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Rocky Raven 18th August 2009 12:52 PM

Best Way of Life - Oricon
 

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Oricon readers in a new poll have voted Namie Amuro as the female entertainer who they thought had the best “way of life.” One respondent (Male/40s/Kyoto) voted for Amuro remarking how she has been capable of being a top artist while overcoming various things. Another respondent (Female/30s/Fukuoka) voted for Amuro because she’s able to shine as a woman while rearing children. Lastly, a female respondent from Shizuoka in her twenties felt that Amuro had become a symbol for independent women.

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Diva Ayumi Hamasaki ranked at the second place for "where love is expressed in the lyrics of my life" (Kumamoto, Japan / 30's / men), on the other hand, "the job despite the illness" (Japan / 10's / women) and from the opinion of many readers, just like Amuro, Ayumi has overcome many hardships to shine more in her career.

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The 3rd place's rock singer, Kaori Kawamura who recently passed away following her fight with breast cancer. The youngest of four ranked in TOP10 was YUI . "16 good years up to a dress. Despite having a fear, a great strength of faith to overcome it" (Hyogo / 10's / women), "decided to go into the music until high school dropout." (Hiroshima prefecture / 20's / men), and how many people have to admire her passion for music.

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...(for more detail click the source below)...

Top 10 List
  1. Namie Amuro
  2. Ayumi Hamasaki
  3. Kaori Kawamura
  4. YUI
  5. Ringo Shiina
  6. Miwa Yoshida
  7. Seiko Matsuda
  8. Matsutōya Yumi
  9. Anna Tsuchiya
  10. ayaka

Source: Oricon
Credit: NATE@AMX + Rocky.R

ayumisrael 18th August 2009 01:01 PM

Thank you Rocky! It fits to the Celebrity News Section though. =D
I'm not surprised that namie and ayu are on the top of the poll.
They would be my 2 top for that poll as well.

zyoeru 18th August 2009 01:02 PM

Thanks! Namie deserves that place. :)

ren0210989 18th August 2009 01:06 PM

thakn you~~
glad Ayu made the 2nd place ^^

Chef+Vanny 18th August 2009 01:14 PM

Guess this is expected?
Gratz to all of them

SURREAL__RAINBOW 18th August 2009 01:19 PM

haha if namie is first I was sure u were gonna post it ;)


thanks! :D

chloeM 18th August 2009 01:22 PM

glad to see Namie's in the first although she creamed ayu~

but way to go girl~

Lee^ChaN 18th August 2009 01:26 PM

wow cool!!
congratz for both of them!

Rocky Raven 18th August 2009 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2064058)
haha if namie is first I was sure u were gonna post it ;)


thanks! :D

That's my bbz, lol, actually there's many times when Namie was at #1 and I didn't post anything =P because there's still some who'r faster.
and @Tal: sorry I wasnt sure where to post it XD anyway next time I will post in Celebrity News Section though

SURREAL__RAINBOW 18th August 2009 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocky Raven (Post 2064085)
That's my bbz, lol, actually there's many times when Namie was at #1 and I didn't post anything =P because there's still some who'r faster.

yea! some people in this forum are TOO FAST in posting things up xDD :thud

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 18th August 2009 02:11 PM

thk u!
congrats ayu!
and namie too..!
love u all!

TITANIC 18th August 2009 02:31 PM

both of them deserve it...

congratz for ayu and namie

JackieRos 18th August 2009 03:37 PM

yep i agree with the rankings namie and ayu are both strong women

AyUta 18th August 2009 03:45 PM

they would have been my top two as well. :yes

maaya 18th August 2009 04:21 PM

congratz to both Namie and Ayu!!

freedreamer 18th August 2009 04:26 PM

Namie really deserves..she been through so much..
Ayu is really being admired in Japan im sure

waterballoon 18th August 2009 04:30 PM

Hahaha I think Kuu... should be up there too, but whatever. Congrats to Namie, she deserves this.

duque 18th August 2009 08:03 PM

Congrats to namie and ayu xD

terra 18th August 2009 08:08 PM

I've expected the two of them on top!
Yay! for Ayu and Namie!

jbrat2219 18th August 2009 08:13 PM

Congratulations to both Namie and Ayu! They've definitely been through a lot!

truehappiness 18th August 2009 08:15 PM

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glad to see Namie's in the first although she creamed ayu~
Creamed Ayu? I don't think you understand the meaning of this poll, haha.

