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I Am... Aaron 17th August 2009 12:12 AM

WTH is Avex's problem? STILL no Ayu on Blu-Ray?!
 
This is so frustrating to me. 2009 is more than half way over and Avex still hasn't released a single Blu-Ray for Ayumi? What is their problem?! :eviltongu

Can someone fill me in? I have a theory but I want to hear some responses before I share hat I think. It makes me really disappointed though for sure. :(

AyUta 17th August 2009 12:16 AM

this should be moved to the ayu chatroom. a mod will move it for you :).

um...well, if memory serves me correctly, hardly, if any artists, have anything in blu-ray :shrug

namie is barely coming out with one...

zyoeru 17th August 2009 12:19 AM

Er...blueray is expensive technology, most of us are happy enough with DVDs...that's why. :P
I don't know anyone who has a blueray player on their computer, or a blueray DVD player. :P

do it again 17th August 2009 12:22 AM

who else is releasing blu-ray besides namie... for the first time?

Chibi_Venus 17th August 2009 12:35 AM

I'm sure once regular DVDs and their format become obsolete, avex will start releasing Ayu DVDs (at least the concerts) in Blu-ray format. :P

SunshineSlayer 17th August 2009 12:56 AM

I'm not sure how popular blue ray is in Japan. Them releasing Namie's tour may be a test to see if releasing blue ray is even worth it sales wise.

pommy48 17th August 2009 01:18 AM

maybe avex is trying to catch up with sony, since doesn't angela aki and ken hirai already have blu-ray concerts?

Calico 17th August 2009 01:40 AM

I just got back from Japan and hardly anybody I talked to there knew what blu-ray was. :shrug It just hasn't caught up there yet.

Doesn't matter to me, I still use DVDs. NEver even seen a blu-ray.

Zemus 17th August 2009 01:58 AM

Avex released Ai Otsuka's concert tour 2007 on Blu-ray back in January 2008. That's the first blu-ray from them if I recall correctly:

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=AVXD-91601

Perhaps it just ain't worth it yet? :shrug

truehappiness 17th August 2009 01:59 AM

Yeah, I think Ai had the first Blu-ray concert disc..

And I recall T.M. Revolution had a CD+Blu-ray single?

zoomzoom 17th August 2009 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calico (Post 2062223)
I just got back from Japan and hardly anybody I talked to there knew what blu-ray was. :shrug It just hasn't caught up there yet.

Doesn't matter to me, I still use DVDs. NEver even seen a blu-ray.

That's rather odd, considering the stereotype that the Japanese are always at the forefront of new technology and such. Bluray is Japanese too.

I guess it'll come around eventually. Hopefully they'll release backwards.

NintendoHTF1242 17th August 2009 02:24 AM

Nana Mizuaki (singer who made ULTIMATE DIAMOND) was one of the first artists to release a Concert DVD in BLU-RAY if I recall.

JackieRos 17th August 2009 03:25 AM

idk whats so special about blu ray
maybe they dont want to waste money on it

I Am... Aaron 17th August 2009 03:26 AM

I guess I just thought, like ZoomZoom said, that Japan should be at the forefront of the technology, and Ayumi being #1 with so much, should be one of the first to employ the Blu-Ray format.

Also, I don't have a Blu-Ray player per se... I have a PlayStation 3. I know that's not HUGE in Japan but isn't it big enough? I wanna watch Ayumi in HD widescreen on my nice new big TV I just got!

I Am... Aaron 17th August 2009 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by (me)JackieRos (Post 2062306)
idk whats so special about blu ray
maybe they dont want to waste money on it

It's not a waste. Ayumi, especially at her concerts, would look AWESOME in high definition. Especially if you have a really good television. I get it that many watch on the computer, but in my opinion the people like me who are actually paying full price for her DVD's etc, are the ones who would pay a little extra to see Ayumi in the highest quality available.

JackieRos 17th August 2009 03:33 AM

i was just saying maybe avex dont want to waste money due to the economy problems

Ayufan11 17th August 2009 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cutieismylife (Post 2062172)
who else is releasing blu-ray besides namie... for the first time?

