Recochoku 2009 Yearly Ranking
 

I did post this in the other thread, but I realized that it probably doesn't fit in too well with the You were... rankings, haha.

The yearly rankings are pretty impressive. She also did well in the overall rankings as the best solo female in Chaku-Uta and Chaku-Uta Full. The Days rankings are kinda crazy and should have higher download totals given that it ranked the highest in most areas... This seems to suggest that Days probably performed very similarly to Sunrise in total downloads for Chaku-Uta [500k+ or more?]

Maybe this suggest that Ayu fans shifted to digital since Days/Next level/sunrise sales were kinda low for those high rankings~

It's funny because GREEN's single is like 10x more expensive than days, yet days was received better. Well she didn't really performed GREEN... shouldn't it be wiser to make it a Bside then?

Or PVs doesn't count as much as others? But it's nice to see so many people interested in days as I was! And sunrise too! ^.^

URGH exile/Greeeen/Arashi are like the only ones in front of her!!! D<

cant believe it Days got #1 yearly incoming movie clips??? o.0

btw whats the different for the artist chart
Ayu is doing extremely well digitally this year. she beats all solo and female artist. congratz ayu

Congrat her ! i'm really surprised at Days position @@! it's even higher than Sunrise ~LIA~!
P/s : ah ! i forgot that chaku uta counted since 12/08 ~~ but Days still did well .

Chaku-Uta sales and Chaku-Uta Full sales, I believe.

thanks. I've just used google translation to find out.. ^^

Thank you truehappiness. ^_^

I didn't know that the yearlies are out already. XDD
Let me organize it (without the japanese parts).

2009 Yearkly Ranking (01.12.2008-30.11.2009)

chaku uta
#22 Days
#24 Sunrise ~LOVE is ALL~
#48 Rule

chaku uta FULL
#27 Days
#41 Sunrise ~LOVE is ALL~
#89 Rule

RBT
#6 Days
#39 Sunrise ~LOVE is ALL~
#100 NEXT LEVEL

chaku uta FULL PLUS
#40 Sunrise ~LOVE is ALL~

Video Clips
#2 Days PV
#10 Rule PV
#20 Sunrise ~LOVE is ALL~ PV

Incoming Movie Clips
#1 Days PV
#19 Rule PV
#22 Sunrise ~LOVE is ALL~ PV
#62 Sunset ~LOVE is ALL~ PV
#65 GREEN PV
#77 NEXT LEVEL PV

Melody Parts
#85 Days 1st Chorus
#98 Rule Main part

Most Downloaded Artist for chaku uta

#4 ayumi hamasaki

Most Downloaded Artist for chaku uta FULL

#3 ayumi hamasaki

imo sunrise is doing much better than Days because Days charted for a year and Sunrise only 3-4 months and snach very good position not too far the gap between Sunrise and Days

I am glad that even though Ayu might not be among the most popular celebrities in Japan right now her songs and PVs are still obviously well liked by general public.

These are very good rankings! :yes it seems she's becoming a better digital seller.

glad to know that she is number one female singer on chaku uta ranking....
she still so strong...no wonder that her income is still so high

Well at least her digital sales are doing better! Days must have been super popular, the physical single sold well and now the digital sales are great! :D

Days is mad popular. you go girl!

i wonder how crazily Days would have sold at the height of her power; it'd be ubiquitous!

Days did extremely well. I'm also surprised at Arashi being so high because I didn't think they were that big of digital sellers.

Aren't there several female artists ranked higher than Ayu though? Or do you mean that she is the highest ranked female in the overall chart? (meaning sales for her entire discography, not just this years songs) Sorry, the like millions of charts can get confusing.

Days was so surprising in this chart! 8-0

Nishino Kana, JUJU, Miliyah Kato and Nakashima Mika are the only female artists who have songs in Chaku uta/Chaku Uta full in front of Ayu.

Almost everyone's WHOLE discographies are in question, ie both Namie and Utada have their discographies available:

Namie Amuro:

http://recochoku.jp/search/Srch?fkw=...10000010%2C487

http://recochoku.jp/search/Srch?fkw=...%3A10000010%2C

Utada Hikaru:

http://recochoku.jp/search/Srch?fkw=...Cc-%2Ca%2B&st=

http://recochoku.jp/search/Srch?fkw=...Cc-%2Ca%2B&st=

Neither of them made it to top 10 overall, so I am pretty sure that the old songs didn't play such a big role. I mean considering how popular Namie is wouldn't it be expected that it all re-sparked the interest in her older stuff too? The same would go for B'z :)

Anyways, that's just the way I think, we might never know for sure. Still regardless of what songs made her chart this good, those are still her songs and it's amazing that people are still interested even if it's just your older stuff in question, which obviously isn't.

