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Maxker 22nd May 2009 12:55 PM

Team Message #537 - "I will bring you here for an explanation"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nt31dean (Post 1954517)
Oh no! Now everyone has read this message totally wrong!
It totally has nothing to do with that shibuya incident!
I've read another translation from the original Japanese message.
It says ayu's dancer, Maron, wrote an entry concerning the cancellation of Osaka performance and then caused some missunderstaning by those fans.
Then ayu stepped up for him and expressed that words cannot encompass all of one's thoughts and therefore it's definitely impossible to 100% make clear what one thinks with words.
And that's where missunderstandong comes from, which is also why she thinks excessive explanation is so useless.
Ayu thinks that Maron has his own point that cannot be clearly or completely expressed only through words, and that something may have been missunderstood.

I have to say google itself is absolutely a huge missunderstander!

Let me ...
No. 537 21-05-2009 02h37

... I will bring you here for an explanation, importent first explanation, and I don't think it's useful. However, I will concern me back to you.

Following the cancellation of performances in Osaka, dancers, musicians, people from the staff (the people I know, but also a lot that I don't know I think), many have expressed their feelings in their respective blogs.

Words are something very difficult to use. Also for me, who for 11 years, have had to face these words, I think I know something, I know even have some really enough. To express what is in your heart with words is very difficult. To the point that I even feel that the term "very difficult" is too simple.

I would even say that, in my opinion, even if there are "words" among the existing ones to better express what we have at heart, I think it's impossible to transmit this 100% to another person.

Therefore, don't you want to "believe"?
Without abandoning efforts to "understand", don't you want to try?
To believe even more in people. In things. In the facts of life.

Because I wanted to put words on what happened this time, there seems to be the same people with whom again have caused a misunderstanding, but these people, probably had somthing on the heart they wanted to express in their own way.

Because, with what happened this time, there is probably not a person who did not receive a shock. Not a person.

There is not a person.

I was talking alone ...

Credit: Incognito @ AyuAngel.com
Google-translation

Larisa-chan 22nd May 2009 01:20 PM

Uhhh... wow. She sounds pretty devastated? I didn't get much of an explanation, though?

Tony G 22nd May 2009 01:23 PM

She seems to be referring to "misunderstandings" that happened in her staff's blogs, but I'm not getting anymore than that. It's a google translation so...

Maxker 22nd May 2009 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larisa-chan (Post 1952273)
Uhhh... wow. She sounds pretty devastated? I didn't get much of an explanation, though?

It's possible this message is in connection with the 'Shibuya 109' incident . :shrug I don't know...

Chef+Vanny 22nd May 2009 01:28 PM

i think she expressing her feeling about the Shibuya news
perhaps Ayu felt that she was (miss)understood?
and that "she is talkin' 2 myself" because she felt that nobody hears her explanation?

LacusClyne 22nd May 2009 01:31 PM

it looks like she refering to the Shibuya incident, there seems to be missunderstanding about her words

KarenPang 22nd May 2009 01:38 PM

thanks for the updates

regardless of which , I hope this incident will be resolved in due time

waterballoon 22nd May 2009 01:43 PM

Definitely... it seems that she's referring to her Diva quotes in the Shibuya 109 incident... hmm tabloids/gossip channels are all like this :rolleyes they just twist your words around just to get some uproar.

I hope Ayu walks out of her depression spell! Shu-ya where are you?!

Francotirador 22nd May 2009 01:44 PM

Hard to identify the main subject... but it seems a deep message.

thanks for share!

Lanz16 22nd May 2009 01:48 PM

Thanks for the message.
I felt really bad for her... she should move on no matter what.

Im not sure if it is the Osaka cancellation or Shibuya 101 incident.

Chef+Vanny 22nd May 2009 01:48 PM

I just realized that this message saddens me more than myself failing my Social Studies Mid Year Examination :cry:cry:cry:weep:weep:weep:weep:weep:weep:weep:we ep:weep:weep:weep:weep:weep:weep:weep:weep:weep:we ep
"Ayu i'm here for you"

ayumisrael 22nd May 2009 01:54 PM

Thank you.

