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Uknow! 22nd July 2018 11:46 AM

Just the beginning -20- TOUR 2017 DVD/BD release
 
Just the beginning -20- TOUR 2017 DVD/BD (Chapter 1 and 3) will be released as a part of the new album「TROUBLE」on 15th August. At the moment we don't know anything about chapter 2 (Just the beginning ~sacrifice~).

Footage from Ayu's website (thx to maxikot)

Setlist
Chapter 1
ayumi hamasaki Just the beginning -20- TOUR 2017 2017.7.17 Osaka-Jo Hall

01 ourselves
02 WARNING
03 NEVER EVER
04 Because of You
05 Pieces of SEVEN
06 Virgin Road
07 Distant Memories
08 my name's WOMEN
09 appears
10 RED & BLUE
11 Fly high
12 UNITE!
13 talkin' 2 myself
14 Mirrorcle World
15 Voyage
16 Movin' on without you
17 You & Me
18 SURREAL ~ evolution ~ SURREAL
19 Boys & Girls
20 Who...
21 Love song

Chapter 3
ayumi hamasaki Just the beginning -20- TOUR 2017 2018.2.20 Okinawa Convention Center

01 I am...
02 Moments
03 A song for ××
04 RED & BLUE
05 Shake It♥
06 STEP you
07 Memorial address
08 Last minute
09 Pieces of SEVEN
10 Bold & Delicious
11 progress
12 FLOWER
13 ourselves
14 Ivy
15 Feel the love ~ XOXO ~ Lelio ~ You & Me ~ AUDIENCE
16 Boys & Girls
17 Love song
18 SEVEN DAYS WAR

Album + GOODS info
Spoiler:
Type A + DVD + GOODS
AVC1-93967/B
¥9,288
★ mu-mo shop Limited edition Limited edition
★ Luxury BOX specification
★ both CD and DVD digipack specifications
★ Original photo card enclosed
★ Tour logo rubber key ring

CD

未定 (全5曲収録予定)

DVD

ayumi hamasaki Just the beginning -20- TOUR 2017 2017.7.17 Osaka-Jo Hall

01 ourselves
02 WARNING
03 NEVER EVER
04 Because of You
05 Pieces of SEVEN
06 Virgin Road
07 Distant Memories
08 my name's WOMEN
09 appears
10 RED & BLUE
11 Fly high
12 UNITE!
13 talkin' 2 myself
14 Mirrorcle World
15 Voyage
16 Movin' on without you
17 You & Me
18 SURREAL ~ evolution ~ SURREAL
19 Boys & Girls
20 Who...
21 Love song

__________________

Type B + DVD + GOODS
AVC1-93968/B
¥9,288
★ mu-mo shop Limited edition Limited edition
★ Luxury BOX specification
★ both CD and DVD digipack specifications
★ Original photo card enclosed
★ Signed (Print) Heart Shaped Clear Keychain

CD

未定 (全5曲収録予定)

DVD

ayumi hamasaki Just the beginning -20- TOUR 2017 2018.2.20 Okinawa Convention Center

01 I am...
02 Moments
03 A song for ××
04 RED & BLUE
05 Shake It♥
06 STEP you
07 Memorial address
08 Last minute
09 Pieces of SEVEN
10 Bold & Delicious
11 progress
12 FLOWER
13 ourselves
14 Ivy
15 Feel the love ~ XOXO ~ Lelio ~ You & Me ~ AUDIENCE
16 Boys & Girls
17 Love song
18 SEVEN DAYS WAR


________________

Type A + Blu-Ray + Goods
AVC1-93969/B
¥10,368
★ mu-mo shop Limited edition Limited edition
★ Luxury BOX specification
★ both CD and DVD digipack specifications
★ Original photo card enclosed
★ Tour logo rubber key ring

CD

未定 (全5曲収録予定)

Blu-Ray

ayumi hamasaki Just the beginning -20- TOUR 2017 2017.7.17 Osaka-Jo Hall

01 ourselves
02 WARNING
03 NEVER EVER
04 Because of You
05 Pieces of SEVEN
06 Virgin Road
07 Distant Memories
08 my name's WOMEN
09 appears
10 RED & BLUE
11 Fly high
12 UNITE!
13 talkin' 2 myself
14 Mirrorcle World
15 Voyage
16 Movin' on without you
17 You & Me
18 SURREAL ~ evolution ~ SURREAL
19 Boys & Girls
20 Who...
21 Love song
________________________

Type B + Blu-Ray + Goods
AVC1-93970/B
¥10,368
★ mu-mo shop Limited edition Limited edition
★ Luxury BOX specification
★ both CD and DVD digipack specifications
★ Original photo card enclosed
★ Signed (Print) Heart Shaped Clear Keychain

CD

未定 (全5曲収録予定)

