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ayu_ready? 27th July 2009 12:31 PM

so, Ayu DOES smoke?
 
as quoted from one of recent posts, translated to English

Quote:

After this, I had a cigarette in celebration, but because of that, inside this Momi-girl's throat, it was like BAM and it became hard to breathe. So I stopped smoking the cigarette.
I was sure to put the cigarettes somewhere far away from me.
I'm starting to rethink that decision.
or did I miss smth? I remember hard debates about her smoking or not smoking, and some photos shown, but yet we didn't know the truth so

I actually don't mind her smoking at all! just interested :lech

pommy48 27th July 2009 12:32 PM

I thought it would be weird the first time you smoke, so that's why it make it hard to breathe? Or maybe ayu haven't had a cigarette in such a long time that she's not used to it?

xLuna&1LOVE 27th July 2009 12:35 PM

Soooo....? Smoking is fine.

KarenPang 27th July 2009 12:35 PM

I don't know , there were reports of her in the past that she does smoke & etc

a lot of artistes I support , they also do it & frankly it's their own decision to do so & I'm not in a position to say that they're right/wrong to do it but obviously at the end of the day , the fans for any artiste want it to be at their best interest & to snub the habit altogether

Meat Pao 27th July 2009 12:36 PM

That's right! Now the truth is out everybody can stop arguing about it :) Besides it's not like she smokes all the time anyway.

ayuayu798 27th July 2009 12:38 PM

I'm not if she does or not, but she doesn't seem like someone who smokes to me...

Edit- In her blog for 7/21/09 she said she was trying not to smoke too much.

jbrat2219 27th July 2009 12:51 PM

I don't care if she smokes as long as it doesn't destroy her voice.

AyuHamasaki01 27th July 2009 12:53 PM

who cares? as long as she keeps making (good) music ... :shrug

Sandre 27th July 2009 01:03 PM

Haha, I never know Ayu is smoking.
Better don't smoke. Not that good anyway.

Linoa62 27th July 2009 01:37 PM

As I said in the other topic it seems that message from 07/21 didn't deal with her smoking at all, the excerpt mentioned has been translated differently by ayuangel, but I can't tell which one is real since I don't know japanese at all ^^ :

http://ayuangel.com/images/news/diar...2009%20(1).jpg
"Then, I don't know if I sucked too much on my drinking straw, but my tea just got right deep inside my throat and I started to suffocate.
So I put it slowly far away from me.
And I came back to my senses"

Otherwise even if she smokes it's no big deal it's her problem XD

chestergringo 27th July 2009 01:39 PM

I don't know, but think that yes.

Chef+Vanny 27th July 2009 01:43 PM

though I don't really like people smoking
its Ayu herself,its her own choice

Lanz16 27th July 2009 02:03 PM

As far as I can remember, she said once on one of her TA message entry that she will stop smoking for a reason.

And yes, it was conFIRMed.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 27th July 2009 02:18 PM

I personally hate smoking, but if she does it... uhmm, is her body after all. she decides what to do to herself etc
is not like "good for her that she smokes" anyway... but yea, I believe that singers shouldn't smoke.

douggn 27th July 2009 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luna62 (Post 2038845)
As I said in the other topic it seems that message from 07/21 didn't deal with her smoking at all, the excerpt mentioned has been translated differently by ayuangel, but I can't tell which one is real since I don't know japanese at all ^^ :

"Then, I don't know if I sucked too much on my drinking straw, but my tea just got right deep inside my throat and I started to suffocate.
So I put it slowly far away from me.
And I came back to my senses"

That sounds more like something she would say or talk about, though I don't care if she smokes or not

waterballoon 27th July 2009 02:45 PM

It's fine with me, whether she smokes or not. She's not a compulsive smoker, so it's fine with me!

tehxiinae 27th July 2009 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xLuna&1LOVE (Post 2038785)
Soooo....? Smoking is fine.


LOL "Smoking is fine" I think what you mean to say is that her smoking is fine with you...cus obviously smoking isn't fine, it can cause all sorts of problems and complications.

