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Can Ayu write a sexually themed song?
Does Ayu have it in her to write a song about something of a sexual nature? Or possibly wanting someone in that way? Or even her feelings surrounding the subject? I know her Sparkle PV had a kinky theme in it, with her wearing latex and being surrounded by a group of guys. Very nice for those who like it. :lech Could a song of this nature even tie in with the type of music she does?
This question was brought on by a post in another thread and has me wondering. |
IMO the sexiness of Sparkle PV was more ridiculous than arousing. xD And her 'sexy handgestures' from the live performance were ridiculous, too, so I'm not sure if she has it in her lolol.
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I think sparkle lyrics hints at something and remember that sparkle was frowned apon a little in Japapn (I still dont know fully why) but I dont think thats ayus style in lyrics and I dont think she would ever because its not her, she always writes her feelings into her lyrics etc so I dont see ayu doing anything like koda, for example, any time soon, or sparkle style songs are the closest we will ever get :P
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i agree she maybe could but definatly wouldn't . sight i d love her to sing a song as sexy as koda kumi "shake it " lollll i imagine ayu dancing like that fans would go insane
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---- On topic though. Ayu doesn't need to write explicit lyrics she can just hint at things visually for instance the PVs of Because of You, my name's WOMEN. Also you can't argue she's used sexual imagery in her live performances too (GAME, STEP you, identity, etc.) |
I think her fans, especially her Japanese fans would go insane if she did. I hope she doesn't. I enjoy Koda's music, and Namie has some sexually explict lyrics as well... But it's not Ayu's style to go there, if she does it's a sign og desperacy IMO.. But I don't think she will.. I rather her write about feelings and blue skies, destiny and lost love...^^
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I don't care about lyrics. If the song sounds good - it's good. No matter what the lyrics are.
But Ayu is most known for her lyrics.. so if she writes sexual stuff... yeah her fans would go nuts lol |
I can say that if she tries to write it and produce it, then everyone will just say she is copying Koda Kumi. It doesn't relate to her image, and her lyrics kind of dont even allow for it, cause she always writes about profound things. I can tell that her sales would drop to their lowest.
I dont want her to do it, because it's not her. The performance of Identity at Next Level wasnt that well received, and when Otsuka Ai tried more sexual lyrics, her sales dropped so much... so I wish she doesn't. |
When Ayu does sex...it's more broad, all encompassing. Like Sparkle.
When you talk about sex like Koda or Namie, I mean usually they're talking about going through the act...but Ayu doesn't really talk about things in that respect, she usually has a bigger vision, more time, more feelings revolving around a situation. I know she could do like an in-the-moment type thing...and probably has, I don't remember, but i'm sure it'd be about something like love, and even then she'd scope out. |
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I remember some members mentioned that the lyrics were quite sexual in nature, but when they were translated, people wondered what the heck they were talking about. In the end, I think most of us concluded that Sparkle was misinterpreted as being sexual at first glance, but later was confirmed to not be true. (Referring to masa's comment in his Sparkle translation thread: "If we say "look on enviously" in Japanese without using the idiom, it should be "urayamashi sou ni mite iru". As you see, it's far longer than "yubi o kuwaeru". And I feel it's smart and poetic to use this idiom than to say "urayamashi sou ni mite iru" in direct way." and "I repeat my comment on the page 4 of this thread. "Yubi o kuwaeru" is not a slang but an idiom we commonly use with no sexual image. It means "do nothing but look on something (someone) enviously"." Note many people "wanting the song to have actually been sexual." in the comments for the thread.) |
I remember reading LOTS of comments from Japanese blogs and such which talked about how the inconsistency between the languages was out of character for Ayu.
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Do you have any examples of the blogs that mention that? It's a bit strange to think that Japanese bloggers would be all up in arms over something like that. masa did mention how he felt a little disappointed in the first verse because of the BOYS/GIRLS thing sounding unusual though. It does seem a bit uncharacteristic for Ayu, but then again Sparkle itself was rather... uncharacteristic for Ayu as well. The music style and PV were both very out there in a very un-Ayu-like place.
