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truehappiness 18th July 2009 08:20 PM

Sunrise / Sunset ~LOVE is ALL~ information and covers [V]
 
Sources include blogs/people here/2ch/official sites.

Release date is August 12th, 2009.

Tracklist information
Spoiler:
【CD+DVD】
¥1,890 (tax incl.)
AVCD-31718/B
【CD】
¥1,050 (tax incl.)
AVCD-31719

<CD>
01. Sunrise ~LOVE is ALL~ (Original mix)
- テレビ朝日「ダンディ・ダディ?」主題歌
-「MUSICO(ミュージコ♪)」TV-CMソング
02. Sunset ~LOVE is ALL~ (Original mix)
-music.jp TV-CFソング
03."fairyland-glitter-BLUE BIRD-Greatful days-July 1st" Mega-Mash-Up-Mix
04. Sunrise ~LOVE is ALL~ (Original mix -Instrumental-)
05. Sunset ~LOVE is ALL~ (Original mix -Instrumental-)
<DVD>
01. Sunrise ~LOVE is ALL~ (video clip)
02. Sunset ~LOVE is ALL~ (video clip)
03. Sunrise ~LOVE is ALL~ (making clip)


Lyrics
Spoiler:
Sunrise ~LOVE is ALL~
Quick translation from hanabiwings:
Come a little closer... Try believing a little more...

I know there were tears glistening on your cheeks
Until just a moment ago, on that smiling face
That I love best when you're smiling innocently
I won't say it's easy to show me the real you
But I have confidence I can accept this side of you, too

Hey now, in a louder voice
I wanna present you with a bigger love
I wanna make it resound in your heart
Hey now, in a louder voice
If I shout for a bigger love
I wonder if it'll reach you just a little
The long way around is just right
Cause I know we can understand one another

I get the feeling I can more or less imagine what you wanna say
Just when I think I'm facing things, I'm running away
If I say I'm not afraid, honestly it's a lie, you see
<Next line is incomprehensible to me; can't make out what she's saying>
[I've prepared for whatever may come]

Come a little closer... Try believing a little more...

You can hear this shaky, wavering pulse of mine so
I want you to come a little closer, to try believing a little more
Listen carefully to your heart
Reassuring one another has come to an end
Because we know we feel the same way about each other

We're not perfect or anything
Because we're human, my dear
But that's just fine--I really think so
Those are the parts of us that make us lovable

Hey now, in a louder voice
I wanna present you with a bigger love
I wanna make it resound in your heart
Hey now, in a louder voice
I wanna shout for a bigger love
I wonder if you felt it just a little
It's just right if we take the long way around
I'm certain we can understand one another

Kana:
もっとそばに来て もっと信じてみて

無邪気に笑う僕の大好きなその笑顔についさっきまで 涙が君の頬で光っていた事を知っているよ
ありのままを見せてとかなんて簡単に言わないけど こんな君を見ちゃっても受け止めて行ける自 信があるし

ねぇもっと大きな声で もっと大きな愛を
君に届けたい その胸に響かせたい
もっと大きな声で もっと大きな愛を叫んだら
ちょっとは伝わるかな 遠回りする位がいい 解り合える事解ってるから

君の言いたい事は何となく大体ね想像つく
僕は向き合うつもりになっているだけで逃げてるよね
怖くないとかいったら正直嘘になるけれどね

ねぇもっとそばに来て もっと信じてみて
僕のこの震える 揺れる鼓動聞こえてるから
もっとそばにいて もっと信じてみてほしい
心に耳澄ませて 確かめ合うのはもう終わり 想い合っているって知ってるから

僕らは完璧なんかじゃないよ だって人間なんだもの
だけどそれでいいそう思うんだよね そんなとこが愛しいんだから

ねぇもっと大きな声で もっと大きな愛を
君に届けたい その胸に響かせたい
もっと大きな声で もっと大きな愛を叫んだら
ちょっとは伝わるかな 遠回りする位がいい 解り合える事を解ってるから



Previews of the songs! / Full song leaks


Covers and performances and etc.
Spoiler:
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9997/avcd31719.jpg
CD-only

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3781/avcd31718.jpg
CD+DVD

Scheduled performances:
08/14 MUSIC STATION
??/?? MUSIC JAPAN [07/20 taping]

Magazine promotion for this single:
07/23 ViVi
08/07 SCawaii
08/12 Sweet

Nice translation of the article from ViVi by tenshi no hane@AHS:
Quote:

ViVi, September 2009.


“Because we’re in this kind of era, I want to send out sparkling, cheerful and powerful things. I believe that’s my duty.”

Dressed in an flashy eighties dress, Ayu smiles, “I feel happy when I’m dressed like this”. She confidently says that her music, fashion etc. express her real essence. “If I wear basic clothes, it’ll certainly calm my mood, but if I’m not allowed to do different things, it’s just uninteresting, right? If you’re only defensive, you won’t be able to create new things.”

From the 20th century to the 21st century, in those ten years, Ayu has been leading the girls of those centuries. Whilst always showing precise answers to the doubts and problems of girls from this era, now, in her 11th year, Ayu is focusing on the tastes of certain people.

“I love the fashion of the eighties. Back then, that kind of strongly and boldly coloured patterns were widespread. Because there were no personal computers in that age, it took much time and trouble for people to make things. Now, you can easily make anything, right? For example, if it’s difficult to express one emotion with words, we convey it using pictographs, just like that right?--- But with things created in the eighties, you can feel the energy and enthusiasm of the people who made them. I think that’s a great thing.”

“When I first thought about the concept for this year’s NEXT LEVEL tour, I wanted to convey the power which people hold. That idea suddenly popped into my head.”

“When I think about organisation, up 'till now, rather than a live performance, I wanted to create an entertaining stage. But, this year, while leaving the show-like part behind, the power of the band’s performance, the liveliness of the dancers, the team, my lyrics; all those things---, I wanted to let hear and show the things which can’t be turned into machines, things which only humans can do. That feeling was very strong.”

As for this year’s 10th anniversary tour, concerning both Ayu and fans; a “thank you for these ten years” feeling of gratitude was exchanged. A feeling like some kind of ceremony beyond time. That was this year’s tour. “The people who came, laughing and crying, made me very happy; it’s a very strong feeling,” Ayu said.

A live performance with nothing but fun, happens often, but a live performance that shakes the heart, happens rarely. During the NEXT LEVEL tour, the words which Ayu created one by one, putting her entire heart into them, carried the rhythms and melodies. Especially ballads like Days became songs from the soul, as if penetrating the cells of the audience one by one. A very pure feeling.

“Lately, things like lyrics make me happy. I’m often told that it looks as if I’m pursuing a goal. I’m not conscious of it to that extent, but I can recall one thing: when I sang my lyrics in January this year, ----how should I say..?---- I can’t find a proper way to say this, but there’s a “I can do this” kind of feeling. Until now, since I’m weak in vocal range and chords, everything would disappear unnoticed----. Somehow, I feel it turned into ???. So, if it’s like that, desires will also steadily come out.”