Mika nakashima! both of her recent concerts I bought her music tour which looks amazing and i did not know namie was releasing on bluray!!! is it already on sale i will def purchase I wish ayu would jump onto the bandwagon seeing my favorite foreign artists in high def is so exciting! ^^

AyUta 17th August 2009 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (me)JackieRos (Post 2062306)
idk whats so special about blu ray
maybe they dont want to waste money on it

blu-ray's nice and all, but i would never purchase one. i'm fine watching my dvds on a regular player, to me they are the same. my boyfriend wants one though....so i lose there because he always gets his way lol.

murasakinohana 17th August 2009 04:47 AM

It's gonna come out soon I'm sure... probably..:laugh

Ayufan11 17th August 2009 05:15 AM

ahh i preordered it im excited. and it is a whole diff experience for me when you see it in high def you really appreciate the stage settings and outfits and all that and seeing the smoke etc you really feel like youre there and if you have the right t.v. boy is it stunning to watch I cant wait to add this to my collection :)

perfectodub 17th August 2009 05:25 AM

Maybe for bluray they need to recording with special type of cameras and expensive edition tools, maybe we are talking about a big change from the beginning...costs that they are trying to postpone for now.
and DVD sell more than a br in this moment.

zyoeru 17th August 2009 06:05 AM

^ True, times are hard, how many people can shell out for a blue-ray player when DVDs are perfectly fine. XD

lfe. 17th August 2009 06:17 AM

All that CGI in musical concerts totally make it worth it to release them in Blu-ray format..

yoshino 17th August 2009 09:24 AM

Blu-ray jus started not long ago so probably it isn't popular to release Ayu's stuff in Blu-ray? but I think no sooner or later Avex will release it, since it has alr done that for Namie's BF tour.

LacusClyne 17th August 2009 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (me)JackieRos (Post 2062306)
idk whats so special about blu ray
maybe they dont want to waste money on it

well, if you are used to super good quality on blueray, those DVD quality will be dissappointing to you.
but then again, blueray is still new in the market, at it's quite costly, so the craze might start like a year or 2 from now, with the price going down.

I used to work in an electronic store and we used blueray disc as demo for the tvs, it's awesome!

SKYia 17th August 2009 03:34 PM

Playstation 3 has Blu-ray build in so it's not that unkommon for people, especially Japanese who very often are gamers, even if just casuals. Ayu Blu-rays would definitely convince me to exchange my PS2 to PS3.

JackieRos 17th August 2009 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LacusClyne (Post 2062844)
well, if you are used to super good quality on blueray, those DVD quality will be dissappointing to you.
but then again, blueray is still new in the market

exactly is still new and the majority of people are used to watching DVD quality
but idk thats just me ^_^

noidea 17th August 2009 09:37 PM

Well, all of ayus concerts in the last years were filmed in HD, every single one from AT03-04 on i think(ST02 was partly filmed in HD, but mixed with normal definition cameras), so i think she will soon release bluray and rerelease some old concerts on bluray(i mean, come on, even nana mizuki released concerts on bluray before and she sells like 15% of what ayu sells xD)

gothicayu 17th August 2009 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by zoomzoom (Post 2062238)
That's rather odd, considering the stereotype that the Japanese are always at the forefront of new technology and such. Bluray is Japanese too.

its true but japan is an expensive country .already in us a blu ray is 30$ for a brand new release in japan is 60 $ .

i think people know about it ( since all playstation 3 in the wolrd read blu ray) but just dont use it for the simple reason that their dvd is already HQ ( already higher than ours) so why buy blu ray? +dvd are way cheapper so .

PEARL 18th August 2009 10:36 AM

Maybe 10 years down the road there will be no more dvds and blu-ray will start.
& it would be an honour for Nana Mizuki , Namie and some other artiste for being the first few for their concerts being sold as blu-ray~

noidea 18th August 2009 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gothicayu (Post 2063178)
but just dont use it for the simple reason that their dvd is already HQ ( already higher than ours) so why buy blu ray? +dvd are way cheapper so .

higher quality than which dvds? japanese dvds are higher resolution(really slightly higher only) but less pictures each second(which makes it quite a bit worse again) than for example american dvds

and the difference between bluray and dvd is giant, especially the definition difference(bluray is 1920x1080, dvd is something around 720x480) and more brilliant colors, if you ever watched a bluray you never want to watch a dvd again, NEVER

Insanity1240 18th August 2009 03:42 PM

LOL I've never seen a Bluray DVD =\
I didnt think it was worth it but noidea is making it sound pretty cool :P maybe I'll go to Best Buy and check it out :yes

LacusClyne 18th August 2009 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by noidea (Post 2064166)
and the difference between bluray and dvd is giant, especially the definition difference(bluray is 1920x1080, dvd is something around 720x480) and more brilliant colors, if you ever watched a bluray you never want to watch a dvd again, NEVER

true, blueray quality is just too awesome.
mark my words, i had been facing blueray disc for at least 1 year at my workplace, and already made me HATE VCD qualitys, i can still live with dvd, but i'll only start to get a little annoy when the camera angel is at the dark area, there's a lot of noise, blueray is so much clearer and sharper!

i'm only waiting for the blueray players' price to drop some more...

