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Emperatriz Ayumi 19th March 2009 12:51 AM

Did Ayu go into a plastic surgery during her stay in Hawaii??
 
Hi!!! I was watching the new pv´s and I have noticed something different in her face... Did you notice that her nose is a little bit different? You can check it at the end of NEXT LEVEL and in SPARKLE pv when she is singing wearing the yellow dress... For me she has gone into a nose surgery during her stay in Hawaii...

What do you think???

Please please comment!!!

sugarbasil 19th March 2009 01:01 AM

Yeah, I noticed it, too. Her nose is COMPLETELY different. That would explain why her photoshoots have had that weird nose, too. Personally, I'm not a fan of it. I think it looks really bad on her. But yeah, other than surgery, I can't think of how else she could have gotten that. :shrug

ownsarai 19th March 2009 01:03 AM

um...doesn't it take weeks/months to heal from surgery? I mean, she still has her finger bandaged from when she hurt her hand in December. I think your just seeing something I am not. Ayu looks the same to me.

Zeke. 19th March 2009 01:11 AM

I can't tell in the Sparkle PV since it's so low quality but here's a snapshot of the NEXT LEVEL scene. Her nose looks bigger though to me. It might be the quality. Or that god awful haircut. Lol.

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...er/ayunose.jpg

maikaru 19th March 2009 01:15 AM

Her nose.. looks the same..
The picture reminds me of her nose from Countdown 2005 - 2006..
I think it's just the new makeup patterns..

And yeah.. it takes many months before she could be seen in public with a nose job.
She would still have bruises and stuff all over her nose area.

Dokiyo 19th March 2009 01:17 AM

^yeah, i believe make up can make HUGE differences in the way someones face looks...O_O..but ofcourse, most people here would know that if they use make-up

kotora 19th March 2009 01:20 AM

How do you know she did surgery?
Look she did surgery but not her face.

This is her next single cover.
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5411/82442340.jpg

haraiso 19th March 2009 01:32 AM

She looks exactly the same to me.
Plus, it takes months to heal from surgery and it would've been pretty obvious if she had gotten a nose job since she was pretty much in the public eye for most of the time while she was filming the 3 new PVs.
Not to mention Ayu is probably a slow healer, since her hand/finger is still bandaged from her accident a couple months ago.

What you're seeing is probably just a different make-up style.

Emperatriz Ayumi 19th March 2009 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kotora (Post 1865368)
How do you know she did surgery?
Look she did surgery but not her face.

This is her next single cover.
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5411/82442340.jpg

wahahajajajaja that pic is SOOOOOOOO funny!!!!

Check these images out... If it is not a surgery, it is a bad make up... the third pic I mean.

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...yumi/nose3.jpg
http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...yumi/nose2.jpg
http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...yumi/nose1.png
http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...yumi/nose4.jpg

love in music 19th March 2009 01:44 AM

i don't see anything.. it's probably just the make-up/editing.. but i believe she did have plastic surgery on her entire face long ago

AyUmIXx 19th March 2009 01:49 AM

i also saw the difference in Sparkle PV..specially the yellow dress one~
but i still hope that it's only the camera angle....
i've not yet seen the HQ PV for both Sparkle and NEXT LEVEL though so still not know if she really did nose surgery or not..

pommy48 19th March 2009 01:49 AM

hmm i don't think she had surgery, it would take a long time, and ayu shot photos of herself during hawaii for TA, but she didn't wear a bandage on her nose or anything

ayumisrael 19th March 2009 01:50 AM

On NEXT LEVEL covers her nose is like it always was and they were shot after she was in Hawaii.
She didn't do any surgery on her face.

I hope anyone will get used to it that she is heavy and sometimes differently make-uped and photoshopped that it makes her look like she has an operation on while in fact she didn't. xD

GRACE 19th March 2009 01:55 AM

Wearing like twenty pounds of make up and photoshop can make you look like a completely different person ._. Why do people insist that she's had plastic surgery, when her behind the scenes makeupless pictures look like an aged version of predebut Ayu?

Jason 19th March 2009 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by part of Me ♥ (Post 1865391)
i don't see anything.. it's probably just the make-up/editing.. but i believe she did have plastic surgery on her entire face long ago

That's never been confirmed.

Really, without make-up she just looks older than before her avex debut. Ayumi just wears ALOT of make-up and her advertisement pics are photoshopped to hell (as with most artists).

I believe, unless officially revealed by ayu herself, she hasn't had surgery.

Qt Mashi 19th March 2009 02:15 AM

i thought her nose looked a bit different too but i don't think she did any surgery, it looks smaller probably because her face has gone a bit chubbier.

