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Aderianu 5th May 2019 09:52 PM

TROUBLE TOUR 2019-2020 A -misunderstood- II
 

https://i.imgur.com/KV9XRU3.png



[ [ [ [ TOUR SCHEDULE ] ] ] ]
01 (40) - 2019.05.01 - CHIBA: Chiba Prefectural Cultural Hall
02 (41) - 2019.05.02 - CHIBA: Chiba Prefectural Cultural Hall
03 (42) - 2019.05.10 - KYOTO: ROHM Theatre Kyoto Main Hall
04 (43) - 2019.05.11 - AICHI: Aichi Art Center
05 (44) - 2019.05.17 - SHIZUOKA: Shizuoka City Cultural Hall Large Hall
06 (45) - 2019.05.25 - OSAKA: Festival Hall
07 (46) - 2019.05.26 - OSAKA: Festival Hall
08 (47) - 2019.06.08 - HYOGO: Kobe International Conference Center Kokusai Hall
09 (48) - 2019.06.09 - HYOGO: Kobe International Conference Center Kokusai Hall
10 (49) - 2019.06.13 - YAMAGUCHI: Shunan City Cultural Hall
11 (50) - 2019.06.14 - HIROSHIMA: Hiroshima Culture Academy HBG Hall
12 (51) - 2019.06.21 - NAGANO: Matsumoto Art Museum
13 (52) - 2019.06.28 - TOKYO: Hitomi Memorial Hall
14 (53) - 2019.06.30 - KANAGAWA: Caltz Kawasaki
15 (54) - 2019.07.04 - EHIME: Matsuyama City Hall
16 (55) - 2019.07.13 - CHIBA: Ichikawa City Culture Hall
17 (56) - 2019.07.14 - CHIBA: Ichikawa City Culture Hall
18 (57) - 2019.07.19 - SHIZUOKA: Act City Hamamatsu University Hall
19 (58) - 2019.07.30 - KANAGAWA: Sagami Women's University Green Hall
20 (59) - 2019.08.08 - OITA: Iichiko Gran Siata
21 (60) - 2019.08.09 - MIYAZAKI: Miyazaki Citizen's Culture Hall
22 (61) - 2019.08.16 - MIYAGI: Sendai Sun Plaza Hall
23 (62) - 2019.08.17 - IWATE: Oshu City Culture Center Z Hall
24 (63) - 2019.08.18 - YAMAGATA: Shelter Nanyang Hall
25 (64) - 2020.02.20 - SAITAMA: Misato City Cultural Hall
26 (65) - 2020.02.21 - SAITAMA: Misato City Cultural Hall
27 (66) - 2020.02.29 - AICHI: Nagoya International Conference Center Century Hall
28 (67) - 2020.03.01 - AICHI: Nagoya International Conference Center Century Hall
29 (68) - 2020.03.19 - FUKUSHIMA: Koriyama City Cultural Center
30 (69) - 2020.03.21 - AOMORI: Link Station Hall Aomori
31 (70) - 2020.03.30 - OKAYAMA: Kurashiki City Hall
32 (71) - 2020.03.31 - HIROSHIMA: Hiroshima Culture Academy HBG Hall
33 (72) - 2020.04.04 - OSAKA: Festival Hall
34 (73) - 2020.04.05 - OSAKA: Festival Hall
35 (74) - 2020.04.11 - KYOTO: ROHM Theatre Kyoto
36 (75) - 2020.04.12 - KYOTO: ROHM Theatre Kyoto
37 (76) - 2020.04.18 - ISHIKAWA: Kanazawa Opera Theater
38 (77) - 2020.04.19 - TOYAMA: Toyama Aubade Hall
39 (78) - 2020.05.02 - GUNMA: Beishia Culture Hall
40 (79) - 2020.05.03 - GUNMA: Beishia Culture Hall
41 (80) - 2020.05.09 - YAMANASHI: YCC Prefectural Culture Hall
42 (81) - 2020.05.10 - YAMANASHI: YCC Prefectural Culture Hall
43 (82) - 2020.05.13 - HYOGO: Kobe International Conference Center Kokusai Hall
44 (83) - 2020.05.14 - HYOGO: Kobe International Conference Center Kokusai Hall
45 (84) - 2020.06.02 - Tokyo: Tokyo International Forum Hall A
46 (85) - 2020.06.03 - Tokyo: Tokyo International Forum Hall A
47 (86) - 2020.06.12 - Mie: Yokkaichi City Cultural Hall 1st Hall
48 (87) - 2020.06.13 - Gifu: Nagaragawa Convention Center Main Hall
49 (88) - 2020.06.20 - Niigata: Niigata Civic Hall
50 (89) - 2020.06.27 - Wakayama: Wakayama Prefectural Cultural Hall, Large Hall
51 (90) - 2020.06.28 - Shiga: Shiga Lake Biwa Hall Large Hall
52 (91) - 2020.07.04 - Yamagata: Shin Yamagata Prefectural Hall
53 (92) - 2020.07.05 - Miyagi: Tokyo Electron Hall Miyagi
54 (93) - 2020.07.18 - Tokushima: Naruto City Cultural Hall
55 (94) - 2020.07.19 - Kagawa: Sunport Hall Takamatsu
56 (95) - 2020.07.23 - Shizuoka: Shizuoka City Cultural Hall
57 (96) - 2020.07.26 - Fukuoka: Kurume City Plaza The Grand Hall
58 (97) - 2020.07.27 - Fukuoka: Kurume City Plaza The Grand Hall
59 (98) - 2020.08.07 - Kagoshima: Kagoshima Civic Culture Hall Daiichi
60 (99) - 2020.08.08 - Kumamoto: Kumamoto Castle Hall
61 (100) - 2020.08.15 - Okinawa: Okinawa Convention Center Theater
62 (101) - 2020.08.16 - Okinawa: Okinawa Convention Center Theater



