TROUBLE TOUR 2019-2020 A -misunderstood- II
 

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✓ 01 (40) - 2019.05.01 - CHIBA: Chiba Prefectural Cultural Hall
✓ 02 (41) - 2019.05.02 - CHIBA: Chiba Prefectural Cultural Hall
✓ 03 (42) - 2019.05.10 - KYOTO: ROHM Theatre Kyoto Main Hall
✓ 04 (43) - 2019.05.11 - AICHI: Aichi Art Center
✓ 05 (44) - 2019.05.17 - SHIZUOKA: Shizuoka City Cultural Hall Large Hall
✓ 06 (45) - 2019.05.25 - OSAKA: Festival Hall
✓ 07 (46) - 2019.05.26 - OSAKA: Festival Hall
✓ 08 (47) - 2019.06.08 - HYOGO: Kobe International Conference Center Kokusai Hall
✓ 09 (48) - 2019.06.09 - HYOGO: Kobe International Conference Center Kokusai Hall
✓ 10 (49) - 2019.06.13 - YAMAGUCHI: Shunan City Cultural Hall
✓ 11 (50) - 2019.06.14 - HIROSHIMA: Hiroshima Culture Academy HBG Hall
✓ 12 (51) - 2019.06.21 - NAGANO: Matsumoto Art Museum
✓ 13 (52) - 2019.06.28 - TOKYO: Hitomi Memorial Hall
✓ 14 (53) - 2019.06.30 - KANAGAWA: Caltz Kawasaki
✓ 15 (54) - 2019.07.04 - EHIME: Matsuyama City Hall
✓ 16 (55) - 2019.07.13 - CHIBA: Ichikawa City Culture Hall
✓ 17 (56) - 2019.07.14 - CHIBA: Ichikawa City Culture Hall
✓ 18 (57) - 2019.07.19 - SHIZUOKA: Act City Hamamatsu University Hall
✓ 19 (58) - 2019.07.30 - KANAGAWA: Sagami Women's University Green Hall
✓ 20 (59) - 2019.08.08 - OITA: Iichiko Gran Siata
✓ 21 (60) - 2019.08.09 - MIYAZAKI: Miyazaki Citizen's Culture Hall
✓ 22 (61) - 2019.08.16 - MIYAGI: Sendai Sun Plaza Hall
✓ 23 (62) - 2019.08.17 - IWATE: Oshu City Culture Center Z Hall
✓ 24 (63) - 2019.08.18 - YAMAGATA: Shelter Nanyang Hall
• 25 (64) - 2020.02.20 - SAITAMA: Misato City Cultural Hall
• 26 (65) - 2020.02.21 - SAITAMA: Misato City Cultural Hall
• 27 (66) - 2020.02.29 - AICHI: Nagoya International Conference Center Century Hall
• 28 (67) - 2020.03.01 - AICHI: Nagoya International Conference Center Century Hall
• 29 (68) - 2020.03.19 - FUKUSHIMA: Koriyama City Cultural Center
• 30 (69) - 2020.03.21 - AOMORI: Link Station Hall Aomori
• 31 (70) - 2020.03.30 - OKAYAMA: Kurashiki City Hall
• 32 (71) - 2020.03.31 - HIROSHIMA: Hiroshima Culture Academy HBG Hall
• 33 (72) - 2020.04.04 - OSAKA: Festival Hall
• 34 (73) - 2020.04.05 - OSAKA: Festival Hall
• 35 (74) - 2020.04.11 - KYOTO: ROHM Theatre Kyoto
• 36 (75) - 2020.04.12 - KYOTO: ROHM Theatre Kyoto
• 37 (76) - 2020.04.18 - ISHIKAWA: Kanazawa Opera Theater
• 38 (77) - 2020.04.19 - TOYAMA: Toyama Aubade Hall
• 39 (78) - 2020.05.02 - GUNMA: Beishia Culture Hall
• 40 (79) - 2020.05.03 - GUNMA: Beishia Culture Hall
• 41 (80) - 2020.05.09 - YAMANASHI: YCC Prefectural Culture Hall
• 42 (81) - 2020.05.10 - YAMANASHI: YCC Prefectural Culture Hall
• 43 (82) - 2020.05.13 - HYOGO: Kobe International Conference Center Kokusai Hall
• 44 (83) - 2020.05.14 - HYOGO: Kobe International Conference Center Kokusai Hall
• 45 (84) - 2020.06.02 - Tokyo: Tokyo International Forum Hall A
• 46 (85) - 2020.06.03 - Tokyo: Tokyo International Forum Hall A
• 47 (86) - 2020.06.12 - Mie: Yokkaichi City Cultural Hall 1st Hall
• 48 (87) - 2020.06.13 - Gifu: Nagaragawa Convention Center Main Hall
• 49 (88) - 2020.06.20 - Niigata: Niigata Civic Hall
• 50 (89) - 2020.06.27 - Wakayama: Wakayama Prefectural Cultural Hall, Large Hall
• 51 (90) - 2020.06.28 - Shiga: Shiga Lake Biwa Hall Large Hall
• 52 (91) - 2020.07.04 - Yamagata: Shin Yamagata Prefectural Hall
• 53 (92) - 2020.07.05 - Miyagi: Tokyo Electron Hall Miyagi
• 54 (93) - 2020.07.18 - Tokushima: Naruto City Cultural Hall
• 55 (94) - 2020.07.19 - Kagawa: Sunport Hall Takamatsu
• 56 (95) - 2020.07.23 - Shizuoka: Shizuoka City Cultural Hall
• 57 (96) - 2020.07.26 - Fukuoka: Kurume City Plaza The Grand Hall
• 58 (97) - 2020.07.27 - Fukuoka: Kurume City Plaza The Grand Hall
• 59 (98) - 2020.08.07 - Kagoshima: Kagoshima Civic Culture Hall Daiichi
• 60 (99) - 2020.08.08 - Kumamoto: Kumamoto Castle Hall
• 61 (100) - 2020.08.15 - Okinawa: Okinawa Convention Center Theater
• 62 (101) - 2020.08.16 - Okinawa: Okinawa Convention Center Theater