On the 12th of August, the double A single [Sunrise ~LOVE is ALL~/Sunset ~LOVE is ALL~] will be released. It’s Ayu’s new experiment, consisting of one melody but two different lyrics and arrangements.

“Sunrise is a summery, happy pop-tune, but whilst writing the lyrics I thought, “it would be nice if I turned it into a ballad, right?”. In that way, the ballad Sunset, glowing with the melancholy of the end of summer, was born.”

The subject of Sunrise is “you”, and that of Sunset is “me”. As for Sunset; I wondered if girls can sympathize with it more easily. But because I feel both songs have become each other’s ‘answer song’, I feel people can sympathize with both songs.

“Because I also wrote the songs with the theme ‘father & daughter love’ in my mind, it’s not only about romantic love, but about family love and friendship as well. I wrote the songs to fit different kinds of love.
Though I didn’t create them this way from the start, I can’t imagine them as separate anymore; both songs respond to each other.”

Ayu said, “I want to take good care of my present self”. Music, fashion, love; everything concerning Ayu is the present.
Everything continues to move forward and continues to change ---.

Supposed cover outfit:
http://i40.tinypic.com/oixjya.jpg

Photos of stuff.. from this era for those of you in the future looking at this. Ayu's mom is in the last photo!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsubasa2591 (Post 2014478)
Spoiler:

http://i32.tinypic.com/1znlz0p.jpg

http://i25.tinypic.com/4kcnzr.jpg

Cred: Ayu.no & AyuBrasil (for uploading the pics)


http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1993/f1010018.jpghttp://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9973/f1010019o.jpghttp://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8328/f1010024.jpg
Prep for the event below, from walking.proud.

Ayu at a promo event for Dandy Daddy?.
http://www.sanspo.com/geino/news/090...0519018-n1.htm

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/113/beauty.png
Hi there, beautiful.

More photos:


Monday July 6th - the date that Sunrise leaked in full.

Information about choreography and TA Members in the PVs:
Quote:

Ayu said in one message that almost 1000 people applied for participate in the PV's, but only 300 can be selected.

Also said that she has been doing a lot of dance rehearsals. The coreography of Sunrise PV is created by Zin, and the one for Sunset is created by Maro.
Ayu's comment regarding the creation of the song from Dandy Daddy's site:
Quote:

It's been a long since I've written a theme song for a TV drama, this time, to be able to receive this invitation (to write Sunrise), I feel really honored.

After reading the script and carefully understanding the feelings of the role played by -the male lead's name-, and through my own understanding, I have written these lyrics.

It's a song that gets everyone to be energized and happy, I hope everyone embraces this summer's memory, and look forward to this song.
- translated from Chinese by waterballoon

Snippet of the lyrics by ear:
Quote:

もっと大きな声で もっと大きな愛を
君に届くよにいつも胸に響かせたい
もっと大きな声で もっと大きな愛を叫ぶから

Rough general translation/romaji of the lyrics from an amazing friend:
The love is being carried to the other person through their voice.
And it resounds in their heart.
And that growing love will call out through that voice.

motto ooki na koe de motto ooki na ai wo
kimi ni todoku yo ni itsumo mune ni hibikasetai
motto ooki na koe de motto ooki na ai wo yobu kara

-lyricized translation-
Through this growing voice, this growing love
Will reach you and always resound in your heart
I'll call out this growing love through my growing voice

Translation from TakaSama:
"With a louder voice, a greater love
Will reach you
I always want it to ring in my heart
because a louder voice will bring forth greater love"


Links to previous threads:
New single Sunrise / Sunset ~LOVE is ALL~ 08/12/09
Sunrise / Sunset ~LOVE is ALL~ information summary [II]
Sunrise / Sunset ~LOVE is ALL~ information summary [III]
Sunrise / Sunset ~LOVE is ALL~ information and covers [IV]

truehappiness 18th July 2009 08:21 PM

Please avoid posting here until the other thread hits 500.

With that said: O HAI GUYS.
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2350/heyguys.pnghttp://img60.imageshack.us/img60/8601/heyguys1.png

maze 18th July 2009 08:41 PM

^ :lmfao


i still hating the covers D:
can't wait for ♪Sunset though lol.

Ayumi27 18th July 2009 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2027691)
Please avoid posting here until the other thread hits 500.

With that said: O HAI GUYS.
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2350/heyguys.pnghttp://img60.imageshack.us/img60/8601/heyguys1.png

LOL!
Those are epic
:laugh

Ayumiko 18th July 2009 08:56 PM

I'm surprised they haven't added the covers on the official website...but instead just updated the magazines. I'm still hoping they'll change the covers...but is there still time for that? there's not much time left.

JackieRos 18th July 2009 08:59 PM

the IV thread hasn't reached 500 post yet

dartsofpleasure 18th July 2009 09:12 PM

I looked at the covers again to see if I was overreacting.

I'm not :(

It somehow looks like her face was photoshopped on, doesn't it?

Blasterion 19th July 2009 12:53 AM

yes these are the covers I want!
much happier! ^^
and now I'll go back to posting in the other thread ;)

love in music 19th July 2009 02:15 AM

oh the other thread is full. god the threads go by fast.
i'm so impatient.. i want a preview of Sunset ASAP

happiholic★ 19th July 2009 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by identity (Post 2027993)
oh the other thread is full. god the threads go by fast.
i'm so impatient.. i want a preview of Sunset ASAP

Your set looks beautiful! I think the covers are nice. They provided you with a nice set.

Tony G 19th July 2009 02:21 AM

The more I look at those covers, the more I think they cannot be real.

naxxo.licious™ 19th July 2009 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2027691)
Please avoid posting here until the other thread hits 500.

With that said: O HAI GUYS.
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2350/heyguys.pnghttp://img60.imageshack.us/img60/8601/heyguys1.png

LMAOO!

Those are epic :laugh

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2350/heyguys.png http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5...xiestmanal.jpg

"OH, HAI HUGHH 8D! <333!


Lee^ChaN 19th July 2009 02:32 AM

^ :roflmao
i'm still hoping that's it's not the covers..

love in music 19th July 2009 02:42 AM

it's official that they are since someone said they're back up on TA. they'll probably show up on the official website soon. :yes

Quote:

Your set looks beautiful! I think the covers are nice. They provided you with a nice set.
thanks to ownsarai :D i think he/she did a wonderful job on their set with the pictures too.

happiholic★ 19th July 2009 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by identity (Post 2028006)
it's official that they are since someone said they're back up on TA. they'll probably show up on the official website soon. :yes



thanks to ownsarai :D i think he/she did a wonderful job on their set with the pictures too.

I think I may have ownsarai do my next set, then.

I wonder what TeamAyu fans think of the covers. Are they allowed to comment on them?

Mirrorcle 19th July 2009 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love Shine (Post 2028017)
I think I may have ownsarai do my next set, then.

I wonder what TeamAyu fans think of the covers. Are they allowed to comment on them?

I'd hope so.
But, has Ayu ever taken her fans opinions on something and then changed it? (A real question, I'm curious, (: )

Bigtop 19th July 2009 03:17 AM

Those covers, I think, may be some preliminary information...