[ [ [ [ SETLIST ] ] ] ]
Spoiler:
2019.05.01-02 - CHIBA
01. In the Corner
02. W
-----SHOW TIME------
03. Don't look back
04. INSPIRE
05. STEP you
-----SHOW TIME------
06. Sparkle ~ Movin' on without you ~ rollin' ~ Sparkle
07. Wake me up
08. Rule
------2019 POA^3 Video-----------
09. HEAVEN
10. Ladies Night
11. Bold & Delicious
12. Born to be
------Encore-------
13. The way I am
14. SURREAL ~ evolution
15. Thank U

2019.05.10 - KYOTO
2019.05.11 - AICHI

Sorrows added after HEAVEN
The way I am - gone
Boys & Girls added between S~e and Thank U

2019.05.17 - SHIZUOKA
Sorrows → NEVER EVER

2019.05.25 - OSAKA to
2019.06.09 - HYOGO

You & Me added to medley instead of last piece of Sparkle
NEVER EVER → beloved

2019.06.13 - YAMAGUCHI
STEP you is gone
progress and BLUE BIRD added between Bold & Delicious and Born to be

2019.06.28 - TOKYO
beloved → how beautiful you are

2019.06.30 - KANAGAWA
ENCORE:
1. evolution
2. Sunrise ~Love is All~
3. Boys & Girls
4. Thank U

2019.07.04 - EHIME
05. Sparkle ~ Summer Love ~ Movin' on without you ~ rollin' ~ You & Me

2019.08.08-09 - OITA/MIYAZAKI
01. In the Corner
02. W
-----SHOW TIME------
03. Don't look back
04. INSPIRE
-----SHOW TIME------
05. Sparkle ~ Summer Love ~ rollin' ~ Sparkle
06. Wake me up
07. Rule
------2019 POA^3 Video-----------
08. HANABI
09.Ladies Night
10.Bold & Delicious
11.progress
12.BLUE BIRD
13.July 1st
------Encore-------
14. evolution
15. Sunrise ~LOVE is ALL~
16. Boys & Girls
17.Thank U

2019.08.17 - IWATE
~ Sparkle → ~ You & Me
A song is born added after July 1st
Sunrise gone
TODAY added between Boys & Girls and Thank U



[ [ [ [ PHOTOS ] ] ] ]



[ [ [ [ VIDEO ] ] ] ]
Spoiler:
Quote:

Originally Posted by junshen (Post 3300192)



First thread: http://ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124453
Tour goods: http://ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124502

surrealA 5th May 2019 10:22 PM

Thank you for the update :)

Andrenekoi 5th May 2019 11:39 PM

Can we still consider this as Ayu in anniversary mode, like Po^3 was?

attractive nausea 5th May 2019 11:59 PM

^ In my opinion, yes.

Andrenekoi 6th May 2019 03:10 AM

If this is the case (I agree with you):

Every song performed during the 20th anni celebration


Spoiler:
01. A Song for ××
02. Depend on you
03. poker face
04. YOU

05. appears
06. Boys & Girls
07. Fly high
08. kanariya
09. TO BE
10. Trauma
11. Who...

12. AUDIENCE
13. ever free
14. SEASONS
15. SURREAL
16. Duty

17. A Song is born
18. Dearest
19. evolution
20. I am...
21. M
22. NEVER EVER
23. UNITE!

24. +
25. everywhere nowhere
26. Free & Easy
27. HANABI
28. independent
29. July 1st
30. Voyage
31. WE WISH

32. ANGEL'S SONG
33. Because of you
34. forgiveness
35. Greatful days
36. Memorial address
37. No way to say
38. ourselves

39. GAME
40. HONEY
41. Humming 7/4
42. INSPIRE
43. Moments
44. my name's WOMEN
45. walking proud

46. alterna
47. Bold & Delicious
48. fairyland
49. STEP you
50. Pride
51. Ladies Night
52. HEAVEN
53. In the Corner

54. 1 LOVE
55. Beautiful Fighters
56. BLUE BIRD
57. Born To Be...
58. kiss o' kill
59. Startin'