SunshineSlayer 19th March 2009 02:15 AM

I will say that her face does look slightly different, but I can't put my finger on what. It could be makeup or aging though.

Just for arguments sake though - say she did it in Hawaii after the TA photos had been shot. As far as I remember, we didn't really see her for a month or so after that. That is still a fast healing time though. Although I don't know what the healing time these days is. Some procedures these days are much less invasive than they were in the past.

If anything, I'd be speculating more about her chest. If she didn't do anything to it, then I want her bra now! lol

QT Mashi is right too: Her face has gotten wider over the last year somehow. Even my Mother pointed out the difference when we went to AT08.

Polyrhythm 19th March 2009 02:22 AM

In all her blog pictures, she looks exactly like the ayu from back in 2000....its just an evolution in makeup I think....I do think she got work done to her face maybe before Poker Face....but I dont think its like plastic surgery....more like something that made her teeth look better

emi♡ 19th March 2009 02:27 AM

I'm pretty sure it's because of the way they did her make up. Especially in Next Level, it's really different than most stuff we're used to, and I believe that's what makes her look different. It's mostly in the eyeliner and probably...yeah the terrible haircut.

I don't think she had plastic surgery on her nose...and if she did, she wasted a bunch of munny, because it looks the same.

She doesn't have any reason to have it...so...believe what you want I guess.

Maybe they digitally removed the bandages :yes

SunshineSlayer 19th March 2009 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xheartstation (Post 1865432)
In all her blog pictures, she looks exactly like the ayu from back in 2000....its just an evolution in makeup I think....I do think she got work done to her face maybe before Poker Face....but I dont think its like plastic surgery....more like something that made her teeth look better

Oh she for sure got her teeth done. That's not even a question. Actually she had her "bad" teeth through most of Loveappears. I don't really count the teeth though when talking about plastic surgery.

happiholic★ 19th March 2009 03:07 AM

It's how she is contouring her nose with make-up. To me, a make-up fanatic, I can totally tell when she is and isn't in those pictures posted. Like, I can pretty much see the make-up. Photoshop helps, too.

ayumijry 19th March 2009 03:21 AM

that is impossible, coz the surgery can't be done in such a short time, and ayu didn't have the time to do this

Ayumiko 19th March 2009 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1865422)
If anything, I'd be speculating more about her chest. If she didn't do anything to it, then I want her bra now! lol

The wonders of PJ's famous push-up padded bras...

Ayu's nose looks the same to me. Some of her recent pics look different coz of her lips and eyebrows. I don't like when she tries to make her lips bigger with the use of lip pencil (see latest Vivi cover) and her eyebrows are too thin...whenever she does the ugly fish lips expression, her eyebrows goes weird.

Kazeyomi 19th March 2009 03:39 AM

Her nose looks the same for me :shrug

Maybe is just camera angles and make up that make it different

Quote:

I don't like when she tries to make her lips bigger with the use of lip pencil (see latest Vivi cover) and her eyebrows are too thin...whenever she does the ugly fish lips expression, her eyebrows goes weird.
lol I agree XD even if I like her eyebrows.
With thick eyebrows she may looks ugly o_ò

dreamland2.0 19th March 2009 03:42 AM

On the new ViVi cover she looks like those pictures of her "Mum" that was supposedly at PCDL!
Not really the best comparison :|
http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...yumi/nose4.jpg
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4562/ayusmummaybe.png

kendelle 19th March 2009 03:42 AM

I do believe she's had her teeth done but I'm not so sure about plastic surgery.

Even in her recent pics she still has the bags under her eyes she's always had, I think makeup and hairstyle play a big part in changing her face.

If she had plastic surgery she'd have massive bruises that can't be covered in make-up. It would probably be very painful to talk and sing even if she could use makeup to cover the bruises.

You'd be surprised how much hairstyles can change a person's appearance (not just the hair though lol). I'm yet to see the full PV admittedly but I would doubt it's more than makeup and the lighter than usual colour of her hair playing tricks on us :)

maikaru 19th March 2009 03:43 AM

yeah, looking at it again, and pictures from the past, her nose looks 100% the same.. ahaha.
She is also using new eye-bigger-maker contacts.. ahaha (sorry about that one..)
So her eyes look even bigger, which throws off the already known proportions of her face~
That's why her nose looks bigger, or smaller, or just different. ahaha

And about the breast..
Yeah she has no breasts in NEXT LEVEL covers.. ahaha.
It is the magic of Wacoal. Dont worry.

brand new love 19th March 2009 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason (Post 1865411)
That's never been confirmed.

part of Me ♥ wasn't saying it like it's a fact :shrug whether it was confirmed or not some people are going to believe she has had plastic surgery..


her nose doesn't look that different to me. miracles can come out of make-up if you have the right people working with you, and yeah, her nose would not heal in such a short time. she would probably still have a bandage on, which you can't just take off whenever you feel like it.

jbrat2219 19th March 2009 04:37 AM

Ayu's too busy for plastic surgery lol.