^ Actually I think you missed Kimura Kaela, May J., and Lil'B (or is that counted as a group, I don't really know this artist so)

I still think the old songs though have to play at least somewhat of a role though, otherwise it stands to reason that all of the other artists that had better selling chaku-uta and chaku-uta full songs this year should be listed as higher on the overall chart, but they are not.

Namie's and Hikki's discographies are far shorter than Ayu's...
If old songs played some role, they don't have as much material as Ayu^^

^ Yeah, it's really not fair to compare in that sense. Honestly I just looked at the number of songs Ayu has available and I practically spit out my drink. lol I remembered from before that the difference is big, I just didn't remember it being this big.

Ayumi: 1,355. Namie: 162. Utada: 117

Then when you look at the top 5 of the overall chart it is even more eyepopping:
1. Exile: 338
2. Greeen: 50
3. Arashi: 79
4. Ayumi: 1,355
5. Nishino Kana: 32

It's like geez, calm down Avex! :)

Not saying that is bad for Ayu, but at least extremely impressive for everyone else to rank that highly with such few songs.

as usual SSS always be doubtfull bout ayu's popularity..
LOL..

^I'm just posting readily available facts. I didn't even say anything bad or draw any conclusions. People are free to look at the data and draw whatever conclusion they want or just choose to ignore it.

When you look at all of the songs/videos that are available, I highly doubt that many people are really purchasing all of those remix/remix instrumentals/video clips...

^ What then do you use to explain the disparity between those that placed higher than her this year in Chaku Uta and Chaku Uta Full, but did not place as highly on the overall chart? (not just other female artists either, but in general) Shouldn't that mean that her position on the overall chart is in fact mostly due to all of those extra things plus her older discography?

And as I state again, that doesn't mean it is a bad thing at all, just that it does give her a distinct advantage.

Why is that impressive for everyone else but not ayu?

Every song of hers has like +10 versions in the chaku uta. And it's not like 1355 of those songs are released at the same time. -_-

Her position is 100% due to Days and Sunrise with a little to Rule this past year. It's not like everyone downloaded all 1355 times from ayu this past year either.

^ I guess my question would be, why wouldn't it be impressive for them?

Imagine if Ayu was the one with only 30 songs available for download and someone else had 1,000+ wouldn't we all be saying "look how awesome Ayu did beating someone with a gazillion more songs than her available for download!" Isn't that natural?

And then my answer to you is the same as above: Yes, Days did pretty excellent this year; but there is no doubt that other things sold better than it did, yet those artists are not in the top of the overall chart. So that makes it clear (at least to me), that yes, the large amount of stuff she has available does play a role in her overall ranking.

Songs that perhaps didn't make the top 100 on the charts like Sparkle/NEXT LEVEL/etc.? All Recochoku says is that they take the sales of her Chaku-Uta/Chaku-Uta Full from 12/1/2008 -> 11/30/2009... I know she has a lot of songs in her discography there, but I doubt that people were buying those, as the daily top 100 in that span of time had barely any signs of old Ayu tracks.

Just the fact that you're posting them seems to suggest that you don't feel that Ayu should be praised when she does well... why else would someone feel that they need to point out that Ayu's entire discography is so much larger and then not mention how the bulk of her total amount is actually made up of remixes and portions of her concerts?

I wouldn't even think about the total amount of songs/video clips available since for the most part, Ayu's discography of 1300+ didn't come from 2008-2009. It's basically a level playing field [for the most part] since Ayu released about the same amount of new material as everyone else in the same period. Browsing through the 120+ pages of material she has on Recochoku, only 1-2 tracks per page aren't remixes/video clips after all...

^ Yes, and for the singles released 2008-2009 period she was out of the top 20. But when you count in those 1300+ she is in the top 5.... Is my logic really totally off here?

Isn't the same true for every other artist though?

Didn't I already praise her saying that Days did extremely well? I'm also not the only one that pointed out the difference in the discographies. And whether it is remixes or concerts or whatever is completely irrelevant, its still there for people to buy isn't it?


I feel like I can't say anything even if I'm not saying something even bad or wrong.

if 30% of Ayu's old songs were responsable for her being on that position, that still is a lot...
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Was 2009 an amazing year for Ayu? Pretty much... Is she popular on Japan? Sure... Is she the most popular? Not really... Most popular female? Not even close...

No, what I'm saying what constitutes ayu placing so high this past year? It's not evolution or M.

Well that didn't happen so I can't say. But I wouldn't do that. I do see the advantage you speak, but honestly, I don't think songs like Sparkle boost her sales that much.

Well sorry for rambling on and such.

Relatively speaking Ayu released 1 album & 3 singles this year that are being counted. There is a normal chart for who's had the best selling single and this is overall. Thus the more she has, it's her advantage.

Yes, thank you. I agree with your post. :) And its not a bad thing either because it at least means that people still have a yearning for her old material.