Namie's been through hell and back, which is probably why she's #1 here. Divorced, single mother, with a dead mother due to a relative going crazy or w/e... aie.

Ayu's also been through a lot (no father in her life, broke up with longtime boyfriend, friend died recently, lost hearing in one ear, broken hand during a live, etc etc.) but I don't think Ayu's troubles can outdo Namie's at all.

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 2位は「ゴージャス」(大分県/20代/男性)で「カリスマ」(神奈川県/30代/男性)性を持つアーテ ィスト・浜崎あゆみ。しかし見た目だけではなく「自分のスタイルを貫いている」(埼玉県/30代/男性)「 いろいろな困難を乗り越えてきた」(岐阜県/女性/20代)その姿がかっこいいのだ。
"Gorgeous" and "charisma" were used to describe Ayu, and that she had a kakkoii / cool appearance.

Kazeyomi 18th August 2009 08:38 PM

Congratz to Ayu & Namie.
Both deserves the highest position :yes

Ayu_Ready 18th August 2009 08:46 PM

It's great but I think they don't have any idea for what to chart anymore ... XD

rakeru 19th August 2009 04:39 AM

personally, i think Ayu and Namie should be switched in the ranking, but still, they're bth decent commercial role models. congrats to everyone on the list!

mcluva420 19th August 2009 04:45 AM

yayy for namie & ayu! :love

pommy48 19th August 2009 04:50 AM

congrats! they deserve those spots <3

tokyoxjapanxfan 19th August 2009 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2064201)
Hahaha I think Kuu... should be up there too, but whatever. Congrats to Namie, she deserves this.

that's where japanese and non-japanese people's opinions differ, i guess.

anyway, it's good to see both of them on the chart.

Spoiler:
but if ayu had a baby too, would opinions change?

octolina 19th August 2009 05:11 AM

Namie has endured crazy hardships... (read something about her mother being murdered by a relative?)

Ayu too... we all know about her life right?

Nice poll :) I like it. Learn to overcome obstacles!

Rocky Raven 19th August 2009 05:28 AM

Her mother was brutally murdered by her brother-in-law on the same releasing day(17th March 99) of her 12th single "Respect the Power of Love". Namie cancelled promotion for this single and flew to Okinawa to identify her mother's body.
Since then she had never returned to her hometown Okinawa, until late 2006 on her Live Style Tour 2006, she's came back to perform after many years & cried alot when performing "NEVER END" there. Not to mention the lyric of the song itself is very touching, NEVER END lyric


That's why I always respect the power of Namie, she's such a strong woman.

aloopy 19th August 2009 05:34 AM

Thanks rocky raven for the info <3

And congrats to Namie :heart
She totally deserves it :yes

She's such strong person and a real role model <3


Also good to see Anna Tsuchiya and ayaka and Ayumi there, they have been through lots as well and are real role models as well. :)

aqua_crystal 19th August 2009 05:37 AM

That's all great.... but what kind of poll name is that :laugh

aloopy 19th August 2009 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocky Raven (Post 2064826)
Her mother was brutally murdered by her brother-in-law on the same releasing day(17th March 99) of her 12th single "Respect the Power of Love". Namie cancelled promotion for this single and flew to Okinawa to identify her mother's body.
Since then she had never returned to her hometown Okinawa, until late 2006 on her Live Style Tour 2006, she's came back to perform after many years & cried alot when performing "NEVER END" there. Not to mention the lyric of the song itself is very touching, NEVER END lyric


That's why I always respect the power of Namie, she's such a strong woman.

i love that performance :yes
makes me sad everytime i watch it :(

also people should read this:
http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80284

jbrat2219 19th August 2009 05:38 AM

She really is super strong. I'm not sure I could pick myself up the way she did if something like that happened to my parents...

rookies 19th August 2009 07:57 AM

congrats to both ayu and namie. ^^

rainydayumi 19th August 2009 08:03 AM

they deserved it :yes

ownsarai 19th August 2009 08:22 AM

Yay for Namie and Ayu~ They both definitely have seen their share of hardships in the business and life, so it's only natural that they are on top! :D

AyumiBest 19th August 2009 08:40 AM

Congrats to Namie and Ayu! :D

yuki_unmei 19th August 2009 09:04 AM

congrats to them both, they deserve it :)

zyoeru 19th August 2009 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2064201)
Hahaha I think Kuu... should be up there too, but whatever. Congrats to Namie, she deserves this.