60. Part of Me

61. talkin' 2 myself
62. Together When...
63. MY ALL

64. Mirrorcle World

65. EnergizE
66. Curtain call
67. Days
68. NEXT LEVEL
69. Sparkle
70. rollin'
71. Rule

72. Lady Dynamite
73. Microphone
74. Sunrise ~ LOVE is ALL~
75. Don't Look Back

76. Last angel
77. Love Song
78. SEVEN DAYS WAR
79. Virgin Road
80. Thank U

81. Dream ON (Special Guest: Urata Naoya)

82. ANother song (Special Guest: Urata Naoya)
83. progress
84. beloved
85. BRILLANTE

86. how beautifu you are
87. Shake It ♥
88. NaNaNa

89. You & Me

90. Ivy
91. SAKURA
92. Wake me up

93. Feel the love
94. Lelio
95. Merry-go-round
96. XOXO
97. NOW & 4EVA

98. Last minute
99. Movin' on without you
100. The Show Must Go On
101. Walk
102. WARNING

103. FLOWER
104. Mad World
105. Many Classic Moments
106. Summer Love
107. Survivor
108. TODAY

109. æternal
110. The way I am
111. W
112. We are the QUEENS
113. WORDS

(114. Diary by miccie)


A Song for ××: 4/15
LOVEppears: 7/15
Duty: 5/11
I AM...: 7/14
RAINBOW: 8/13
Memorial Address: 7/8
MY STORY: 7/14
(miss)understood: 8/14
Secret: 7/11
GUILTY: 3/10
NEXT LEVEL: 7/10
Rock'n'Roll Circus: 4/12
Love Songs: 5/12
Five: 4/5
Party Queen: 3/11
Love again: 4/13
Colours 5/10
A One: 5/12
Sixxxxxx: 0/6
M(a)de in Japan: 6/9
Trouble: 5/5

kotora 6th May 2019 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3299761)
If this is the case (I agree with you):

Every song performed during the 20th anni celebration


Spoiler:
01. A Song for ××
02. Depend on you
03. poker face
04. YOU

05. appears
06. Boys & Girls
07. Fly high
08. kanariya
09. TO BE
10. Trauma
11. Who...

12. AUDIENCE
13. ever free
14. SEASONS
15. SURREAL
16. Duty

17. A Song is born
18. Dearest
19. evolution
20. I am...
21. M
22. NEVER EVER
23. UNITE!

24. +
25. everywhere nowhere
26. Free & Easy
27. HANABI
28. independent
29. July 1st
30. Voyage
31. WE WISH

32. ANGEL'S SONG
33. Because of you
34. forgiveness
35. Greatful days
36. Memorial address
37. No way to say
38. ourselves

39. GAME
40. HONEY
41. Humming 7/4
42. INSPIRE
43. Moments
44. my name's WOMEN
45. walking proud

46. alterna
47. Bold & Delicious
48. fairyland
49. STEP you
50. Pride
51. Ladies Night
52. HEAVEN
53. In the Corner

54. 1 LOVE
55. Beautiful Fighters
56. BLUE BIRD
57. Born To Be...
58. kiss o' kill
59. Startin'

60. Part of Me

61. talkin' 2 myself
62. Together When...
63. MY ALL

64. Mirrorcle World

65. EnergizE
66. Curtain call
67. Days
68. NEXT LEVEL
69. Sparkle
70. rollin'
71. Rule

72. Lady Dynamite
73. Microphone
74. Sunrise ~ LOVE is ALL~
75. Don't Look Back

76. Last angel
77. Love Song
78. SEVEN DAYS WAR
79. Virgin Road
80. Thank U

81. Dream ON (Special Guest: Urata Naoya)

82. ANother song (Special Guest: Urata Naoya)
83. progress
84. beloved
85. BRILLANTE

86. how beautifu you are
87. Shake It ♥
88. NaNaNa

89. You & Me

90. Ivy
91. SAKURA
92. Wake me up

93. Feel the love
94. Lelio
95. Merry-go-round
96. XOXO
97. NOW & 4EVA

98. Last minute
99. Movin' on without you
100. The Show Must Go On
101. Walk
102. WARNING

103. FLOWER
104. Mad World
105. Many Classic Moments
106. Summer Love
107. Survivor
108. TODAY

109. æternal
110. The way I am
111. W
112. We are the QUEENS
113. WORDS

(114. Diary by miccie)


A Song for ××: 4/15
LOVEppears: 7/15
Duty: 5/11
I AM...: 7/14
RAINBOW: 8/13
Memorial Address: 7/8
MY STORY: 7/14
(miss)understood: 8/14
Secret: 7/11
GUILTY: 3/10
NEXT LEVEL: 7/10
Rock'n'Roll Circus: 4/12
Love Songs: 5/12
Five: 4/5
Party Queen: 3/11
Love again: 4/13
Colours 5/10
A One: 5/12
Sixxxxxx: 0/6
M(a)de in Japan: 6/9
Trouble: 5/5

Sixxxxxx: 0/6 <-- Surprise *shook*

Andrenekoi 6th May 2019 12:31 PM

^I would like to have at least a Step by Step live xD

kotora 6th May 2019 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3299781)
^I would like to have at least a Step by Step live xD

I would love to see Sorrow again. That song is <3

pedronekoi 7th May 2019 04:27 AM

I would love to see the whole sixxxx being performed tbh. I think is a really great EP. I want a "Shape of Love" live!! (Did she ever performed this song?)

oaristos 7th May 2019 06:23 AM

^ Shape of Love is a masterpiece and deserves more love. :weep I actually love every song on sixxxxxx.

