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MemorialAddress 8th December 2008 09:14 AM

Emilie Autumn?
 

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That is the mystical being whom goes by the name Emilie Autumn.
Apparently she's a singer / songwriter, but who really knows.
She was born in Malibu, California so DAYUM, she totally didn't choose to go down the Barbie path in life!
She currently has 6 studio albums. Way to go Emilie!
I assume that her latest release is: Girls Just Wanna Have Fun /Bohemian Rhapsody EP but, one can never be too sure!

Discuss, Emilie fan(s) of the AHS Kingdom!
:spazzed


drewbilation 8th December 2008 09:16 AM

wow, her make-up is so gorge and classy! she seems like a totally typical and normal artiste!

Amrai-chan 8th December 2008 10:49 AM

I like some of her songs but don't listen to her that often. Though that's happened before and then I suddenly get an urge to keep listening. It hasn't happed with her - yet. But she's alright.

CaseNumber:825 8th December 2008 11:25 AM

Someone made a thread before me teehee



My God the woman is AMAZING!

I've seen her twice now (both times in London), once in April ('08) and then again in October ('08) and I have to say both times left me in awe, you've never seen anything quite like it.


And you say 'Singer/Songwriter'
I believe you've forgotten some things she does....
such as:
Musician (she plays the Violin, Viola, Viola de Gamba - not that I know what that is -, Guitar, Piano & Harpsichord)
Poet
Writer

Plus she designs her own clothing as well.



Can you tell just how obsessed I am with this woman. I'm listening to her now..... :D:D:D

~ayu-cake~ 8th December 2008 07:30 PM

She's friggin' gorgeous *___*

drewbilation 8th December 2008 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Amrai-chan (Post 1732878)
I like some of her songs but don't listen to her that often. Though that's happened before and then I suddenly get an urge to keep listening. It hasn't happed with her - yet. But she's alright.

well, tbh all of her songs sound very similar, so once you've heard, for instance, "Hollow Like My Soul" something like "Dead Is The New Alive" or "The Art Of Suicide" doesn't have as much of an impact. at least she uses that totally unique harpsichord very minimally, so there is a lot of variation in the instruments!

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Originally Posted by CaseNumber:825 (Post 1732901)
And you say 'Singer/Songwriter'
I believe you've forgotten some things she does....
such as:
Musician (she plays the Violin, Viola, Viola de Gamba - not that I know what that is -, Guitar, Piano & Harpsichord)
Poet
Writer

Plus she designs her own clothing as well.

wow, Emily sure sounds like a jack of all trades! but you know what they say about them: master of none. =(

micster 8th December 2008 10:32 PM

Know of her - She's hawt but the music ive heard from her didnt sit right with me for some reason

MemorialAddress 8th December 2008 10:43 PM



Okay. . .I just watched about 40 seconds of this performance, and if I was to be COMPLETELY honest, I would have to say: that was horrendous. :no

bondingo 8th December 2008 10:46 PM

That, is what all the fuss was about? Wow, that wasn't good at all. It looks like she's trying to be her own version of ALI PROJECT, but failing because she can't actually sing.

drewbilation 8th December 2008 10:50 PM

wow, she looks like Lacey from Rock of Love mixed with some Harajuku girl in that perf. so unique!

MemorialAddress 8th December 2008 10:52 PM

You know, I think if Emilie sang normal music, her voice might actually sound decent! :)

CaseNumber:825 8th December 2008 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ~ayu-cake~ (Post 1733299)
She's friggin' gorgeous *___*

Isn't she just....... and that isn't even the best picture of her

In fact I couldn't even choose a best picture...... I have too many to choose from......


Her best pictures in general are her live ones.... because thats Emilie in her element




Not only is she gorgeous physically, but everything she produces is equally as gorgeous.




And now I feel I should actually stand up for her..... because clearly a lot of you happen to like putting her down.
First things first..... if she sang 'normal' music?

Why, pray tell, should she sing music, that she clearly doesn't WANT to create just to please other people?

Emilie Autumn - What If
^^^^
are you trying to tell me that what you are hearing there is NOT a good voice?

The woman's range is outstanding, and she uses it a lot better than most of the wailing screeching diva's we have in the mainstream world today, I'm talking your typical Mariah Carey, Leona Lewis and Christina Aguilera

Other examples:
Castle Down
By The Sword
Marry Me
4 O'Clock
God Help Me


Need I go on

Secondly.... someone mentioned something about being a 'jack-of-all-trades' and then her being a 'master of none'
Excuse me... but.... wrong:

Leech Jar
Revelry

Both instrumentals and both entirely composed and recorded by her..... no one else did anything on those tracks... everything you can hear there (and on everything else she releases) is done entirely by her.