Just out of interest..why do you think that? I mean...Namie and Ayu have had much harder lives than Kumi.
Ayu came from a broken home, lost her ear, left her boyfriend of God knows how many years.
Namie also came from a broken home, is now divorced, and had her mother murdered.

I don't think Kumi can quite compare with that LOL.

y_nathz 19th August 2009 03:37 PM

wow good !
congrats to everyone ! ^^
thx for the news

yoshino 19th August 2009 04:00 PM

thanks for the news. that's a great poll. I can see how Namie certainly deserved the top place. Anyway, I'm definitely happy for Ayu too! ^_^

4ever*ayu 20th August 2009 03:02 PM

ayu has the best way of life, and as her fans we should be proud cause we're part of her life !

ストロボ・EdGE 20th August 2009 03:15 PM

The only reason my dear Ayaka is on the list is because she married Mizushima Hiro!! ^^;

waterballoon 20th August 2009 04:39 PM

@Joel:

Well... I think Kuu had a pretty bad start to her career as well... Max called her 'fat', he didn't like her much in the beginning as well I think.

She also gave chocolates to the avex staff during Valentine's but they never gave anything back to her... which is really mean.

She was also used as a guinea pig for marketing to use sex as an image... regardless if it's successful, you can't deny they used Kuu has a ... test.

And also the fluid scandal last year... even if it's her fault... but in the end she pulled through and is doing well now! ^^

Andrenekoi 20th August 2009 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2066515)
@Joel:

Well... I think Kuu had a pretty bad start to her career as well... Max called her 'fat', he didn't like her much in the beginning as well I think.

She also gave chocolates to the avex staff during Valentine's but they never gave anything back to her... which is really mean.

She was also used as a guinea pig for marketing to use sex as an image... regardless if it's successful, you can't deny they used Kuu has a ... test.

And also the fluid scandal last year... even if it's her fault... but in the end she pulled through and is doing well now! ^^

-Well... she was fat actually by the show biz stantards...

-She gave them chocolates in order to be better seen and liked... and she failed... so what?

-She agreed with being a guinea pig cuz she wanted to, and that made her famous in the end of the day

-The scandal was her fault... Maybe the people who voted didn't consider when you make your own life harder xD

besides the last one, all of those were part of Koda's adventure trying to be famous at any price... so, I don't see how it can compare to the problems some people on the list had over the years...

ストロボ・EdGE 20th August 2009 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2066744)
-Well... she was fat actually by the show biz stantards...

-She gave them chocolates in order to be better seen and liked... and she failed... so what?

-She agreed with being a guinea pig cuz she wanted to, and that made her famous in the end of the day

-The scandal was her fault... Maybe the people who voted didn't consider when you make your own life harder xD

besides the last one, all of those were part of Koda's adventure trying to be famous at any price... so, I don't see how it can compare to the problems some people on the list had over the years...

Wow, you really don't like her ( :P ).

Anyways her scandal, etc really has nothing to do with it because its not a popularity contest, its who they think "lives the best way of life". She has a lot of money so it makes sense for her to be high up since most people believe $ = ( :) ).

EDIT: But now reading through the previous pages, it seems people are taking this as a "who has been through more" poll? I understood it differently I guess. Best way of life = how much **** you've been through and over come?

Polyrhythm 20th August 2009 11:08 PM

Alright! Congratz to Ayu only! Good job!

Andrenekoi 20th August 2009 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE (Post 2066791)
Wow, you really don't like her ( :P ).

Anyways her scandal, etc really has nothing to do with it because its not a popularity contest, its who they think "lives the best way of life". She has a lot of money so it makes sense for her to be high up since most people believe $ = ( :) ).