Katsuyuki012 7th May 2019 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pedronekoi (Post 3299809)
I would love to see the whole sixxxx being performed tbh. I think is a really great EP. I want a "Shape of Love" live!! (Did she ever performed this song?)

Think she performed it at a TA tour (not sure which one).
I also love sixxxxxx and would love for her to sing some of the songs again. :heart

metropass 7th May 2019 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katsuyuki012 (Post 3299816)
Think she performed it at a TA tour (not sure which one).
I also love sixxxxxx and would love for her to sing some of the songs again. :heart

No she hasn't sung it before. Besides Shape of love I also do want a live version of Sky high. I think this song is really suitable to be the ending for her concert.

Party_King 7th May 2019 06:30 PM

^ Hasn‘t she sang Sky high along with Summer diary and winter diary during MIT CDL?

Earth_maiden 7th May 2019 07:07 PM

^Sadly no, I think she performed Step by step at one of the TA lives?

summerain 7th May 2019 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earth_maiden (Post 3299854)
^Sadly no, I think she performed Step by step at one of the TA lives?

She performed that song at AT15 encore.

kotora 7th May 2019 08:01 PM

It's ok, we can see the pattern.

TROUBLE TOUR ~Secret~
TROUBLE TOUR ~GUILTY~
TROUBLE TOUR ~NEXT LEVEL~
TROUBLE TOUR ~Circus~
TROUBLE TOUR ~Love Songs again~
TROUBLE TOUR ~Five Party Queens~
Colourful Trouble Tour
A One of Trouble Tour ~Sixxxxxx~

We will have her performing songs from sixxxxxx again.

mi|kshake 7th May 2019 09:14 PM

I'd love a performance of Sayonara!

Sandy 7th May 2019 09:30 PM

Shape of love really deserves more love, alongside What is forever love <3

I'm still confused, does this tour have anything to do with (miss)understood the album or not? Because at first, I thought no but the setlist kind of says yes... so did she not spell the tour correctly after the album title because of a specific reason? And if this is a TROUBLE tour, why only 2 songs from the album itself?

Chris85 7th May 2019 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy (Post 3299858)
I'm still confused, does this tour have anything to do with (miss)understood the album or not? Because at first, I thought no but the setlist kind of says yes... so did she not spell the tour correctly after the album title because of a specific reason? And if this is a TROUBLE tour, why only 2 songs from the album itself?

Asking important questions. I'd like to know that too.

AJFmzk 7th May 2019 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mi|kshake (Post 3299857)
I'd love a performance of Sayonara!

She performed it with spexial at a-nation 2015.08.22. The video is probably somewhere on AHS. If not, feel free to PM me.

Evan Odinson 8th May 2019 02:42 AM

YAS at the love for Shape of love, one of my favorite songs and part of my infamous holy trinity, I love y'all and really REALLY hope she sings it someday.

Ruan Borges 8th May 2019 08:42 PM

Shape of Love is one of my faves too, it would be gold in an acoustic section!

ExodusUK 9th May 2019 05:26 PM

The setlist would slay if she swapped W for Will.

metropass 9th May 2019 05:41 PM

Mentioning Kuu's new tour of recycling old concepts to justify ayu's recycling is meaningless. At least Kuu this time is telling us she is really going to recycle old stuffs. However starting from Jtb Tour every time ayu was saying something like “It must be different from the past tour” “I'm keep moving forward for this new show” “A new stage would be built from zero”, but after attending the show you found she is still recycling old materials.

Aderianu 9th May 2019 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metropass (Post 3299999)
However starting from Jtb Tour every time ayu was saying something like “It must be different from the past tour” “I'm keep moving forward for this new show” “A new stage would be built from zero”, but after attending the show you found she is still recycling old materials.

When did she tell this?

metropass 9th May 2019 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 3300000)
When did she tell this?

You can find those wordings out from these pages: https://avex.jp/ayu/live/
Those I quoted are from Jtb Tour, POM 2018 and POWER of A^3.

minkAYuko 10th May 2019 03:38 AM

Did I hear Ayu vs Kumi Drama?... I'm all here for it! :roflmao

Quote:

Originally Posted by metropass (Post 3299999)
Mentioning Kuu's new tour of recycling old concepts to justify ayu's recycling is meaningless. At least Kuu this time is telling us she is really going to recycle old stuffs. However starting from Jtb Tour every time ayu was saying something like “It must be different from the past tour” “I'm keep moving forward for this new show” “A new stage would be built from zero”, but after attending the show you found she is still recycling old materials.

This!