And honestly.... you've heard, like, what? One live performance from her?

Watch these and then tell me she can't sing:
God Help Me (Live) (not the best quality but it's alright)
Gloomy Sunday (Live acapella) (In a bathtub.... how fun)

Although... none of you will ever have the full effect of her voice because... let's face it... none of you have seen her live

I'm not even going to into the ALI PROJECT comparison..... since they are barely similar (plus Emilie is several thousand times more talented... and this is coming from a fan of ALI PROJECT)

Adrian20 8th December 2008 11:01 PM

@ Memorial : But you made her a thread!

I'm confussed... you like her or you don't? xD

Amrai-chan 8th December 2008 11:04 PM

Wow. That performance wasn't good. :no It sounds like she's trying to yell parts the shouldn't be yelled.

Of coruse this is only one proformence so I'd have to see others before I am able to say she can't sing.

MemorialAddress 8th December 2008 11:05 PM

Oh I don't like her, Adrian LOL :laugh
I only made the thread just in case anyone else likes her!


I wonder how her skin seems to look decent!
She wears sooooooooooooo much makeup, you would think her face would be full of sick looking spots!

drewbilation 8th December 2008 11:07 PM

OMG. I am shocked at you, Memorial! I think I'm the only TRUE fan Emily has on here!!!

MemorialAddress 8th December 2008 11:23 PM

Ohhh, drew. I'm shocked too! I thought we had the same music taste, I guess I was wrong! :weep

stickyrice 8th December 2008 11:31 PM

So I looked up some of her songs on youtube. They're interesting. Some are actually pretty good but her voice can be a little irritating at times. She's great to listen to when I feel corrupted in the mind though =D

CaseNumber:825 8th December 2008 11:49 PM

I edited my post before.... just to give people more insight into the wonderful world of Emilie Autumn

mi|kshake 8th December 2008 11:53 PM

Not sure if I'd be keen on her heavier music but I d/led Rapunzel and really liked it. Though I think I might have to adjsut to her voice.

mi|kshake~

drewbilation 9th December 2008 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MemorialAddress08 (Post 1733519)
Ohhh, drew. I'm shocked too! I thought we had the same music taste, I guess I was wrong! :weep

it's possible that I can like artists that are complete opposites of each other, you know!

MemorialAddress 9th December 2008 12:09 AM

Well, I really did watch those 2 other live performances you linked, and I can still safely say that she just doesn't sound good to me :no
The little droaning and moaning on thing she has going on just does not appeal to me.

bondingo 9th December 2008 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CaseNumber:825 (Post 1733478)

Now that's a total ripoff of Tori Amos' Silent All These Years if I've ever heard one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaseNumber:825 (Post 1733478)
are you trying to tell me that what you are hearing there is NOT a good voice?

Yes, that is exactly what I'm trying to tell you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaseNumber:825 (Post 1733478)
The woman's range is outstanding, and she uses it a lot better than most of the wailing screeching diva's we have in the mainstream world today, I'm talking your typical Mariah Carey, Leona Lewis and Christina Aguilera

Are you delusional? I seriously think you are.

Re:★ 9th December 2008 12:13 AM

Oh my.

CaseNumber:825 9th December 2008 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondingo (Post 1733569)
Are you delusional? I seriously think you are.

Are you?


What If is no where near a rip-off of Tori Amos's song (yes I've heard it)

The lyrics are completely different.... did you only mention it because both songs say 'what if' in the chorus.
The tune is completely different as well. In fact the only thing they have in common there is the fact that there's a piano involved.
What If is a song full of irony.... the lyrics are genius and they make you think, her voice is stunning.
It is powerful, unique, interesting and completely unedited.




The simple fact is... is that the woman is talented... more talented than the majority of the music industry today.
Her vocals range to downright bizarre and extraordinarily beautiful. she can go from screaming at you in one moment and lulling you to sleep in the next.

What other artist can do that?


It seems to me that you people just don't want to like her and so you won't give her a chance.
Perhaps if you were a little more open-minded to her music......

bondingo 9th December 2008 12:48 AM

^ :laugh

I'll try and disregard the fact that you clearly know absolutely nothing about the technical aspects of music. That was made blatantly obvious when you said Emilie had a better range than Mariah, etc. Do you even know what an octave is? And don't answer that after you look it up on Wikipedia. Just know that Mariah can sing in about four more of them than Emilie.