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First thread: http://ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124453
Tour goods: http://ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124502

Thank you for the update :)

Can we still consider this as Ayu in anniversary mode, like Po^3 was?

^ In my opinion, yes.

If this is the case (I agree with you):

Every song performed during the 20th anni celebration




A Song for ××: 4/15
LOVEppears: 7/15
Duty: 5/11
I AM...: 7/14
RAINBOW: 8/13
Memorial Address: 7/8
MY STORY: 7/14
(miss)understood: 8/14
Secret: 7/11
GUILTY: 3/10
NEXT LEVEL: 7/10
Rock'n'Roll Circus: 4/12
Love Songs: 5/12
Five: 4/5
Party Queen: 3/11
Love again: 4/13
Colours 5/10
A One: 5/12
Sixxxxxx: 0/6
M(a)de in Japan: 6/9
Trouble: 5/5

Sixxxxxx: 0/6 <-- Surprise *shook*

^I would like to have at least a Step by Step live xD

I would love to see Sorrow again. That song is <3

I would love to see the whole sixxxx being performed tbh. I think is a really great EP. I want a "Shape of Love" live!! (Did she ever performed this song?)

^ Shape of Love is a masterpiece and deserves more love. :weep I actually love every song on sixxxxxx.

Think she performed it at a TA tour (not sure which one).
I also love sixxxxxx and would love for her to sing some of the songs again. :heart

No she hasn't sung it before. Besides Shape of love I also do want a live version of Sky high. I think this song is really suitable to be the ending for her concert.

^ Hasn‘t she sang Sky high along with Summer diary and winter diary during MIT CDL?

^Sadly no, I think she performed Step by step at one of the TA lives?

She performed that song at AT15 encore.

It's ok, we can see the pattern.

TROUBLE TOUR ~Secret~
TROUBLE TOUR ~GUILTY~
TROUBLE TOUR ~NEXT LEVEL~
TROUBLE TOUR ~Circus~
TROUBLE TOUR ~Love Songs again~
TROUBLE TOUR ~Five Party Queens~
Colourful Trouble Tour
A One of Trouble Tour ~Sixxxxxx~

We will have her performing songs from sixxxxxx again.

I'd love a performance of Sayonara!

Shape of love really deserves more love, alongside What is forever love <3

I'm still confused, does this tour have anything to do with (miss)understood the album or not? Because at first, I thought no but the setlist kind of says yes... so did she not spell the tour correctly after the album title because of a specific reason? And if this is a TROUBLE tour, why only 2 songs from the album itself?

Asking important questions. I'd like to know that too.

She performed it with spexial at a-nation 2015.08.22. The video is probably somewhere on AHS. If not, feel free to PM me.