And.. someone in kumi's thread said the Ku's concert idea was very original (and it is tho) and just as a joke, I thought that I should reply: Well... if you don't count ayu's tours where she keeps recycling E V E R Y T H I N G since I don't know what year :roflmao But there are very sensitive fans around here... :D

EndOfTheWorld 10th May 2019 05:43 AM

Spoiler:
https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram...ninstagram.com
🔥🔥🔥京都🔥🔥🔥


#そう無事に辿り着きました #名古屋駅にも #京都駅にも #笑顔がたくさん待っていてくれて幸せな気持ちになりました #そんなこんな全部今日のステージでお返し出来るよう #OPから飛ばします #千葉から更に進化したトラブルを楽しんで下さいませ

#TROUBLEツアー2019
#misunderstood

Photo by @masayukikamo

kotora 10th May 2019 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minkAYuko (Post 3300005)
Did I hear Ayu vs Kumi Drama?... I'm all here for it! :roflmao

OMG DRAMA ALERT.

I am ready for the tea.

se7entheaven 10th May 2019 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EndOfTheWorld (Post 3300016)
Spoiler:
https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram...ninstagram.com
🔥🔥🔥京都🔥🔥🔥


#そう無事に辿り着きました #名古屋駅にも #京都駅にも #笑顔がたくさん待っていてくれて幸せな気持ちになりました #そんなこんな全部今日のステージでお返し出来るよう #OPから飛ばします #千葉から更に進化したトラブルを楽しんで下さいませ

#TROUBLEツアー2019
#misunderstood

Photo by @masayukikamo

She should’ve worn this to MET gala. Lol
But the short tie is redundant

attractive nausea 10th May 2019 11:35 AM

That new outfit is really cool and refreshing!

njanjayrp 10th May 2019 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by attractive nausea (Post 3300026)
That new outfit is really cool and refreshing!

I love it!

pedronekoi 10th May 2019 01:32 PM

Love this!! Interesting and refreshing outfit <3

kaled kalil 10th May 2019 02:01 PM

Not a huge fan of those shoulders, it makes her head look so tiny, but the rest is awesome. Love that she added the Gucci belt.

Chris85 10th May 2019 02:48 PM

Why is nobody discussing new setlist? :-)
Today's changes:
Sorrows after HEAVEN
Encore:
SURREAL
evolution
Boys& Girls
Thank u

The way I am was cut.
poker face was replaced by voyage

Source: Mixi.

So...is this a trouble that we have only one song from Trouble?

Teppei-chan 10th May 2019 03:11 PM

Didn't someone here wished she would sing Sorrows again? So your wish has been granted :D
Sad to see that she did cut The way I am, I like this song and it's one of my favourites on Trouble. Hoping that she might add it again but I kinda doubt it

junshen 10th May 2019 03:34 PM

Two outfits have been replaced. Encore wearing Betty shirt for a while and threw
To lucky fans for free

attractive nausea 10th May 2019 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris85 (Post 3300037)
Why is nobody discussing new setlist? :-)
Today's changes:
Sorrows after HEAVEN
Encore:
SURREAL
evolution
Boys& Girls
Thank u

The way I am was cut.
poker face was replaced by voyage

Source: Mixi.

So...is this a trouble that we have only one song from Trouble?

Where exactly did you find the setlist? I just went on the website and as someone who cant read japanese i have no idea where to go.
So she replaced the poker face video with a real performance of Voyage?

melissalove 10th May 2019 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris85 (Post 3300037)
Why is nobody discussing new setlist? :-)
Today's changes:
Sorrows after HEAVEN
Encore:
SURREAL
evolution
Boys& Girls
Thank u

The way I am was cut.
poker face was replaced by voyage

Source: Mixi.

So...is this a trouble that we have only one song from Trouble?

These changes are kind of interesting though. Specifically the encore, surreal, evolution, boys and girls and then thank you. Feels like an actual thank you for some reason. Not that ayu will retire but thank you for holding on thus far. This is me trying to analyze this misunderstood tea. Periodt:P

njanjayrp 10th May 2019 06:05 PM

It would be interesting to see how the show will change until she finally settles for something and then change it again for the CDL.

kotora 10th May 2019 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris85 (Post 3300037)
Why is nobody discussing new setlist? :-)
Today's changes:
Sorrows after HEAVEN
Encore:
SURREAL
evolution
Boys& Girls
Thank u

The way I am was cut.
poker face was replaced by voyage

Source: Mixi.

So...is this a trouble that we have only one song from Trouble?

OMG OMG OMG SORROWS

I feel like she is secretly watching our conversation here.
We talked about B&G and talked about songs from sixxxxxxxxxxx
and then the list is changed...

Not happening the first time tho.

Chibi-Chan 10th May 2019 10:09 PM

Love the outfit!!!

Chris85 10th May 2019 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by attractive nausea (Post 3300048)
Where exactly did you find the setlist? I just went on the website and as someone who cant read japanese i have no idea where to go.
So she replaced the poker face video with a real performance of Voyage?

https://mixi.jp/view_bbs.pl?comm_id=1829&id=89356899
The person who wrote the setlist didn't clarify, but I think Voyage was just a video.

