Ayu Rumors: Official Chat Thread IV
 

This is the 4th Official Ayu Rumors thread.

As always, the purpose of this thread is to discuss all rumors or unconfirmed news/speculation about Ayumi Hamasaki.
It is important to post these things here and not in the News section, to keep things as organized as possible and prevent confusion between rumors and actual news.

So to clarify again:

• Please post anything that isn't official in this thread. Topics posted in the News section that belong here WILL be moved here.
• Please be as respectful as possible. While constructive debating is fine, there needs to be a considerable regard for proper behavior and politeness. Any form of spamming, flaming, or just plain rudeness will result in posts being trashed or deleted. See AHS Forum Etiquette.
• When posting new rumors, please include a source if at all possible.
  

Thanks. :)

Well, any new rumors? :D

To pick it up from the last thread: I think [PerMisson] is now 100% guaranteed fake, since Microphone is not on it! Thank god, I HATED that tracklist! I did like the idea of AT09 and Ayumix -Future Classics-, but I'll gladly sacrifise those for a better album title and tracklist xD

For all the people who missed it:

Credit: truehappiness

My personal lulzy favorites:
Missoon 5 (Tokio Hotel Monsoon / Maroon 5? :no)
Heal A World (too MJ sentimental, hate it)
missing (like, an episode of CSI)
CHANGERS (even worse than Otsuka's Frienger)
Re:rose (what? Rose? Or as rise/rose/risen?)

Yeah, that is a horrible tracklist. But you know what, after seeing the titles EnergizE, Load Of The SHUGYO, I really won't count on the actual tracklist to be non-cringeworthy at some point. XD

:roflmao This totally screams fake! Microphone's not even in it! XDD

This was before Microphone though.

I hate how someone spun it into a "real tracklist" and mistranslated all of the details. The CD was to come with AT09 and ayu-mi-x ~Future Classics~, not release in the same month. There was also no PV DVD, since the limited edition was a 2CD+DVD (aka AT09), hahaha.

I'm so glad that tracklist is fake. It's funny how people try to create Ayu-ish tracklists and fail so miserably. I don't think anyone can predict her tracklists outside of the singles. Look how many people were shocked about the title "Microphone," as if it were totally outside of the realm of possibility LOL.

This is another rumor tracklist I have seen in AHS

1. Intro ~ Beginning of Sunrise~
2. Sunrise~Love is all~
3. TaskwitMircophoneundertheSun
4. Microphone
5. Taskdropmyphone
6. BALLADS
7. ~After ballads~Another Intro
8. You were...
9. You were ~my bra for trust~
10. Recycle~intro-mega mix~
11. Sunset ~LOVE is all~
12. Outro ~ Moto~
13. Lalala ~Thanks 4 buying my intro album~

That sounds more like something you would write, to be honest, kotora...

everything possibly happens in AHS. :P

Btw , this is not rumor, but I am curious if any news talks about ayu's reaction about the threat letter for avex company.

Well.. who ever made up that fake tracklist, at least we have to give him/her credit for coming up with Funfair! :yes Quite Circus-themed!

ahahaha so.....original xD
Big fake *O*

[QUOTE = kotora; 2245958] This is another rumor tracklist I have seen in AHS

1. Intro ~ Beginning of Sunrise ~
2. Sunrise ~ Love is all ~
3. TaskwitMircophoneundertheSun
4. Microphone
5. Taskdropmyphone
6. BALLADS
7. ~ After ballads ~ Another Intro
8. You were ...
9. You were ~ my bra for trust ~
10. Recycle ~ intro-mega mix ~
11. Sunset ~ LOVE is all ~
12. Outro ~ Moto ~
13. Lalala ~ Thanks 4 buying my intro album ~ [/ QUOTE]

The title 'You were ~ my bra for trust ~' is very no matching with Ayu. IMO, this album is just for pervert person.

kthxbye

No interested in arguing with you.

Hahaha. Note: No Don't look back and only 3 PVs.

always be my baby doesn't sound like Ayu's style lol

omg this made me think of ayu singing Opera! :laugh

hope that one aint true lol

:P

This is the rumors thread, of course it's not for real.