Months off work to heal? She didn't even cancel PCDL for REQUIRED surgery...

StarSUCKER 19th March 2009 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 1865533)
yeah, looking at it again, and pictures from the past, her nose looks 100% the same.. ahaha.
She is also using new eye-bigger-maker contacts.. ahaha (sorry about that one..)
So her eyes look even bigger, which throws off the already known proportions of her face~
That's why her nose looks bigger, or smaller, or just different. ahaha.

Ohhh yes, circle lenses. They make her eyes look huuuuge. As for her nose and the appearance of how wide/narrow her face is, I'm sure she uses many different shades of foundation, and that can change the appearance of shadows to make facial features look differently-shaped.

I used to think Ayu had surgery (besides teeth), but honestly, if she did it was probably very slight eye surgery, if anything. Probably not even that though, since she looks the same w/o makeup as she did when she was younger.

aloopy 19th March 2009 04:53 AM

it looks like she got her lips done. or really bad make-up/photoshop. ayu looks more fake that ever in the new magazine cover

Lee^ChaN 19th March 2009 05:03 AM

i believe it's make up & effects

g~sus~ 19th March 2009 05:18 AM

Urm...usually in shooting PV many artist will have TONS of make up on...Her nose seems same to me..She had a perfect nose..why would she wanna do surgery

AyUta 19th March 2009 05:23 AM

I definitely see some difference there...but as other people have stated, the healing process....

love in music 19th March 2009 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason (Post 1865411)
That's never been confirmed.

Really, without make-up she just looks older than before her avex debut. Ayumi just wears ALOT of make-up and her advertisement pics are photoshopped to hell (as with most artists).

I believe, unless officially revealed by ayu herself, she hasn't had surgery.

i know it hasn't, it's just what i believe. :yes and lots of people who have plastic surgery don't reveal it.

Ayumiko 19th March 2009 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koshka (Post 1865524)
lol I agree XD even if I like her eyebrows.
With thick eyebrows she may looks ugly o_ò

She looks better when she had thicker eyebrows and lighter make-up...like this:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...984/pic532.jpg

panda♥ 19th March 2009 05:37 AM

I'm sorry if this comes off rude, but I'm getting annoyed at plastic surgery comments. People need to use their heads before posting about it. Just my take. :shrug

Any form of plastic surgery takes weeks and in this case MONTHS to heal. We've never seen Ayu's nose bandaged up or anything this past year. It's probably just make up, you can contour different parts of your face and make them appear thinner and different than what they are. :/

SolarAngel 19th March 2009 05:49 AM

^I think that is a little rude. People with no exposure to plastic surgery may not be aware of these information. I only know about the long healing time because of extreme makeover. In any case, her nose does look weird in some of the photos but i think that's just angling and lighting issues.

a_kingdom21 19th March 2009 05:52 AM

i think its just make up differences.....

on next level pv ayu used to much nose shading that rarely put her on in japan apearances....

hollywood artist put on too much shading on their make up....

alterna 19th March 2009 05:58 AM

Her nose looks the same.

jimex289 19th March 2009 06:01 AM

Curiosity is a good thing lol. I guess since this issue has been bought up so many times it's starting to become a jading experience of sorts. Her face does not look any different to me (without taking into account the teeth since 2005-2006ish, which I think is obvious); take it from someone's whose been watching all her TV appearances and most recent concert DVDs. All I can think of is the difference being attributed to lighting/make-up/angle.

Call me ignorant but the Ayu I know wouldn't get plastic or some major cosmetic procedure done on her face. I can confidently say this based on the way she's viewed certain things, her overall outlook, etc.. Also, ask yourself: why would she get one now when she could have had it done years back?

freedreamer 19th March 2009 06:11 AM

Her nose looks the same..lol.

I'd say her eyes look different because of the eyeliner and the greenish makeup...that's all i felt rather different...