EndOfTheWorld 10th May 2019 10:35 PM

I like the outfit too but I think the shoulders are too puffy. It actually looks like something Seiko Matsuda may have worn in the 80s.:think

Chibi-Chan 10th May 2019 11:32 PM

^that's why I love it :laugh

FoxyPinkGirl 11th May 2019 02:58 AM

I’m getting a sailor vibe from the outfit. Absolutely love it! So refreshing to see her in a costume so amazing like that. It’s reminiscent of her past epic tours and shows. I hope she has more costumes as fabulous as that

pedronekoi 11th May 2019 03:01 AM

^ Yes! It got me Concert Tour 2000 vibes lol

I think from now on we will see a lot of little changes in the tour. Probably in the two first dates she and the team didn't had enough time to prepare new stuff so it was very A^3-like. Can't wait to see the new outfits!

holy_arrow 11th May 2019 03:50 AM

I believe that in order to get the budget for the changes in the new tours, she will reuse the outfit and the setlist from POA3. After 1-2 months, the setlist and outfits will be changed to be more unique.

Corvina 11th May 2019 08:05 AM

I'd have loved her to actually perform poker face.

EndOfTheWorld 11th May 2019 08:21 AM

Spoiler:
https://scontent-yyz1-1.cdninstagram...ninstagram.com
https://scontent-yyz1-1.cdninstagram...ninstagram.com


いざ名古屋🍤🍤🍤

名古屋は凄いです。いつ来ても熱い暑い騒がしい笑笑笑笑 大好きです😘
今日はどんな名古屋かなぁー♡


#ベティちゃんコラボT
#私が着てるのはMサイズだよん

#TROUBLEツアー2019
#misunderstood

Photo by @masayukikamo

Chris85 11th May 2019 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corvina (Post 3300073)
I'd have loved her to actually perform poker face.

After she was really struggling with it during CDL a couple of years ago, I'd say she'd better avoid it or lip sync like in A Best Live.

Corvina 11th May 2019 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris85 (Post 3300077)
After she was really struggling with it during CDL a couple of years ago, I'd say she'd better avoid it or lip sync like in A Best Live.

Or change the key and use backing track. Could work.
Just not using her cute voice, but actually singing in a pleasent key for her now.

metropass 11th May 2019 12:30 PM

I'd like to see her do a full version of poker face. Seems that she never has sung the whole song except in Secret Live 1999?

hud 11th May 2019 03:22 PM

yeah she sings it without the cute voice in TA LIVE TOUR 2003 and A MUSEUM but it's only short versions. I'd love to see her performing a full version nowadays too.

Chris85 12th May 2019 01:33 AM

The setlist was the same yesterday. It was dancer Hikaru's birthday and the audience was asked in advance to be prepared to sing "happy birthday to you", then the photo was taken. It was confirmed that Voyage is just a video and everyone is singing along.

mi|kshake 12th May 2019 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExodusUK (Post 3299998)
The setlist would slay if she swapped W for Will.


OMG I would love for her to perform Will again.

Chris85 12th May 2019 09:01 AM

Will is one of my all-time favourites.

Aderianu 12th May 2019 06:21 PM

http://i.imgur.com/BjhJuY4l.jpg

Chris85 12th May 2019 09:51 PM

The room looks huge.

kotora 13th May 2019 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 3300142)

Need to have someone to cover the laundry machine, and Timmy has too much white makeup on... on dear.. he looks like dead meat.

aliceshields 13th May 2019 02:15 PM

^ I thought of “It” (the movie) when I saw him in the pic 🙈

kotora 13th May 2019 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aliceshields (Post 3300184)
^ I thought of “It” (the movie) when I saw him in the pic 🙈

https://media.tenor.com/images/80c8f...e00b/tenor.gif

junshen 13th May 2019 05:20 PM

Sorrows

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_ZY...Wl6vDB9H8/view

Aderianu 13th May 2019 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by junshen (Post 3300192)

OMG!!! Thanks a lot for this
from what date this recording is?

DevilsClap 13th May 2019 05:44 PM

God, I love Sorrows

attractive nausea 13th May 2019 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by junshen (Post 3300192)

Thanks a lot! The outfit reminds me of AT2016 during BRILLANTE, Mad World and Endless Sorrow.

njanjayrp 13th May 2019 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by junshen (Post 3300192)

Thanks!

AJFmzk 13th May 2019 10:53 PM

Thanks! Love Sorrows. She looks gorgeous in the video.

Chris85 13th May 2019 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by junshen (Post 3300192)

Thank you! Wow, the audio quality of your phone's recording is really good.

junshen 14th May 2019 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris85 (Post 3300201)
Thank you! Wow, the audio quality of your phone's recording is really good.

ayu voice is good, despite is the a day after kyoto.

axmish87 14th May 2019 05:56 AM

Thanks @ junshen. She was good.

junshen 14th May 2019 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 3300193)
OMG!!! Thanks a lot for this
from what date this recording is?

Its Nagoya show 5.11
I got other songs too, but felt bad to record it secretly... just for you guy to hear her sound is quite good these days.

maxikot 14th May 2019 11:38 AM

Thanks for sharing and she sounds good! Glad you seem to have enjoyed the show :)

hidekirby 14th May 2019 01:00 PM

Thank you very much for the snippet! : D
However I think her voice is still definitely far from being good...