Blu-Ray

ayumi hamasaki Just the beginning -20- TOUR 2017 2018.2.20 Okinawa Convention Center

01 I am...
02 Moments
03 A song for ××
04 RED & BLUE
05 Shake It♥
06 STEP you
07 Memorial address
08 Last minute
09 Pieces of SEVEN
10 Bold & Delicious
11 progress
12 FLOWER
13 ourselves
14 Ivy
15 Feel the love ~ XOXO ~ Lelio ~ You & Me ~ AUDIENCE
16 Boys & Girls
17 Love song
18 SEVEN DAYS WAR

ayumint 22nd July 2018 11:53 AM

Oh can be replaced chapter 2 to the first one?

alternarist 22nd July 2018 11:55 AM

Yes it is confirmed. She announced it at her last concert in Osaka, which I was there.

Uknow! 22nd July 2018 11:55 AM

^ Thanks!

Maybe Ayu is going to release chapter 2 with the new album or in another moment. Iirc, 2nd chapter was the only one with a title (sacrifice).

freedreamer 22nd July 2018 12:18 PM

Damn I would love to see CHAPTER 2.5
Maybe they are gearing for a SACRIFICE standalone with both CHAPTER 2 and 2.5

Uknow! 22nd July 2018 12:22 PM

TA message

Quote:

『M(A(ロゴ))DE IN JAPAN』のリリースから約2年2ヶ月ぶりとなる、ニューアルバムの発売が決定!
全曲シングルクオリティの渾身の5曲を収録した、デビュー20周年を迎えたayuからの贈り物 。
カメラマン下村一喜氏撮り下ろしによるジャケット写真違いの2形態に、昨年行われた全国60公 演にも及んだ ロングツアー「ayumi hamasaki Just the beginning -20- TOUR 2017」の大阪城ホールで行われたアリーナツアーファイナル(2017年7月17日)と、沖縄コンベ ンシ ョンセンターにて行われたホールツアーファイナル(2018年2月20日)をそれぞれ収録した 豪華BOX仕 様のmu-moショップ限定盤を加えた、計6形態でのリリース!
Google translation lol (sorry)

The release of the new album will be decided for about two years and two months from the release of "M(A)DE IN JAPAN"!

A gift from ayu who celebrated the 20th anniversary of debut, which included five songs of all songs single quality.

Mr. Kazushi Shimomura photographer Mr. Shimomura was taken at Osakajo Hall of the long tour "ayumi hamasaki Just the beginning - 20 - TOUR 2017" which lasted 60 performances last year, We added a mu-mo shop limited edition luxury BOX specification that included the arena tour final (July 17, 2017) and the hole tour final (February 20, 2018) held at the Okinawa Convention Center respectively , Release in total 6 forms!

_________________

In ayu website there is footage from 2nd chapter I think (edit: there isn't, I was wrong :( ), so maybe it is going to be released apart. In discography you all can watch the versions of the new album.

http://avex.jp/ayu/

________________

DVD
ayumi hamasaki Just the beginning -20- TOUR 2017 2017.7.17 Osaka-Jo Hall

01 ourselves
02 WARNING
03 NEVER EVER
04 Because of You
05 Pieces of SEVEN
06 Virgin Road
07 Distant Memories
08 my name's WOMEN
09 appears
10 RED & BLUE
11 Fly high
12 UNITE!
13 talkin' 2 myself
14 Mirrorcle World
15 Voyage
16 Movin' on without you
17 You & Me
18 SURREAL ~ evolution ~ SURREAL
19 Boys & Girls
20 Who...
21 Love song

_____________

ayumi hamasaki Just the beginning -20- TOUR 2017 2018.2.20 Okinawa Convention Center

01 I am...
02 Moments
03 A song for ××
04 RED & BLUE
05 Shake It♥
06 STEP you
07 Memorial address
08 Last minute
09 Pieces of SEVEN
10 Bold & Delicious
11 progress
12 FLOWER
13 ourselves
14 Ivy
15 Feel the love ~ XOXO ~ Lelio ~ You & Me ~ AUDIENCE
16 Boys & Girls
17 Love song
18 SEVEN DAYS WAR

holy_arrow 22nd July 2018 12:44 PM

No released date announced?

tokyoxjapanxfan 22nd July 2018 12:45 PM

^ they’re released with the album, at the moment they’re not separate entities.

maxikot 22nd July 2018 12:46 PM

I extracted the link to youtube of the footage from Ayu's website, no sound but still sth interesting:

Aderianu 15th August 2018 08:39 AM

Were ayu sick? She seems out of breath at the clips that I saw. Especially at Shake it