Chef+Vanny 19th July 2009 03:32 AM

until that Day...the single is released,I would hang on to the small glimpse of hope that they will change the cover :rolleyes

RikkuChii 19th July 2009 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naxxo.licious™ (Post 2027997)

:roflmao

MissElin_ 19th July 2009 03:42 AM

Wow the covers comming out made a new thread on just one day? Crazy!

And yes I'm still in love with the covers. :heart

Melon Panda 19th July 2009 03:53 AM

She's had so many great covers in the past - what happened now? :(

bluegie 19th July 2009 04:10 AM

Probly she begins to think (or has already thought) that she doesn't need creative covers anymore. OR, maybe she's taking a tolerance test.. to see how long she can stand the annoyance of that guy... :P If that's the case I must say she will get the A+ for the test...

dreamland2.0 19th July 2009 04:11 AM

I think it could be that her face looks a bit distorted with these small images so I really am quite curious to see HQ images!

ayuqq 19th July 2009 04:20 AM

it's horrible for me..-_-
the bg is so fake and her expressions are weird!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
though the body is great..

truehappiness 19th July 2009 04:23 AM

For anyone who is wondering what she's saying in Sunrise, hanabiwings did a nice quick translation of the lyrics. They're so sweet, and I think people should know of them until masa gets to it.. I'm putting them in the first post.

Quote:

Come a little closer... Try believing a little more...

I know there were tears glistening on your cheeks
Until just a moment ago, on that smiling face
That I love best when you're smiling innocently
I won't say it's easy to show me the real you
But I have confidence I can accept this side of you, too

Hey now, in a louder voice
I wanna present you with a bigger love
I wanna make it resound in your heart
Hey now, in a louder voice
If I shout for a bigger love
I wonder if it'll reach you just a little
The long way around is just right
Cause I know we can understand one another

I get the feeling I can more or less imagine what you wanna say
Just when I think I'm facing things, I'm running away
If I say I'm not afraid, honestly it's a lie, you see
<Next line is incomprehensible to me; can't make out what she's saying>
[I've prepared for whatever may come]

Come a little closer... Try believing a little more...

You can hear this shaky, wavering pulse of mine so
I want you to come a little closer, to try believing a little more
Listen carefully to your heart
Reassuring one another has come to an end
Because we know we feel the same way about each other

We're not perfect or anything
Because we're human, my dear
But that's just fine--I really think so
Those are the parts of us that make us lovable

Hey now, in a louder voice
I wanna present you with a bigger love
I wanna make it resound in your heart
Hey now, in a louder voice
I wanna shout for a bigger love
I wonder if you felt it just a little
It's just right if we take the long way around
I'm certain we can understand one another

ALPHY 19th July 2009 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naxxo.licious™ (Post 2027997)

Mmm, mmm!

SURREAL__RAINBOW 19th July 2009 04:34 AM

omg don't tell me that the same guy from GREEN's pv made this covers?? XD

AyUta 19th July 2009 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2028089)
For anyone who is wondering what she's saying in Sunrise, hanabiwings did a nice quick translation of the lyrics. They're so sweet, and I think people should know of them until masa gets to it.. I'm putting them in the first post.

Ah, thanks to you and hanabiwings. :) They're nice.

rakeru 19th July 2009 04:39 AM

thanks for the lyrics! they're really sweet, and i like the song even more now!

Naomi_Mikazuki 19th July 2009 04:43 AM

Quote:

real fans have an opinion. not stans. I don't like these covers. and no I am a fan just because I don't like some of her songs, and I don't like some over her single/album covers. if anything you're the one who believes we must like these covers. none of us have to like anything she does if we don't want to. She's done much much better single covers. and excuse us if we don't happen to like something she does. so what if a couple of us blow it out of proportion a little? so what if some of us hate the covers?

We either have an opinion about something as indifferent or extreme as it may be. or we go like the story of michael jackson and become such die hard fans that support absolutely everything she does that we commit suicide when she dies.
Re-read my post.~ I said it was fine if you didn't like the covers. But I find it absolutely ridiculous to think that these are by far the worst of her career. Isn't that exaggerating a bit..? (Seriously, STEP you...? Yeah...) Of course she's done far better covers countless times before, but these aren't her worst by any means.
I'm not saying you have to like every single thing she does in order to be a fan. That would be silly. But to start not only bashing the covers, and then not just the fans who like the covers, but then Ayu herself..? Calling her senseless? That she's ridiculous and practically moronic for letting these covers go through? These are HER covers. For whatever reasons, she liked them enough to share them with her fans. And obviously not every fan hates them. So she couldn't have made a completely wrong choice.

Quote:

Holy crap I just saw the 'you are just an embarrassment to the true fans' line. What a complete biased moron.
Excuse me, but I think you need to go look up "biased" in the dictionary, because there isn't a single statement in my post that makes me biased... But aside from that nonsense...
I was speaking to the people who like the song(s) on the single, who wanted to support Ayu and were determined to buy the single, but then decided completely against ever buying it, simply because of the covers. Yes. That it flat out stupid. Sure, a big part of the singles is the covers, but it's certainly not all. The main part is, obviously, the songs, right? And I don't know about you, but the main reason I buy anything from an artist, album or single or whatever, is to support them. Because that's what a fan is, duh. So if you like the artist and the song on the single/album, yet you refuse to buy it and support them merely because you don't like the freakin' cover, then no, you aren't a true fan. I know if I were an artist and found out that my "fans" refused to buy any of my work simply because I didn't make perfect covers, I would be extremely irritated.

vampireknightzero 19th July 2009 04:44 AM

thx for the lyrics translations

Ayumi_lover 19th July 2009 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2028100)
omg don't tell me that the same guy from GREEN's pv made this covers?? XD

That was him:grumpy

SURREAL__RAINBOW 19th July 2009 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayumi_lover (Post 2028121)
That was him:grumpy

OH MY GOD :curse:curse:curse

he is destroying her career! seriously WTH he's turning her into a tranny wanna be

after A BEST 2 she should've kicked him

omg :thud

k21sh3n 19th July 2009 04:53 AM

ah..that's a very nice lyric.. thank you~

hanabiwings 19th July 2009 05:04 AM

Ah, thanks. As I said, it was just a translation I did while listening to the lyrics. There are some parts I don't think I could express well in English, especially in the first stanza. Because she uses a lot of relative clauses, some of which English will not accept (it's a syntax problem). I was thinking of ways to split them up into different phrases. We'll see how Masa interprets them.

A more literal translation of the first stanza looks like this:

無邪気に笑う僕の大好きなその笑顔についさっきまで 涙が君の頬で光っていた事を知っているよ
ありのままを見せてとかなんて簡単に言わないけど こんな君を見ちゃっても受け止めて行ける自 信があるし

Smiles innocently, That smile I love, until a just a moment ago, Tears glistened on your cheeks, I know
Show your real self, such things, I won't easily say it but, Even seeing this side of you, I am confident I can accept it

As you can see, she has described the person's smile using several relative clauses and a complementizer clause. So I tried to present it more naturally in English. English will not easily allow several relative clauses on the same noun as Japanese does. But I will redo this translation and post a better one later on.