Thank god this is fake...XD I don't want 4 versions.

time to say goodbye?...L'arc en ciel :D

I really don't doubt 4 versions at all lol

I actually wonder how many she'll do...and what she'll do this time.

No no no....
Release on 2010-04-28?
So strange xD
and again an ayumix x_x

LOL ah ah ah ah
no comments on this please! it's..whoa, no words.

Funny anyway.

When we come up a rumor tracklist, we need to think about "Sexy little things" and "Don't look back" now.

About that Circus rumour album: "always be my baby" and "my hero" is so Mariah Carey-ish, haha.

And " TO BE FREE" is an Ami Suzuki song. o_O

http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/07/24...e-an-abortion/

sounds absurd, but what do you guys think about this rumor?

a woman crying in a hospital must mean she got an abortion >_> where's the reasoning in that....

^i think they mean ayu was crying in the hospital.

i know it's fake, but i just felt like hearing what others had to say about it.

Hmm if it was real, I would probably think it's because of her hearing~
Not because of an abortion...

^ Probably. It could be anything, though. It's a pretty unfounded report, either way. As they all are.

it's from july 2007... I don't trust the abortion thing... but if it's true that someone saw her crying I think it's because it was when the doctors said her she lost completly the hearing of one ear.... she said it, that it was at the begining of 2007 so...

very true.
since when does crying = abortion?

that abortion thing is old but if it is true it's for her hearing problem for sure, as others said.
btw lol @ always be my baby, Sexy little things is weird but lol that's awful.

abortion is another epic win rumor , just like the rumor ayu has STD.

^lol, wow, i wonder how someone would get a hold of that information. xDD

I just found out something so random I just didn't know where to post it, so here y'all go!

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/8194/humming47.jpg

Of course, since this is the Rumours thread, we can now think of all kinds of funny things regarding the order of 4 and 7, and maybe it doesn't matter at all, or maybe the DVD version had a different composition or mixing, etc etc
But it's most likely just a typo! :laugh

(btw.. if it's actually meant to be 4/7 on the DVD, don't blame me I've only got the CD-only of that album ;))

Tracklist for new album - 15 songs
 

http://bloggfiler.no/steffster.blogg...6846741774.jpg

I just received this tracklist from a friend in Japan. Previously, he has been quite right when it comes to new tracklists from Avex. This may actually be the correct track list ^^ But of course, no guarantee..

http://steffster.blogg.no/


Edit: Oh no, I'm very sorry. This sould have been posted in the rumor thread. I got a little carried away, some admins please move the thread? I'm sorry :(

OMG I think this new album will be called Circus!

Not going to believe anything until it's on the official site but if this is real I'm liking that I can only imagine one or two of the titles being interludes.

This tracklist sounds as if it is true!
And I like the song names a lot^^
I thin the album will be called Rck'n'Roll Circus ;-)

Like when? Do we even know if the album has finished recording yet?

And that's a pretty strange setup with two different ballad sections... and why would Rock'n'Roll Time happen AFTER the rock section of the album is already over just before the ballads? We'll see when official news comes out.

01.Circus
02.Sexy little things
03.Microphone
04.MIND
05.dead moon
06.BALLAD
07.player
08.Don't look back
09.Sunrise ~LOVE is ALL~
10.timetable
11.Rock'n'Roll Time
12.Flame out
13.You were...
14.Bracelet
15.Sunset ~LOVE is ALL~

I don't understand the need to place the tracklist in an image file instead of typing it out/copy pasting, by the way. Doesn't that make it more suspicious since you say you got it from someone that you know in Japan who has been right about previous tracklists (like which?!) but for the most part other than GUILTY which we got early from TeamAyu on accident, no tracklists have been leaked by any single person? With Ayumi Hamasaki-related material, anything that isn't released from a shop or an official Ayu-related information source (her website/TeamAyu/mu-mo) tends to be fake.