I am... + Moments

Shake it

FLOWER

ourselves

Uknow! 15th August 2018 10:31 AM



Ryusei 15th August 2018 03:18 PM

Ayu coming for Kuu's brand in shake it lol

metropass 15th August 2018 03:29 PM

I could foresee that we won't get any release of Chapter 2 in the near future. Last time she sang altena in AT10 and it was finally replaced by Last angel in RnRC Tour FINAL 7days Special. We still haven't gotten any official footage of AT10's alterna. And I saw some photos of the venue for the final show of Chapter 2 in Yamaguchi, unlike Chapter 3
final in Okinawa, it seems that no extra cameras were set for DVD / BD recording. Maybe ayu really don't wanna let those who haven't attended her concert to see the live performance of alterna. :P

summerain 16th August 2018 02:52 AM

MC (chapter three) subbed in chinese

Aderianu 16th August 2018 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by summerain (Post 3283479)

I like the second part with ayu's laughter

Uknow! 16th August 2018 09:23 AM


Aderianu 16th August 2018 09:38 AM

Voice at Memorial address is so low

melissalove 16th August 2018 11:29 AM

The album seems solid now after all the footage shown.

rainbow_smile 16th August 2018 11:37 AM

Calsh of Queens

freedreamer 16th August 2018 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryusei (Post 3283419)
Ayu coming for Kuu's brand in shake it lol

i could swear they are like bffs LOL
kuu just tagged her in her igstory saing ayu gave her gifts in return

Aderianu 16th August 2018 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainbow_smile (Post 3283525)
Calsh of Queens

*facepalm*

maxikot 16th August 2018 12:24 PM

*headsamsh*

Chris85 16th August 2018 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uknow! (Post 3283514)

The part with fans freaking out on stage is so cute, it made me smile.

Aderianu 17th August 2018 10:04 AM

Memorial address

Ivy

holy_arrow 17th August 2018 10:14 AM

OMG, I am so excited to dead for these releases.
Looking forward to get the download link
Love Ayu

supaka 18th August 2018 10:23 AM

There is a full rip of DVD ? :)

holy_arrow 18th August 2018 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supaka (Post 3283776)
There is a full rip of DVD ? :)

I'm still waiting. Nothing news from jpopsuki

maxikot 18th August 2018 07:34 PM

Link to decent quality video of Love Song (facebook feed):
https://www.facebook.com/zhengfangz/...2333223797948/

thinkingoutloud89 18th August 2018 08:39 PM

I'm sorry but the digest sounds...not awful..but I guess I won't enjoy it much. Her voice is not instable but it just sounds off at many places. I hope all of you have fun watching tho.

Deep snow 19th August 2018 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud89 (Post 3283852)
I'm sorry but the digest sounds...not awful..but I guess I won't enjoy it much. Her voice is not instable but it just sounds off at many places. I hope all of you have fun watching tho.

yes. I kinda wish she had chosen the insanely robotic vocal correction i.e. the one we got for her pre-M(A)DE IN JAPAN tour. it could sound unnatural at places, but I guess it does its job of masquerading obvious pitfalls.

melissalove 19th August 2018 10:14 AM

Ayu’s voice can definitely sometimes sound a bit off, but a lot of times her over reactions tend to ruin her vocals.

maxikot 20th August 2018 06:24 PM

Step you:
https://www.facebook.com/zhengfangz/...5916866772917/

Machiko 20th August 2018 06:42 PM

I love that she took fans on stage, lucky!! I would pass out probably

summerain 20th August 2018 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxikot (Post 3284102)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA so cute <3

*back to being a cold bitch* It is fine.

Linza-mo 24th August 2018 10:56 AM

I had tears in my eyes seeing the fans crying haha

Sky High 24th August 2018 11:07 AM

Lucky fans :D

Chris_Duvall 24th August 2018 11:07 AM

I'd faint for sure if she'd take me on stage!

Uknow! 24th August 2018 12:03 PM

Chapter 2 has been recorded because in Chapter 3 there are snippets from Sacrifice.

summerain 24th August 2018 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uknow! (Post 3284621)
Chapter 2 has been recorded because in Chapter 3 there are snippets from Sacrifice.

Best news of the decade (at least my decade)

adrtwb 24th August 2018 04:41 PM

Maybe the next release will be titled as “Sacrifice” and comes with Chapter 2 DVD!

Uknow! 24th August 2018 08:05 PM

Chapter 2 bad quality and funny pics lol



I really need chapter 3 to be uploaded :(

SunshineSlayer 24th August 2018 09:43 PM

^ Heck, I'll take chapter 1 getting uploaded at this point. It really makes me think that not many people have bought it. I don't think it's ever taken this long for an official release to be posted.

ayuinh.k? 25th August 2018 12:10 AM

Chapter 3 has been uploaded

https://www.bilibili.com/video/av302...18521773859306

Cahz- 25th August 2018 12:21 AM

Chapter 1 Blu ray is up on Jpopsuki!