Looking up BOYS達 and GIRLS達 in goo.jp's blog search seems to have a few people using the phrases in their blogs outside of quoting Sparkle. Like "Oh, here are my girls-tachi!" or "The cast's BOYS-tachi.." |
I actually think she should have one song that talks about sex. But not something like, "Oh yeah, come here, my massive breasts need your hot warm spray, shake it shake it " xDDD but something more profound, or at least a slight reference to it, I don't know. She practically has covered most of human feelings, but those related to physical desire, she is missing, imo.
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I actually don't see ayu writing or singing anything sexual
If she does I would be like wtf O.o and is because ayu doesns't need to be all sexual to get herself popular Sparkle was sexy to me but NOT like "ooooh I wanna hit that" no "just like oooh she's sexy beautiful" |
i don't care and i don't want her to do that !
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I'm sure she could certainly make something that would cause us all to blush, if she tried. Only problem is, it would be awkward, hah... (Not necessarily in a totally bad way - think of the Wacoal ads, like that. :P) And that's not her. :\ Like, her slightly joking about sexuality (Sparkle) is a surprise to most people, and that's as far as I can see her going. Sure, sometimes she'll wear an occasional sexy concert or PV outfit (1 LOVE, my name's WOMEN, etc.), but I really doubt she'll ever sing about anything real dirty....unfortunately. :laugh
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Really... why does a song about sex NEEDS to be explict or pornographic? Really, what's wrong with u guys? xD
Sex is a part of romance, what is a theme she is used to! About sparkle... the "liking fingers" thing on the song is like this: http://www.8pgames.com/novo/wallpapers/bebe3.jpg not like this: http://n1.cdn.spikedhumor.com/1/4230...81280x1024.jpg We have a similar idiom here on Brazil, so, I got really surprised about how many people found it sexual here on AHS Her Sparkle live performance has no sexual moviments and is not intented to be sexual at all |
Ayu can do anything she wants if she really wants to. But with her personality, and nature she was brought up in, she probably wouldn't do it. She could though.
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I thought Sparkle was well received. I didn't know, it wasn't that risque. *cough* latex. I see Koda as hot not sexy. Sexy is more like Namie. gothicayu I would go into cardiac arrest. Shake it was just too hot~ She'd most likely use Shuya as the main guy in the video. I couldn't imagine her backup singers Peco and Yoko dancing in the video though... hpg23 LOL Crystal_Ageha The wacoal ad was too much for my brain to process at the time. It was sexy, but awkward. >.< It's interesting how colorful the responses are in this thread. Her sexual imagery in PVs and live performances are still on the cuter side of the spectrum for me. I think it's in the way she presents herself. It could just be my own warped view of her. I'd sooner associate myself with sexiness than I would her! Looks can be deceiving ya know. She could have her own personal hidden Madonna inside for all we know. lol. I've never seen her do any type of booty shaking, but she did innocently bend over for Shuya on her Identity performance at NL. lol :P Even if it may not be her, reflecting on it, she could make it her own if she were to do a sexy song. She writes beautifully and I'm sure she could use symbolism or be as vague as she wants without making it sleazy. It'd be a good challenge, and an amazing feat to see her pull it off. I'd still go nuts though. :D I think before she gives up music when she's like 80 or something :twink she should do at least one sexual song just to say she's written about everything. Because she nearly has. I just thought of how cute it'd be to see Ayu as a senior citizen singing in her chipmunk voice! Cute! :love |
Hm, it's somewhat unrelated, but I think sex/relationships are part of that category of information that Ayu keeps private. "Private is private! If I tell you, it won't be a secret anymore!" and so on. It seems like one of the big reasons why it seems so weird seeing Ayu be so suggestively erotic during recent tours with the male dancers (and sometimes the female dancers).