Bolded tracks would be what I consider to be possible interludes.

tracklist looks like siimilar to official site font.

o really woaaa 15 tracks beayutiful news

if this is the true tracklist i like it :yes

It's probably like that to try and make it seem more convincing if it's fake. (But oh, I see... he took a screencap of his blog entry that mentioned it. And linked to his blog... huh?)

Please, for now, do not believe this as the truth, because for the most part we have had some pretty strange news coming from Maxker in the past. The strangest was when he said that he spoke one on one to Max Matsuura in English and Stan about Ayu possibly starting an overseas career. Maxker was at AT09, but why would Max and Stan want to talk to him? There are also various articles that have been fabricated and posted on ayu.no and believed to be the truth or from someone named "ruyki@AMF/Ayumifans" when no such user actually exists. If you remember an article about Ayu wanting to go to Europe to start a career, I think that it was "translated" by ruyki, but every time one might search for it, they would find that it can always been traced back to ayu.no.

everything sounds like an interludes titles haha

I just wanna say
Sunset~LOVE is ALL~ is not a perfect ending song

1) not sure how I feel, so keeping an open mind until it's confirmed.

2) anyone else think of sailor pluto? Lol dead scream

wow thanks for the info..
and a Circus???
oh well, that looks kind of REAL!








oh waiit.. i think ppl will get the hype up again with "oh it's so Britney-ish" hahaha XD

I think it may be very similiar to real tracklist... I'm sure that album will be called Rock 'n' Roll Circus then...

I think the "Bracelet" track could be true. But I'll wait for official information before believing anything.

omg i dunno what to say!!

if it is true, cool :D if it isnt, oh well xD


i just hope the songs are good :yes


thanks for that!

can"t waittttttttttt
kyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....
all track awesomeee.i hope ayu make this new album awesomee...
can"t wait the cover....lallaaa~

No, but it was he who leaked the information regarding the trak list of guilty, before it was published on teamayu. From what I understand, he can in a way see the updates before others, via the source code of the page. Or something like that. I'm not quite sure.

I agree that that's a strange setup, but you never know. I think at least the track list looks a little more promising than those we have seen previously. No Engrish * Phew * But I am not quite 100% convinced myself, before it is on the official website. ^^

I vaguely remember the GUILTY tracklist being leaked to us via someone from AyuChina and many of us thought it was not the real deal. Are you sure this person is the same person?

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showth...ghlight=guilty

These are members who are in China/Japan, but why would they contact you of all people with the tracklist and not post it at the forums (AyuChina and AyumiFans) that they frequent?

In fact, you didn't even know about the GUILTY tracklist until someone posted about it (~angel-ayumi~ and Alexander de Aaroy)..

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showpo...1&postcount=21

2 days after the tracklist was found, it was posted on TeamAyu, so perhaps we'll see in a day or two if this is the real deal or not.

Fake or real..I think it sounds really nice.
so i guess the title IS Rock'n'Roll Circus then...
lol Ayu please surprise us?
most of the titles sounds ayu-ish...and if Sexy little things didnt appear before...im so sure people will slam this

edit:Ahhh truehappiness...that rumoured list brought back so much hyped memories of mine...and this is doing the same too...tracklist leaking a month before...well, it has indeed happened before then, hahaha

ohh by looking at the tracklist, the name of the tour, im somehow feeling that ayu is gonna get inspired by the britney's tour xD dont smack me okay, is just a feeling :innocent

i hope not though! i want something fresh!

btw, how many freaking ballads are gonna be in here?! i mean, there's ballad, then maybe prayer, you were..., bracelet and sunset?? wows xD (without thinking of the possibility that player and bracelet could be interludes o.o)


edit: thought it was prayer not player lololol :P

OMG OMG OMG!!! I love the sound of all of the song names!! I'm expecting a lot from this album!! ^___^ it has to be AWESOME!!! though, have to admit the sound of it and the name of the tour reminds me of Britney... -___- I know, I know... shouldn't even compare them... but sounds sooooo familiar.... T___T (not a big fan of Brit, but still....)