I listened to Emilie's music. I previewed her entire Opheliac album on iTunes and watched multiple live performances on Youtube, but just didn't see what's great or even original about her. To me she sounds like every other Hot Topic, Nightwish-wannabe out there. You have to accept that not everyone is going to love her, and that they aren't close-minded simply because they don't enjoy her music or see her talent.

Btw...

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaseNumber:825 (Post 1733598)
What other artist can do that?

Björk, to name one of many.

CaseNumber:825 9th December 2008 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondingo (Post 1733615)
^ :laugh

I'll try and disregard the fact that you clearly know absolutely nothing about the technical aspects of music. That was made blatantly obvious when you said Emilie had a better range than Mariah, etc. Do you even know what an octave is? And don't answer that after you look it up on Wikipedia. Just know that Mariah can sing in about four more of them than Emilie.

I listened to Emilie's music. I previewed her entire Opheliac album on iTunes and watched multiple live performances on Youtube, but just didn't see what's great or even original about her. To me she sounds like every other Hot Topic, Nightwish-wannabe out there. You have to accept that not everyone is going to love her, and that they aren't close-minded simply because they don't enjoy her music or see her talent.

Btw...



Björk, to name one of many.

First of all I didn't say she had a better range than Mariah, I just said she uses her range better... she doesn't have to start wailing in the middle of the song to prove that she can sing in a higher register.... so I'll disregard everything in that paragraph

Secondly..... well you're just..... wrong... to put it simply
You are trying to tell me that a woman who can play at least 6 different instruments amazingly well, who can composes entirely original songs and who writes every single songs she brings out isn't talented?

There is something wrong with that statement!

I don't care that you don't love her.... it's not the fact that you don't love her that's annoying me... it's the fact that you are completely disregarding the fact that she's talented.... and yes it is a fact.

I also said if you were open-minded to her music. I can tell that you've gone into her music with a negative mind and from that you aren't going to like it.

And yes, okay, Björk is great.... I know this, I've like her since I was 4 years old.

And where the hell did you get Nightwish from.... now they really don't sound anything alike...... seriously..... what.... the ..... hell

I think you are just about the only person I've met who can seriously sit there and tell me that Emilie isn't talented.


And you're still wrong.....

bondingo 9th December 2008 01:14 AM

Talent isn't a fact, hun. And you might wanna reread my posts before saying I ever said she didn't have talent. I said I don't think she has a good voice and that I don't like her music. Not once did I say that I personally think she has no talent.

And I'm wrong because I disagree with you? Why do so many people on this board live by that standard?

CaseNumber:825 9th December 2008 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondingo (Post 1733639)
Talent isn't a fact, hun. And you might wanna reread my posts before saying I ever said she didn't have talent. I said I don't think she has a good voice and that I don't like her music. Not once did I say that I personally think she has no talent.

And I'm wrong because I disagree with you? Why do so many people on this board live by that standard?


The fact that you didn't ONCE mention that she had any talent and focussed only on what you didn't like kind of made it seem as though you didn't think she had any talent.


I still don't believe you can truly understand the beauty of what she is singing and how she is singing it until you have seen it for yourself, live on stage... just Emilie and her Bloody Crumpets.

Amrai-chan 9th December 2008 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondingo (Post 1733569)
Now that's a total ripoff of Tori Amos' Silent All These Years if I've ever heard one.

Indeed it is similar.

Also regarding Emilie's singing...

Live it seems her voice is lackluster and flat (that doesn't fully describe it but I can't think of any other words right now). Granted, for some music that works but for her I'd have to say it doesn't.

Excluding her vocals her music it reminds me of Switchblade Symphony and Rasputina.

Though she does seem to be a creative person.

Through Lives can bring a whole different side to the artists because of costumes, interaction with the audiance and so on. Some are even known for thier live shows.

It makes me wonder what her live shows are like...

MemorialAddress 9th December 2008 01:53 AM

Bloody Crumpets? LMAO!

MD-Kiryu 9th December 2008 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amrai-chan (Post 1733665)
Live it seems her voice is lackluster and flat (that doesn't fully describe it but I can't think of any other words right now). Granted, for some music that works but for her I'd have to say it doesn't.

Lackluster and flat? Uhhhh......no. After attending two live shows, I can tell you without any doubt that this is not the case. In fact her voice sounds just as good as - sometimes better - than it does on the studio versions of her songs. (And no this isn't just rantings of a fan, I'm usually very critical even of things I like)

The main reason for this will be the equipment her live performances are recorded with, i.e. fans' phones or cheap video cameras. Emilie doesn't have the luxury of expensive film crews for her shows, so the only live videos you're going to find anywhere will have been recorded by audience members. As a music fan yourself, I don't have to tell you just how much this can screw with the audio quality.