It's a bit surprising though at her age that most interviewers avoid asking her questions involving her love life. Perhaps it's one of those things that has on some sort of restricted question list. |
I think if Ayu sang something sexual, it would be hinted, but not all out and more about the circumstances than the act itself...as exampkle I would point out a less intense form of Nana Mizukis Etsuraku Camellia
http://sziur18.wordpress.com/2009/06...s-translation/ (lyrics) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RebisfWgows (song) It hints sex, but has a main theme of forbidden love which is fairly similar to GREEN maybe. Just like Ayu she was someone you'd never expect to sing about sex, but it turned out amazingly well. |
She could, but probably wouldn't. I love when she's sexual in her live performances though, like my name's WOMEN, until that Day..., 1LOVE, and identity - it's just the perfect amount of sexy. If she ever wrote a song about sex, I'm sure it would be tasteful and not trashy.
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I agree with this!! But thinking of a 80 year old Ayu doing the EnergizE performance is just weird to me xD |
i doubt that Ayu would ever write about sexually themed song..
it's kind of not suitable with her image, even though she can sometimes look sexy but still in the elegant way.. she's an inspirational singer with her lyric, so if she ever write about sexual experience, that will be... wow weird haha.. i prefer her to sing such cute songs like EnergizE more than sexual ones whahaa ;D |
what's your definition of sexual? what's ayu's definition of sexual? no one will have a clear idea of it.
even if she can write such songs, she'll probably sing the song and censored the lyrics. i mean she would not let the lyrics be printed out on the album booklet and less likely to perform it live. i still prefer her to write lyrics of her usual style and perform it with tinge of sexiness here and there. it will look much more tasty! =p |
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i hope she would never do that... XD |
Lmao I think I kinda started this discussion... :laugh But okay, where should I start. Imo, she's never been very virginal lol, I don't know what makes some people think that. Is this the same person we're talking about? :laugh So many of her lives and PVs are sexual in some way; costumes, movements, whatever it is. Because of you, 1 LOVE, Sparkle, Mirrorcle World, Ladies Night PVs are the most obvious I guess. Even if the song/PV isn't really related to sex in any way she often has little hints and for example suggestive clothing. But the main point is, she does it in a classy and "read between the lines" way.
I don't think she ever would, and I personally hope that she never ever will make a total smut song. I'm not sure what you exactly mean by wanting her to do a sexual song. A song that just is about sex, no matter if it's in a gentle and only hinted way, or an all-over-your-face dirty song..? But I definitely think that if she were to write a song about doing it, it wouldn't be obvious. She has always written in a way that can have many meanings, hasn't she? In a way that can be interperated in many ways. There are songs in her discography that could be about sex, but she has written them in a way that one can think she's written about love, life overall or whatever it is. Sparkle definitely, and I always thought Boys & Girls had something like that to it too lol. Dolls, ourselves and STEP you could also be interperated that way in my opinion. I probably had something more to say but I forgot so here's my opinion for now. :P |
i hope she wont do that. i dont like sexual themes anyway... i mean,
everyone should have their intimacy at home, but not on the street. i dont care whats ayu's fav sex position. |
Personally I wouldn't want her to go in that direction. I mean, I know she already has, but they weren't explicit explicit, like Kumi's. I don't ever want her to write something overly sexy, it's just not her, IMO.
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exactly! that's what i'm saying.. it's so not Ayu haha lol :D i can't imagine Ayu could come out by singing songs like Kumi's (not Kumi's bad), but i guess that every artist should just stick with their own originalities.. |
Yeah but she gives her idea to someone else.