Rocky Raven 18th August 2009 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Insanity1240 (Post 2064173)
LOL I've never seen a Bluray DVD =\
I didnt think it was worth it but noidea is making it sound pretty cool :P maybe I'll go to Best Buy and check it out :yes

Just think about VCD and DVD, it may be easy to for u to compare^^
I belive that one day Blu-ray will step ahead n become the main disc being used =] It's a new era
Back to the topic, somehow I have a feeling that NEXT LEVEL will be released in both Blu-ray and DVD version, just like BF Tour of Namie.:yes

Corvina 18th August 2009 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gothicayu (Post 2063178)
its true but japan is an expensive country .already in us a blu ray is 30$ for a brand new release in japan is 60 $ .

Really? I thought technology is quite cheap in contrast to the european market. Or is the US market even cheaper than Japan?

Blu-Ray quality is great, seriously.
I do think Avex will sell Blu-Rays of all their big artists soon. The economical situation isn't great at the moment, but if it gets better they'll sure begin to bring out Ayu Blu-Rays.

noidea 18th August 2009 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocky Raven (Post 2064265)
Just think about VCD and DVD, it may be easy to for u to compare^^
I belive that one day Blu-ray will step ahead n become the main disc being used =] It's a new era
Back to the topic, somehow I have a feeling that NEXT LEVEL will be released in both Blu-ray and DVD version, just like BF Tour of Namie.:yes

Namie pretty much is the biggest female performer at the moment next to ayu, so ayu will probably do it when namies bluray sells well

panda87 18th August 2009 10:38 PM

it matters to you? wow, high maintenance. i'm wondering too, but could care less. maybe when i become OCD about the quality and see the pores of my idols, i'll probably care.

but on a lighter note, maybe Avex doesn't want to jump into that marketing strategy yet and want to carefully go into it with the best release [ideas] because they actually consider the economic state of Japan... and other countries that have Ayu fans. seem logic? i think so. and so, someone else may come and differ, and lalala, it's a beautiful day.

gothicayu 19th August 2009 12:24 AM

i never said their dvd could compare to blu ray . true once you watch a blu ray you can't come back to dvd but some advice can upgrate your dvd to sightly higher quality.
personally i like blu ray better because its so sharp and detail you can see really everything +blu ray is most likely to have ore bonus and extra feature than a regular dvd.

since the HD dissapears its most likely that dvd will slowly dissapears too . especially if they keep lowering the price . now dvd are so cheap !
look at the vhs for exemple . it took a while but now it completly dissapears .

well i hope they will release her new tour on blu ray . that would be handsome .

andre2907 19th August 2009 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by zoomzoom (Post 2062238)
That's rather odd, considering the stereotype that the Japanese are always at the forefront of new technology and such. Bluray is Japanese too.

I guess it'll come around eventually. Hopefully they'll release backwards.

This stereotype is somewhat wrong. Internet, for example, caught up in Japan years after most of the world. Digital cameras too.

Ayumi_lover 19th August 2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by noidea (Post 2063140)
Well, all of ayus concerts in the last years were filmed in HD, every single one from AT03-04 on i think(ST02 was partly filmed in HD, but mixed with normal definition cameras), so i think she will soon release bluray and rerelease some old concerts on bluray(i mean, come on, even nana mizuki released concerts on bluray before and she sells like 15% of what ayu sells xD)

Actually her concerts were shoot in HD from AT05(that was the first one)
and ST02 wasn't shoot in HD, they just mixed 16:9 aspect ratio and 4:3 that's why you were confused, but there wasn't HD camera

Chef+Vanny 19th August 2009 01:51 PM

I satisfied with DVDs for now.Maybe it will take some time for me to start demanding for blu-ray

LacusClyne 19th August 2009 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayumi_lover (Post 2065059)
Actually her concerts were shoot in HD from AT05(that was the first one)
and ST02 wasn't shoot in HD, they just mixed 16:9 aspect ratio and 4:3 that's why you were confused, but there wasn't HD camera

hmm. so maybe in years for now, AT05 might be release in blueray....I really like that concert, along with AT07(which i'm not happy with the documentary chop in the middle of the concert, annoying, so blueray could solve my problem!)