The title written there is "player" not "prayer" ;) But I think we should wait for the official tracklist before speculating.

is the third degree really necessary? It clearly states "unconfirmed" and this person is just passing along possible info.

you know.. im pretty excited for this new album! its been awhile ive been excited with a ayu release


dead moon sounds so dramatic XD i love the title's timetable and flame out :luv2

Why the same happens here?
BRITNEY WASN'T THE FIRST WITH ALL CIRCUS THEME. If you want to write how this reminds you of Britney, go away from here...

Yes, I know that, but it doesn't hurt to be cautious.

The screencapping his own blog + linking to it in the post is somewhat suspect to me along with his mention of someone who had previously leaked tracklists being "right" and "accidentally" posting this in the News forum instead of the rumors thread... (the rumors thread is in the Chat Room)

Also, I'm suspicious because Maxker has posted information in the past from various sources as "unconfirmed" that ended up being later proven as completely false. Many Japanese people frequent his blog, so I wonder if perhaps he's aware of this and wants to circulate rumors through ayu.no?

I am not attacking, I am simply questioning because I am curious to know more about what the origins of this tracklist are. Keeping things vague (like who it was that gave him this tracklist) and leaving people guessing only makes me wonder even moreso than if he just posted this from nowhere.

jeez man... take a chill pill, there's no reason to attack like that =.=''


the tracklist sounds pretty true and Ayu-ish :)
i wouldn't mind if this were the real deal :D

01.Circus
02.Sexy little things
03.Microphone
04.MIND
05.dead moon
06.BALLAD
07.player
08.Don't look back
09.Sunrise ~LOVE is ALL~
10.timetable
11.Rock'n'Roll Time
12.Flame out
13.You were...
14.Bracelet
15.Sunset ~LOVE is ALL~

For me, i think these are the interludes. A prelude to BALLAD will be amazing. player totally sounds like a flirty song leading to Don't look back...i dunno. Suddenly BALLAD seems out of place and Don't look back -> Sunrise is kinda weird. Sunrise suits as an opening song...

I'm guessing Don't look back is getting a PV...and hopefully another amazing song will...there has been too many amazing Ayu songs void of PVs >.<
i wish it will be Flame out...

but question...Rock'n'Roll Time leads on to a series of ballads?...hmmmm

I'll not start screaming from happiness until I see this on an official site, but if it's really the tracklist for Ayu's new album, then I'm going to be very, very, VERY happy indeed!

I LOVE the songtitles, especially "Circus" and "dead moon".

sorry, I didn't want to annoy anybody... :no just said what came to my mind... I think there is still a freedom of speech these days!! I love Ayu really much, and I DID say that I'm not the Bitney fan, but the title sounded familiar... so please don't tell me what to say and where to go... I can say whatever I like!!! =P

^ but it not means that we have to write everything which comes to our mind. Posts in "it's so Britney-ish" style have been appearing since tour title was announced. Why can't anybody understand that it's getting annoying and boring?

...if this is the playlist..it's very interesting ! It's way better than the other rumours xD Here's hoping <3

Lol... I do understand if its annoying, but I'd say I'm not a mind reader to know what's on people's mind so I did know you'd get so annoyed... plus it's the world of art and in order to be good you need to be original! Ayu is original and with every new album brings something new, but that title and some song names do remind of Britney that is all I said!! lol don't get sooooo pissed off lol, just ignore "brit" comments lol ha ha ha ha

lmao omg i need glasses rite now xD

It's a great tracklist allover 15 songs .. very great

dead moon HAHA Sailor Moon comes into my mind :P

^^^ it's not against you, so stay calm ;) I'm thinking about that all situation what is happening since long time. I can't let you to don't say your thoughts. You're not only one who said about Britney, even here in that thread.

Not bad, if it's the real tracklist then it'll be amazing, 'cause the titles are all really unique. ^^

You may not be attacking, but you sound really really harsh and just a little rude in your replies. So maybe we can all tone it down a little? No use getting so upset, Maxker himself also said it is just a rumour. :)

I won't believe it until it's official, but I do thank this person for bringing whatever he knew forward, however he got it. After all, there are even threads where people make up what they want the album to be, right? So even if it's just another fake we'll just have to shrug it off and move forward, since after all, sooner or later the actual thing is going to come out, right? If it's another fake we'll know for sure then. Until then, I really think a mod still SHOULD move it to rumours area.