If you really want to pass judgement on her live singing ability, I'd wait until her first Live DVD comes out next year.

As a sidenote, you wonder what her live shows are like in general? I think you'll find they're something like this...

Adrian20 9th December 2008 02:11 AM

Alright that's it. I'm closing this thread.

This woman has brought too much confusion, arguments, anger, conflict, fights, existencial doubts if you will... next thing you know riots. People calling each other names...

IF we continue there will be no talking about Politics, Religion & Emilie Autumn in AHS.

Spoiler:
Alright I'm not a MOD I can't close this thread :P


this is all Chelsea Ryan from Facebook's fault tho... for opening this thread.

MemorialAddress 9th December 2008 04:37 AM

HEY!
I was just trying to broaden the children of AHS' horizons to new musical genres! :weep
I haven't been rude about Emilie. All I've been is honest :)

Lee_410 9th December 2008 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MemorialAddress08 (Post 1733669)
Bloody Crumpets? LMAO!

I totally got this joke Chelsea,you're hilarious!

~ayu-cake~ 9th December 2008 06:54 PM

Wow, well this thread is coming to an end already.

MD-Kiryu 9th December 2008 09:11 PM

Closing the thread? That seems a bit much. As has been pointed out, it was only so recently created.

I do however have a message for all those who have posted here, or those who would like to - this should be a place to appreciate the works of this artist, not to critisize them. If you are not a fan of Emilie Autumn and do not have anything complimentary to say, then do not say anything at all.

The thing that irritates fans of something more than anything on a forum is someone making a post that's only intent is to show dislike for the subject matter. This has been shown clearly here. It would be a shame if fans of Emilie do not have a place to discuss her on AHS, and it should not be due to the faults of a few tactless posters that true fans should lose this oppurtunity to discuss their favourite artist.

To repeat my earlier statement, this should be a place to appreciate her work, not bad-mouth it.

I hope that this will help people to see sense and stop acting so immature, on both sides of the argument.

Amrai-chan 9th December 2008 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MD-Kiryu (Post 1733674)

The main reason for this will be the equipment her live performances are recorded with, i.e. fans' phones or cheap video cameras. Emilie doesn't have the luxury of expensive film crews for her shows, so the only live videos you're going to find anywhere will have been recorded by audience members. As a music fan yourself, I don't have to tell you just how much this can screw with the audio quality.

If you really want to pass judgement on her live singing ability, I'd wait until her first Live DVD comes out next year.

Very true.

I was thinking of trying to find a way to go to a live show of hers. If theres a live DVD next year I just may purchase that and go to a live show. It seems interesting...Thanks for posting a photo.

MemorialAddress 9th December 2008 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MD-Kiryu (Post 1733674)
Lackluster and flat? Uhhhh......no. After attending two live shows, I can tell you without any doubt that this is not the case. In fact her voice sounds just as good as - sometimes better - than it does on the studio versions of her songs. (And no this isn't just rantings of a fan, I'm usually very critical even of things I like)

The main reason for this will be the equipment her live performances are recorded with, i.e. fans' phones or cheap video cameras. Emilie doesn't have the luxury of expensive film crews for her shows, so the only live videos you're going to find anywhere will have been recorded by audience members. As a music fan yourself, I don't have to tell you just how much this can screw with the audio quality.

If you really want to pass judgement on her live singing ability, I'd wait until her first Live DVD comes out next year.

As a sidenote, you wonder what her live shows are like in general? I think you'll find they're something like this...

Are you just a CaseNumber troll account? Or maybe you're her friend and she just asked you to back her up :shrug
Either way, that doesn't change the fact that not eveyone in this world has to agree with you that this Emilie person has a good voice / talent.
Opinions vary from person to person, there's nothing you can do about it lol

MD-Kiryu 10th December 2008 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MemorialAddress08 (Post 1734846)
Are you just a CaseNumber troll account? Or maybe you're her friend and she just asked you to back her up :shrug
Either way, that doesn't change the fact that not eveyone in this world has to agree with you that this Emilie person has a good voice / talent.
Opinions vary from person to person, there's nothing you can do about it lol

Firstly, no I am not a troll account and secondly, I never said I didn't accept that people won't agree with me.

I am trying to diffuse all of the tension here, and posts like yours are not helping. I perfectly accept that people may not like her, and that's fine - all I was saying is that if people do not like her music, why are they posting on a thread dedicated to her?

That would be like walking into a church and declaring you don't believe in god - if it's not relavent to you, why bother doing it? All this will do is start arguments with Emilie's dedicated fans and lead to childish mud-slinging.