She does have more to buy, but most people who do buy Chaku-Uta are not likely to think of purchasing even 10% of what she has to offer... you take away the remixes and the clips, and have you a number that's more reasonable and closer to the other artists' numbers and probably a truer amount of the ringtones that people actually purchased. [Speaking of which, the video clips have nothing to do with her Chaku-Uta/Full rankings so they shouldn't be counted anyway, haha.]

As for other artists, the separation of their collaborations probably hurt them in the end, since Miliyah Kato and JUJU had big songs that were counted as being from another group. Without a doubt, both of them would've probably ranked higher than Ayu in both rankings had their collaborations been counted, which would account for the two artists ranking lower than Ayu despite having higher rankings on the individual charts.

^ You are right collaborations could account for at least some of the disparity, but in the overall chart, all artists count - not just women and there were a number of artists ahead of Ayu in the Chaku Uta and Chaku Uta full and not all of them were collaborations. So I don't really see that as a fully adequate explanation of why the disparity exists. So I definitely think the large number of things she has plays a fairly significant role (or at least significant enough to put her in the top 5 overall) But its obvious what my viewpoint is by now I guess, lol.

Oh well it just means its avex and their evil marketing strategies! I mean exile has quite a few more songs than others too and they're avex. Sure it doesn't really say that she had a whole bunch of hits this year or anything. But at least people are still buying her stuff :shrug

True, but most of the artists that are ahead of her that aren't already ahead of her are female for the most part, haha.

It seems likely to me that the cumulative total of her sales [NEXT LEVEL/new singles only] on Recochoku outdid the other artists' totals and that's what placed her ahead of the rest. I feel as though the 20 or so tracks she had in the past year might've been downloaded more than we expect, but not enough to make the top 100, you know? And then there's the small percentage of people who buy the older material. I guess we'd need to see what the ranking looked like last year to know for sure.

In the 2007 yearly chart though, she was #6 overall, with few tracks in the top 100. JEWEL ranked highest at #50/#46. But that was just "overall"... probably everything counted at once? That was a bit strange, hm. And to add, her half year rankings for this year were pretty similar to the final tally... it doesn't look as though she was featured much on the 2008 yearly chart since she pretty much only had Together When... representing everything, so overall she had a much better year this year than any year before. I wonder if Japan liked the songs more this year? It's sort of sad how Thelma was topping every single chart last year, and now she's barely anywhere to be seen, haha.

http://recochoku.jp/recochoku_rankin...ber/index.html

Find all the yearly rankings near the bottom of the page.

So perhaps we are underestimating the strength of her older material... but if that were the case, her older tracks should at least chart during a daily ranking at some point, so what gives for her to be ranking so highly in the overall Chaku-Uta/Full charts? Hm...

Perhaps, but having two songs that are in the top 25 might've helped her more than having one song in the top 20... [even if some of those songs did sell a million in Chaku-Uta totals]

Like Sunshine said, even if her old stuff is contributing to this spike, it's not a bad thing. It shows people still have an interest in her after all these years. And as someone pointed out, that 1,300+ Ayu material didn't just appear over night. Many of her songs have been available for years. It's impressive that people with less can hold their own against her, but it's even more impressive (to me at least) that she can hold her own after all these years. Old songs or not, people are still interested enough to buy them. And that's just digital sales. And in Aoyama Thelma's case, she had one (or more?) super big hit and now where is she? :shrug All in all, GOOD JOB AYU! :D

Lol, all this talk about Ayumi's popularity again... And what's all this, 'she's not even close to being the most popular female artist in Japan' crap?? The only recent ladies who have been able to ever compare (and really, ever, there's only been one older female artist who could compare, either...) are Hikaru Utada, Kumi Koda and Namie Amuro. Hikki only stands up against her because of how damn likable she is, and the fact that she's a huge icon in general; Namie only stands a chance because she's a sellout with probable connections and amazingly loyal fans. And Kuu, I love her, but, she could only "compare" for two years now. :\ Not to mention, Ayumi has sold much more than any of them. Sure, she's had a lot more songs, but that's beside the point right now. The point is, no matter how much she puts out, in general it's always good and people still want it. (Yes, this was directed towards that ridiculous comment, Andre.)

That's how I thought of it, but some might twist it to mean that because Ayu has such a large amount of material available via Recochoku, that somehow negates the fact that she's done so well as opposed to someone with only 60-70 tracks on Recochoku. She's done better this year than any other year on this chart, so I think she deserves to rank so high on the overall charts. I wish we knew the certifications of the tracks that we don't know any numbers for though... it'd certainly paint a clearer picture anyway.

I love you too dear... wanna have dinner sometime? :heart

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Ayu was never the most popular singer in Japan... when she was at her peak, so was Hikki, who was (and still is) more popular =)

Yeah if we had numbers we'd know for sure, because even if someone has 60-70 songs, who's to say Ayu didn't sell 60-70 songs out of her 1,300?