*starts dreaming*

noidea 19th August 2009 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayumi_lover (Post 2065059)
Actually her concerts were shoot in HD from AT05(that was the first one)
and ST02 wasn't shoot in HD, they just mixed 16:9 aspect ratio and 4:3 that's why you were confused, but there wasn't HD camera

ah, sorry, got it wrong, should have asked you again^^

Picaflor 7/4 19th August 2009 08:37 PM

bluray sucks. It's like releasing the ps3. just more annoyment for people that only own a ps2 cause ps2 isn't completely compatible with ps3 and having to swtich over is expensive. Maybe its cause no one is doing it.

Ayumi released tons of remixes on her singles cause it was the thing, then she started releasing them in cd/dvd cause again, it started becoming popular. just wait till the pain in the ass blueray kicks in and we all have to go waste money switching over. cause dvd just isn't good enought apparently. >>

noidea 21st August 2009 09:23 PM

^ appereantly you never watched a bluray before, its different than remixes, remixes were a trend, bluray not, bluray WILL happen(it will take some years, but some day it will completely take over the DVD market, in like 5-10 there wont be new dvd releases anymore) and bluray is tons of times better than DVD, its just like the DVD took over the VHS market, do you say that only was a trend? if so: stick to your vhs!

PinkShinigami 21st August 2009 09:56 PM

I don't really get, I think it's okay.. ayu was the first Japanese person to release a USB album, Namie the first with Blu-Ray.. fair enough :P

I think ayu releasing a Blu-Ray DVD in the NEXT LEVEL-era would be too much "I'm not fading out because I'm desperate, buy me!" alike :laugh

noidea 21st August 2009 10:00 PM

^ well, seeing how DVDs sell more than Bluray at the moment, it would be more like "hey, look, I'm innovative! first USB and now Bluray! I truly support new formats! buy me!" xD

ayumisrael 21st August 2009 11:39 PM

And the USBs were smashful success, they even needed to re-stock them and make more than they intended.

Too bad it was limited though.

LacusClyne 22nd August 2009 11:23 AM

^not to mention that they did a great design on the USB, if the design is crappy, i don't think the demand would be so high.

aura~ 22nd August 2009 12:57 PM

I only have BluRay in my computer because it's a VAIO, but I'm happy with DVD's.... are cheaper in all ways... movies are cheaper and also DVD players are cheaper, and doesn't make you buy an special TV for it...

douggn 22nd August 2009 02:18 PM

It would be good maybe some years from now but its a bit pricey to do on bluray but it would be a big flop I think because only a hand full of people have access to a bluray player and I don't think it would make to much of a profit and in the end that's what it comes down too :P

y_nathz 22nd August 2009 03:41 PM

there's still a lot of people who dont have blu-ray player

Ayumi_lover 23rd August 2009 09:39 AM

btw, it's not avex fault, it's more TeamAyu fault as for me, the same as fake 5.1ch sound at Ayu's dvds - TeamAyu shoot her concerts in HD but doesn't mind releasing blu-ray and edit 5.1 ch making this fakeish and not real as it was recorded

asmAyumi1992 29th August 2009 08:38 AM

Is blu-ray can be played through the usual DVD player?

nanakopy87 29th August 2009 08:40 AM

nope..only BLU RAY PLAYER can play BLU RAY DISC
and its quite expensive in my country

asmAyumi1992 29th August 2009 09:01 AM

^Ahhh..

No wonder there's nobody I know have it.

ayumi.hamasaki 29th August 2009 02:34 PM

you can play blu-ray with PS 3, too

my boyfriend has one so I can play blu-rays

I have ordered Namies tour in blu-ray and would love to order ayus next tour in blu-ray, too

SURREAL__RAINBOW 29th August 2009 02:49 PM

I will buy blu-rays only if AVEX gives with it a blu-ray player for free :P

asmAyumi1992 30th August 2009 06:55 PM

^haha. The same for me :D

perfectodub 28th October 2010 08:42 AM

so....nothing yet about blu-ray for ayu is a shame...i have a lot of blu-ray discs including MISIA blu-ray concerts and i have to say that DVDs looks so lame now

truehappiness 28th October 2010 08:43 AM

I think AT10 will be her first Blu-ray tour. It seems rather worthy of the format after all~

AngelSenshi 28th October 2010 02:47 PM

^ Yeah, I see the possibility of that.

channy 28th October 2010 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noidea (Post 2067929)
^ appereantly you never watched a bluray before, its different than remixes, remixes were a trend, bluray not, bluray WILL happen(it will take some years, but some day it will completely take over the DVD market, in like 5-10 there wont be new dvd releases anymore) and bluray is tons of times better than DVD, its just like the DVD took over the VHS market, do you say that only was a trend? if so: stick to your vhs!

