked

Luv ~Venus~ 27th October 2008 07:00 AM

^:laugh My roommate was mad and was like, "Umm. Until it says Sasha Fierce on her motha-******' birth certificate, I'm call her ass Beyonce." She had me crack'n up the whole time.

dddaiyamondo 27th October 2008 07:12 AM

^LOL. I agree. ***** done lost her mind!

Re:★ 28th October 2008 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sunday ♥ (Post 1679469)
so wait....
Is there Trannys in the video Single Ladies?

Yes, three of them.

dddaiyamondo 28th October 2008 11:24 AM

^:laugh

fuawas 31st October 2008 11:41 PM

Beyoncé at Music Station singing 'If I Were a Boy'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvoyAyijv-M

the sound quality isn't very good.

CoriKaru 2nd November 2008 02:47 AM

Speaking of Beyonce losing her mind, "Lost Your Mind" is actually a song of hers that I only heard on the radio once and never again. I've never heard anybody talk about it in person or on television or anything and it's not on any album. Was this like a poorly received song or something. Do you people even know about it?

Also at the end of this video clip Beyonce dances along to her new Ring Song:



Also, Beyonce to be on Saturday Night Live November 15th.

Sundae 2nd November 2008 06:32 AM

Lost Yo Mind is on the Itunes preorder bonus of B'day.

Sweet that they support each other, but I can't figure out how he feels about it. Wearing the hat over his eyes and all.

Temari_2 3rd November 2008 03:35 AM

^

It was hard to tell because it looked like he was mad but he probably wasn't. Here is an interview with Beyonce and Solange in Japan, the second half of the interview was funny.

http://www.youtube.com/v/hyJkNl_6r8o&hl

Luv ~Venus~ 3rd November 2008 04:09 AM

^ROFL x 4

Naomi = :heart She was do'n her thang. XD Beyonce was too surprised that an asian could do that that. lol Lulz at her for try'n to speak ingles. Japanese comedy = :lmfao


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