AND THAT'S HER MUM?!?!?!

rookies 19th March 2009 06:15 AM

Her mom sure looks really young in that pic. :D

SunshineSlayer 19th March 2009 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by teddbear55 (Post 1865529)
On the new ViVi cover she looks like those pictures of her "Mum" that was supposedly at PCDL!
Not really the best comparison :|

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4562/ayusmummaybe.png

I'm not sure why anyone would think that is her mother. It appears to just be a random woman in the audience. The woman pictured there isn't even in the vip section.

btw, I finally figured out where Ayu's Mom's shop is and it turns out that I've actually passed it several times, but since I wasn't specifically looking for the shop, I didn't notice it. I'll be sure to go on my next Japan trip so the question of what Ayu's Mom looks like can finally be solved.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimex289 (Post 1865723)
(without taking into account the teeth since 2005-2006ish, which I think is obvious);

Actually it seems she had her teeth done cosmetically twice. Check out the super old performances, especially the performances of Love~Destiny - her teeth were completely different then. Soon after, her mouth was totally overhauled and then it seems it changed again (though not as drastically) in 05/06.

panda♥ 19th March 2009 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SolarAngel (Post 1865707)
^I think that is a little rude. People with no exposure to plastic surgery may not be aware of these information. I only know about the long healing time because of extreme makeover. In any case, her nose does look weird in some of the photos but i think that's just angling and lighting issues.


I think it's common sense, but that's just me. I really didn't mean to come off rude...

hiroshi_ben 19th March 2009 06:25 AM

i believe its all because of make up :)

mtr_ayu 19th March 2009 06:29 AM

i think she is using the shadowing makeup effect on her nose bridge to make it look sharper but then it backfired,lol. basically wad I suspect she did was to apply darker tone around the edge of her nose bridge and thats why the middle portion looks so bright.

polka-dot-jewel 19th March 2009 06:33 AM

Photoshop and makeup can make a huge difference. It literally takes weeks to heal from cosmetic surgeries, and we would've known if she had any work done.

We all know she's had work done on her teeth. Any other surgery she may have had is all a bunch of rumors unless Ayu tells us otherwise.

tinka69 19th March 2009 06:45 AM

nahh it looks the same. its hard to tell when people put up different pics of her with different facial expressions.

maaya 19th March 2009 06:50 AM

do something with teeth can easily make your face change. my friend looks very pretty after she used braces

jbrat2219 19th March 2009 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by panda♥ (Post 1865748)
I think it's common sense, but that's just me. I really didn't mean to come off rude...

I agree. It kind of is common sense, any major surgical procedure takes a while to heal from... You don't just bounce back after a day or so.

panda♥ 19th March 2009 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 1865806)
I agree. It kind of is common sense, any major surgical procedure takes a while to heal from... You don't just bounce back after a day or so.

Yeah. I don't even think you have to have BASIC knowledge of plastic surgery procedures to know that it takes a loooong time to heal from it. :shrug

douggn 19th March 2009 07:34 AM

I believe that she had surgery long ago but not in this case, different hair and makeup can change how your face looks, with I think it is in this case :P

Corvina 19th March 2009 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by douggn (Post 1865839)
I believe that she had surgery long ago but not in this case, different hair and makeup can change how your face looks, with I think it is in this case :P

That's what I tend to believe, too.
But nowadays it's just make up.

koumori 19th March 2009 09:37 AM

It would leave a load of bruising and it would be probably too risky and dangerous to start filming all that dance chereography in RULE and Sparkle if she had another nose job recently.

If it looks different, maybe it was different make-up/lighting/computer editing. ^^

panda♥ 19th March 2009 09:38 AM

I'm very against people assuming Ayu has had plastic surgery in the past, but common sense comes into that play once again and people don't seem to really get it... :shrug

asmAyumi1992 19th March 2009 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teddbear55 (Post 1865529)
On the new ViVi cover she looks like those pictures of her "Mum" that was supposedly at PCDL!
Not really the best comparison :|
http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...yumi/nose4.jpg
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4562/ayusmummaybe.png

wow. Their eyes look the same.



imo, I don't think Ayu had plastic surgery at all. (Maybe for the past times, it's a yes).

love in music 19th March 2009 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by panda♥ (Post 1865934)
I'm very against people assuming Ayu has had plastic surgery in the past, but common sense comes into that play once again and people don't seem to really get it... :shrug

come on, it's pretty obvious imo

Emperatriz Ayumi 19th March 2009 10:02 AM

Thanks people to all of you for your comments... :love

I should learn more about make-up!:yes

ayumixfan 19th March 2009 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by part of Me ♥ (Post 1865949)
come on, it's pretty obvious imo

lol ur not alone on this :P anyways just because she got plastic surgery doesn't mean anything bad anyways. I don't get why its so offensive. There's like a rumor that almost every asian artist gets plastic surgery XD and sooner or later a lot of actors/singers resort to botox to stay young so its not that surprising... Well its opinionated at this point because we'll never know the truth XD

Ayumiko 19th March 2009 10:33 AM

Ayu's been updating today's photos during her absent days in the states...she couldn't possibly get her nose done.