SunshineSlayer 25th August 2018 12:50 AM

Woo hoo!

cosmicfirefly 25th August 2018 01:44 AM

Yay, thanks!

holy_arrow 25th August 2018 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cahz- (Post 3284675)
Chapter 1 Blu ray is up on Jpopsuki!

35GB LOL
Yaya

EndOfTheWorld 25th August 2018 04:31 AM

It may take a long time because blu-ray files are very large and upload speeds are so slow.:no
I watched Chapter 3 through bilibil and I thought it was great. Lots of energy and everyone looked like they had a lot of fun. I am... and A Song for xx were impressive. I felt so happy for Ayu during these performances.

Andrenekoi 25th August 2018 04:47 AM

I'm at the encore of the Chapter 3 right now. Damn Ayu, this has to be one of my favorite of your concerts!

summerain 25th August 2018 05:11 AM

I've watched Chapter 3 and I'm really impressed. It's a very simple show, but stage lighting was superb. Perhaps it's her most theatrical show in terms of creating a whole atmosphere with just a few resources - "Tour of Secret" being the last one of this kind.

I know, she sounds hoarse and her voice are damaged and etc., but she really delivers the stage presence with special glow. A Song for xx, the whole cute session and the last act of the main show are the highlights for me. Oh, and I was very moved by Love song + SEVEN DAYS WAR combo.

Corvina 25th August 2018 06:08 AM

The Blu-Ray ISO for both concerts is up on Baidu since yesterday morning:
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/5852943789

Direct links:
Chapter 1:
https://pan.baidu.com/wap/init?surl=...0EG3utf1Cmq1cw
PW: SLS7

Chapter 3:
https://pan.baidu.com/wap/init?surl=...0DXKwp52qlQe4g
PW: W072

You don't have to register, but because the files are so big, you might have to download the Baidu download application, if you wanna download from there.

metropass 25th August 2018 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by summerain (Post 3284645)
Best news of the decade (at least my decade)

I bet she won't release the whole concert in the near future.

ayu-michan 25th August 2018 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corvina (Post 3284701)
The Blu-Ray ISO for both concerts is up on Baidu since yesterday morning:
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/5852943789

I'm not sure how to download since don't have a baidu account :( seems like you need a chinese phone number to register

Corvina 25th August 2018 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu-michan (Post 3284713)
I'm not sure how to download since don't have a baidu account :( seems like you need a chinese phone number to register

Sorry, here are the direct links.

Chapter 1:
https://pan.baidu.com/wap/init?surl=...0EG3utf1Cmq1cw
PW: SLS7

Chapter 3:
https://pan.baidu.com/wap/init?surl=...0DXKwp52qlQe4g
PW: W072

You don't have to register, but because the files are so big, you might have to download the Baidu download application, if you wanna download from there.

kendelle 25th August 2018 09:47 AM

Whoever is uploading that 7GB version of chapter 1 on JPS must have the slowest connection ever lol. I'm only 10MB in and it's been 6 hours hahaha I wish my PC had a BR player or I'd try and do it myself! Hopefully the 3rd chapter comes up soon, I haven't had chance to watch my copies...

Aderianu 25th August 2018 10:35 AM

To download so big files I need to login in download application. I have an account and can login on site, but not at this app. Why? :(

nevermind. it's up at jps

Uknow! 25th August 2018 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3284695)
I'm at the encore of the Chapter 3 right now. Damn Ayu, this has to be one of my favorite of your concerts!

Completely, I loved this concert from the start to the end, it's beautiful and I don't want to skip anything.

SunshineSlayer 26th August 2018 12:02 AM

Yeah, despite the hoarseness, chapter 3 is really, really good.

melissalove 26th August 2018 12:48 AM

Her best since rock and circus 7 days. Timmy had me rolling, dancers weren’t in the way and ayu was the focus. Couldn’t have asked for more.
Edit: Chapter 3

cosmicfirefly 26th August 2018 01:27 AM

Just finished watching Chapter 1, and I thought it was so good! Some of the parts at the beginning seemed almost theatrical, especially NEVER EVER, and I liked it because it felt like I was watching a musical or something. She had really good energy here and sounded good too. I only wish she had sung rainy day, since the stage during appears would have been perfect for it lol And from what I've seen of Chapter 3 from the high quality upload (I still need to finish it), it looks really good too, even though her voice isn't at its best. I am.. through A Song for xx is amazing.

Deep snow 26th August 2018 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EndOfTheWorld (Post 3284693)
It may take a long time because blu-ray files are very large and upload speeds are so slow.:no
I watched Chapter 3 through bilibil and I thought it was great. Lots of energy and everyone looked like they had a lot of fun. I am... and A Song for xx were impressive. I felt so happy for Ayu during these performances.

A Song for ×× is definitely my favourite here. There was a moment when she extended her hand from the stage to touch a fan's—I cried just from looking at how happy the fan was. her voice also became somewhat stronger compared to when she sang I am.... amazing.

ayu-michan 26th August 2018 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corvina (Post 3284714)
Sorry, here are the direct links.