YAS at the love for Shape of love, one of my favorite songs and part of my infamous holy trinity, I love y'all and really REALLY hope she sings it someday.

Shape of Love is one of my faves too, it would be gold in an acoustic section!

The setlist would slay if she swapped W for Will.

Mentioning Kuu's new tour of recycling old concepts to justify ayu's recycling is meaningless. At least Kuu this time is telling us she is really going to recycle old stuffs. However starting from Jtb Tour every time ayu was saying something like “It must be different from the past tour” “I'm keep moving forward for this new show” “A new stage would be built from zero”, but after attending the show you found she is still recycling old materials.

When did she tell this?

You can find those wordings out from these pages: https://avex.jp/ayu/live/
Those I quoted are from Jtb Tour, POM 2018 and POWER of A^3.

Did I hear Ayu vs Kumi Drama?... I'm all here for it! :roflmao

This!

And.. someone in kumi's thread said the Ku's concert idea was very original (and it is tho) and just as a joke, I thought that I should reply: Well... if you don't count ayu's tours where she keeps recycling E V E R Y T H I N G since I don't know what year :roflmao But there are very sensitive fans around here... :D

OMG DRAMA ALERT.

I am ready for the tea.

She should’ve worn this to MET gala. Lol
But the short tie is redundant

That new outfit is really cool and refreshing!

I love it!

Love this!! Interesting and refreshing outfit <3

Not a huge fan of those shoulders, it makes her head look so tiny, but the rest is awesome. Love that she added the Gucci belt.

Why is nobody discussing new setlist? :-)
Today's changes:
Sorrows after HEAVEN
Encore:
SURREAL
evolution
Boys& Girls
Thank u

The way I am was cut.
poker face was replaced by voyage

Source: Mixi.

So...is this a trouble that we have only one song from Trouble?

Didn't someone here wished she would sing Sorrows again? So your wish has been granted :D
Sad to see that she did cut The way I am, I like this song and it's one of my favourites on Trouble. Hoping that she might add it again but I kinda doubt it

Two outfits have been replaced. Encore wearing Betty shirt for a while and threw
To lucky fans for free

Where exactly did you find the setlist? I just went on the website and as someone who cant read japanese i have no idea where to go.
So she replaced the poker face video with a real performance of Voyage?

These changes are kind of interesting though. Specifically the encore, surreal, evolution, boys and girls and then thank you. Feels like an actual thank you for some reason. Not that ayu will retire but thank you for holding on thus far. This is me trying to analyze this misunderstood tea. Periodt:P

It would be interesting to see how the show will change until she finally settles for something and then change it again for the CDL.

OMG OMG OMG SORROWS

I feel like she is secretly watching our conversation here.
We talked about B&G and talked about songs from sixxxxxxxxxxx
and then the list is changed...

Not happening the first time tho.

Love the outfit!!!

https://mixi.jp/view_bbs.pl?comm_id=1829&id=89356899
The person who wrote the setlist didn't clarify, but I think Voyage was just a video.

I like the outfit too but I think the shoulders are too puffy. It actually looks like something Seiko Matsuda may have worn in the 80s.:think

^that's why I love it :laugh

I’m getting a sailor vibe from the outfit. Absolutely love it! So refreshing to see her in a costume so amazing like that. It’s reminiscent of her past epic tours and shows. I hope she has more costumes as fabulous as that

^ Yes! It got me Concert Tour 2000 vibes lol

I think from now on we will see a lot of little changes in the tour. Probably in the two first dates she and the team didn't had enough time to prepare new stuff so it was very A^3-like. Can't wait to see the new outfits!

I believe that in order to get the budget for the changes in the new tours, she will reuse the outfit and the setlist from POA3. After 1-2 months, the setlist and outfits will be changed to be more unique.

I'd have loved her to actually perform poker face.

After she was really struggling with it during CDL a couple of years ago, I'd say she'd better avoid it or lip sync like in A Best Live.

Or change the key and use backing track. Could work.
Just not using her cute voice, but actually singing in a pleasent key for her now.

I'd like to see her do a full version of poker face. Seems that she never has sung the whole song except in Secret Live 1999?

yeah she sings it without the cute voice in TA LIVE TOUR 2003 and A MUSEUM but it's only short versions. I'd love to see her performing a full version nowadays too.