Corvina 19th March 2009 10:39 AM

Well, comparing her early swim suit/bikini photos with pics done later as a singer, I do believe she has something done.
But I also believe she hasn't plastic surgery since the beginning of her singer career, just a lot of make up and photoshop.
Nevertheless I would be very happy if her beauty is indeed natural.^^
Even if it's kind of unfair then, to be so pretty. XD

Overall I agree with ayumixfan.
It doesn't really matter if or if not, her music and her personality is the most important thing.

~ayu-cake~ 19th March 2009 10:40 AM

If she did, then damn she healed fast.
Even when she was staying in Hawaii, we still had the TA pics, and we have mag shoots from there as well, so..I think not.

AyuGAME 19th March 2009 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ayumiko (Post 1865982)
Ayu's been updating today's photos during her absent days in the states...she couldn't possibly get her nose done.

good point...she posted her everday activites photos...so there is no way she done something with her nose...

its the magic of make up

Kingdom 19th March 2009 11:02 AM

can surgery even heal that quickly?

panda♥ 19th March 2009 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by part of Me ♥ (Post 1865949)
come on, it's pretty obvious imo


Nobody can assume that she has or has not had plastic surgery before because she's never said it herself and we sure as hell are not her doctor nor do we have access to her medical records.

I will say though... Please explain how she was able to afford plastic surgery before stardom, and please explain how, if she did go under during her debut, she recovered so quickly? Plastic surgery takes at a minimum 6 weeks to heal depending on the procedure. Have we ever seen pictures of Ayu with bandages or bruises on her face from surgery?

My take, she hasn't had time to recover from plastic surgery from her debut until now. Before then I really doubt she even had the money to afford surgery and I doubt her mother would even let her at such a young age. :shrug

Faces change as people grow older. I have not seen a significant difference (something a surgery would do) from looking at her old swim suit modeling pictures and looking at her now without any makeup.

Qt Mashi 19th March 2009 12:49 PM

plastic or no plastic i don't really care.

but you know what i think?

if Ayu did have surgery she probably did it when Max Matsuura sent her to New York for vocal lessons and also offered her a "make over" while she's there.

AyUmIXx 19th March 2009 12:57 PM

i don't believe she has done plastic surgery before because from what i've seen..her pic without make up looks exactly the same with the young Ayu~ :)

haikudasai 19th March 2009 04:11 PM

I believe that over time she's had some nips and tucks. She's been smart about it and doing subtle things rather than drastic changes (excluding her teeth).

From what I've read regarind nose jobs is that you wear the brace and bandage for a week and the thing that lasts the longest is the swelling. Bruising occurs but like most will fade away with ease. If she only had the tip of her nose done it wouldn't have been anything with the bone and I doubt bruising would be drastic if it were just the tip.

The fact of the matter is is that Ayumi Hamasaki is in the entertainment industry which is based on looks. Her main act IS her look. She's visual. I really don't think she would, or has, ruled out plastic surgery. I also don't think she looks at it like the devil a lot of people posting here do.

~Tsubasa~ 19th March 2009 05:21 PM

I don't see a difference!

I think it's only the make up. And I'm sure that PV's are also digital photoshoped and not only pics!

jbrat2219 19th March 2009 06:10 PM

I wouldn't rule out previous surgeries, however, I feel it is highly unlikely... Ayu looks like a complete different person with no make up and much similar to her older self. And any work she may have had done is extremely subtle because we can't even tell for sure.

C+R+E+AYUMI 19th March 2009 06:15 PM

It seems very different....but i had nose surgery and i swear it take almost a month before you don't see no more scars and blood signs...my face was huge during that period...

jbrat2219 19th March 2009 06:38 PM

I wouldn't rule out previous surgeries, however, I feel it is highly unlikely... Ayu looks like a complete different person with no make up and much similar to her older self. And any work she may have had done is extremely subtle because we can't even tell for sure.

hidekirby 19th March 2009 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GRACE (Post 1865410)
Wearing like twenty pounds of make up and photoshop can make you look like a completely different person ._. Why do people insist that she's had plastic surgery, when her behind the scenes makeupless pictures look like an aged version of predebut Ayu?