Also, I took quite a liberty during some of it, especially when I wrote "my dear" on one of the lines. She says in Japanese, "なんだもん", which doesn't translate as anything particularly. It is an ending for emphasis, kind of giving her view of the reason for why "we aren't perfect." It sounds really cute and like she's speaking to someone directly. Like "Hey--you know we're not perfect. It's that we're human, you know?!" So I put "my dear" to convey that kind of 'cute' stance she has there. But I may change it if I redo this translation. It's a delicate balance between making it natural and trying to keep the original nuances.

When I was studying translation more, I always said that we should translate as directly as possible, but I don't know if I believe that any longer. It's better to try to capture the feeling of the original but kind of 'import' it into the target language. In this case, English. That's my feeling now. Anyway, thank you for looking at my poor translation. ^^*

I hope that people who didn't know how they felt about this song at the beginning will take another listen and glance over this interpretation to see what kinds of things Ayu is singing. I think it's a very hopeful song. It's the kind of song that she sings that gives me 'genki' to keep going and believing in love and humanity. Because we're not perfect and we can't be natural all the time. But we just keep going because that's what makes us lovable. I really think so. I think she communicates it very well!

y_nathz 19th July 2009 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2027691)
Please avoid posting here until the other thread hits 500.

With that said: O HAI GUYS.
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2350/heyguys.pnghttp://img60.imageshack.us/img60/8601/heyguys1.png

if Ayu see those maybe she want to change the covers ~ lol XD

AyUmIXx 19th July 2009 05:08 AM

i just cancelled to buy Japan version because of the covers *sorry Ayu*
but i'll think of buying the OS version though~
i still love the song, but not the cover..
i don't know why, i feel like laughing out loud whenever i saw the CD Only pic..
oh my..Ayu's expression looks just like she wants something but somebody doesn't give her~ she just looks pity there~ still cute though...

truehappiness 19th July 2009 05:13 AM

Quote:

I think it's a very hopeful song. It's the kind of song that she sings that gives me 'genki' to keep going and believing in love and humanity. Because we're not perfect and we can't be natural all the time. But we just keep going because that's what makes us lovable. I really think so. I think she communicates it very well!
I completely agree. I love the lyrics and how sweet they are! Despite our humanity, we still push on and have happy times with one another. It's very nice how she put it all! I believe these were written by her on a plane? Or maybe I'm thinking of some other lyrics like NEXT LEVEL. But regardless of that, the message that she conveys is rather 'warm' and fits the ~LOVE is ALL~ subtitle perfectly.

Bigtop 19th July 2009 05:38 AM

I'm just wondering - is there any artists who will release any singles and/or albums on the same day Ayu's single release? And is there any artist that could be a threat to Ayu among single releases?

catcher_inthelight 19th July 2009 05:41 AM

First of all to the people complaining about the GREEN PV Shut Up!! If you had ANY taste you could appreciate such modern interpretation of classic iconic stage and dance work from the 30's/40's.
HARDLY something to ruin someones career off of!
(I'm sorry if this offends) but I'm SICK AND TIRED of people bashing that PV!
*Do it again and I WILL have your head* DON'T tempt me!
Second! I don't care WHO likes the new single covers!
They are GOD awful and I DON'T NEED to wait for them to be practically POSTER size before some tiny hamster who was tired of running on the wheel aka your sorry excuse for a brain says....GEE they really ARE BAD!!
*End of discussion*
You may close this thread now....
P.S.I can wait until the single ACTUALLY comes out instead of sucking up BANDWIDTH whilst the noobs complain about ALL the things "AYU" does... b/c...(y'know..... she just does EVERYTHING YOU FREAKING SEE!) *not*
THANK YOU! and GOOD NIGHT!!!
P.P.S To stop the Smarty pants
who feel they need to be justified in their opinions that are WRONG
and actively seek out my other posts to say I've done the same
and find what I wrote in thread IV (I believe it was)
just know its the ONLY thing I've complained about from Ayu! So
Save yourself some time why dont ya!
I know your thinking capacities are limited so I saved you the trouble
I may have disagreed on some decisions she has made in the past about covers and what have you
but nothing as horrendous and appalling as these covers has surfaced in her ENTIRE CAREER! HANDS DOWN!
(and yes noobs that INCLUDES the horrible MAG photo shoots she's done!)
At THIS STAGE in her career its unprofessional and juvenile AT BEST!
I expected better of her decision making! (I'll have to reconsider)....
...now....run along and don't bother me or I WILL EAT YOU ALIVE!
K thanx Bye!! ^_^*

Kingdom 19th July 2009 05:48 AM

i agree, the green pv is horrible! she looked a mess in it and i can't even watch it now :laugh the days pv was a lot better!

i still hate the covers.. i have them adblocked even :yes i will use one of the cute fan-made covers for itunes when the single is out!

do it again 19th July 2009 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catcher_inthelight (Post 2028174)
First of all to the people complaining about the GREEN PV Shut Up!! If you had ANY taste you could appreciate such modern interpretation of classic iconic stage and dance work from the 30's/40's. HARDLY something to ruin someones career off of! (I'm sorry if this offends) but I'm SICK AND TIRED of people bashing that PV! *Do it again and I WILL have your head* DON'T tempt me! Second! I don't care WHO likes the new single covers! They are GOD awful and I DON'T NEED to wait for them to be practically POSTER size before some tiny hamster who was tired of running on the wheel in my brain says....GEE they really ARE BAD!! *End of discussion*
You may close this thread now....
P.S.I can wait until the single ACTUALLY comes out instead of sucking up BANDWIDTH whilst the noobs complain about ALL the things "AYU" does... b/c...(y'know..... she just does EVERYTHING YOU FREAKING SEE!) *not*
THANK YOU! and GOOD NIGHT!!!
P.P.S To stop the Smarty pants who feel they need to be justified in their opinions that are WRONG and actively seek out my other posts to say I've done the same and find what I wrote in thread IV (I believe it was) just know its the ONLY thing I've complained about from Ayu! I may have disagreed on some decisions she has made in the past about covers and what have you but nothing as horrendous and appalling as these covers has surfaced in her ENTIRE CAREER! HANDS DOWN! (and yes noobs that INCLUDES the horrible MAG photoshoots she's done!) at THIS STAGE in her career its unprofessional and juvenile AT BEST! I expected better of her decision making... now....run along and don't bother me or I WILL EAT YOU ALIVE!
K thanx Bye!! ^_^*

someone needs a xanax...:innocent

i do agree that the GREEN PV is visually stunning, though. the only thing that bothers me is the out of sync dancing. i know she's not a dancer but they could've practiced a bit more.

do her singles contain booklets with pictures or is it usually all lyrics? there might be some prettier pictures inside.

emi♡ 19th July 2009 05:54 AM

:laugh

oh damn...drama in here...I have to go and read the pages now...