The setlist was the same yesterday. It was dancer Hikaru's birthday and the audience was asked in advance to be prepared to sing "happy birthday to you", then the photo was taken. It was confirmed that Voyage is just a video and everyone is singing along.

OMG I would love for her to perform Will again.

Will is one of my all-time favourites.

The room looks huge.

Need to have someone to cover the laundry machine, and Timmy has too much white makeup on... on dear.. he looks like dead meat.

^ I thought of “It” (the movie) when I saw him in the pic 🙈

Sorrows

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_ZY...Wl6vDB9H8/view

OMG!!! Thanks a lot for this
from what date this recording is?

God, I love Sorrows

Thanks a lot! The outfit reminds me of AT2016 during BRILLANTE, Mad World and Endless Sorrow.

Thanks!

Thanks! Love Sorrows. She looks gorgeous in the video.

Thank you! Wow, the audio quality of your phone's recording is really good.

ayu voice is good, despite is the a day after kyoto.

Thanks @ junshen. She was good.

Its Nagoya show 5.11
I got other songs too, but felt bad to record it secretly... just for you guy to hear her sound is quite good these days.

Thanks for sharing and she sounds good! Glad you seem to have enjoyed the show :)

Thank you very much for the snippet! : D
However I think her voice is still definitely far from being good...

I love Sorrows, and I'm really glad she's performing it again. The Limited TA Live performance of this song is one of my all time favorites.

^ Sorrows TA tour version is amazing.

I dream that she preforms "kanariya" in lower register, acapella version.

Sorrows sounds good. new outfit?

thank you for this! excellent audio quality and you had a perfect view of her :luv2

please please gods I just want her to maintain this voice quality throughout the tour :yes

Is anyone going to the one in Hiroshima? I always go alone and would love a change.

The first half of Sorrows was good, but the second half of Sorrows (after 0:55)... was... awful...

I don’t think ayu can hear herself when she hits higher notes. So she screams without realizing. :/

+1 🥺

i didnt think it was THAT bad. She didnt hit the last note of each chorus line as usual because she tends to just shout that word out out of dramatism. but she was on pitch for the most part

It's the way ayu sings and while its imperfect I enjoy it.

Sorry to post here, the thread is close for CDL 2018-2019
WOWOW version camera angle will board cast this week .
A preview is also available

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lDn...zNh7JZQW1/view

^ Thanks! It looks really good and shows what slight angle changes (love the view of the whole stage with W car in the middle) and proper editing can do. Looking forward to seeing the whole thing :)

Right, edited Ayu is the only way to listen to these days.

She sounded okay to me for most of the concert. By proper editing I mean obviously fix her here and there but also simply mix audio in the right way etc.

I think it is less about her hearing and more the health of her voice.

It sounds damaged and has for a while. And it just gets more damaged as she goes. It would explain her rough tone these days even on the Trouble album recordings.

I think sometimes people get into "yelling" instead of appropriate technique when they try to sing outside of their comfortable range or are struggling to push notes within their range out due to a strained voice. Unfortunately the yelling just worsens the problem.

Really she would maybe need to take some time to train her voice to be comfortable in different ranges as well as handle the amount she sings but it would be even harder now since it sounds so far gone sometimes.

I'm not a professional vocalist, so I dont spend as much time looking into these things (so dont take this post too seriously). But I've always been curious to hear what one thinks regarding ayu's issues.

It seemed around 2014 or 2015 (or whenever cirque de minuit was) she was using more appropriate breathing and singing technique. Some people said she sounded less emotional, but I think she was just trying to exercise control and reduce strain. Far from perfect still even then.

I'm sure the hearing has an impact but I think there is much more going on. And sometimes it's sad to hear like in this Sorrows recording

^ As someone who is currently studying this and has gone through similar problems (thankfully the more severe ear problems were temporary for me, but I still have some on-going ear problems) I'm gonna put out some theory/technical stuff based on my experience, but I'm not a professional or expert, just studying...