If it's the real deal it sounds quite cool by the titles, but it's also rather confusing for the strange set up it has that other people have already pointed out.

album title songs are both interludes?
From A Song for XX to NEXT LEVEL
except for MY STORY(But this title is special :yes)
all of them have full song~.~
So I think Circus is not an interlude

IFFF this is the real track list (which I doubt it is) it is pretty interesting. I'm not disappointed. I like "dead moon" and "Flame out". "player" sounds weird though...

If this is real, I'm guessing "Flame out" is an interlude connecting the more upbeat songs (like "Rock'n'Roll Time") to the ballad section with "You were..."

I'm siding with th this time... It is annoying when people post rumored track lists in the news sections. And he doesn't even have a reliable source. :/

Ok. I'm studying IT technologies and programming. I know how TeamAyu site works. What you've got from words of your friends is impossible, unless he is working as administrator of the TeamAyu or know administrator's password^^
Anyway if that was scheduled and seen by your friend from TA site we can only expect it to be posted on TeamAyu in 1-2 days. I don't really think they schedule all this information for more than 24 hours. And maybe your friend saw album title somewhere there also? Or they will post tracklist first leaving album title "Undecided"? :lech
sorry :innocent
I don't mind if it's true, but I really hope it's not^^ haha :D

ha ha ha... I know I'm reading now!!! :D

Perhaps I do sound a bit harsh and rude. But I feel as though he did not post it here by accident. (Blog promotion? I don't know.)

I think this is the result of seeing many people lied to by Maxker, and seeing them believe what he's said as the truth in the past. I don't mean to be rude, but I am just trying to warn people that he has not exactly been one of the most honest news reporters at this forum so that they don't end up disappointed when things turn out to not be true. I'm grateful that he did the A WORLD is ONE project, but I have to say that I had my doubts at the time. You have to admit though, that after years of seeing him report news and not seeing any of it have any ounce of truth at all, things are going to seem suspicious.

It was rather strange when the GUILTY tracklist came out, since the tracklist was not on TeamAyu at the time and somehow it was retrieved. I'm not exactly sure how they did it, but shawn2623 stopped posting at Ayuchina after that incident and I can't find a post by rongayu about it (they are the two who apparently found the tracklist on TeamAyu before it was posted...)

maybe rock n roll time will be like pieces of seven, but backward...start off all upbeat and then change to a soft sounding interlude.

As much as I want to believe this, I just hope that the song styles arnt messed..like how LOVE'n'HATE -> Pieces of SEVEN -> Days...people find it awkward...of course individually it was cool but haha yes, there was something funny...like how rollin' -> GREEN..

Flame out could mean, the lights out and now the album will end of slower...Probably that may mean Rock'n'Roll Time is...upbeat then..hopefully..seeing how Sunrise segments that part. & It sounds like a song most deserving of a PV apart from titles like "MIND" and "Bracelet"

O yea, either Circus or Rock'n'Roll Time probably has to be a full track..but then again, interludes could be crucial for the mood of the album hence Ayu chose them as the title tracks..o gosh...i dunno...............

*tormenting wait..especially this true-false thing*

What about RAINBOW? The song was written after the album came out

well that right there needs to be taken somewhere else :shrug

The tracklist of this album has the same feeling as NEXT LEVEL. Though the titles are not similar at all but they're different than her previous albums. I'm looking forward to hearing the new songs and watch the new PVs :D

I don't think so, as his credibility here imo is relevant. This is just a matter of trying to get to the bottom of where some of this news comes from. If my reasoning for not trusting him as a news source seems a bit harsh, then so be it, but I don't think it's wrong of me to wonder.