EDIT: But now reading through the previous pages, it seems people are taking this as a "who has been through more" poll? I understood it differently I guess. Best way of life = how much **** you've been through and over come?

I like some songs... but come on! Cancer, crazy relative killed your mom, deafiness being a musician > scandal caused by stupid coment

ストロボ・EdGE 20th August 2009 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2066809)
I like some songs... but come on! Cancer, crazy relative killed your mom, deafiness being a musician > scandal caused by stupid coment

I completely agree with you ( :yes ).

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 21st August 2009 12:08 AM

^ lol

I'm reading Namie's mom's book... pretty interesting. Namie and ayu deserve the rankings they got :)

ストロボ・EdGE 21st August 2009 12:10 AM

I can't believe Namie has gone through all of that, it's so sad. I had no idea ( :weep ).

Crystal_Ageha 21st August 2009 01:01 AM

^ Yeah, I feel bad for Namie, about her mother. So even though I'm not a fan, I'll admit she deserves top stop for this one. Though Ayu is definitely really close. She came up from literally nothing. And just when it seemed like things were finally going her way, something bad would happen. That's happened to her a few times now (illness, deaths, etc.)...

On another note, the Kumi thing... I'm a Kumi fan, but I can safely say that, despite the fact that she is very~ talented in singing, she got very lucky. Sex sells no matter who you are; it's all about whether or not you think it's worth putting yourself out like that. Apparently, she thinks so. (Which isn't a huge deal, since she's not doing porn or anything, lol. :lech) But that is truly the main reason she's so popular. She has a wonderful voice - great lung power and a pretty good range - but a lot of people don't like her voice in general. And she was kinda chubby when she was younger (I wouldn't consider her "fat," by any means, but she obviously could've stood to lose a few pounds). And without heaps of makeup she isn't anywhere close to the sex symbol Avex advertises her as... So yeah, Kumi is actually a very typical pop star. Doesn't deserve a spot on this particular chart, especially against Ayu and Namie Amuro.

waterballoon 21st August 2009 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2066744)
-Well... she was fat actually by the show biz stantards...

-She gave them chocolates in order to be better seen and liked... and she failed... so what?

-She agreed with being a guinea pig cuz she wanted to, and that made her famous in the end of the day

-The scandal was her fault... Maybe the people who voted didn't consider when you make your own life harder xD

besides the last one, all of those were part of Koda's adventure trying to be famous at any price... so, I don't see how it can compare to the problems some people on the list had over the years...

You have a point, but I would like to know what tragic stories the other girls in the ranking have too, just to know. ;)

Well, my point wasn't like "oh Kuu should be #1 here!"... I think I actually know and understood how hard Namie & Ayu's lives have been, haha.

asmAyumi1992 21st August 2009 07:56 AM

Congrats to Namie and Ayu.

Minttulatte 21st August 2009 10:23 AM

Go Namie~ o/ Namie deserves this. It's a long time since I saw a poll where Ayu is in top 3 which is okay. :)

gothicayu 21st August 2009 10:50 AM

CONGRATULATION TO AMURO YEAHHHH!!! she deserve the first place she worked so hard and made an amazing come back and amazing albums recently

sailorseraphim 22nd August 2009 11:16 PM

congrats to both of them!!!!! :D

C+R+E+AYUMI 25th August 2009 02:10 PM

i'm so happy that everybody seem to have understood the double role of namiie as a mother and a singer..she's a greta woman

SunshineSlayer 27th August 2009 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2066744)
-She gave them chocolates in order to be better seen and liked... and she failed... so what?

In Japan, if you give someone a Valentine's gift and they don't return it, it is considered rude and a major snub.

Andrenekoi 27th August 2009 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2074498)
In Japan, if you give someone a Valentine's gift and they don't return it, it is considered rude and a major snub.