Cahz- 14th May 2019 01:53 PM

I love Sorrows, and I'm really glad she's performing it again. The Limited TA Live performance of this song is one of my all time favorites.

Sky High 14th May 2019 09:38 PM

^ Sorrows TA tour version is amazing.

I dream that she preforms "kanariya" in lower register, acapella version.

AYUCREA 15th May 2019 03:29 PM

Sorrows sounds good. new outfit?

Deep snow 15th May 2019 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by junshen (Post 3300192)

thank you for this! excellent audio quality and you had a perfect view of her :luv2

please please gods I just want her to maintain this voice quality throughout the tour :yes

LemonEcstasy 15th May 2019 06:09 PM

Is anyone going to the one in Hiroshima? I always go alone and would love a change.

kotora 15th May 2019 07:09 PM

The first half of Sorrows was good, but the second half of Sorrows (after 0:55)... was... awful...

melissalove 15th May 2019 10:06 PM

I don’t think ayu can hear herself when she hits higher notes. So she screams without realizing. :/

aliceshields 16th May 2019 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kotora (Post 3300299)
The first half of Sorrows was good, but the second half of Sorrows (after 0:55)... was... awful...

+1 🥺

freedreamer 16th May 2019 06:56 AM

i didnt think it was THAT bad. She didnt hit the last note of each chorus line as usual because she tends to just shout that word out out of dramatism. but she was on pitch for the most part

njanjayrp 16th May 2019 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freedreamer (Post 3300322)
i didnt think it was THAT bad. She didnt hit the last note of each chorus line as usual because she tends to just shout that word out out of dramatism. but she was on pitch for the most part

It's the way ayu sings and while its imperfect I enjoy it.

junshen 16th May 2019 11:18 AM

Sorry to post here, the thread is close for CDL 2018-2019
WOWOW version camera angle will board cast this week .
A preview is also available

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lDn...zNh7JZQW1/view

maxikot 16th May 2019 11:32 AM

^ Thanks! It looks really good and shows what slight angle changes (love the view of the whole stage with W car in the middle) and proper editing can do. Looking forward to seeing the whole thing :)

Chris85 16th May 2019 12:52 PM

Right, edited Ayu is the only way to listen to these days.

maxikot 16th May 2019 01:01 PM

She sounded okay to me for most of the concert. By proper editing I mean obviously fix her here and there but also simply mix audio in the right way etc.

primavera♥ 16th May 2019 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melissalove (Post 3300303)
I don’t think ayu can hear herself when she hits higher notes. So she screams without realizing. :/

I think it is less about her hearing and more the health of her voice.

It sounds damaged and has for a while. And it just gets more damaged as she goes. It would explain her rough tone these days even on the Trouble album recordings.

I think sometimes people get into "yelling" instead of appropriate technique when they try to sing outside of their comfortable range or are struggling to push notes within their range out due to a strained voice. Unfortunately the yelling just worsens the problem.

Really she would maybe need to take some time to train her voice to be comfortable in different ranges as well as handle the amount she sings but it would be even harder now since it sounds so far gone sometimes.

I'm not a professional vocalist, so I dont spend as much time looking into these things (so dont take this post too seriously). But I've always been curious to hear what one thinks regarding ayu's issues.

It seemed around 2014 or 2015 (or whenever cirque de minuit was) she was using more appropriate breathing and singing technique. Some people said she sounded less emotional, but I think she was just trying to exercise control and reduce strain. Far from perfect still even then.

I'm sure the hearing has an impact but I think there is much more going on. And sometimes it's sad to hear like in this Sorrows recording

AJFmzk 16th May 2019 11:15 PM

^ As someone who is currently studying this and has gone through similar problems (thankfully the more severe ear problems were temporary for me, but I still have some on-going ear problems) I'm gonna put out some theory/technical stuff based on my experience, but I'm not a professional or expert, just studying...

Songs are a finite number of pitches placed in a pattern (in this case the melody line). For example, in Western music you have a maximum of 11 notes or 12 if you count the octave note (yes, the octave notes are different frequencies, but they are all on the same frequency line so technically it's the same thing, just a certain multiple higher or lower) and songs are a matter of memorizing and ingraining the pattern. As long as she can hear and match pitches (and she definitely can), she should, in theory, be able to sing the songs just fine, as long as she has memorized the song properly, because pitches are relative to a single reference pitch. If the band is playing on key with no mistakes, that's all the reference one should need. That's in theory. If she starts on the correct note or can get back to a correct note, all the other notes that follow are in the order dictated by the pattern, but related back to that single reference point. This assumes that she ingrained the songs properly. If she didn't learn the songs properly at the beginning, it could also be that years of bad ingraining makes it hard for her to unlearn the wrong or unsure pitches in her muscle memory (and use the reference instead of relying on habit/muscle memory or guessing), which is compounded by her compromised hearing, because even if she goes off, if she can listen and match a correct note, she can use that as the reference. Then we have to add in the mechanics of her voice, which sounds very overworked. This is also a big part of the problem. If the machine is not functioning/maintained correctly, it can falter whether you have ear/pitch problems or not.