So true. Dunno why but those stupid rumors and comments about her surgery always annoyed me :yes

Kagome-chan 19th March 2009 07:34 PM

Noo!

ayu didn't have the time to do this, and she sent every day the Today's photos!!

yatenkouxoxo 19th March 2009 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by panda♥ (Post 1865689)
I'm sorry if this comes off rude, but I'm getting annoyed at plastic surgery comments. People need to use their heads before posting about it. Just my take. :shrug

Any form of plastic surgery takes weeks and in this case MONTHS to heal. We've never seen Ayu's nose bandaged up or anything this past year. It's probably just make up, you can contour different parts of your face and make them appear thinner and different than what they are. :/

Agreed. You guys are all blowing this WAY out of proportion.

micster 19th March 2009 07:59 PM

If she had it done in LA then she healed extremely fast. Also you say you can see it in the Sparkle video which was done a couple of weeks before she left for LA.

panda♥ 19th March 2009 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GRACE (Post 1865410)
Wearing like twenty pounds of make up and photoshop can make you look like a completely different person ._. Why do people insist that she's had plastic surgery, when her behind the scenes makeupless pictures look like an aged version of predebut Ayu?

^agree. :yes

Kanzaki 19th March 2009 08:32 PM

Surgery on the nose can be done with a shot. No surgery needed. So it's possible, sure.
Doesn't looks like it though. Make-up, lights and photoshopping can be pretty mis-leading, you know?

Aisha_Angel 19th March 2009 09:07 PM

In the recent ViVi-photospread, I thought to myself---This isn't Ayu. This is somebody else. I seriously had to look hard to find SOMETHING that let me know it was Ayumi in those pictures and not a stand in. Even now, the only one's that look like Ayu to me are the ones when she's standing with the snow cone. Other than that, I completely didn't recognize her.

As far as her nose in the PV for NEXT LEVEL, Ayu looks very much like herself. I think the shorter-length of hair is what's drawing more attention to her nose than usual. If we could get a side picture of her from that PV though and compare it with a side shot of her nose in the PV for RAINBOW, we could tell a little better.

I suggest using RAINBOW because I remember watching the tissue-finger scene (you know, the one where she's wearing all white and the background's blue...)...Anyway, I remember when she turned to the side a little bit I said to myself that Ayu has a hook nose...It was weird to me at the time because I'd never known a Japanese person to have a hook nose like that. Meh...but that was a LONG time ago.

noidea 19th March 2009 09:15 PM

it takes several weeks for nose surgery to heal + you have to wear a big nose patch for around a month, so no nose surgery here

noidea 19th March 2009 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Tsubasa~ (Post 1866224)
I don't see a difference!

I think it's only the make up. And I'm sure that PV's are also digital photoshoped and not only pics!

thats extremely expensive, it costs thousends of euros to do so because you have to edit every single frame and his still has to flow well, but for photoshoots, you only have to edit 4-12 pics, not over 5000 like a regular pv has(30 a second, 1800 a minute)

ALfromHELLSING 19th March 2009 09:56 PM

Just look her making of videos and you will see that she looks almost the same like she was back in poker face era. The same goes for Kumi. On KOSE promo she looks like complete different person, while on live events she looks like real Kuu. :P

ayumixfan 20th March 2009 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by panda♥ (Post 1866026)
Nobody can assume that she has or has not had plastic surgery before because she's never said it herself and we sure as hell are not her doctor nor do we have access to her medical records.

I will say though... Please explain how she was able to afford plastic surgery before stardom, and please explain how, if she did go under during her debut, she recovered so quickly? Plastic surgery takes at a minimum 6 weeks to heal depending on the procedure. Have we ever seen pictures of Ayu with bandages or bruises on her face from surgery?

My take, she hasn't had time to recover from plastic surgery from her debut until now. Before then I really doubt she even had the money to afford surgery and I doubt her mother would even let her at such a young age. :shrug

Faces change as people grow older. I have not seen a significant difference (something a surgery would do) from looking at her old swim suit modeling pictures and looking at her now without any makeup.

Well she could've gotten a job to pay for plastic surgery... Its not that expensive. She could've gotten it done over a period of time before stardom. My mom's friend is getting plastic surgery and she's not rich. Its not THAT expensive.

She could've gotten sugery done and then signed up for the swim suit model. That is also a possibility.

She did leave home and went to tokyo at an early age so her mom can't control her if she lived on her own and who knows, maybe her mom did let her at an early age :S

I personally don't know for sure if she did plastic surgery, but i think she did. I'm not saying its because she's ugly, but maybe she wanted bigger eyes, or a nicer nose. Just to finish little touches to look perfect.