Polyrhythm 27th July 2009 04:41 PM

She does? Really? @_@ I really hate smokers. Well at least she's trying to do it less. Maybe she'll do an Obama and quit totally.

truehappiness 27th July 2009 04:42 PM

Sounds like Deli might've mistranslated it? Hm..

ayu_fantasy 27th July 2009 05:14 PM

It will cause health problems.... I guess the translations might be wrong, there's a bubble tea pic above that chunk of text.... Even if she DOES smoke, i don't think she will admit it openly in her blog.... (privacy purposes)

zellyx 27th July 2009 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEEP RIVER (Post 2038964)
She does? Really? @_@ I really hate smokers. Well at least she's trying to do it less. Maybe she'll do an Obama and quit totally.


I hope so!
It's not like she's a rabid smoker, or we'd probably see some evidence in making of PVs or backstage if it was that bad.
I don't like smokers either (I don't hate them! I'd just rather they didn't smoke). Maybe it's because my relatives smoke ALL the time... I can't stand the smell!
I hope Ayu doesn't become addicted. :no

C+R+E+AYUMI 27th July 2009 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanz16 (Post 2038863)
As far as I can remember, she said once on one of her TA message entry that she will stop smoking for a reason.

And yes, it was conFIRMed.

someone can quote that team message?
honestly i never knew Ayu smoked. she doesn't seem the kind of smoker, and really never see a pic with ayu smoking!
(although i don't seem too but i smoke)

Kazeyomi 27th July 2009 05:31 PM

Ugh.
I don't like smoking, is unhealthy and I hate the smell of cigarettes x_x but.. I respect others choices.
So, I don't care.

Andrenekoi 27th July 2009 05:46 PM

Let me discover
*calls ayu's number*
Hi Ayu! It's Andrenekoi here! From AHS! We are wondering on the forum if you smokes... Ayu? Ayu?! o_O
--

She said "Stop calling me, ur freak! I'm not ur friend and I'm tired of these damn stalkers!"

;-;

Chibi_Venus 27th July 2009 06:04 PM

^ :laugh

Well, I'm going to be among the few that says who cares if she smokes? :P But if she's trying to stop, good for her. :) She must know what a disgusting habit it can become...

naxxo.licious™ 27th July 2009 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by douggn (Post 2038871)
That sounds more like something she would say or talk about, though I don't care if she smokes or not

I completely agree. I think that message might've have been mistranslated. It's more probable that she was just talking about that straw than cigarettes.
Ayu always writes about the most random stuff. I swear she could write a whole message about her pencil sharpener or w/e lol.

Anyways, even if she does smoke, i couldn't care less tbh. I smoke too, so, who am i to judge her?

Sundae 27th July 2009 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2038798)
I don't care if she smokes as long as it doesn't destroy her voice.

Smoking does mess around with your voice. Her voice is a lot more deeper now than it was when she debuted. I always assumed it was due to her crazy schedule so she couldn't rest her voice like she should. Smoking would contribute to that.

chloeM 27th July 2009 06:40 PM

but since she quit it... no point of having a debate here~

AyUta 27th July 2009 07:07 PM

Well if she does, and she's trying to quit, then I'm happy to hear that. It's her choice if she wants to smoke or not. I'd rather her not though, because her vocal chords will slowly start to go out on her. There's already evidence that she has(listen to her talking voice now lol), and it's been confirmed. I just don't want her to make it worse for herself.

(miss)understood 27th July 2009 07:18 PM

I'm sure Ayu has had her fair share of cigarettes.
whether or not she does them currently, nobody will really know except the people who know her personally in her day-to-day life.

However, I would think that Ayu is really focusing hard on improving her voice's quality (or at least keep it intact), especially since the 13 yen drop in the avex market ever since the news of her ear.

I can tell a huge difference in her lives recently, she sounds very similar to the song recording, not like she is "wingin' it," like she used to (RAINBOW era)

I wouldn't be surprised if Ayu drank anywhere from ten to one hundred times as often as she smokes. Or if she dropped acid from time to time, or rolled ecstasy or hell, smoked pot.

aurinko. 27th July 2009 07:32 PM

there are pictures of her somoking, somewhere from my story era, so it's pretty much confirmed... she drinks too. but as far as I know she tries to do it less often. what's wrong with smoking or drinking a toast from time to time?

and even if she was smoking&drinking often why would you care?