I think her singles are usually just lyrics...with maybe ONE picture inside...like Blue Bird I think had a picture inside.

do it again 19th July 2009 05:55 AM

it's just more of the same... entertaining though. i get a kick out of reading this and the previous thread. although it's annoying when i'm trying to catch up and i get the AHS is temporarily unavailable screen.

truehappiness 19th July 2009 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2028173)
I'm just wondering - is there any artists who will release any singles and/or albums on the same day Ayu's single release? And is there any artist that could be a threat to Ayu among single releases?

No one is a threat, thankfully, haha.

There's like Morning Musume's 40th single, but they generally sell 50k~ first week.

08/12 浜崎あゆみ(+DVD/ドラマ)、モーニング娘。(4種/+DVD)、NICO Touches the Walls(+DVD/3種/アニメ/映画)、高見沢俊彦(3種/アニメ/ゲーム)、supercell(アニメ)、BENI、
    Crystal Kay(ft.BoA)、秦基博(+DVD)、アンティック-珈琲店-(3種/+DVD/AL-4)、DEATH DEVIL(アニメ)、福田沙紀(+DVD/ドラマ)、MARIA(アニメ)、KEN THE 390、YAK.(+DVD)

I hope NICO does well though, and supercell. I'll be trying to get the Ayu, MoMusu, and supercell singles!

Quote:

I think her singles are usually just lyrics...with maybe ONE picture inside...like Blue Bird I think had a picture inside.
It's lyrics + 3 photos blended together generally. But sometimes there are no extra photos, sadly.

emi♡ 19th July 2009 06:00 AM

oh man, that post is epic :laugh

I like can't even read it properly because I'm trying to get the right voice for it in my head and it's all crazy. I'm gonna select some famous quotes:

"I DON'T NEED to wait for them to be practically POSTER size before some tiny hamster who was tired of running on the wheel in my brain says....GEE they really ARE BAD!! *End of discussion* "

"(I'm sorry if this offends) but I'm SICK AND TIRED of people bashing that PV! *Do it again and I WILL have your head"

"now....run along and don't bother me or I WILL EAT YOU ALIVE!"


and my favorite:

"If you had ANY taste you could appreciate such modern interpretation of classic iconic stage and dance work from the 30's/40's"

:roflmao :roflmao :roflmao :roflmao

*breathe* Okay. :)


@catcher: dude, calm down. Listen to the hampster running on the wheel in your brain. He's tired. Let him rest.

And stay away from my Juicy.

Meat Pao 19th July 2009 06:01 AM

The more I look at the covers, the more the "sea" in the cover looks like a blue blanket laid out behind Ayu LMAO

jimex289 19th July 2009 06:04 AM

I don't like the covers...I think they could have done a better job with it. It looks like they photoshopped her into a background with flowers in it. Maybe bigger covers would do it more justice but she looks kind of out of place to me.

LacusClyne 19th July 2009 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2028183)
No one is a threat, thankfully, haha.

There's like Morning Musume's 40th single, but they generally sell 50k~ first week.

08/12 浜崎あゆみ(+DVD/ドラマ)、モーニング娘。(4種/+DVD)、NICO Touches the Walls(+DVD/3種/アニメ/映画)、高見沢俊彦(3種/アニメ/ゲーム)、supercell(アニメ)、BENI、
    Crystal Kay(ft.BoA)、秦基博(+DVD)、アンティック-珈琲店-(3種/+DVD/AL-4)、DEATH DEVIL(アニメ)、福田沙紀(+DVD/ドラマ)、MARIA(アニメ)、KEN THE 390、YAK.(+DVD)

oh i see, those aren't competition for ayu at all.
hmm...アンティック-珈琲店-??? no wonder i have a feeling i forgot to order something.
*runs to order now*

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 19th July 2009 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catcher_inthelight (Post 2028206)
eh!! Dont worry Juicy I'm not going to kill ya!! ^_^* Also that pic is friggin Hilarious!

but SERIOUSLY PEOPLE enough GREEN PV bashing or there WILL be trouble and NO ONE will be able to save you....(not even the people who oversee and protect AHS!) ^_~* Love ya peeps!!

I don't care what you think! It sucks for me.

The scenes are choppy: you see her dressed in white, then red, then white again? wtf? and the camera shakes too much.

back on the single, the covers... eh. I'll make my own. Maybe even just zoom in on her face, slap some text, and voila!

naxxo.licious™ 19th July 2009 06:44 AM

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/6...rawhatever.gif



I'm completely over the covers discussion. Ayu has had worse covers in the past imo:

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/530/ayusumairu.jpg

Some of u guys need to chill out. AHS drama can be so lame rofl.

They're just covers for god's sake. Not buying a single just because of the covers only shows how much u cared for the songs.

I've seen much worse covers and people didn't complain as much as some of u do.

It's okay to not like the covers, but do u really need to keep bashing them over and over and over again? It's really boring =/.

*sighs*

WHATEVER....

Thank u so much for the lyrics. I'm loving them <3 I wonder what's the connection with Dandy Daddy. I guess i'll have to watch it to understand lol.

OT: nemesis, i still luv my Hugh Jackman :laugh.

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 19th July 2009 06:44 AM

^ hahaha!

keep on posting, I just can't get enough of your "wisdom"! lol

you should be ayu's spokeperson :D

SpiceSquad! 19th July 2009 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2027691)
Please avoid posting here until the other thread hits 500.

With that said: O HAI GUYS.
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2350/heyguys.pnghttp://img60.imageshack.us/img60/8601/heyguys1.png

:)) :)) :)) :)) :luv2

catcher_inthelight 19th July 2009 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2027691)
Please avoid posting here until the other thread hits 500.

With that said: O HAI GUYS.
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2350/heyguys.pnghttp://img60.imageshack.us/img60/8601/heyguys1.png

I think its better this way!! HAHA!! ROFL!!

Also more ROFL!! they actually spammyness-ed me for this comment WTF?? lol!!

(^ Love ya emiko! If I didnt breath there would be an explosion! And believe it or not that last post WASNT one of them! ^_^* TRUST ME you dont WANT to see me explode......)

It all in good clean ANGRY fun!! Everybody chillaxalate a little k!!?? GEEEEBUS!! ^_^*

RikkuChii 19th July 2009 07:05 AM

..Uhm...

..you're a little bipolar, aren't you?

hayasaki 19th July 2009 07:10 AM

Oh my GOD! I love the covers! The ocean is lovely... but, who's that girL?

oh, is that Ayu???

yeah! It's ayu! Why is she there? LOL

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 19th July 2009 07:10 AM

I wanna piss catcher inthelight off!

*pokes with stick*



The smily version of the covers STILL makes me lol!

polka-dot-jewel 19th July 2009 07:12 AM

lol People canceling their orders because of the cover... it's "NEXT LEVEL" all over again! (Or was it "Rule / Sparkle"? Maybe it was both... lol)

Seeing the covers doesn't change my opinion on the song. How could a picture change your opinion? It doesn't change the lyrics, change the beat, change Ayu's voice... a video might help you appreciate the song, maybe understand it better, but the cover... you can change it on your iPod, and if you buy the physical copy, you can switch out the cover if you desire.