I totally feel her (wether it's the cancellation or the event thing or both).
Feeling like talking to walls is really frustrating.

C+R+E+AYUMI 22nd May 2009 03:02 PM

she's deeply sad..unfortunately, i cannot perceive what the message is focused on..it would be nice if we could help her, just hearing her words

Lee^ChaN 22nd May 2009 03:06 PM

thanks for the translation..
it's hard to understand though :lech

move on, Ayu!!

minna 22nd May 2009 03:08 PM

thanks for the message

osaka or shibuya? I think it's hard to know what she's talking about
but I feel bad for her :( that really sucks
I hope everything will be okay soon

AyUmIXx 22nd May 2009 03:12 PM

i think it's really abobut the Shibuya issue..
talking about the FRIDAY magazine which has made ppl misunderstand about what she actually said~

nemesisyume 22nd May 2009 03:19 PM

wait what has happent :thud

oooh thaat thing! I'm slow :laugh

majrakun 22nd May 2009 03:30 PM

Wow, she sounds pretty upset. I hope she'd get it all up and going again. I think she's frustrated about both osaka and shibuya.

polka-dot-jewel 22nd May 2009 03:36 PM

It seems like she's talking about both the Osaka cancellations and the Shibuya 109 incident. Of course the cancellation of the shows made her upset (they were already set up, and then informed they couldn't perform), and now the FRIDAY magazine incident, in which they probably turned her words around. (I remember the announcement about being deaf in her left ear... she said she wish the press really hadn't gotten as involved with the situation as they had.)

I know Ayu's been talked about being used and talked about and such before, and I'm pretty sure she said the only way she can truly say what she wants is in her lyrics (of course, she sometimes does it in her blog, too).

Poor Ayu :(

AyuGAME 22nd May 2009 03:55 PM

i think she refer to cancelation of her osaka performance...

AyuHamasaki01 22nd May 2009 03:58 PM

I hope she's okay ... she sounds sad.

maikaru 22nd May 2009 04:06 PM

I am pretty sure one of the people who contributed to this big misunderstanding is Maro.
He posted a blog sometime after the expression of the cancellation of Osaka,
And it seems like he caused a big commotion among some people..
Yesterday, he posted a message in his blog saying how he deleted it, so I didn't get to read what he said before.
But many people messaged him about different things...

Anyways, it seems many, many people are creating new and new problems for her..
Some staffs are writing about their discontent, the press is writing about her disruptions..
I feel like, it's really stupid..
You cannot blame on Ayumi the outbreak of the flu.. -_-

pchan1986 22nd May 2009 04:09 PM

aww poor ayu *hugs*

ayumisrael 22nd May 2009 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 1952433)
I am pretty sure one of the people who contributed to this big misunderstanding is Maro.
He posted a blog sometime after the expression of the cancellation of Osaka,
And it seems like he caused a big commotion among some people..
Yesterday, he posted a message in his blog saying how he deleted it, so I didn't get to read what he said before.
But many people messaged him about different things...

Anyways, it seems many, many people are creating new and new problems for her..
Some staffs are writing about their discontent, the press is writing about her disruptions..
I feel like, it's really stupid..
You cannot blame on Ayumi the outbreak of the flu.. -_-

Now that you say that I'm really interested to know what Maro wrote.
What could he write that dissapointed ayu? (or what other staff wrote?)

And how come the media didn't blame the outbreak of the flu on ayu yet? -_- (being sarcastic)

AyUta 22nd May 2009 04:14 PM

I hope she gets this figured out.