Well, she wasn't very liked when she gave them chocolates, was she? I'm not saying that those people were nice, just that... They didn't like her, she tried to own some attention by giving them chocolate, and failed... Were they right? No... Do I feel pity for her because of that? No

Crystal_Ageha 28th August 2009 12:02 AM

^ Yeah, not being liked doesn't mean you have a hard life, lol. The fact that she wasn't well liked just proves how fortunate she really is, to be able to make it as a star when nobody likes what you have to offer.

ren'ai 28th August 2009 12:07 AM

Congrats to both Namie and Ayu! They deserve their places

EDIT: lol at the Kumi discussion. Here's my 2 cents. She's been through a lot to get to where she is now too, just like any other artist, so people snubbing her and just making it like whoever uses sex to sell is instantly famous, need to back off a bit. Others have tried to do what Kumi did and failed. She actually has talent which is something and really if she used a way to make herself more known then I say good for her :shrug. I'm not saying she should have been on this poll because I'm sure there are a lot more artists that have been through worse but really, some people need to be less harsh :/

SunshineSlayer 28th August 2009 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2074654)
Well, she wasn't very liked when she gave them chocolates, was she? I'm not saying that those people were nice, just that... They didn't like her, she tried to own some attention by giving them chocolate, and failed... Were they right? No... Do I feel pity for her because of that? No

I'm not saying she should be at the top of the list or something - Namie deserves that. :) I was just pointing out that in the culture of Japan, it is common to give your male coworkers a gift on Valentine's Day. (so its not like something incredibly special that she did in order to get attention) Then they are supposed to return the favor by giving you a gift on White Day a month later - whether you might particularly like the person or not. It is just considered polite and well mannered and of course the Japanese are very meticulous when it comes to that kind of thing. So to not receive something in return speaks more to the fact that Avex really didn't seem to care about her one way or the other at that time, not necessarily that those people didn't like her personally.

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Originally Posted by Crystal_Ageha (Post 2074716)
^ Yeah, not being liked doesn't mean you have a hard life, lol. The fact that she wasn't well liked just proves how fortunate she really is, to be able to make it as a star when nobody likes what you have to offer.

Honestly, I believe it all came down to her looks because her singing and dancing is better than a lot of people out there.(I'm not even really a Koda fan, but I can still admit that she has some talent in that area) She didn't have the looks of a pop star, so Avex really didn't think she had selling potential until they came up with the whole Ero-Kakkoi angle. In this instance I don't look down on her for using sex to sell because she had been trying hard to make it from a very young age based on her talent and not her looks. For example, I'm sure her face was the reason she didn't get put into Morning Musume when she auditioned, not a lack of talent. Its unfortunate in the pop industry that you basically have to be a knock out or sex it up to really sell - but that is something that society decided, not Koda Kumi.

Andrenekoi 28th August 2009 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2074898)
I'm not saying she should be at the top of the list or something - Namie deserves that. :) I was just pointing out that in the culture of Japan, it is common to give your male coworkers a gift on Valentine's Day. (so its not like something incredibly special that she did in order to get attention) Then they are supposed to return the favor by giving you a gift on White Day a month later - whether you might particularly like the person or not. It is just considered polite and well mannered and of course the Japanese are very meticulous when it comes to that kind of thing. So to not receive something in return speaks more to the fact that Avex really didn't seem to care about her one way or the other at that time, not necessarily that those people didn't like her personally.

I know this culture trait, but I really doubt she gave them chocolate just cuz she is really a nice person with so much love deep inside her heart... She wanted them to have a more friendilly attitude towards her and failed... I'm not saying that it was easy for her and her story is one of the reason why I dislike avex... But any pop singer anywhere in the world needs to overcome this stuff in order to get as famous as she got

waterballoon 28th August 2009 06:32 AM

^ Well even so, at least she's making an effort? And whether I want to be friendly to people, or really have that much love (lol), I would still be hurt if people... just ignore it or something... it's a really insulting gesture imo. I don't think working in a company where almost everyone dislikes or ignores you for a couple of years is even an "easy" life, but that's my opinion too. :)

inspire_rmx 28th August 2009 06:48 AM

Congrats to both Namie and Ayu. Both realli deserve the spot.. love both of them ^^

rusuke 28th August 2009 07:55 AM

Congrats to Namie and Ayu! Ayu did inspired many Japanese people thorugh her poignant lyrics. They both deserve it!

I like the quote "the job despite the illness"...

Thanks for sharing!:)

ALfromHELLSING 31st August 2009 07:32 PM

Congrats to Ayu & Namie. Both deserved #1.


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