Chapter 1:
https://pan.baidu.com/wap/init?surl=...0EG3utf1Cmq1cw
PW: SLS7

Chapter 3:
https://pan.baidu.com/wap/init?surl=...0DXKwp52qlQe4g
PW: W072

You don't have to register, but because the files are so big, you might have to download the Baidu download application, if you wanna download from there.

Thank you so much!!!!

PinkShinigami 26th August 2018 12:00 PM

Does anyone else have problems with the ISO's from Jpopsuki? I downloaded the rips from this forum, but chapter three isn't exactly great quality >__> I'm soooo looking forward to watching it, the preview was great, but would love to find a better rip

SunshineSlayer 27th August 2018 07:13 AM

Chapter 3 is seriously amazing. I had watched parts of it before, but finally saw the whole thing tonight. One of her best concerts; not just recently, but ever. And I agree, a song for xx is probably the best one (it's right up there with her Dome Tour 01 performance), but really all of the songs were great. It's a quite over the top concert (putting it mildly, haha), but it actually works. I was actually watching this with my mom and she said, "Something must have happened to Ayu right before the concert started", haha.

Hopefully, some lapsed Ayu fans will somehow see this show.

Corvina 27th August 2018 07:25 AM

Watched both as well.
And I prefer chapter 1.
Her voice is partly pretty bad there, but her energy is amazing!
It's pretty rare to get energy like that from her!
And the setlist was flowing better as well than in chapter 3.
The cute part in chapter 3 is horrendous and she takes the cute voice even over in some other parts after that as well. Last minute is so overdramatic it's even worse here than in CdM. Plus her voice in the chorus of flower is pretty painful to listen to - she did better the last time she performed it.
And even though I usually don't mind Timmy he is pretty annoying there.
I do prefer ourselves in chapter 3 compared to chapter 1 though.

freedreamer 27th August 2018 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adrtwb (Post 3284647)
Maybe the next release will be titled as “Sacrifice” and comes with Chapter 2 DVD!

Im so not against that :luv2 S(A)CRIFICE

alternarist 27th August 2018 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adrtwb (Post 3284647)
Maybe the next release will be titled as “Sacrifice” and comes with Chapter 2 DVD!

Good idea, but we probably needa wait for another 2 years and 2 months.

edit: And i just realised that the "lucky fan" who got invited up to stage during Shake it was Koki Kameda the boxer. So it's not any random fan?

freedreamer 27th August 2018 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alternarist (Post 3285046)
Good idea, but we probably needa wait for another 2 years and 2 months.

edit: And i just realised that the "lucky fan" who got invited up to stage during Shake it was Koki Kameda the boxer. So it's not any random fan?

It was random on 19th. Just that he was there on the finale so they got him up...maybe not so random for that day haha

roxaskh2fm 27th August 2018 05:17 PM

https://www.bilibili.com/video/av302...338.__bofqi.15

Chapter 1 stream

Sky High 27th August 2018 11:38 PM

Chapter 3 is amazing, I love SEVEN DAYS WAR, it was so touching.

holy_arrow 28th August 2018 01:11 AM

I really prefer chapter 3 to the chapter 1.
FLOWER and ourselves in chapter 3 kill me

God_ayu 28th August 2018 11:38 AM

I thought that the male fan was quite poor thing hahaha >_< he looked very shocked and awkward.

Really loved the ourselves performance in Chapter 3. I liked the chapter 1 version but chap 3 is just so levelled up. The short “rewind” part towards the ending of the song was really cool.

And Timmy spoke abit more Japanese this time? A bit annoying for the “sexy boys... sexy girl” thing.

AJFmzk 28th August 2018 12:12 PM

Finally had a chance to watch my copy of chapter 3 and listen to jacket B cd. They actually didn't tamper too much with her vocals on this one. That was pretty much exactly how Ayu sounded on the day except a few note fixes and the hoarseness, and vocal flaws are much more apparent on the DVD. Ayu did sound better on the 19th, but she sounded really good overall considering her ear problems and that it was the last of a very long tour. While the cute section was kind of interesting to see in person, I actually cringed seeing it on the DVD. It just doesn't work for me, and I actually like both songs. In my opinion Timmy was very annoying. There was one part where he made me laugh but other than that I Found him annoying. I love the set list of chapter 3 and it's one of my favorites of her shows despite Timmy and the awful cute section. In terms of the cd, I like the reversed track list much better and the songs are starting to grow on me, though W still falls kind of flat, which is a bit disappointing since Rock Ayu is my favorite Ayu (I am, moments, A Song for xx, memorial address, Last Minute, FLOWER, Love song and SEVEN DAYS WAR were the highlights of Chapter 3 for me since they were on my bucket list to see live in person)

PinkShinigami 29th August 2018 08:23 PM

I finally watched Chapter 3, and omg. Definitely one of her best concerts to this date (though nothing beats M(A)DE IN JAPAN). Aaaaand it's definite - if I'm ever going to see her, WATERPROOF MASCARA! This one was a serious tearjerker :( Soooo so beautiful. And a perfect selection of songs.