I do admit that my choice of words [lying] really are a bit harsh, and I'm sorry for that.

but u are accusing him and stuff about things that most of us have no clue of... and is not like it actually matters if this is the right tracklist or not.

the real has to come up sometime, wondering and dreaming about all the made up ones still fine. and im fine with blog promoting, is not like im gonna go to that blog anyway i dont care lol

and im pretty sure the mods are gonna move this thread away from here, so why do u need to be so grumpy

Okay, let's say in these words: probably it wasn't TeamAyu leak, but avex promotion leak? I doubt they would use for TeamAyu site a system which can leak scheduled information. Also, it's almost no way someone saw the tracklist and didn't mention album title, number of versions, price, etc.
Anyway, I almost accepted that it's true. I was disappointed by GUILTY tracklist also, though I loved NEXT LEVEL^^

But RAINBOW is planned to make a full song the time RAINBOW released~!
Maybe the same as Mirror there'll be a full song after this 11th album.
-----
And about the GUILTY tracklist
It was post by a avex staff originally at AC(he was a totally ayufan too :yes)
But it is forbidden to do something like this so he deleted that
AF has no avex staff

I see what you mean. I'll back down from this.

That's what I was wondering, but it seems like people might have hacked into TeamAyu, or it was released early on accident for a short amount of time before being removed? (It was found on the main website 2 days afterward...)

!!! I see. That makes complete sense now. So that person was probably fired then, which probably leaves this tracklist in the dust.

I have no idea if it is promotion for his blog, I just put that out there because he randomly stuck his blog link into the post. It was not two or three things. It was about a dozen or so instances, haha.

One or two, or even three things happen and suddenly you wonder about him. Understandably, you don't want people to get all hopeful and then get really let down if all this turns out to be fake and just promotion, purely his own personal gain.

For now I guess you should just relax; if it's a fake, which we'll find out soon enough, then you'll know. And on another note, simply saying this is all promotion for his blog, is just giving him more recognition.

I've visited the forums time and time again for a long time now, but I haven't truly been active long enough to know who is who and who did what and such, forgive me for that, I assumed it was only a few times.

I didn't try to make you out to be the bad one here or anything. I find the reason you got upset/angry as very understandable; you don't want people to get hurt by something that could've been avoided. And I'll also admit it was a little weird to stick his blog in there for no real reason. I'm just trying to tell you that the truth comes out as time goes on, right? If there was some hidden agenda it'll come out eventually so no need to stay worked up about it.

Wouldn't want you to ruin your day, or overall mood because of such a thing =]

If the tracklist is true, I will loved it:luv2:luv2:luv2

though i'm taking this post lightly, the titles aren't my cup of tea.

plus, it's "Sunrise 〜LOVE is ALL〜" not "Sunrise〜LOVE is ALL〜" (written without the space)

player, MIND, Bracelet, Rock n roll time. Seriously?

The other tracks sounded so...unpromising :(

LOL..on one side, I'm hoping it's true. On the other, now that it isnt leaked by an OFFICIAL AVEX STAFF (poor him...leaking tracklists, which are always doubted upon)...it makes this one seem just like any other tracklist.

of course, i appreciate whoevers effort. and it's really nice to have something new to talk about hahaha. (seriously LOVE "dead moon" and "player")

:yes:yes:yes

I know, I'm just concerned, is all. If we got explanations of where things came from and why this and why that, and this ended up being true, I'd be completely fine with it. But it just seems so.. strange. We'll find out in due time.

I never said he was a bad person, I don't know where you got that from, but I never questioned whether or not he was nice or not in real life. I'm just wondering about his news and his sources is all.

Friends (also AHS members) who met Maxker at Wednesday were very positive about him, so no need to accuse someone you don't know in real life. I met his friend, norwegian_blue at Thursday and she was also really nice. And yes, AJ was also in London. He was a very nice person :yes I don't know his history with this forum, but it isn't because someone does "bad" things or lies about something on the internet, that they aren't good persons in real life :) So stop accusing people you don't know. Even if it are only words, words can hurt someone.

about GUILTY playlist, it was AF that leaked it, and they said they got the tracklist from TeamAyu, during a "site maintenance"

Hoping the all the tracklist are full songs.:P:P:P

:yes:yes:yes
WE JUST CAN WAITING FOR THE OFFICIAL NEWS.