Yes, I am a huge Emilie Autumn fan, but of course I accept that she will not be liked by everyone. My earlier post was just to point out that the sort of videos one will find on sites like youtube will not give a fair representation of her voice.

This should be a place for fans to appreciate her music, not for people to be immature and start arguments.

MemorialAddress 11th December 2008 12:02 AM

Ummm wow, you are way out of control.
You act as if I posted this thread with an opening post declaring my love for Emilie.
All I did was create a thread for her, just in case anyone here liked her. That doesn't mean that I have to like her.
You should be thankful that I even made this thread, because I highly doubt anyone else would ever make one.
And "This should be a place for fans to appreciate her music, not for people to be immature and start arguments"? Give me a break!
There is no rule that says that we're only allowed to post nice, supportive things about an artist in their thread.
So if I don't like her, I'm certainly allowed to express that. And besides, it's not like I've said anything rude about her.

I've merely stated my opinions. :)

MD-Kiryu 11th December 2008 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MemorialAddress08 (Post 1736376)
Ummm wow, you are way out of control.
You act as if I posted this thread with an opening post declaring my love for Emilie.
All I did was create a thread for her, just in case anyone here liked her. That doesn't mean that I have to like her.
You should be thankful that I even made this thread, because I highly doubt anyone else would ever make one.
And "This should be a place for fans to appreciate her music, not for people to be immature and start arguments"? Give me a break!
There is no rule that says that we're only allowed to post nice, supportive things about an artist in their thread.
So if I don't like her, I'm certainly allowed to express that. And besides, it's not like I've said anything rude about her.

Ummm....did you actually read what I said? You have repeated your point that there is nothing saying you have to like her, and I AGREED with you. As I have already said, I understand completely that she won't be everybody's cup of tea. And no, I don't expect people to only post to sing her praises, you do not have to take everything that is said so personally.

I am not here to attack anyone for anything, I am merely trying to stop this thread, which should be about the music of an artist, from turning into a foolish argument about nothing much at all.

Lastly, I did not for one minute believe you created this thread out of love for Emilie. You made it quite clear that you were not a fan, and I thank you for being the one to start the thread. Now can we please all just stop arguing over pathetically irrelavent things and perhaps move back to discussion about Emilie? Seeing as, in my view at least, that is the purpose of this thread.

CaseNumber:825 11th December 2008 01:17 AM

Wait.... you're trying to tell me you haven't been rude

"I think if Emilie sang normal music, her voice might actually sound decent!"


I'm sorry if you don't agree, but that is defined as rude to me.
The fact that you are attempting to define what is and what isn't normal is considered rude.
You've basically just stated that she is not normal and therefore that makes her bad.
Besides which, she does not make her music for you. She doesn't make her music for me either. She doesn't make her music for anyone other herself and that's how it should be. She's true to herself and that's one of the many many reason why I like her as much as I do.


Plus... you didn't have to make this thread, especially if you didn't truly know/like the artist. The simple fact is I was quite happy with having no thread for her on this forum. I couldn't care less whether anyone else would've made one or not, because I know that there aren't many fans on this board and from the looks of it there also aren't many people on this board who can appreciate the music she create's. I wasn't ever planning to make a thread for her, so why should you have bothered?



Plus.....
"...out of control"
I'm sorry..... but he's probably been the most 'in control' person on this entire thread.

MemorialAddress 11th December 2008 01:22 AM

Oh that person is a guy? Who knew!

Adrian20 11th December 2008 02:26 AM

Alright I was just joking about closing the thread so i apologize :thanks2:

@ Memorial : See what you got for opening a thread about someone who only 2 or 3 AHS members adore?
Aw Still love you tho, my Filthy C :heart

Now let's leave these 2 people be & this shall be declared their own space, their own world..

that said.

Let the love for Emilie Summer Begin. :yes

Spoiler:
Y'all try not to go too crazy tho, remember that 500 posts You have to make another thread & so. IF it ever hits the 500 post mark :)

Corrsgirl1 9th April 2009 11:09 PM

I interviewd Emilie a few years ago for my website (via email..i didn't actualy talk to her :P )
http://members.tele2.nl/marlies.vand...utumn-eng.html

xiaou-xijiang 17th April 2009 08:31 PM

I've listened to a couple of her songs, because her style and CD art is so unique and attention grabbing. The composition of the music is good, (I love the strings) her voice takes something to get used to, most of the time its not something I care to hear. I'm still on the fence with this emilie; I'm not sure if I like her or not.

The pictures from her lives look amazing.


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