SunshineSlayer 20th March 2009 10:50 AM

hmm. I was just looking at the pictures of her in dance rehearsal - the TA ones on the news page. Even there her breasts look very pushed up and pushed together....yet its a dance rehearsal. If it is a bra, why bother with such a constricting one for dance practice? In fact it doesn't even look like she is wearing anything other than a black dance top. All of her recent pictures show more cleavage than she really ever did before. They have never looked that voluminous in the past. The only one where her breasts look their normal size is the Rule cover, but even then, she is wearing latex which will flatten you (I've worn it before, haha) and she is arching her back with her head thrown back as well - that will flatten anyone. And then add the fact that it seems she lost quite a bit of weight from December on, but none of it came from her chest and usually for a lot of women, that is the first place it comes off from. (unfortunately...^_^) In many of the recent TA photos I think her chest looks bigger than it was before. Not hugely bigger, but still bigger all the same. So she has either decided to wear big push up bras all day everyday now or it is the alternative.

I hope it really is just bras, because there was nothing wrong with her to begin with. And if it is just bras, I wish she didn't feel the need to try and flaunt her chest so much these days. I was watching a bunch of her old performance videos today and really she didn't show her chest much, if at all. But all of a sudden from last year on, its become chest central. :)

Unless she comes out looking completely freakish sometime though, we may not ever know for sure if/what she has had done.

Sorry Ayu to be talking about your breasts so much, lol! I'll try and be quiet now.

Yoake 20th March 2009 10:56 AM

I don't think she did plastic surgery it's probably her make up, the light and don't forget Ayu is ALLERGIC!!!!

C+R+E+AYUMI 20th March 2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rookies (Post 1865741)
Her mom sure looks really young in that pic. :D

I thought the same thing...she looks so beautiful and much younger...they seem proper mother and daughter!!

vampireknightzero 20th March 2009 12:14 PM

even though i personally feel that ayu had undergo plastic surgery, but that's alright. love her always :)

chloeM 20th March 2009 01:14 PM

make up and hair do...

Jeremy911 20th March 2009 03:43 PM

Are we really going to start this plastic surgery ******** again? I though Ayu sqwashed the rumors about her eyes when she started not wearing makeup in alot of her extras? Anyways your going off a freaking PV where touchups happen all the time, And surgery can take months to heal... Besides her nose looks the same to me anyway. It's mostly just the children here trying to up there post count, and start drama is all.

Jeremy911 20th March 2009 03:51 PM

Here is a statement on how long as nose job take to heal from a 'REAL' plastic surgeon.

In my practice, we see patients for primary and secondary rhinoplasty. Healing time can vary, but the general post-operative course I describe to my patients can include the following depending on what was done during the rhinoplasty:

1. Post-op - for the first 3-5 days patients have a splint and nasal packing in place.
2. Days 3-5 - the packing or internal nasal splint is removed and the external splint is changed. Any exterior sutures are removed (some patients will not have external sutures at all).
3. Days 7-10 - we remove the external splint.

Usually patients are OK to return to non-strenuous work at one week.

Healing for any boney work takes about 6 weeks. The incisions are usually well on their way to being healed at 2-3 weeks. And while most changes are complete in the first month, tip swelling can persist for about a year.

I hope this helps!



Now maybe this will shut you folks up?

JCD13 20th March 2009 05:09 PM

I think she just flares her nostrils a lot. Especially when she does those weird mouth " ^ " type expressions, where her bottom lip comes down and her mouth is open. Make-up, lighting, angles, all that can make her nose look different. Also, maybe her nose isnt perfectly symmetrical, so it may look different from different sides.

Try taking some pictures of yourself from different angles and see if you had a "nose job" in between pictures. >_>

haikudasai 20th March 2009 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy911 (Post 1867431)
Here is a statement on how long as nose job take to heal from a 'REAL' plastic surgeon.

In my practice, we see patients for primary and secondary rhinoplasty. Healing time can vary, but the general post-operative course I describe to my patients can include the following depending on what was done during the rhinoplasty:

1. Post-op - for the first 3-5 days patients have a splint and nasal packing in place.
2. Days 3-5 - the packing or internal nasal splint is removed and the external splint is changed. Any exterior sutures are removed (some patients will not have external sutures at all).
3. Days 7-10 - we remove the external splint.

Usually patients are OK to return to non-strenuous work at one week.

Healing for any boney work takes about 6 weeks. The incisions are usually well on their way to being healed at 2-3 weeks. And while most changes are complete in the first month, tip swelling can persist for about a year.

I hope this helps!



Now maybe this will shut you folks up?

That's what I said prior to this. There isn't much downtime for a nose job.

Look at someone like Ashley Tisdale (most recent to have a nose job) she had downtime that seemed to last just a week and was already at events and such doing work with no sign of bruising or incision site. The only visible sign was a mild case of being swollen.

