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jbrat2219 17th August 2018 05:30 PM

Physical sales look great! Even if it's not my favorite release, I'm glad it's doing well.

love in music 17th August 2018 07:22 PM

I'm happy for her as well with these sales. Good for her, but I hope these nice sales don't give avex any more ideas about releasing 5 track "albums" in the future.

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Originally Posted by Cahz- (Post 3283594)
You know, people have different tastes. What you consider her worst others may consider it her best or feel very connected with the songs. I consider no more words and Voyage studio version the most boring and dull songs on Earth but many Ayu fans seems to love and worship those two.

True it seems like some people think just because they dislike something everyone else has to too :laugh

I'm wondering which song her Japanese fans like the most on the album. They seem to be liking it overall, but I'm sure there's one track that really sold the album to them. Maybe Šternal?

Diego-kun 17th August 2018 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by love in music (Post 3283711)
They seem to be liking it overall, but I'm sure there's one track that really sold the album to them. Maybe Šternal?

Definitely it's Šternal. It's the song she performed in Music Fair and the one with a higher position in digital charts.

stepYOU1234 17th August 2018 08:51 PM

I have to say this is better than I was expecting (I tend to think realistically rather than hopefully for sales nowadays!) I wonder if Music Fair helped as her vocals were good and Šternal was a lovely performance. If it means future releases get more lives for promotion then yay!

summerain 17th August 2018 09:26 PM

I think what helped the most was the box set. The first day sales are substantially better than the rest of the week because it included mu-mo pre-sales.

Ruan Borges 17th August 2018 10:15 PM

Everyone loves a fancy box set, it's a pity I can't afford.

KarenPang 18th August 2018 11:23 AM

4th day - #4 for the 3rd straight day

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5845528058

rainbow_smile 18th August 2018 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by summerain (Post 3283719)
I think what helped the most was the box set. The first day sales are substantially better than the rest of the week because it included mu-mo pre-sales.

I've heard that mu-mo sales don't count on oricon tho?

toby19900206 18th August 2018 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rainbow_smile (Post 3283796)
I've heard that mu-mo sales don't count on oricon tho?

ミュゥモ(mu-mo) do count on Oricon.

https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/about/

rainbow_smile 18th August 2018 03:17 PM

^ Ohhh thanks, I think I've seen someone say that it doesn't count bc it's owned by avex and always wondered how true that is

Is it true that fanclub shops (for example TeamAyu shop which is technically hosted by mumo) don't count though?

~angel*ayumi~ 18th August 2018 04:11 PM

FC versions don┤t count I think. Regular versions purchased through mu-mo FC link do.

KarenPang 19th August 2018 11:25 AM

5th day - #6

https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2018-08-18/

Uknow! 19th August 2018 12:21 PM

Thanks, Karen. Expecting at least 25k in the first week.

Cahz- 19th August 2018 09:37 PM

Recochoku general: Down to #27 http://recochoku.jp/ranking/album/daily/
Recochoku hi res: Up to #3 http://recochoku.jp/ranking/hires_album/daily/
Mora: Hi res version down to #19 and regular version up to #26 http://mora.jp/ranking?term=lrank24&genre=all

dez0424 20th August 2018 04:55 AM

Oricon and Billboard have different sources when it comes to counting.
They overlap somewhere but the major difference is that Oricon goes with major shops, and Billboard counts some minors. (Billboard's main source is from Sound Scan Japan)
Billboard stopped disclosing numbers some time ago and that let Oricon become the only "mainstream" ranking reference.

Btw, All records shipped to non-Japan addresses do not count towards Oricon.
Oricon also established a rule for event sales a few years back, where only a maximum of 3 copies would be counted towards the ranking in 1 single transaction if sold at event booths (such as AKB events).

About digital sales, that only includes "digital purchases". Streaming is not a purchase.
Since the whole album was streamed before the physical and digital release, it's very understandable that the digital sales didn't do well. I guess they sacrificed the digital sales profit in exchange for the promotion strategy.

kendelle 20th August 2018 09:53 AM

It's so frustrating that Oricon excludes so many types of sales but she's still done a lot better than some of us were expecting (or fearing)

KarenPang 20th August 2018 11:07 AM

6th day - #13

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5848185037

Cahz- 21st August 2018 01:02 AM

TROUBLE up to #1 on Recochoku hi res :luv2 http://recochoku.jp/ranking/hires_album/daily/

Corvina 21st August 2018 08:03 AM

◎Billboard JAPAN Top Albums Sales
(2018年8月13日~8月19日までの集計)
1位『Future Pop』Perfume 80,655枚
2位『海のOh, Yeah!!』サザンオールスターズ 52,857枚
3位『TROUBLE』浜崎あゆみ 24,925枚
4位『スウィートナー ~スペシャル・プライス・エディション』アリアナ・グランデ 10,24 4枚
5位『初恋』宇多田ヒカル 6,031枚

Billboard sales are usually a bit higher than Oricon even though they count a day less.

Sky High 21st August 2018 08:35 AM

Less than 30k, but still it is good position.


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