However, I'm starting to get the feeling that ayu has a serious sex addiction lol. She's just like a sex addict... it has to get more and more crazy. I won't say that I'm against it, that's totally up to her, it's just... weird... *yes, I'm looking at you, Shake It <3 performance, and TIMMY!*

Katsuyuki012 29th August 2018 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PinkShinigami (Post 3285341)
...

However, I'm starting to get the feeling that ayu has a serious sex addiction lol. She's just like a sex addict... it has to get more and more crazy. I won't say that I'm against it, that's totally up to her, it's just... weird... *yes, I'm looking at you, Shake It <3 performance, and TIMMY!*

🤣

hidekirby 29th August 2018 10:57 PM

Seems like they didn't over-edit her vocals this time which is a relief. I'd rather have flawed but correct vocals over perfect-robotic-emotionless ones.

I wasn't interesting in watching those lives at all but the reactions here make me want to give it a try!

truehappiness 30th August 2018 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PinkShinigami (Post 3285341)
However, I'm starting to get the feeling that ayu has a serious sex addiction lol. She's just like a sex addict... it has to get more and more crazy. I won't say that I'm against it, that's totally up to her, it's just... weird... *yes, I'm looking at you, Shake It <3 performance, and TIMMY!*

I think that showed itself during the Mannie marriage and then became more obvious with later relationships and performances. Back when she did my name's WOMEN's video, it was like "Oh, it's so cute she's trying to be sexual" but it's probable she's always loved sex and it's just become apparent "recently".

EndOfTheWorld 30th August 2018 12:41 AM

I blame Timmy and Leslie Kee mostly. Ever since she got super close to those two earlier in this decade things started to change. That's how we got the Party Queen aesthetic basically.:laugh

Andrenekoi 30th August 2018 12:42 AM

Ayu always had a somewhat sexual image. And IMO it always felt more like her liking sex than using it as a theme to look edgy.

truehappiness 30th August 2018 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EndOfTheWorld (Post 3285360)
I blame Timmy and Leslie Kee mostly. Ever since she got super close to those two earlier in this decade things started to change. That's how we got the Party Queen aesthetic basically.:laugh

I don't think anyone is really to blame since this has probably always been there. If not them, someone else would have awoken it. Leslie had been around Ayu for ages so I don't think he was the reason for anything and he even did the original Party Queen shoot with the crowns and purple dress then Ayu may have been like "I don't like this concept" or something.

EndOfTheWorld 30th August 2018 01:27 AM

I know Leslie had been working with her for many years prior but it was around this time he started making those Super photobooks, Super Ayu, Super Manny etc. I don't think it's a coincidence that the Party Queen photoshoot and PVs came about when both Timmy and Leslie were working closely with Ayu. But yes, it is ultimately her creative decisions.
I do also agree that Ayu always gave us a glimpse into her sexual part of her. But back then I felt it was depicted differently than now.:think

Andrenekoi 30th August 2018 02:49 AM

Those evil gay people corrupting pure virgin snowflakes :P

summerain 30th August 2018 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 3285357)
I think that showed itself during the Mannie marriage and then became more obvious with later relationships and performances. Back when she did my name's WOMEN's video, it was like "Oh, it's so cute she's trying to be sexual" but it's probable she's always loved sex and it's just become apparent "recently".

See sadistic and very sexualized version of that performance at ASIA TOUR. 2008.

AJFmzk 30th August 2018 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by hidekirby (Post 3285353)
Seems like they didn't over-edit her vocals this time which is a relief. I'd rather have flawed but correct vocals over perfect-robotic-emotionless ones.

I wasn't interesting in watching those lives at all but the reactions here make me want to give it a try!

Yeah, chapter 3 sounded more like it did on the actual day, though the hoarseness and vocal flaw are more apparent on the video, and I agree, sounds better the less they fix, generally speaking.

cosmicfirefly 30th August 2018 04:26 AM

Talking about Ayu's sexy side just makes me think of STEP you, where one of the versions of her was the sexy one lol. Since then, and before with my name's WOMEN which was mentioned, she's had more sexy videos and performances (Lady Dynamite, Sparkle, etc.). But I wouldn't worry about her being a sex addict or anything for enjoying sex. She's a grown woman who seems to be more and more comfortable with sharing that side of her in her music. And she's not the only female J-pop singer that has had sexual videos/songs. I get it's not everyone's cup of tea (I personally prefer her more subtle sexy stuff for instance) but I wouldn't blame Timmy, Leslie, or anyone else for her decisions.