Yes, there is always a way to make something even better, improvement all the way, but the question is if people perhaps might be already really happy with what they got so I can absolutely understand that not everyone is willing to follow the new trends of the industry.

Quality is more a thing of well-done content, too...

Cherry Dynamite 28th October 2010 03:34 PM

I want Ayu to release in blu-ray but I'm perfectly fine if she doesn't.
I'm not one of those "OHMYGOD DVD NO WAY, I'LL GET EYE CANCER, IT BURNS" people.

Ayumi_lover 28th October 2010 04:42 PM

The main problem of Ayu and blu-ray is her sales. B'z released Blu-Ray this year but their dvd sales are bigger than Ayu's single sales nowadays, so I don't think it's a good idea for avex to release blu-ray edition when dvd+blu-ray sales will be ~60K

Cherry Dynamite 28th October 2010 06:59 PM

^ I don't think the sales are the problem. (Read the whole thread someone explained it already)

MiiSan 30th October 2010 12:21 AM

This clip from CDTV gave me some hope that AT10 will be released in bluray.

Not that I don't like DVDs but seeing an Ayu concert on Bluray would be so awesome :thud
I watched Ayu's TV performances on my HDTV and it was so magical and detailed :heart

PEARL 30th October 2010 06:57 AM

^maybe in a few years time, ayu will be on blu-ray
btw, nana mizuki released her first blu-ray concert long time ago~

perfectodub 30th October 2010 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PEARL (Post 2537377)
...btw, nana mizuki released her first blu-ray concert long time ago~

The same with namie amuro and MISIA

PEARL 31st October 2010 02:31 PM

^yea..if AT10 is released in blu-ray it will be so..wow~
its not about sales that ayu is still not on blu-ray,
look at MISIA's dvd sales, its 5times or even 10times lesser than ayu.. and her latest dvd only sold 4k+..

Ayumi_lover 3rd November 2010 06:33 PM

B'z announced rereleasing of all their dvds since 2006 as blu-ray!!! Ayu really should do a blu-ray box with all concerts since AT05))

Keiichi_JPU 3rd November 2010 06:53 PM

I don't have a fancy TV, so I really don't care :p haha. But yeah Bluray will be the standard someday, we will get Ayu bluray releases, we'll just have to wait to see when we'll get them.

Also, somewhere down the road, we'll probably get a box of all her tours / PV's in Bluray.

Ayumi_lover 3rd November 2010 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keiichi_JPU (Post 2541514)
I don't have a fancy TV, so I really don't care :p haha. But yeah Bluray will be the standard someday, we will get Ayu bluray releases, we'll just have to wait to see when we'll get them.

Also, somewhere down the road, we'll probably get a box of all her tours / PV's in Bluray.

they'd better not do the pvs, coz they all were shot in SD.

perfectodub 3rd November 2010 10:42 PM

yep...i think we will never have all her old pvs in HD resolution, maybe all her videos are filmed on 35mm but after the digital transfer for the computer edition the final resolution is 720x480. (no HD)

even her last broadcasted PV in HD are just upscaled versions from the standart DVD edition.

we have chance in the future to have only her latest concert in HD blu-ray, and maybe her latest video clips

Ranma Matsuri 4th November 2010 07:02 AM

Until I get my PS3, then I honestly don't give a **** if she never gets a blu-ray release because I won't be able to watch it anyway. :P

Besides Japanese DVD's are expensive enough, I can't imagine forking out the extra cash for a blu-ray unless it was a special blu-ray+DVD+PB+extras package like Black Rock Shooter was (still hoping to get my hands on it hehe T.T).

kawaii:3 4th November 2010 09:23 PM

I have a PS3 but no blue ray movies yet XD Is it a huge difference from normal movies on a DVD player?

Kanzaki 4th November 2010 10:44 PM

I've had a PS3 since 2008, so naturally I'm very eager for her to release her concerts in blu-ray format. DVD sucks so bad compared to that.

I hope she will too, and SOON.

perfectodub 4th November 2010 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kawaii:3 (Post 2542641)
I have a PS3 but no blue ray movies yet XD Is it a huge difference from normal movies on a DVD player?

if you have your HD tv and blu-ray player, yes..is a huge difference.
because in HD screens you can see all the imperfections, blurried and compresion of standar DVD discs

a blu-ray Disc look exquisit in a HD TV!

kawaii:3 5th November 2010 12:03 AM

Ok I'll have to get some blu-ray movies now! I have noticed on my TV that some of the HD isn't the clearest, thanks :)


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