Songs are a finite number of pitches placed in a pattern (in this case the melody line). For example, in Western music you have a maximum of 11 notes or 12 if you count the octave note (yes, the octave notes are different frequencies, but they are all on the same frequency line so technically it's the same thing, just a certain multiple higher or lower) and songs are a matter of memorizing and ingraining the pattern. As long as she can hear and match pitches (and she definitely can), she should, in theory, be able to sing the songs just fine, as long as she has memorized the song properly, because pitches are relative to a single reference pitch. If the band is playing on key with no mistakes, that's all the reference one should need. That's in theory. If she starts on the correct note or can get back to a correct note, all the other notes that follow are in the order dictated by the pattern, but related back to that single reference point. This assumes that she ingrained the songs properly. If she didn't learn the songs properly at the beginning, it could also be that years of bad ingraining makes it hard for her to unlearn the wrong or unsure pitches in her muscle memory (and use the reference instead of relying on habit/muscle memory or guessing), which is compounded by her compromised hearing, because even if she goes off, if she can listen and match a correct note, she can use that as the reference. Then we have to add in the mechanics of her voice, which sounds very overworked. This is also a big part of the problem. If the machine is not functioning/maintained correctly, it can falter whether you have ear/pitch problems or not.

You are absolutely correct that poor technique makes the problems worse, better technique will help. It's not so easy to break habits though, and nerves tend to make people rely on old habits. She sounded good during Cirque de Minuit, I believe she was working with a vocal teacher at that time. It made a huge difference. I think she has been attempting to fix her technique or at least not scream as much. She's definitely improved since 2017/early 2018 and I think she's making some effort, but the best thing probably is to get a vocal coach like in 2014/2015. Another thing that could factor in is distractions. If she has distracting thoughts or something happens to pull her out of her "zone", it can disrupt her flow and cause her to lose her place in the pattern or to lose her reference point temporarily. If she's having ear/balance problems, not only can it mess up hearing, but ears popping and balance issues that come from it is a major distraction. But Ayu could also have other problems we are not aware of that could be having an impact on her singing as well.

Anyway, this is just based on the method I've been studying recently and I am certainly not an authority or expert of the subject, feel free to correct me if I've made a mistake in the technical details so I can learn. But the technique for memorization, breathing support and vocalization combined with her physical "instrument" are the most important parts of a good vocal performance.

Sorrows→NEVER EVER

thanks for the update junshen, but: ah shit.

It seems that song would be the repeatitive song in the final day.

99% sure In The Corner and Don't look back will be ditched on the filming date.

not sure about In The Corner, since it's opening, but Don't look back can go easily

I think don’t look back will survive. Since the 5 big mirrors performance seems
Made for the performance.

Yesasia has listed a few goods.
I'm debating if I should order from them, for "just the beggining" tour I waited a month for them to tell me that they no longer had the product in stock. And yet they still kept the listing up for a while.

Thanks for sharing that - I thought that was interesting.

What you've described however - and that's what *I'm* getting from it, and I could be wrong - is that this sounds like the recipe you need if you wanted to end up with singers who sound *exactly* the same live as they do on their album, and that's *boring*. Celine Dion, for one, is guilty of that, to an extreme.

I call her a singing robot--she hits all the right notes at all the right times, but it gets perhaps so rigid there's no room left for any of the subtleties you'd expect to come from emotions that might swell up when someone's singing. Half the fun in going to concerts, to me, is seeing how an artist might make some changes here and there, have a different take on a song, or shed a tear perhaps because the lyrics for a song are so personal to them. A performance that's "too polished" to me comes across as void of emotion, and the artist is just going through the motions rather than pouring his or her heart into it.

Of course you have the other end of the spectrum as well. Ayu's technique is so off these days I feel that she needs to "re-learn" how to sing, she needs to re-learn those basic techniques, especially in conjunction with the conditions that she now has to deal with. As much as I love her and want her to continue to have a great career, I'm one of those who agrees she needs to take a break.

As someone abroad who can't see those live broadcasts and have to rely on those who record and then post them...it got me thinking.

It's kinda sad that Ayu's label is not putting out those concerts for purchase on disc anymore--I currently own them all and would be more than happy to keep buying them. After I've finally caught up a few years ago with everything she had put out...I'm finding I still have this itch I have to scratch. In other words, Avex, please take my money.

If someone's willing to put up the money to edit these recordings for a one-time rebroadcast - why not put up the money to produce the discs? I can't honestly claim to know how they make the money back when they edit a concert for rebroadcasting back once. Is it even worth it? From my perspective this is where the costly hard work is - so that's already done. Is there really so little return for a physical package that it's not worth taking the final step and putting it on disc, producing a box, marketing and distributing it?

Maybe Avex wants quality rather than quantity and can no longer justify making the elaborate releases they used to have, or promote them as much. Surely they can still put *something* out at a lower cost. Just thinking out loud.