Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai

Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai (http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/index.php)
-   Asian Music Chat (http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=19)
-   -   Why did Japan move on from the pop divas? (http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125317)

inthezone 2nd May 2021 03:43 PM

Why did Japan move on from the pop divas?
 
back in the 00s the pop divas dominated j-pop, Ayu, Namie, Utada, Kumi, Boa etc. were all selling very well. Nowadays thy seem to completely ignore these kind of artists, why is that?

YUKARI 4th May 2021 01:27 AM

Nishino Kana was also pretty big. and Kyary Pamyu Pamyu

I hope we'll get a new big star very-very soon. jpop's been quite boring lately

KarenPang 4th May 2021 03:17 PM

Because the current generation in Japan is not into towards Japanese solo acts any longer even though a few of them still command a lot of respect with some still going on strong after so many years

It's unfortunate frankly cos not a lot are into Johnnys , LDH , let alone the giant AKB family tree

That said , there're a few male solo acts that're doing fine & are also having the same issues as the female solo acts too

adantatu2 10th May 2021 07:36 AM

Aimyon, Lisa and maybe Aimer are big female solo artists, but I don't now if they are in the Divas' category ? Maybe not

MKAyu 11th May 2021 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inthezone (Post 3340007)
back in the 00s the pop divas dominated j-pop, Ayu, Namie, Utada, Kumi, Boa etc. were all selling very well. Nowadays thy seem to completely ignore these kind of artists, why is that?

I think "big" is not in right now in Japan. Utada is still doing well with her stripped-down, low-key style. But Kumi, BoA, Ayu (and Kyari Pyamu Pyamu) are all "big." Big effects. Big visuals. Loud music. Super drama. In-your-face sex appeal. Huge hair and ostentatious money consumption.

Young people in Japan now seem to like . . . well, "quiet" isn't the right word, with Ado's angry rock being such a big deal. But the anger is a common man's anger ("screw all this pressure!") with no flashy star in the center or expensive effects. Japan now is worried about money and the future, so it's hard to enjoy the same things they did when on top of the world and feeling flush like twenty years ago.

tokyoxjapanxfan 15th May 2021 11:13 PM

A lot of the popular acts now are extensions of other media as well, such as the huge rise in voice actors becoming hugely successful singing acts, as well as the continued success of “anime song” singers.

There’s also a kind of push for anonymity from the singers themselves. Animated videos instead of featuring the artist, hiding their face behind masks/hair, etc.

Japanese youth aren’t very vocal about current topics, so I wonder if it’s through their music choices that they’re expressing their uncertainty for their future?

15-20 years ago, while nowhere near the bubble, Japan was still doing quite well. In 2008 is when it all came to a full stop (Lehman Brothers), then 2011 earthquake, then 2020 pandemic. Essentially three huge economic crushing events in succession for the past three decades... it’s kinda crazy. Now they’ll have to also deal with the huge economic loss from the Olympics.

Female sexuality and empowerment is also quite repressed at the moment. There’s even an illustrated book popular in elementary schools and middle schools called Kawaii Rules (kawaii no rule) and it literally has portions in it that look like they could’ve been lifted from a 1950s housewife guide. Like how to “bend over properly” if you drop something as to not look “tired or defeated”, or how to “softly” recommend something if you disagree with an idea. I was shocked when I saw it being discussed on TV.

visionfactory 16th May 2021 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YUKARI (Post 3340057)
Nishino Kana was also pretty big. and Kyary Pamyu Pamyu

I hope we'll get a new big star very-very soon. jpop's been quite boring lately

I don't have faith no more the current stars are so boring and they've seen to have move on that direction for a while

inthezone 17th May 2021 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 3340075)
Because the current generation in Japan is not into towards Japanese solo acts any longer even though a few of them still command a lot of respect with some still going on strong after so many years

It's unfortunate frankly cos not a lot are into Johnnys , LDH , let alone the giant AKB family tree

That said , there're a few male solo acts that're doing fine & are also having the same issues as the female solo acts too

i wouldnt say they arent into solo artists. theres actually a lot of successful solo artists but they arent big celebrities anymore like Ayu, Kuu or Namie. those idol groups arent that popular with the GP anymore. K-pop is bigger with the GP


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:06 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.