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Whenever ayu tries to do anything sexual, it just comes across as really dorky XD
She comes across as sexy when she's not really trying that hard, to be honest. The only time I can think of a time where she TRIED to be sexy and it actually worked was the female part of that WE-MEN shoot. Every other time she's been sexy, it's been accidental. So if she ever did a song about sex, I just feel like it would come across as... well, dorky! XD!! |
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Most people here are acting as sex (or speaking or singing about it) is something bad or disgusting. o.O
I don't get that, sex is a part of human life and it can be absolutely wonderful. There are so many ways to write and sing about sex as well. It doesn't have to be explicit or dirty or anything. So yeah, I think Ayu could do it if she wants to. But I don't think she would, cause it's not part of her image and most Japanese surely would be taken aback by it. Just because it's not the Ayu they know. But I do believe that Ayu could write about something new for her. Pressure for example or Workaholics or something like that, she has enough own experience with that assuming that she's one as well. Or the wish to have own children or something different. There are still some things she could write about and she would be able to include her own feelings again like in the past. |
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Wacoal or sparkle are still alright.... But it's pretty unlike for ayu to go so sexual like koda kumi or madonna etc, base on her personality, she won't really do that i guess.:) |
I dont understand how she has no problem being sexual on stage with her dancers but she cant be in her lyrics. she can also be sexy in her music videos if she wants to (1 love, sparkle (if that counts lol), my name's women, talkin' 2 myself (tough fierce ***** sexy))
Normally I would think that it wouldn't fit her to sing anything provocative. It wouldn't fit her, you know, leave it to kumi and her clear heels to handle the song. But with 11 studio albums of love love love love, pain pain pain, relationships, relationships, death death death. It's getting old and repetative. She's singing the same concepts over and over but with different lyrics. I say yes to a sexual song if it means mixing something up and giving us something new that she hasn't done before. Besides, one song? that's not going to kill her. She's had 10 years and over 10 albums to do it and nothing so far. She's 30+ the cutsey crap needs to end....now... |
She could do sex like Ai Otsuka. Very subtle and indirect lyrics. ^^
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I would've flipped if she ever do something like this.
She can do it, but I don't think its her style of music. Remember, sex sells! |
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But, yeah, Ai Otsuka has wonderful sex themed lyrics... One x Time is very sweet for example^^ - About "sex sells" Ayu knows that... she is selling sex since LOVEppears era, even if she never sang about it... |
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There are many times where she is sexy on stage, and in PVs, but she has never been sexual on stage. Remember, anyone can go to her concerts, and we have seen people bring their 3 year old daughters or sons to the concert, its just not appropriate if she suddenly does a sexual routine out of everyones expectation... I think she is a very private person, and anything about sexual or very private things, she won't talk about. Remember, there is Hamasaki Ayumi the person, and Ayu the artist, and I think even now she separates these two, no matter how similar they are. And there is nothing sexual about Dolls... _ _); Personally, I dont want her singing about sex or so. Koda Kumi is there for that, no matter how "tasteful" it is. Ill turn to Koda Kumi if I wanna listen to that, but Ayu is for deeper, less private things. Also, I dont think Ayu's voice really fits into the sexual thing... |
So long as its not trashy I don't care what she sings about, but I'm not sure that an overtly sexually themed song would fit in her catalog. If she was to do it, she'd probably have to be subtle.
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of course she can, it's only a matter of personal choice. I would be surprised and humored when she actually decides to write a sex song :laugh
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lol @ my random thought of Ayu singing something like JUICY in her EnergizE voice.
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http://www.weblo.com/asset_image/492...672/Koda_Kumi/ koda had one showing her t back for a dvd i forgot which . however knowing how old is ayu now i dont think it would be appropriate . she should have done it when she was younger . i 'd love ayu to cover juicy !!! lmao |
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Maybe you misunderstood my post? I said that I don't want her to do anything explicit either. And I didn't claim she's done anything like that before, I might have messed up the meanings of sexy and sexual in my previous post. So I'll just sum up: She can be sexy. But she does it subtly and so that it's classy. In my opinion she has never, most likely will never, and I personally hope that she will never do anything explicit. If she did write a song about sex, she would probably write the song in a thoughtful and indirect way. Which is her style. |
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^-Lol okay maybe I should delete that freaking post since it's nothing but full of poor word choices as people have proved. :laugh :tired
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Haha I can Never see her singing WANT ME WANT ME & SHAKE IT for sure. (and Ima Sugu Hoshii)
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Sparkle & 1 LOVE are HOT songs. until that Day... as well. Just change lyrics to Ima Sugu Hoshii like and here you go! Ero-kakkoi Ayu. :P
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But I like she doesn't show this side all the time. And i don't think her "sexy performances" are ridiculous or bad. Ayumi is a complete different artist that Koda. She is more serious about her lyrics. |
I agree with deli, when she tries to act sexy, it just comes off as dorky :laugh. That's what I was trying to say >_<.
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She could but I don't think it fits her aesthetic. (She's know for her emotional, hopeless romantic and melancholic side not her sexy side - in terms of lyrics)
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