I want to support Ayu all that I can, so I will be buying this single. At first, I didn't like the covers so much, but I've accepted that these ARE the covers, and there's nothing I can do to change it. I have started to grow on them, though. They certainly aren't my favorite covers, but they aren't the *****iest or plainest covers.

hayasaki 19th July 2009 07:17 AM

^ Perhaps the song itself is connected with the covers... Its not perfect... and that's what makes it LOVELY! <3 my lame theory. OMG. lol

SURREAL__RAINBOW 19th July 2009 07:18 AM

people canceling their preorder is just dumb (sorry, but its true)

u can't make decisions in life because of 2 stupid covers lol

RikkuChii 19th July 2009 07:25 AM

If I was buying the single, I wouldn't cancel my order just because the covers are fugly. That's stupid.

LacusClyne 19th July 2009 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2028271)
people canceling their preorder is just dumb (sorry, but its true)

u can't make decisions in life because of 2 stupid covers lol

i so agree with you.

i would understand if they cancel because they don't like the song or pv, but because of a cover???
at least wait till the pv is out to decide

yuki_unmei 19th July 2009 07:29 AM

Somwtimes the themes of the live performances seem to be more connected to the song than the pvs or the covers are.
I can't wait to see Sunrise performed~!

catcher_inthelight 19th July 2009 07:30 AM

@ Rikkuchii I'm not bi-polar! But I WILL stand up for what I think is right!
And I usually am so I don't have to worry ^_^* But I digress....

@Nippon If you cant see that ranting and raving I did was because I'm sick of ayu noobs complaining then your blind! BUT I still love you!! On a side note! YAY!!! A stick!!!! what am I a dog? >_>.....Next time come with a reason you would LIKE to piss me off instead of your poor attempts at it! I'm human, I get Angry, I move on, the world keeps on a' spinnin'! you obviously didn't move on! That's okay! I forgive you for your infantile nature!! ^_^* *kisses*

tokyoxjapanxfan 19th July 2009 07:32 AM

^yeah, canceling because of covers is really selfish. as if ayu can please everyone all the time. do i love the covers? not really. but being all "i don't like them so i'm canceling!!!!" is stupid. vogue's cover is ugly, evolution is sooo tacky, (m)u cd only is horrid, yet, they were still purchased by people.

i think this is just a case of people who think not buying it is making a statement. it's not. you obviously only like ayu for her image if you're only buying her things for the covers. lyrics, musical arrangement--those are things to not buy things over.

and as a side note: if you saw a cd with an AMAZING COVER, but the song was sucky, would you buy it? If it had an amazing cover but you have no idea what the song sounds like/who the artist is, would you buy it?

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 19th July 2009 07:37 AM

Oh...
Hope they will change the covers...
She really looks like shakira there... LOL

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 19th July 2009 07:45 AM

People should get their money's worth, and the covers are ultimetly part of the product, so it isn't selfish not to get them. It's personal taste.

bluegie 19th July 2009 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tokyoxjapanxfan (Post 2028281)
and as a side note: if you saw a cd with an AMAZING COVER, but the song was sucky, would you buy it? If it had an amazing cover but you have no idea what the song sounds like/who the artist is, would you buy it?

I never cancelled an album because of the cover.. but I did buy a cd with an amazing cover.. lol --> RAINBOW. Really, now I kinda like the album, but back then I bought the album simply because ayu looked stunning on the cover. Ahh you do bring back my old memory :).

SURREAL__RAINBOW 19th July 2009 07:46 AM

I'm sure if the pvs are good and sunset is good people will change their minds once again and decide to buy the single (pffft)

catcher_inthelight 19th July 2009 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tokyoxjapanxfan (Post 2028281)
^yeah, canceling because of covers is really selfish. as if ayu can please everyone all the time. do i love the covers? not really. but being all "i don't like them so i'm canceling!!!!" is stupid. vogue's cover is ugly, evolution is sooo tacky, (m)u cd only is horrid, yet, they were still purchased by people.

i think this is just a case of people who think not buying it is making a statement. it's not. you obviously only like ayu for her image if you're only buying her things for the covers. lyrics, musical arrangement--those are things to not buy things over.

and as a side note: if you saw a cd with an AMAZING COVER, but the song was sucky, would you buy it? If it had an amazing cover but you have no idea what the song sounds like/who the artist is, would you buy it?

Everything you said was excellent! I may think the covers are horrendous but to cancel my order JUST b/c of that!! Its the MUSIC that counts here people! Even IF the covers make your EYE BLEED!! @_@!

AyUmIXx 19th July 2009 07:52 AM

at least, i'm going to buy the OS version... is that selfish as well?
since Japan version is the way too expensive for me to buy, but with those covers... i just can't buy it.. at least i still support her to buy her original stuff even though i can't support her on Oricon chart...

it's people's rights of not to buy the single/album if the covers are not good.. i still love the song no matter what, but still... i don't want to pay so much for the covers like that... even though Ayu looks pretty hot there..sometimes we can be disappointed too..we can't always love all her works.. and i don't hate her because she has worse covers...

covers are one of the elements that also attract ppl to buy the singles/albums....there are many people who buy the singles/albums based on the covers even they have never heard the songs yet, if not why artists want to create covers??? why they want to have awesome concepts for their singles'/albums' covers, if covers don't matter??

*peace*

catcher_inthelight 19th July 2009 08:00 AM

^ your not wrong to cancel b/c its too expensive AND you don't like the covers! I was talking about people who cancel and intend to not buy it COMPLETELY!! Dont worry! your okay!! Well... ANY Jaejoong lover is okay in MY book!! :sdevil

naxxo.licious™ 19th July 2009 08:00 AM

@catcher_inthelight: Will u let it rest? Thank u :).

I'm getting sick of the capital letters.


Obviously a good cover always helps. I have bought stuff that is completely useless but looks awesome lol.

But, as i said before, canceling a single/album just for its cover is ridiculous. Especially when u can switch covers so easily. I did that with my dvd of the Little Mermaid :laugh. The cover used for latin america was hideous :lmfao

@AyUmIXx: i don't think buying the OS version is selfish at all. U are supporting the artist u like and that's what matters. Not all of us can afford japanese versions.

I'm glad u're not one of those who won't buy it at all "just for the covers".

Aisha_Angel 19th July 2009 08:02 AM

Well, I think I speak for any Ayu-fan affected by the new worldwide recession by saying:

If it isn't pretty, it ain't worth the $30 I have to pay just to have it!

If I'm gonna spend more than 20 bucks on something it sure as hell better look like it's worth EXACTLY what I paid for it. But I guess *wealthier* Ayu fans who get to pre-order whatever the hell they want don't understand the value of middle-class money these days.

With that being said, why buy something you don't like? If you don't like the first track off the single (leaving only TWO other songs, one of which is a MASHUP) and the cover looks like crap to you, why would a person even waste their money on it. Or rather, why should a person waste their money on it?