KPL 30th August 2018 04:34 AM

I watched Ch1, Ch3, and namie's Final Tour on DVD, and I can't help but begin to notice what different kinds of performers they are.

Granted that ayu's concerts nowadays have much lower production value and that her vocal quality has been unstable, somehow her performance conveys much much more emotion and, to some extent, energy, which really reach the audience even via DVD. Idk, maybe it's her movement, or her expressions and voices (these can be overkill such as in Last Minute), she really has a unique and extremely powerful way of connecting to the audience. It's a fascinating paradox - on one hand, she's an actress performing a story line; on the other, she's a real person whose emotions are more genuine than anyone.

man, talking about individual performances: appears in Ch1 was just beautiful in every way (arrangement, stage, costume, dance, singing). ASFXX in Ch3 = <3 for reasons I wont repeat. And the two ourselves at the beginning and at the end - that's some well thought-out and fantastically delivered concepts there.

I was reluctant to watch ayu's recent concerts because they don't look appealing on paper. I didnt want to watch them also because they can be easily overshadowed by other artists' more expensive, dance-intensive and well-advertised shows, but I'm glad I gave these two a try - her unique way of performing just cannot be captured in still images or 1-minute digest!

Andrenekoi 30th August 2018 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmicfirefly (Post 3285374)
Talking about Ayu's sexy side just makes me think of STEP you, where one of the versions of her was the sexy one lol. Since then, and before with my name's WOMEN which was mentioned, she's had more sexy videos and performances (Lady Dynamite, Sparkle, etc.). But I wouldn't worry about her being a sex addict or anything for enjoying sex. She's a grown woman who seems to be more and more comfortable with sharing that side of her in her music. And she's not the only female J-pop singer that has had sexual videos/songs. I get it's not everyone's cup of tea (I personally prefer her more subtle sexy stuff for instance) but I wouldn't blame Timmy, Leslie, or anyone else for her decisions.

Because of You

SunshineSlayer 30th August 2018 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by summerain (Post 3285367)
See sadistic and very sexualized version of that performance at ASIA TOUR. 2008.

Or the whole Sparkle music video. I don't feel like this is new. Well, particularly I don't because I went to the Team Ayu 2016 tour and Shake it was performed exactly the same way.

cosmicfirefly 30th August 2018 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3285378)
Because of You

I can't believe I forgot that one! Actually, if you think about it, her sexy image even goes back to her early album covers: LOVEppears, I am..., RAINBOW, even Duty, although these are much more toned down in comparison to ones like Party Queen and the box cover of TROUBLE.

As a side note, every time I remember the original Party Queen shoot I wish she hadn't scrapped it, or at least had released an alternate version using it. It was so well done.

yamadashun 30th August 2018 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmicfirefly (Post 3285391)
As a side note, every time I remember the original Party Queen shoot I wish she hadn't scrapped it, or at least had released an alternate version using it. It was so well done.

What is that? Have I missed something?

truehappiness 30th August 2018 08:11 AM

It's the shoot they used for how beautiful you are and then shown in 'full' in SUPER Ayu sold at the tour. It seems to embody the "Party Queen" aesthetic but it appeared she scrapped the concept when she wanted to do the one we ended up with.

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112605

They originally planned a photobook too for the same day as Party Queen's release but the entire thing got scrapped until it resurfaced as SUPER Ayu.

jean-baptiste 30th August 2018 01:31 PM

^Wow, I had no idea! "how beautiful you are" has one of my favorite covers so I always felt it was a shame it was used simply for a digital single. Such potential.

Zeke. 30th August 2018 02:14 PM

It's funny cause I think a lot of people might give ayu more creative credit than she actually deserves. Sure she is talented, but those early years where everything was super polished and iconic probably wasn't her doing at all. Either that, or her team nowadays doesn't know how to execute her ideas properly anymore.

The Party Queen concept switcheroo, as well as the LOVE + again thing were her ideas, or at least I feel so, and they kind of fell flat. Perhaps not entirely terrible ideas, but they have the feeling of not being carried out in a solid and professional manner, which in turn feels unpolished and amateur.

Amalgam 30th August 2018 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 3285362)
I don't think anyone is really to blame since this has probably always been there. If not them, someone else would have awoken it. Leslie had been around Ayu for ages so I don't think he was the reason for anything and he even did the original Party Queen shoot with the crowns and purple dress then Ayu may have been like "I don't like this concept" or something.

Loveppears and Duty’s covers were considered “sexy” back in the day too.
I think that’s it’s always been there, just in tiny doses.

Uknow! 30th August 2018 08:20 PM

1LOVE pole dance, the prostitute in the PV.
Because of You.
Sexy Little Things (bisexuality in the video of the arena tour)
until that day... orgy in the performance.
Never Ever from Best CDL.
GAME and My Name's Women performance from AT2015.
Decision from AT2008.
Wake me up performance.
Step You from AT2006.
Connected CDL01-02
Naturally Arena Tour 2002.