Lanz16 27th July 2009 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_fantasy (Post 2038988)
It will cause health problems.... I guess the translations might be wrong, there's a bubble tea pic above that chunk of text.... Even if she DOES smoke, i don't think she will admit it openly in her blog.... (privacy purposes)

I think you're right.
Its a privacy matter.

emi♡ 27th July 2009 08:24 PM

I was wondering when this would come up again.

Mistranslation seems odd.

It's equally plausible that she smokes :shrug We already knew that. Who cares.

I guess it's more a question of how much? But I don't know...in my elitist world any smoking is totally disgusting, so I don't really care how much she smokes, only that, I hope she's smart enough not to be dependent on it, which I don't think she is.

octolina 27th July 2009 08:25 PM

Kind of obvious to me.

Why people in this forum have such a bad stigma about smokers/smoking? Sure it's unhealthy but everyone knows.

In the real world, people do things that are bad for health but FEEL good.

And she is Japanese... so many casual smokers.

Kingdom 27th July 2009 08:57 PM

someone has posted a picture of ayu smoking before when she was out at dinner (?) with her friends.

who cares.

mcluva420 27th July 2009 09:04 PM

she proved it herself. she just smoked :P

ストロボ・EdGE 27th July 2009 09:07 PM

Just because she smoked in that instant doesn't mean its a habit, right? I mean, a lot of people just have a smoke once in a while, I'm assuming more so in Japan cause so many people there smoke. I wouldn't really care if she did though.

Doesn't Koda Kumi smoke? That might explain her slightly husky voice though. It suits her though, her voice, its sexy.

jbrat2219 27th July 2009 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae (Post 2039051)
Smoking does mess around with your voice. Her voice is a lot more deeper now than it was when she debuted. I always assumed it was due to her crazy schedule so she couldn't rest her voice like she should. Smoking would contribute to that.

Then she should stop. To be honest, I don't think she's a habitual smoker to get to the point it would really mess up her voice. Celebrities who smoke habitually often are caught smoking more than once or twice.

JackieRos 27th July 2009 09:24 PM

oh lord not this again ugh
if she smokes so what

remember this is no right and wrong answer no one knows just ayu
so quit assuming

aqua_crystal 27th July 2009 09:25 PM

So she really did smoke? That's no biggy,,, but at least she stopped :yes (Gah! So many of my fav artists smoke, it's not cool!)

kirei_ayumi 27th July 2009 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2038798)
I don't care if she smokes as long as it doesn't destroy her voice.

exactly.

Embleu 27th July 2009 11:14 PM

I certainly hope she doesn't smoke, as smoking kills and death is not very beneficial to one's career (unless one is Michael Jackson).

Bigtop 27th July 2009 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanz16 (Post 2038863)
As far as I can remember, she said once on one of her TA message entry that she will stop smoking for a reason.

And yes, it was conFIRMed.

Yep - she'd better stop now, experts say it's really bad, and it's not really good if you're a serious singer...

By the way, what message number is this, and could someone get a translation if available?

And by the way, although this is off, I'm not sure about this, but I think Ayaka Iida does not smoke - does anybody confirm about this?

Kingdom 27th July 2009 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE (Post 2039209)
Doesn't Koda Kumi smoke? That might explain her slightly husky voice though. It suits her though, her voice, its sexy.

no, kuu has stated that she doesn't smoke and she rarely drinks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Embleu (Post 2039335)
death is not very beneficial to one's career (unless one is Michael Jackson).

lol wow.

yuki_unmei 28th July 2009 12:07 AM

It seems like she only smokes on rare occasions. :shrug
I think she drinks more often than she smokes.

zoomzoom 28th July 2009 12:09 AM

This whole discussion seems to be based on a mistranslation. I'll leave it closed for now.


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