People say oh, you shouldn't cancel your preorders just because the cover doesn't look good to you, but you know what---You aren't them and they aren't you.

People have a mind of their own---they can do whatever the hell they want. If somebody wants to buy the new Ayu single and throw it straight into their fireplace because they think it's a piece of ****---guess what? It is theirs to DESTROY! The same goes for the collector who's just buying it to add to their collection of Ayu-merchendise. They'll treasure it as if it were Evolution ~part II~ anyway. It is theirs to TREASURE. If someone else wants to cancel their preorder because they don't want to do that overdramatic BS, guess what? It's their money to SAVE on something else they might want.

*sorries...*

Just had to get that off my chest tonight. All this fighting over Ayu is really bringing me back to AHS for all the wrong reasons...But hey, let's fight over Oompa-Ayu some more. ^_^

SURREAL__RAINBOW 19th July 2009 08:03 AM

is not about money, is about how weak can people be when its time to take a decision :rolleyes

emi♡ 19th July 2009 08:05 AM

well what if there were people who like, didn't like the song and were gonna buy it, just because they like ayu...

and then the covers came out, and they're this fugly, so they decided not to.

But I don't know...there are actually a lot of releases that I like just because of the covers...like Blue Bird. I don't really care about the single...I had it anyway.

Or Black Cherry...I just want to make nice scans.

Anyway...you never really know someone's motive for buying things...so...whatever.

Also, some people just don't really care about supporting Ayu. Not to mention the fact that a lot of our orders don't really count anyway.


I agree with Aisha Angel a bit. Japanese CDs are really expensive for me...I would be extremely turned off if the product was sub-par...which imo it is...but that's just my opinion.

To other people, it's worth it. To each his own.

AyUmIXx 19th July 2009 08:07 AM

.....and sometimes... i have some ayu's fans-friends who also don't buy the albums/singles just because they think their covers are bad, i never say they're stupid or whatever.. i just think they have the rights of not to buy it... it's their money they're thinking about.. so i guess there's nothing wrong with it..

i'll be angry if some ppl who are just because of covers don't like Ayu COMPETELY, quit of being her fans..that's worse than the ones who don't want to buy but still continue of being Ayu's fans.. (but still, we can't stop that too...., right?)

*piece again~* it's just all back to the individuals..it's their own money~~

AyumiBest 19th July 2009 08:09 AM

I expected the covers to look better but whatever I'll buy the single anyways.

naxxo.licious™ 19th July 2009 08:10 AM

@Aisha_Angel: i completely agree with u :yes.

But, what i meant is that i think it's stupid to not buy a single when u like the songs but don't like the covers.

Covers are just a plus imo.

And like i said, if u really don't like the covers u can always switch them.

As long as u like the songs and have the money to support that artist, i think covers shouldn't matter.

critter333294 19th July 2009 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2028301)
is not about money, is about how weak can people be when its time to take a decision :rolleyes

At the end of the day, the money is a huge factor. If someone doesn't like an aspect of a product, and they choose to not buy it, it doesn't mean that they have weak decision making skills. Especially now when lots of people simply don't have 30 dollars to spend on a CD when the money from it could be put towards something more important like a bill or food. It's their money and they will do what they want with it. I certainly wouldn't go and spend money on something if it didn't meet my expectations, just to satisfy the manufacturer or artist.

Lucky for me, my birthday is next week, and as a present, my friend is preordering the CD for me so I can get it once we get back to college. Also, I happen to like the covers and song, so that's a plus lol.

AyUmIXx 19th July 2009 08:16 AM

Aisha_Angel, i completely agree with you :)

i guess most ppl in AHS probably thinking of buying Japan version, but because it's very expensive... 2x more expensive from the OS version, so i guess covers are really matter to them...including me on this case.. but once they (and me) saw the covers, it's totally a disappointment... most of my friends who also thinking of buying Japan version have cancelled theirs too..and switching to buy the OS version one.. we also want to support Ayu at Oricon charts, but still... covers like that... =_____= *Sorry Ayu*

~X2RADialbomber~ 19th July 2009 08:24 AM

Buy it off iTunes if you don't like the cover.

emi♡ 19th July 2009 08:26 AM

^that is actually a really good idea.

truehappiness 19th July 2009 08:28 AM

I'll probably get it at Sanseido if I have a chance to get it! Might not count towards Oricon [why wouldn't it? Haha] but hey~ I really love the song! (will become songs when I hear Sunset probably)

Aisha_Angel 19th July 2009 08:37 AM

Sadly, Sunrise isn't worth 99-cents for me. ^_^; (And no, I didn't mean that as badly as it sounded...or did I?)

Plus, I just don't buy singles anyway unless they're special like Mirrorcle World and Namie's 60s70s80s (which BTW, I was disappointed by the lack of a REAL booklet with pictures).

---LMAO @ the English dub of Death Note. I <3 psychopathic Light!---

k21sh3n 19th July 2009 08:39 AM

I don't buy singles.. I collect only her album, books and concerts DVDs. I was actually planning to buy the OS version since well it's shot in Bali, but since the cover is quite a disappointment to me and the PV's not shot in Bali, I'm thinking of not buying it. I just think that I prefer to spend this money for sumthing on my priority list.

Actually I bought some singles like Starting/Born to be, Blue Bird, Never Ever and Endless Sorrow, simply because I love their cover

so I am the type of person who'll cancel the order because of the cover.. and I'm also the person who'll buy a CD basing only on beautiful/unique covers (even if I don't know a bit about the artist.. this actually 'introduce' me many great music eg. Hirai Ken, Sade Adu, Bliss, Faye Wong, Chris Yu, etc.. but this only happened back then when I was a student w/ extra pocket money..)

Being an Ayu's fan doesn't mean we have to 'eat up' exactly everything she/Avex is trying to feed us right? we have the option, not buying one of her single or album doesn't mean we no longer love her.. it's actually can give her some picture whether her fan-base love her works or not, what she could improve in order to be a better artist, etc..

well that's what I think..

FoObY 19th July 2009 08:40 AM

The collector in me will still want the Japan ver despite the tacky covers. I'm also nitpicky about the Overseas OBI having the Chinese translation of the single title. :no:no

catcher_inthelight 19th July 2009 08:45 AM

@ Naxxo-Licious What's your problem? I was agreeing with the guy!! And capital letters are used for expression! Next time I'll use italics to not offend your precious senses!

Christ!! what is everyone's problem! I make a some rants and every body gangs up on me for it!? I guess we won't look at the people who complain about EVERYTHING she does! .....cause y'know......I guess they spread it out!! Everyone stop being a bunch of Nazis and let me say my piece and be done with it! Just cause my posts were longer than yours and written snarky-er too ^_~* doesn't mean I wasn't over it when I was done writing it!