AyUmIXx 22nd May 2009 04:15 PM

woah... so it's among the staff?
not about the Shibuya incident?

and what Maro posted in his blog? anyone knew bout that?

waterballoon 22nd May 2009 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 1952433)
I am pretty sure one of the people who contributed to this big misunderstanding is Maro.
He posted a blog sometime after the expression of the cancellation of Osaka,
And it seems like he caused a big commotion among some people..
Yesterday, he posted a message in his blog saying how he deleted it, so I didn't get to read what he said before.
But many people messaged him about different things...

Anyways, it seems many, many people are creating new and new problems for her..
Some staffs are writing about their discontent, the press is writing about her disruptions..
I feel like, it's really stupid..
You cannot blame on Ayumi the outbreak of the flu.. -_-

Thanks! I really wonder what Maro has blogged... might it be quoted and posted on any Japanese message board?

Anyway, do you know what the staffs have complained about?

Ayumi27 22nd May 2009 04:40 PM

Poor Ayu... with the Osaka cancellations and the Shibuya incidents she must be feeling bad

SolarAngel 22nd May 2009 04:42 PM

Very long-winded. It's a little frustrating but at the same time, i feel sorry about the whole situation. It's not just her though, i'm sure many artistes had to cancel their concerts in Osaka.

Yoake 22nd May 2009 04:48 PM

OMG Ayu feel so depressed in that message.
We are all with you, Ayu. BRAVE!!!

panda87 22nd May 2009 04:55 PM

i feel so bad for her. she must be crying a lot. i would. i could feel the struggle and distress within her. *sigh* she's so powerful, every little thing creates such a enormous echo.

crea_spain 22nd May 2009 05:56 PM

maybe she didn't want to cancel concerts in Osaka and people from Avex or her own staff forced her to cancel them,,,, ayu ganbatte !!

zyoeru 22nd May 2009 06:23 PM

Poor Ayu, I wonder what Maro wrote... I always liked Maro... :/

dreamland2.0 22nd May 2009 06:31 PM

I hope Ayu becomes stronger so she can get through these troubling times!!
Your fans are with you Ayu!!!

jimex289 22nd May 2009 07:37 PM

Is the cancellation in Osaka regarding A-nation? I thought that was something decided by avex, the rationale being that with so many people gathered in that area there is always a chance for contamination.

rakeru 22nd May 2009 08:43 PM

what exactly is it she said that the tabloids are twisting? i thought it was just a problem with permits for the stage in the street...

JackieRos 22nd May 2009 08:47 PM

i wanted to cry
omg she sounds so upset:weep

BluishDays 22nd May 2009 09:39 PM

Thanks for the mssg and translation

Poor ayu ; ; Its alot to deal with, hopefully through all this she can manage sometime to herself.

emi♡ 22nd May 2009 09:49 PM

Ayu really asks for a lot of faith from her fans...but I think...the smart ones understand what she means, and have already had the faith in her that she really prides in her fans.

"Because I wanted to put words on what happened this time, there seems to be the same people with whom again have caused a misunderstanding, but these people, probably had somthing on the heart they wanted to express in their own way."

That's very interesting. I imagine she'll be having a talk with those people.

Kazeyomi 22nd May 2009 10:08 PM

ç_ç I was joking about the Shibuya thing but.. I'm feel really sorry for her.
Poor Ayu she seems really sad.

Ayu we love you don't be so sad \ç_ç/

taskinillusion 22nd May 2009 10:27 PM

Yeah I'm pretty sure she's referring to that stupid Shibuya 109 crap. Poor Ayu...

ren0210989 22nd May 2009 11:40 PM

thank you for this. she seems really devestated, sad, confused even?

mimi.chan 22nd May 2009 11:40 PM

aww... I wish I could like help instead of feeling sad for her....

asmAyumi1992 23rd May 2009 09:05 AM

thanks for the translations.

tinka69 23rd May 2009 09:32 AM

I thought this was about the Osaka cancellations...but obviously not...what the hell is the shibuya incident? I've missed too much since I've been gone. :(

gogoayu 23rd May 2009 12:30 PM

wow that was a troll of a team ayu message! haha ayu is up to her tricks again.

shannon-nonnahs 23rd May 2009 02:36 PM

Poor Ayu! I feel sorry for her being so devastated! Hope the Shibuya incident will be resolved quickly! (:

MissElin_ 23rd May 2009 02:59 PM

But why would her staff express feelings baout the Shibuya thing in their blogs? However she sounds pretty low. Thx for the message!

