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Dustie 16th October 2005 02:28 PM

How is Ayumi copying Madonna?...
 
i know many people say that many times, but they give barely any examples of where/when/how/what Ayumi suppousedly copies from Madonna...

there was a thread about a band S.H.E copying Ayumi's PV "GAME" and one user posted examples of how is Ayumi copying Madonna -- but obviously i can't find that thread now...

as of what i remember:
"Happy Ending" from Arena Tour 2005 dress/performance is almost the same as in one of Madonna's tours
"Ourselves" PV dress is v. similar to a dress in one of Madonna's clips
"Dearest" PV concept is the same as in one of Madonna's clips.
"Alterna" PV white Ayumi with an eye in her mouth is v. similar to Madonna's look in one of her clips.

please correct me if i'm wrong in any of these above and explain if there are any more "copy acts" by Ayumi...

marty518 16th October 2005 03:55 PM

When Ayu puts on the long black wig, she reminds me a bit of Madonna during her "Frozen" PV. But that's really vague, because anyone can wear a long black wig :D

LiberiFatali 16th October 2005 05:18 PM

Is Ayumi a Copycat ?
 
Look at these pictures, this is truly interesting :luv2
I put up a small page to show that~

See here

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/387/100915pe.jpg
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/5...4163c2d05e.jpg
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http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/56/91110pu.jpg
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/4...5a777bef04.jpg
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/7...99aea55ae1.jpg
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/1...18cfefc1ad.jpg
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/1...2b4e541f50.jpg
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/4...7e02403ef4.jpg
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/7421/91815lg.jpg

More here
I put the credit on the webpage I made ^^

:thud

LeButler 16th October 2005 05:25 PM

As you can see, all these "Copying" threads that keep getting created on a daily basis are being merged into one or two threads to discourage their creation.

(The subject is getting rather old and often prompts angry exchanges).

elepop 16th October 2005 05:47 PM

Ayu is such a copycat, lol.

Anyway, I can see what is alike about the 2 concerts.

But the other images? Ayu and Pam? Ayu and Kylie? Gees, it's just the same pose...

Now we know how the Jolin fans feel right?

Dreamland 16th October 2005 05:49 PM

nice pictures I still like ayumi though I still see her and madonna as two totally different people even though she may have "copied" her

LeButler, do you have the original pic for your av it looks really cute

Beyond the Sea 16th October 2005 05:50 PM

Wow, Ayu really did copy Madonna, even down to the little gap in her teeth ^__^

But serioulsy, those are mostly just coincidences

ImpactBreaker 16th October 2005 05:55 PM

LOL The most common thing I can notice in each of the pics compared is that ayu always look much better than the others LOL :laugh

Dreamland 16th October 2005 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker
LOL The most common thing I can notice in each of the pics compared is that ayu always look much better than the others LOL :laugh

amen to that

*Petit* 16th October 2005 06:05 PM

what's more interesting is who's behind the artistic ideas, because neither madonna nor AYumi make everything themselves. =P Perhaps some of their emplyees have similar education or something like that. :P

elepop 16th October 2005 06:11 PM

I don't believe the Toxic V.S walking proud thing. I mean, come on! What about J.Lo's "Waiting for tonight"? Or "kanariya". Same for All I Have V.S No Way to say... WTF? Especially Ayu's MY STORY and Xtina's Calender.. HAHA!

Oh both J.Lo and Ayu have pigtails! Scandal!

Ayu's and Madonna's concert are obviously alike. But when it comes to the CM or magazine shoot, that's not copying.

gogirlanime 16th October 2005 06:40 PM

Yeah, I always knew, but it doesn't bother me cuz I love both Madonna and Ayu, and Ayu is kinda like Madonna's remix, so it's refreshing, I dunno how to say it.

MsMiyabi 16th October 2005 06:41 PM

Ok Ayumi is copying Madonna So what ?? What is the big deal?? That is her Idol remember ? So of course she is going to try to be like her in some ways. I think you guys are over reacting. Just like the Ayumi and Jolin thing

ayu_ayu301 16th October 2005 07:08 PM

it's just a REALLY bias way of trying to prove things .. don't get me wrong as trying to bash on the thread ..

take for example:
Ayumi's Walking Proud vs. Britney Toxic, we could easily take Ayu's Kanariya (which pre-dates Toxic a lot) as proof that Britney copied her if we wants to .. it's just one use colorful rocks while one use silver ...

it seem that that author of those pictures just try to find similar clothings with same poses and since Madonna came out long long ago, most of her materials will pre-date Ayu for sure .. plus not to mention Madonna seems to use a lot of Japanese clothings, so Ayu will bound to run into them during her life of massive appearances ...

tinyppl 16th October 2005 08:27 PM

I just realise how I love looking at such topics. It's really interesting to simply just look at the similarities. I do agree that ayu's stuff ain't totally original though the person who made the images got things abit too far with some pics that are just mere coincidental similar poses.

But it's cool in such a way that ayu or her designers are able to make the copied stuff look better. Quality work indeed.

MsMiyabi 16th October 2005 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_ayu301
it's just a REALLY bias way of trying to prove things .. don't get me wrong as trying to bash on the thread ..

take for example:
Ayumi's Walking Proud vs. Britney Toxic, we could easily take Ayu's Kanariya (which pre-dates Toxic a lot) as proof that Britney copied her if we wants to .. it's just one use colorful rocks while one use silver ...

it seem that that author of those pictures just try to find similar clothings with same poses and since Madonna came out long long ago, most of her materials will pre-date Ayu for sure .. plus not to mention Madonna seems to use a lot of Japanese clothings, so Ayu will bound to run into them during her life of massive appearances ...

Japanese Clothes? Are you looking at the pictures above right ??

elepop 16th October 2005 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinyppl
I just realise how I love looking at such topics. It's really interesting to simply just look at the similarities. I do agree that ayu's stuff ain't totally original though the person who made the images got things abit too far with some pics that are just mere coincidental similar poses.

But it's cool in such a way that ayu or her designers are able to make the copied stuff look better. Quality work indeed.

Agreed! :yes

PickleCookies 16th October 2005 09:07 PM

In 2001, Above & Beyond remixed "What it Feels Like for a Girl" by Madonna and the music video was done to that remix.
That same year, Above & Beyond remixed "M" by Ayumi Hamasaki and a PV was done to that remix.

Raleigh 16th October 2005 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asongforXX
Ayu is such a copycat, lol.

Anyway, I can see what is alike about the 2 concerts.

But the other images? Ayu and Pam? Ayu and Kylie? Gees, it's just the same pose...

Now we know how the Jolin fans feel right?


Heh that's true. I do think it is kind of ridiculous. The most I can say is she was inspired by them.

zeroshin888 16th October 2005 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk
Heh that's true. I do think it is kind of ridiculous. The most I can say is she was inspired by them.

lol, well said! I was going to say something like that.
Also for like the poses of like covers of the singles and such.. er.. I don't think that they're Ayu's ideas I mean.. if they were, she wouldnt need to hire anyone for photoshoots and such besides a photographer..
Basically I'm just saying it's not Ayu that's being the "copy cat", it might just be the people who proposed the ideas that are copying... :D


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