^ Yeah, seriously. If only we could get those numbers, many things could be solved amongst us fans, hah. :dead

^^ Hah, that made me laugh, I won't lie.

BTW, over those years since the end of her peak, there were some female jpop singers that managed to be bigger than Ayu...

Ayu will not be the best selling female pop singer of Japan every year, and that's ok cuz is not that what make her an icon... she is an icon cuz she is relevant for 11 years on a music market where usually u r relevant for 2 or 3 years only...

Yup :cool

Home girl got some major lasting power!

^^ I'm not saying she's definitely the biggest right now, but she's certainly close, you can't deny that.

I would say that she is on top10, but not on top5 :P

She's gotta at least be No.5...

Yes, top five, without a freaking doubt!! :shakehead I personally think top three, but I can see if people think only top five.

Overall, I'd say Ayu's probably #2-#4 with Namie at the veeeeeeeeeery top, but this is a bit off topic, don't you think? [With artists like YUI/Hikki mixed in the top 5]

oh, I'm talking about her as a singer... as a fashion icon she is top 3 for sure

Ooooohhh, you mean, you think she's top ten, as far as how well she can sing...? Maybe, yeah, hah. I agree with that. I'd say the top three best singers in Japan are AI, ayaka and Kumi, honestly. But yeah, as far as everything else goes - image, sales, popularity, etc. - Ayu has been and still is in the top five, probably top three.
And yeah... This probably is a little off topic. D: I won't add anymore to the discussion, hah. :X

Maybe what he said should have been reversed: "Is she the most popular? Not really... Most popular female? Not even close..."

It's probably more accurate to switch the conclusions of those two statements. But let's keep calm. ;)

Hmm even GREEN got Gold certification for Chaku Uta full and it wasn't even in top 100 ^^, it is still unknown how Sparkle and NEXT LEVEL did. Sure it does make sense the the old stuff prolly helped to some extent and even when it comes to Nishino Kana, Ayu obviously had more songs on Recochoku in 2009 than her.

When it comes to Chaku uta ringtones, now I doubt that THAT many people love having old and outdated songs as their ringtones especially with so many new releases and hip songs.

As for her popularity, we almost always say that Oricon doesn't show how much is someone truly popular (in most cases), but that the Digital sales are a better indicator of how much someone's songs are generally liked. Well there you go. While Ayu's image/figure might not be close to the popularity that Namie has right now, her songs are obviously way more popular than Namie's were this year (considering the Chaku uta/Full positions and not the overall ones) - and that's the fact :)

note that I am not trying to bring Namie down or anything, if it was Koda Kumi who sold more than 1 million of her previous album her name would be here instead of Namie's, but as the things are, Namie is among rare solo female artists that atm sell better than Ayu ^^

With Days, Sunrise ~LOVE is ALL~, Rule and GREEN she already had a minimum of 1,200,000 for the ranking (minimum of just those songs since the sales are a bit higher/higher than the certifications probably).
Also You were...'s 2 first weeks and BALLAD's first week are added.

Also the new songs that probably sold around 20,000-50,000 each and older charters here and there though yeah I don't think that the whole ayu's discography did play a huge role (imo), but it did help though of course like it would help anyone that was popular.

In conclusion I would say that without the success of Days and Sunrise or without the new material that charted for some time and didn't sell enough to get certificated she would be a lot of positions lower.

Also I think that there weren't many digital million sellers like in the previous year and 2007 but I'm not sure.

Discography or not discography ayu did well digitally this year.

That's what I originally wanted to say :)

Yep, without the success of Sunrise ~LOVE is ALL~ and Days I highly doubt she would be in such a great position.

I agree with SunshineSlayer that having the old discography is great since because it helps even though it's not the majority that made it help a lot of people are still interested in ayu's past works and didn't forget them. ^^

I have a question ayumisrael.. what's chaku uta full PLUS?? and incoming movie clips? whats de difference with movie clips??

chaku uta FULL PLUS from that traslation is something like higher tone or high-pitced version of it. =P

Incoming movie clips are parts from the PV like the verse part of the PV, chorus part, bridge part etc. (Like the difference between chaku uta and chaku uta FULL).

hmm I am only guessing but it could be the whole single?

As for the Incoming clips Tal pretty much said it all, I'd just add that people are supposed to use them as Incoming Call Videos :)

Ayu was so strong this year congrats =D I'm so glad =3

Chaku-Uta Full Plus is like... iTunes Plus.

They're higher quality files that are 320kbps.

.......So Ayu finally achieves those much desired digital sales. Why so many raining on the parade? Did we all forget how many remixes she has? Old or new stuff, for someone who doesnt have a "good" tie-ins, collaborations or a single every 2 months this is very impressive.