Ayusan 23rd May 2009 09:14 PM

I can't know to what she refers for sure, reading this I thought it was Osaka ( people unhappy, who didn't understand why they cancelled ........ ) but maybe just Shibuya ...... for Shibuya mags really just want to add fuel on fire, they (Avex) perfectly could had deal with this silently, paying some "fees" and done ..... but no mags is doing profit with this, with the bad girl Ayu is .......

I honestly feel sad for her, I know how it can be to speak, speak and speak but no one hear you, they hear what they want to do and it really hurts.

f1rz3n_0028 23rd May 2009 09:28 PM

this message seems sad... she does sound a bit devastated, but I think she knows and we all know that we are here for her!!

thx for the translation anyway

teamMessAge 24th May 2009 02:58 AM

Wow, this is so sad! When Ayu is sad, so am I! But I hope she continues to move to the NEXT LEVEL and gets the problem resolved and leaves all this behind her.

extepan 24th May 2009 05:08 AM

i wonder what was said in the staff blogs, i didnt follow that closely

rusuke 24th May 2009 06:28 AM

Whether she is referring to osaka or shibuya, I think ayu is really sad and frustrated. And she's right that words are really difficult to use. Words are always misunderstood..

Ayu come to me and I'll give you a warm embrace...

Thanks for sharing!

nt31dean 24th May 2009 08:19 AM

Oh no! Now everyone has read this message totally wrong!
It totally has nothing to do with that shibuya incident!
I've read another translation from the original Japanese message.
It says ayu's dancer, Maron, wrote an entry concerning the cancellation of Osaka performance and then caused some missunderstaning by those fans.
Then ayu stepped up for him and expressed that words cannot encompass all of one's thoughts and therefore it's definitely impossible to 100% make clear what one thinks with words.
And that's where missunderstandong comes from, which is also why she thinks excessive explanation is so useless.
Ayu thinks that Maron has his own point that cannot be clearly or completely expressed only through words, and that something may have been missunderstood.

I have to say google itself is absolutely a huge missunderstander!

Maxker 24th May 2009 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nt31dean (Post 1954517)
Oh no! Now everyone has read this message totally wrong!
It totally has nothing to do with that shibuya incident!
I've read another translation from the original Japanese message.
It says ayu's dancer, Maron, wrote an entry concerning the cancellation of Osaka performance and then caused some missunderstaning by those fans.
Then ayu stepped up for him and expressed that words cannot encompass all of one's thoughts and therefore it's definitely impossible to 100% make clear what one thinks with words.
And that's where missunderstandong comes from, which is also why she thinks excessive explanation is so useless.
Ayu thinks that Maron has his own point that cannot be clearly or completely expressed only through words, and that something may have been missunderstood.

I have to say google itself is absolutely a huge missunderstander!

ahhh, thanks for clearing that up ^^ I'm going to quote this in the first post.

waterballoon 24th May 2009 01:57 PM

Ooo thanks for the heads up! So she's standing up for Maro lol... she really loves her team eh.

Cawaii~Onna~ 24th May 2009 02:15 PM

Thank you very much for clearing up this message!

Sometimes Google translation isn't understandable at all.

Anyway, I think that the dancer's name is Maro. Maron is her dog's if I'm not mistaken.

Hope everything will be okay. ayu seemed so depressed.

sanzo2011 24th May 2009 02:35 PM

I hope she'll feel better ! i 'm, so sad when read her message ! thanks for the news

chloeM 25th May 2009 10:10 AM

hop she's not affected from this incident

Blasterion 3rd June 2009 07:26 PM

aha ok .. :)
thanks for the translation ^^


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