AyUmIXx 19th July 2009 08:49 AM

k21sh3n, I'm you...

i love ur last paragraph

Quote:

Being an Ayu's fan doesn't mean we have to 'eat up' exactly everything she/Avex is trying to feed us right? we have the option, not buying one of her single or album doesn't mean we no longer love her.. it's actually can give her some picture whether her fan-base love her works or not, what she could improve in order to be a better artist, etc..
it's just the same thing when ppl do business, they create products, and sell them, but if they don't meet the expectations of the customers, so the customers won't buy the products at all..

catcher_inthelight 19th July 2009 09:06 AM

^ thats very true and I agree with you both! But sadly my opinions arent liked around here so I wont say them much anymore! Not that I'll need to! something this bad only comes around once a career.

emi♡ 19th July 2009 09:16 AM

wth? dude, don't take it like really personally...but...

you just sound like a crazy person when you're stating your opinions/ranting.

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 19th July 2009 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catcher_inthelight (Post 2028342)
^ thats very true and I agree with you both! But sadly my opinions arent liked around here so I wont say them much anymore! Not that I'll need to! something this bad only comes around once a career.

shoving your opinion down everyone's throat is not going
to make you liked much.:o

naxxo.licious™ 19th July 2009 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catcher_inthelight (Post 2028332)
@ Naxxo-Licious What's your problem? I was agreeing with the guy!! And capital letters are used for expression! Next time I'll use italics to not offend your precious senses!

I was talking about your previous posts. Dude, u really need to chill out cause u're coming off as some kind of psycho and it's annoying.

U can perfectly defend your ideas in a more civilized way.

Nobody told u your posts are unnecessary, cause u, as any other member, have the right to say what u think.

Just try to do it in...a different way.

noidea 19th July 2009 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by emiko (Post 2028303)
well what if there were people who like, didn't like the song and were gonna buy it, just because they like ayu...

and then the covers came out, and they're this fugly, so they decided not to.

But I don't know...there are actually a lot of releases that I like just because of the covers...like Blue Bird. I don't really care about the single...I had it anyway.

Or Black Cherry...I just want to make nice scans.

Anyway...you never really know someone's motive for buying things...so...whatever.

Also, some people just don't really care about supporting Ayu. Not to mention the fact that a lot of our orders don't really count anyway.


I agree with Aisha Angel a bit. Japanese CDs are really expensive for me...I would be extremely turned off if the product was sub-par...which imo it is...but that's just my opinion.

To other people, it's worth it. To each his own.

thanks, finally somebody with peaceful opinion, which is IMO right as well, the single might have been dlightly over the line of "purchasing" and if something thats expected to be good turns out to be bad, it might fall under that line, we all know already that we probably can't expect anything from the PVs ... so the only hope for the people liking neither Sunrise nor the covers is sunset and even if that turns out to be good, it IMO isnt worth buying

Ayumi_lover 19th July 2009 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RikkuChii (Post 2028275)
If I was buying the single, I wouldn't cancel my order just because the covers are fugly. That's stupid.

I'm not buying it because I will get songs on album, PVs on Album's dvd and only reason for me to buy that was actually how it looks, it's appearance which is going to be awful

*still hope they will change the covers* PLEEEASE!!

~X2RADialbomber~ 19th July 2009 09:50 AM

Emiko is right. Japanese singles are so expensive. I have only bought one Ayumi Hamasaki single and that was Days/GREEN. :P It was perfect in every aspect. The whole single has to be perfect in order to persuade me to buy it.

catcher_inthelight 19th July 2009 10:00 AM

@ Everyone I'm sorry if I sound psycho to you cause I'm really not!
Jokes mentioning peoples brains being compared to hamster wheels and the like is meant as both food for thought and witty albeit snarky banter!
Just because I write caps for expression or mention things exploding doesn't make me any crazier or meaner or nastier than the next guy.

I would also love to bring up the fact that some people actually GOT ME at first like emiko! Only to turn around and say I'm crazy but whatever.....

When I say things like...Do you WANT to die?? You cant REALLY think I'm being serious!
It's actually kinda odd! I'm the one having long rants about stuff but actually I'm being more chill about whats being said then the people reading it! Also (and this is only directed at SOME of you). Opinions (such that they are) are ALWAYS subjective and if its my OPINION to be right in the case of the GREEN PV *for example* I'm not shoving it down your throats! What I AM doing is giving BETTER arguments to substantiate said opinions (this is fact) and therefore you *think* I force/shove my opinions unto you! aka *down your throat*
So I'll reiterate and say I really never rant but I'm passionate about these two subjects in particular! and so I'm gonna say what I say just as you do! And I'm not going to change or rant differently because honestly I don't do it enough to
A. Warrant a change or
B.Suit your tastes so YOU feel better!
So ya'll go that way! I'll go this way!
And really...... were some of those comments necessary?
You only embarrass yourself (you know who you are) all others who told me how they felt clearly I applaud you! *chow*

maze 19th July 2009 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by naxxo.licious™ (Post 2028234)

OH GOD! that made my day.. :cry

SCARYYYY!!!!! :weep :weep :weep :weep :weep

YuriChan 19th July 2009 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catcher_inthelight (Post 2028376)
@ Everyone I'm sorry if I sound psycho to you cause I'm really not!
Jokes mentioning peoples brains being compared to hamster wheels and the like is meant as both food for thought and witty albeit snarky banter!
Just because I write caps for expression or mention things exploding doesn't make me any crazier or meaner or nastier than the next guy.

I would also love to bring up the fact that some people actually GOT ME at first like emiko! Only to turn around and say I'm crazy but whatever.....

When I say things like...Do you WANT to die?? You cant REALLY think I'm being serious!
It's actually kinda odd! I'm the one having long rants about stuff but actually I'm being more chill about whats being said then the people reading it! Also (and this is only directed at SOME of you). Opinions (such that they are) are ALWAYS subjective and if its my OPINION to be right in the case of the GREEN PV *for example* I'm not shoving it down your throats! What I AM doing is giving BETTER arguments to substantiate said opinions (this is fact) and therefore you *think* I force/shove my opinions unto you! aka *down your throat*
So I'll reiterate and say I really never rant but I'm passionate about these two subjects in particular! and so I'm gonna say what I say just as you do! And I'm not going to change or rant differently because honestly I don't do it enough to
A. Warrant a change or
B.Suit your tastes so YOU feel better!
So ya'll go that way! I'll go this way!
And really...... were some of those comments necessary?
You only embarrass yourself (you know who you are) all others who told me how they felt clearly I applaud you! *chow*

:no Dude... Take a chill pill and GTFO. :D (Sorry to sound mean, but your rants are getting on my nerves! :eviltongu)

love in music 19th July 2009 10:14 AM

whatever. i'm totally guilty of not buying singles/albums bc i didn't like their covers. with her last covers i think it was cool because she had like 3-4 versions with different covers, more of a chance for there to be one someone liked. (honestly i'm so glad there were 3 versions of R/S as i only loved one of the covers) but i admit it's stupid to buy something just for the cover, even though i do it sometimes. it's peoples money.. they can do whatever. personally i'm buying the CD+DVD because i like the cover more, and it'll have the PV's and songs.. i'm getting the best of both worlds, like our good friend hannah montana. i just like whatever i buy to be worth it in all aspects :yes


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