She has been expressing her sexuality and being sexy in her career for a long of time, that's not the only meaning she wanted to convey with these performances though. Moreover, I always felt that Ayu is very sexy when she is singing rock. About You from AT2010 is pure sexyness with her gaze, in a sense that she's atractive to me not that she is trying to be/look sexy.

PinkShinigami 30th August 2018 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 3285357)
I think that showed itself during the Mannie marriage and then became more obvious with later relationships and performances. (...)

Yeah, I remember thinking it was a bit funny that she married a "male model"... I just couldn't imagine it (but I was like 14 at the time, young and stupid lol). Then when I found out a few weeks back that Maro had his porn debut after they broke up, that was just downright hilarious.. :laugh Oh Ayu, which types are you going for?


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Those evil gay people corrupting pure virgin snowflakes :P

I knoooooow :laugh Does anyone know if Timmy is actually gay, though? Not that I mind at all, but the whole gay pride thing he's got going on at stage is just too much. It's not sexuality, it's fetishism. And it would be fine if it was during my name's WOMEN and Shake it<3, but I find it awkward that he's always dressed like that :laugh But again, not judging, that's totally up to them... I just think it's very misplaced, especially next to sweet, innocent(looking) Peco.


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But I wouldn't worry about her being a sex addict or anything for enjoying sex. She's a grown woman who seems to be more and more comfortable with sharing that side of her in her music.

Nah, don't worry, I didn't mean it literally. That's just honestly what I thought of when I watched Chapter 3 - as I said, it has to get more and more crazy. But it's not like it's crazy at all compared to what happens behind people's closed doors :laugh And even if we like the style or not, I think it's great that she's confident enough in her ways to actually do it. As it gets more sexy on stage her popularity keeps falling, but she doesn't care, she does what she wants - and compared to so many other artists, she looks like she's having so- much- fun- at every single concert. She's having a blast and that's the most important part!


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And the two ourselves at the beginning and at the end - that's some well thought-out and fantastically delivered concepts there.

Ugh, I thought ourselves sounded horrible in chapter 1 - she just couldn't match her voice with the song at all. But in chapter 3, it was absolutely amazing and a huge relief to me!

Andrenekoi 30th August 2018 09:32 PM

^Yeap, Timmy is as gay as it gets :P

BlackSilence 31st August 2018 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by melissalove (Post 3284831)
Her best since rock and circus 7 days. Timmy had me rolling, dancers weren’t in the way and ayu was the focus. Couldn’t have asked for more.
Edit: Chapter 3


This is literally me.

I didn't understand a few choices they made there, but everything else was great.

I haven't watched any of her concerts in ages, and after watching these two and a-nation, i kind of forgot how much power and prescience on stage she's got. She is a performer for sure. And just once again made me think of GACKT from back in the day. So far she's the only one i haven't given up on yet. And hopefully i won't need to anytime soon.

Also somehow watching the two concerts made me appreciate the whole gang more, it's not an Ayu concert without them lol
And i loved the fact that they got fans on stage, i really thought that dude will be a bit uncomfortable but he was surprisingly fine xD

Someone pointed out she's way too dramatic in some songs, i actually like when she goes mad on stage. I like that explosion.

P.S. I am always amused by how she's covered in more and more glitter in every concert lol

jiarongisme 31st August 2018 03:45 PM

Wow I just watched Chapter 1 and I have to say I enjoyed the TROUBLE version more than the WOWOW version. Not the best Ayu concert by any means by still rather enjoyable. I'm not really a fan of her trying to be a hype girl for her dancers/band/the audience though. She hasn't been really great at doing that in recent times and she's just doing it so much more often in this concert ahahaha. At least it wasn't as bad as during the CDL I guess.

freedreamer 1st September 2018 06:14 AM

I just watched Chapter 1 last night. I would the concert's energy was VERY HIGH and there was just so much jumping and pumping fists kinda atmosphere going on. I do love the stage design. Always loved a stage that was more than just an extended runway.

But I couldn't get over how a lot of it was very conceptless. I didnt get what the concert was going for. It had Moulin Rouge moments and then that Military moment but Fly High came out half cute half badass which was such a pity. I mean, the only thing I did observe was this "ONSTAGE PERFORMER - BACKSTAGE DRAMA, MELANCHOLY" idea. Was she trying to say something to the audience?

I felt like the lightning was VERY one note. It was purplish/pink and bright. The only wow part was the fullblown red scene in WARNING's opening. Back in the day, we probably got more lasers and pyros idk. It felt disjointed to me but Ayu was the one that was sustaining the whole energy and vibe. Sometimes I just felt like she let those acrobatics do too much. In this concert alone, they had so many flip around moments during her non-singing parts. Every song could potentially go in that direction.


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