The interesting thing about this whole discussion is the immediate attempt to squash those who think she did (in the past at all) rather than live and let live.

I did find it funny that this person said "boney" rather than keeping it real and stating the true term. lol

stickyrice 20th March 2009 05:40 PM

Meh - whatever. if she got it done, she got it done. I never cared about the whole plastic surgery thing anyways, and that goes for every celebrity (or non-celebrity)

jbrat2219 20th March 2009 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1867135)
hmm. I was just looking at the pictures of her in dance rehearsal - the TA ones on the news page. Even there her breasts look very pushed up and pushed together....yet its a dance rehearsal. If it is a bra, why bother with such a constricting one for dance practice? In fact it doesn't even look like she is wearing anything other than a black dance top. All of her recent pictures show more cleavage than she really ever did before. They have never looked that voluminous in the past. The only one where her breasts look their normal size is the Rule cover, but even then, she is wearing latex which will flatten you (I've worn it before, haha) and she is arching her back with her head thrown back as well - that will flatten anyone. And then add the fact that it seems she lost quite a bit of weight from December on, but none of it came from her chest and usually for a lot of women, that is the first place it comes off from. (unfortunately...^_^) In many of the recent TA photos I think her chest looks bigger than it was before. Not hugely bigger, but still bigger all the same. So she has either decided to wear big push up bras all day everyday now or it is the alternative.

I hope it really is just bras, because there was nothing wrong with her to begin with. And if it is just bras, I wish she didn't feel the need to try and flaunt her chest so much these days. I was watching a bunch of her old performance videos today and really she didn't show her chest much, if at all. But all of a sudden from last year on, its become chest central. :)

Unless she comes out looking completely freakish sometime though, we may not ever know for sure if/what she has had done.

Sorry Ayu to be talking about your breasts so much, lol! I'll try and be quiet now.

:roflmao

To a certain extent I can understand why she's doing it. I think she's just getting in touch with her sexual side a little more. I don't think she's gone too far yet.

SunshineSlayer 20th March 2009 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by haikudasai (Post 1867487)
That's what I said prior to this. There isn't much downtime for a nose job.

I agree. Jeremy's post actually proved the point that it is possible time wise for her to have had something done - even if that wasn't the intention of this post^_^. (She had a few periods last year of inactivity. Or at least some stretches of time where she was not in the public eye)

I don't think she had a nose job though - it doesn't seem definitive enough to make that statement since it could just be makeup still.

But yeah, plastic surgery recovery time, especially if you aren't doing some major overhaul, has actually gotten much shorter in the last couple of years. She did actually have the time last year to have something done. Not saying she did it, just that it is possible time wise for her to have had something done last year if she had wanted to.

RikkuChii 20th March 2009 11:01 PM

Naw, she did nothing to her face. It's probably just make-up.

ALfromHELLSING 20th March 2009 11:16 PM

^agree.
Ayu's plastic surgery topics are much more popular than her new album topic. I never new that it is so interesting...

pommy48 20th March 2009 11:17 PM

:roflmao, why is it that people doubt the power of makeup Xd

love in music 20th March 2009 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1867135)
hmm. I was just looking at the pictures of her in dance rehearsal - the TA ones on the news page. Even there her breasts look very pushed up and pushed together....yet its a dance rehearsal. If it is a bra, why bother with such a constricting one for dance practice? In fact it doesn't even look like she is wearing anything other than a black dance top. All of her recent pictures show more cleavage than she really ever did before. They have never looked that voluminous in the past. The only one where her breasts look their normal size is the Rule cover, but even then, she is wearing latex which will flatten you (I've worn it before, haha) and she is arching her back with her head thrown back as well - that will flatten anyone. And then add the fact that it seems she lost quite a bit of weight from December on, but none of it came from her chest and usually for a lot of women, that is the first place it comes off from. (unfortunately...^_^) In many of the recent TA photos I think her chest looks bigger than it was before. Not hugely bigger, but still bigger all the same. So she has either decided to wear big push up bras all day everyday now or it is the alternative.

I hope it really is just bras, because there was nothing wrong with her to begin with. And if it is just bras, I wish she didn't feel the need to try and flaunt her chest so much these days. I was watching a bunch of her old performance videos today and really she didn't show her chest much, if at all. But all of a sudden from last year on, its become chest central. :)

Unless she comes out looking completely freakish sometime though, we may not ever know for sure if/what she has had done.

Sorry Ayu to be talking about your breasts so much, lol! I'll try and be quiet now.

yeah i was noticing that too. also, most people that do get breast implants have the constant need to show them off after they heal. :P


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