You are absolutely correct that poor technique makes the problems worse, better technique will help. It's not so easy to break habits though, and nerves tend to make people rely on old habits. She sounded good during Cirque de Minuit, I believe she was working with a vocal teacher at that time. It made a huge difference. I think she has been attempting to fix her technique or at least not scream as much. She's definitely improved since 2017/early 2018 and I think she's making some effort, but the best thing probably is to get a vocal coach like in 2014/2015. Another thing that could factor in is distractions. If she has distracting thoughts or something happens to pull her out of her "zone", it can disrupt her flow and cause her to lose her place in the pattern or to lose her reference point temporarily. If she's having ear/balance problems, not only can it mess up hearing, but ears popping and balance issues that come from it is a major distraction. But Ayu could also have other problems we are not aware of that could be having an impact on her singing as well.

Anyway, this is just based on the method I've been studying recently and I am certainly not an authority or expert of the subject, feel free to correct me if I've made a mistake in the technical details so I can learn. But the technique for memorization, breathing support and vocalization combined with her physical "instrument" are the most important parts of a good vocal performance.

junshen 17th May 2019 02:32 PM

Sorrows→NEVER EVER

Deep snow 17th May 2019 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by junshen (Post 3300398)
Sorrows→NEVER EVER

thanks for the update junshen, but: ah shit.

holy_arrow 17th May 2019 04:58 PM

It seems that song would be the repeatitive song in the final day.

metropass 18th May 2019 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holy_arrow (Post 3300413)
It seems that song would be the repeatitive song in the final day.

99% sure In The Corner and Don't look back will be ditched on the filming date.

Aderianu 18th May 2019 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metropass (Post 3300431)
99% sure In The Corner and Don't look back will be ditched on the filming date.

not sure about In The Corner, since it's opening, but Don't look back can go easily

junshen 18th May 2019 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 3300435)
not sure about In The Corner, since it's opening, but Don't look back can go easily

I think don’t look back will survive. Since the 5 big mirrors performance seems
Made for the performance.

Minerva 18th May 2019 12:45 PM

Yesasia has listed a few goods.
I'm debating if I should order from them, for "just the beggining" tour I waited a month for them to tell me that they no longer had the product in stock. And yet they still kept the listing up for a while.

_dandy_ 18th May 2019 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJFmzk (Post 3300359)
^ As someone who is currently studying this and has gone through similar problems (thankfully the more severe ear problems were temporary for me, but I still have some on-going ear problems) I'm gonna put out some theory/technical stuff based on my experience, but I'm not a professional or expert, just studying...

[Much deleted]

Thanks for sharing that - I thought that was interesting.

What you've described however - and that's what *I'm* getting from it, and I could be wrong - is that this sounds like the recipe you need if you wanted to end up with singers who sound *exactly* the same live as they do on their album, and that's *boring*. Celine Dion, for one, is guilty of that, to an extreme.

I call her a singing robot--she hits all the right notes at all the right times, but it gets perhaps so rigid there's no room left for any of the subtleties you'd expect to come from emotions that might swell up when someone's singing. Half the fun in going to concerts, to me, is seeing how an artist might make some changes here and there, have a different take on a song, or shed a tear perhaps because the lyrics for a song are so personal to them. A performance that's "too polished" to me comes across as void of emotion, and the artist is just going through the motions rather than pouring his or her heart into it.

Of course you have the other end of the spectrum as well. Ayu's technique is so off these days I feel that she needs to "re-learn" how to sing, she needs to re-learn those basic techniques, especially in conjunction with the conditions that she now has to deal with. As much as I love her and want her to continue to have a great career, I'm one of those who agrees she needs to take a break.

_dandy_ 18th May 2019 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxikot (Post 3300343)
^ Thanks! It looks really good and shows what slight angle changes (love the view of the whole stage with W car in the middle) and proper editing can do. Looking forward to seeing the whole thing :)

As someone abroad who can't see those live broadcasts and have to rely on those who record and then post them...it got me thinking.

It's kinda sad that Ayu's label is not putting out those concerts for purchase on disc anymore--I currently own them all and would be more than happy to keep buying them. After I've finally caught up a few years ago with everything she had put out...I'm finding I still have this itch I have to scratch. In other words, Avex, please take my money.

If someone's willing to put up the money to edit these recordings for a one-time rebroadcast - why not put up the money to produce the discs? I can't honestly claim to know how they make the money back when they edit a concert for rebroadcasting back once. Is it even worth it? From my perspective this is where the costly hard work is - so that's already done. Is there really so little return for a physical package that it's not worth taking the final step and putting it on disc, producing a box, marketing and distributing it?

Maybe Avex wants quality rather than quantity and can no longer justify making the elaborate releases they used to have, or promote them as much. Surely they can still put *something* out at a lower cost. Just thinking out loud.

Aderianu 18th May 2019 06:19 PM

https://i.imgur.com/EZoWurb.jpg?1


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