why did you close my thread :(
 

if it wasnt because of the original post and because of the responses, why didnt the staff just remove tjhe inappropriate responses? deleting my entire thread is such a lazy thing to do. :( does that mean if i go to an ayumi news thread and make inappropriate responses the thread will be deleted too? of course it wont. then why pick on me? this is really unfair.

Even if the inappropriate responses were deleted, other people would post more inappropriate responses anyways~

a warning posted on the thread is much better, ive seen staff do it that way too :(

To be clear, no one's picking on you. As you can see by looking in the trash can, there are plenty of threads in there that you did not create. The staff does not have a personal vendetta against you.

As Pommy pointed out, inappropriate comments would have continued to be made even if the current ones were deleted. The same thing would happen even if we posted a warning. Absolutely nothing we could do would stop it from happening.

Also, not all of the members may remember this, but we have had many threads similar to that in the past and all of them have ended up deleted because they got out of hand. History here has shown that those types of threads usually end up as trouble.

if "history" has shown that those threads are not welcomed then you might as well add it into your guidelines or something

EDIT: ok thats fine, thak u for explaining

You should know that some people here cannot do anything BUT make inappropriate comments, which is why the thread was closed. I'm pretty sure there is already something having to do with anything "sexual" on the forum in the rules and guidelines. :shrug

It certainly is in the rules:

Probably every 4-5 posts in the thread were inappropriate and worthy of infractions, but since the topic was already in that aisle, it would be too much to give that many infractions.

Trashing threads happens all the time, when we know it's not gonna stay on track. Plenty of news threads have gotten trashed because of repeated off topic talk, same goes for artist threads.

Regardless of who would've started that thread, it would've ended up in the trash.

I personally don't think I'm one of them. :o

If you haven't noticed, any thread or post having anything to do with anything sexual is in the trash can.

I wonder why it took four pages to get deleted. It's already in the rules and every community has them and we must respect them even if they can get annoying it does keep order I guess.

Don't worry, I've had threads deleted that made me sad too :P

^there isn't a mod roaming around AHS 24/7 waiting for an inappropriate thread to pop up you know. xD

i don't really see the big deal. it got deleted because it got out of hand, not because you made it. don't worry about it. ;]

Plus sometimes we discuss as a staff what to do with a thread before one of us goes ahead and takes action. Only really heinous stuff usually gets canned right away.

Oh my word.
Will someone please explain to me, why an entire thread in theory will be trashed if one person posts the word buttsecks?

I just don't get it. Sorry.

Please explain where that was stated.

Så gerne.

the ayumi as a gay icon thread in the chatroom could use some moderation, its becoming a place to spam

I don't know if you're referring to what I wrote or the rule quote, but if the original post has sexual content, yes it will get trashed right away. That's the rules. No thread will get trashed if there's one inappropriate or sexual post.

Så simpelt er det.

lmfao. The nature of the thread was already against the rules? Even if the inappropriate posts got deleted, there's no stopping more and other members to post similar posts; it's a risk that's obvious with threads of such nature, so...

sounds like a desperate cry for attention.

That didn't really answer my actual question, but I'll take it. Thanks.

hi sugarbasil, why isnt the ayu as a gay icon thread trashed? the entire thing seems to be about the sexuality of her fanbase, which shouldnt be discussed on AHS according to the rules and guidelines.

^ If you think it should be trashed, then report it.

I'm not trying to be a prick or anything but I'm just confused why since the "nature of the thread" really is directly against the rules, four mods saw and posted their sexual feelings towards Ayu and still it when on and on and then after it was deleted. It's like, of course it was going to get out of hand, just from the simple thread title.

I learned this the hard way, but the mods actually dedicate a lot of time and discussion as to these sorts of things. I thought mods just log on like the rest of us and enjoy the different threads and just delete unnecessary/inappropriate content but there's a lot more work to it so they might be discussing the Gay Icon thread ATM even. Although that thread started before the "Ayu sexual attraction" thread but whatever.

The only thing I was confused about was why they were contributing to it themselves. lol

The "Gay Icon" thread developed in a far more mature manner than the "are you sexually attracted to ayu" thread. Even though a discussion about her being a gay icon is related to sexuality, it isn't directly about being sexually attracted to something. That spawns explanations and jokes about how she should grow a penis, etc., in order to be attracted to her, which is inappropriate and directly against the rules.

Well, so shouldn't we be really serious on the rules? I don't know why that thread that you talked about above seems to be appropriate, while the thread opener of this thread here is complaining why his thread got shut down...

Why shouldn't we, though? Just because it's on the chopping block doesn't mean we don't have opinions either...plus, sometimes we try to mediate discussion so we DON'T have to delete it. Doesn't always work. -_-

Cause wasn't it straight out against the rules and something that would obviously get out of hand? I mean seriously, in other words, the thread was a "Would you **** Ayu?" discussion, literally. That's the only reason I was surprised that you guys actually posted in it.

I can't speak for the other mods, but I like posting in doomed threads anyway. :yes

Seriously, and it's not like, you know, the thread was directly aimed at any discussion of the members' sexuality, which is where most (I would probably bet on all actually) of the problems with that category have stemmed from.

Why can't you guys just be cool?

imo it shouldn't be completely black and white, because when there is no leeway at all, things become rigid. I think it's best to just try to use your best sense when going about things. If you think that it will be deleted, or considered for deletion right off the bat...then maybe think a little more about how you will form your thread, and perhaps make it a little different, ex. more subtle, or don't do it at all.

So, say, instead of blatantly saying "Are you sexually attracted to Ayu", maybe you could say, "Would you date Ayu?" or "Would you consider Ayu as a potential partner?" As those would imply that a person would probably have to be sexually attracted to her to answer "Yes". Those threads would also probably have a lot of posts talking about how sexy Ayu is, and probably some slightly inappropriate ones...but even though those things may fall into the "inappropriate" category or be similar to other things...they aren't so in your face as to end up being spammy, or obviously against the rules.


The mods have a pretty good system going, and they've always discussed things. They're smarter than people might think, and they do, at least I believe, understand that being complete nazis about everything, and saying "OH THAT is kinda similar to THIS, and THIS is against the rules, so we must INSTA-DELETE" isnt always the best way to go about things, especially when dealing with other people.

Of course similar considerations come up between things that are similar, but say, that one borderline thread that has an infraction worthy post every 5 posts, compared to a similar borderline thread where everyone is being mature and the discussion is enriching...I mean...imo, the enriching thread shouldn't be trashed, because when nice things get trashed, we all just lose out.

...and I really think the tone that is set by the thread starter in the first post has A LOT to do with how people go about posting in your thread.

So...basically...if you want to have a thread that might be slightly in the grey area of bending the rules:
1. Be smart about it.
2. Set a more formal tone for the thread.
3. Don't be so blatant and crude.
4. Make sure people don't have the chance to just say something simple like "YES I WOULD **** AYU."
5. Don't be stupid in your own thread.
6. Perhaps report posts you know will get people riled up before other people have a chance to get mad.
7. If the thread is getting out of hand or spammy, try to mediate it yourself if you don't want it trashed so badly...if it's impossible...and the members are being impossible, then oh well, at least you tried.


DISCLAIMER: I am not supporting breaking the rules in any way. I only support the idea that sometimes, in some cases, threads that are a little more controversial can bring about some of the best discussion.

I liked your post and wish everyone would create threads with that mentality.

What sort of threads have been produced from controversial topics that had great discussions? I'd like to go through them even if they're old. I haven't really been here that long comparatively.

xD lol