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AJFmzk 28th July 2019 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3304016)
Merchandising, yeap. She herself said she makes most of her money from selling tour goodies nowadays.

DVD sales, show broadcast? Those are most likely there to please fans than to make money. I'm pretty positive her DVD sales mean pretty much money loss nowadays.

Agreed. Who knows if they’ll even release a dvd of this countdown live...they didn’t for the last couple CDL/Tours which means dvd sales are probably not much of a moneymaker if at all anymore. It’s now down to merch and ticket sales if Avex wants to make money off the tours.

~angel*ayumi~ 28th July 2019 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ExodusUK (Post 3304298)
Isn't this the 20th anniversary of CDL, right? Shame Ayu/Avex doesn't feel like celebrating her landmarks at all in recent years.

The first CDL was 2000-2001, so no it isn´t the 20th Anniversary

Irish_Ayu_Fan 28th July 2019 05:36 PM

Hi guys, does anyone know roughly how far in advance one should join TA to be on time for the lottery? Not 100% sure if I’ll be in Tokyo for New Year’s yet...

Aderianu 28th July 2019 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Irish_Ayu_Fan (Post 3304330)
Hi guys, does anyone know roughly how far in advance one should join TA to be on time for the lottery? Not 100% sure if I’ll be in Tokyo for New Year’s yet...

I'll say - at the end of September

freedreamer 29th July 2019 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ~angel*ayumi~ (Post 3304310)
The first CDL was 2000-2001, so no it isn´t the 20th Anniversary

if the 1st was 2000-2001, then the 20th would be 2019-2020 no? Did she skip a year?

~angel*ayumi~ 29th July 2019 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by freedreamer (Post 3304353)
if the 1st was 2000-2001, then the 20th would be 2019-2020 no? Did she skip a year?

2017-2018 there was no CDL
She had a concert on that day from JTB Tour but it was no CDL, it was normal concert

thinkingoutloud89 29th July 2019 11:20 AM

^there is a difference between 20th Anniversary and the 20th CDL. Skipping a year does not mean it wasn't 20 years ago that the first CDL was held.

Party_King 29th July 2019 11:56 AM

^ but her 10th and 20th Anniversary were on 8.4.2008 and 8.4.2018. Her first Single was released on 8.4.1998...
So, her first CDL was 2000-2001 and CDL‘s 20th Anniversary will be 2020-2021.
BTW they also didn‘t celebrate the 10th Anniversary of CDL (2010-2011).

thinkingoutloud89 29th July 2019 12:10 PM

^yeah, i don't even care. Was just saying. But it would still be 2019-2020 if there would have been one every year.

1. 00-01
2. 01-02
3. 02-03
4. 03-04
5. 04-05
6. 05-06
7. 06-07
8. 07-08
9. 08-09
10. 09-10
11. 10-11
12. 11-12
13. 12-13
14. 13-14
15. 14-15
16. 15-16
17. 16-17
18. 17-18
19. 18-19
20. 19-20

Party_King 29th July 2019 01:28 PM

^ no, it would be the 20th CDL but not the 20th Anniversary of CDL. :)

metropass 29th July 2019 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Party_King (Post 3304370)
^ no, it would be the 20th CDL but not the 20th Anniversary of CDL. :)

Random but this discussion about 20th CDL or 20th anniversary of CDL somehow reminds me how the word “anniversary” was used for the celebration of Name Amuro's 500th concert...

AJFmzk 29th July 2019 07:16 PM

I don’t remember them acknowledging Namie’s 10th or 15th anniversary, so all of this anniversary stuff is probably more a marketing thing than being associated with a solid date or numerical anniversary. Eg Ayu’s 20th anniversary lasted 2.5 years

thinkingoutloud89 29th July 2019 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Party_King (Post 3304370)
^ no, it would be the 20th CDL but not the 20th Anniversary of CDL. :)

why? you count the first one as the first year. so its exactly 20 years of CDL.
20 is a weird number for an anniversary anyways.

Party_King 29th July 2019 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud89 (Post 3304382)
why? you count the first one as the first year. so its exactly 20 years of CDL.

No, you don’t. It’s the same with your age. You don’t count the actual day of your birth as your 1st birthday/anniversary.
With you idea of anniversaries, ayu‘s 10th anniversary would’ve been on April, 8th 2007 (or her 20th on April, 8th 2017).

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Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud89 (Post 3304382)
20 is a weird number for an anniversary anyways.

Absolutely right :)

Andrenekoi 29th July 2019 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AJFmzk (Post 3304378)
I don’t remember them acknowledging Namie’s 10th or 15th anniversary, so all of this anniversary stuff is probably more a marketing thing than being associated with a solid date or numerical anniversary. Eg Ayu’s 20th anniversary lasted 2.5 years

One of my marketing teachers said that the easiest way to create a campaign was to make up any anniversary to celebrate :P

AJFmzk 30th July 2019 03:14 AM

^ Haha yes! I totally agree, and hey, it got me to see her live for PoM 20th (ok, I was a little deceived thinking there would be a full orchestra like PoM2011, but I still loved it!)

Andrenekoi 30th July 2019 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AJFmzk (Post 3304387)
^ Haha yes! I totally agree, and hey, it got me to see her live for PoM 20th (ok, I was a little deceived thinking there would be a full orchestra like PoM2011, but I still loved it)

I actually really loved the narrative they built for that show throuh music and the nod to the BRILLANTE performance.

Chris85 30th July 2019 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud89 (Post 3304382)
20 is a weird number for an anniversary anyways.

It's not. It's a huge number that should be celebrated.

thinkingoutloud89 30th July 2019 05:47 PM

^but 25 is usually the number you celebrate.

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Originally Posted by Party_King (Post 3304383)
No, you don’t. It’s the same with your age. You don’t count the actual day of your birth as your 1st birthday/anniversary.
With you idea of anniversaries, ayu‘s 10th anniversary would’ve been on April, 8th 2007 (or her 20th on April, 8th 2017).


Absolutely right :)

no its not. "Bauhaus" celebrated 100 years this year, opening in 1919 up until 2019.
Same goes for Ayu herself. A COMPLETE was her 10th Anni Celebration, released in 2018, 10 years after her debut in 1998.

Earth_maiden 30th July 2019 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud89 (Post 3304410)
^but 25 is usually the number you celebrate.

Since the legal age of adulthood in Japan is 20, maybe they just feel more affinity with the number 20? :laugh


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