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tomoko-stepyou 1st January 2006 02:17 AM

Ladies Night+can ayu speak english?
 
Hey. I recently watched the PV for ladies night, and the bit in english is spoken really well. Is that actually Ayu saying that?
Also, alot of the time she's speaking a little english. Does that mean she speaks English?
I hope she brings her music over here!

BTW, Does anyone have the lyrics/translation of Ladies Night? Or even what she was saying. Something along the lines of...

.......... Hate it, but even so, you don't ever need to think you have failed.

I dunno what she ways saying, the bass played over it!

evolution105 1st January 2006 02:24 AM

She doesn't speak fluent english. if you watch her concerts you just hear say "sank you" "come on!" "here we go". and if my memory corrects me someone said that wasnt her speaking in the video.. There is a translation of the song somewhere here but I don't think the rap part is included.

bulmasman 1st January 2006 03:33 AM

I think she speaks a littel english. Mostly just polite phrases etc... (she thanks the people in her Bold & Delicious pv) but i think i read somewhere that she herself said her english isn't good. For example when she had her vocal training etc... in new york before her debut she didn't actually speak any english to anyone or even leave her appartment/room much. She had a handler who did everything for her, including getting food etc.. so i wouldn't be surprised if her english was sub par.

I do remember her speaking on the mtv asia awards a few years back where i believe she said "Thankyou everybody, i love you all" after her performance.

However, even if ayu was fluent in english, i doubt she'd have success on western shores. Look at Utada for example. Exodus was a good album, but it's success (or lack of as is the case) just goes to show that sadly, asian artist have very little crossover appeal. I also believe utada's music is much more suited to a western market than ayu's, so if she can't succeed i really can't see ayu managing it.

It's a sad truth :(

Baernash 1st January 2006 03:46 AM

Check here:
http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37962
(English part in Ladys Night)

devilayu 1st January 2006 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulmasman
I think she speaks a littel english. Mostly just polite phrases etc... (she thanks the people in her Bold & Delicious pv) but i think i read somewhere that she herself said her english isn't good. For example when she had her vocal training etc... in new york before her debut she didn't actually speak any english to anyone or even leave her appartment/room much. She had a handler who did everything for her, including getting food etc.. so i wouldn't be surprised if her english was sub par.

Haha, you read that here because I was the one who translated the talk where she mentioned that stuff! ^_^

I really don't think she's at all near fluent in English. If you watch the making of B&D, she doesn't say a word of English to the make-up artist who was joking with Ayumi the whole time (I think she was laughing because of his gestures and not at what he was saying). Whether or not she is good at pronouncing the few words she knows is pointless, too. For example, the group Soulhead is amazingly good at pronouncing English (they sound fluent) but I recently found out that they don't speak English at all.

PURIN 1st January 2006 08:08 PM

i watched the making videos on my dvd and she does say SO CUTTEEE about marron to someone, and she does say THANK YOU GUYS in the bold and delicious PV

however i think it is noted that ayu didnt rap the english parts, if you look at the credit pamphlet, it says VOVOCAL (something like that) and has some girls name

~Amy~ 1st January 2006 08:15 PM

I don't think so, I think she can probably speak english fluently by now. She has said so many things in english. Even in the Bold & Delcious PV she says "Thank you! Thank you guys!" She even sang in english last year "White Christmas" right? And I could understand what she was singing, and she has all english titles for her songs except a few like Hanabi, and she puts english in her songs.
Well that's just my opinion, I don't know for sure weather she can speak it fluently or not. >.<

MsMiyabi 1st January 2006 08:22 PM

She doesn't speak english but atleast she tries. Which I think is progress and maybe she can even master the language

Raleigh 1st January 2006 08:42 PM

True. I don't think she's fluent with English but she has some sort of background for this language. Maybe some day she'll eventually master English.

[AHS]MortalSex 1st January 2006 09:08 PM

well, on her way through her career I think she´ve learned more or less phrases but I don´t think she can speak fluent english =)

Ryoko 1st January 2006 09:13 PM

It doesn't sound like Ayu speaking in Ladies Night. I think it's someone else. I'm sure she knows some English (from school) but doesn't get to apply it often. I'm sure she's not fluent, but she does know a good amount.

lotusoka 1st January 2006 09:17 PM

In the video she was singing it... usually artists don't sing a part that is only backup when filmed, no?

Ryoko 1st January 2006 10:42 PM

She was saying it, but it doesn't sound like her voice at all.

Catzi 1st January 2006 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulmasman
I do remember her speaking on the mtv asia awards a few years back where i believe she said "Thankyou everybody, i love you all" after her performance.

However, even if ayu was fluent in english, i doubt she'd have success on western shores. Look at Utada for example. Exodus was a good album, but it's success (or lack of as is the case) just goes to show that sadly, asian artist have very little crossover appeal. I also believe utada's music is much more suited to a western market than ayu's, so if she can't succeed i really can't see ayu managing it.

It's a sad truth :(

I do remember that she looked rather confused when Mandy Moore was speaking to her.

And Exodue most likely didn't succeed because there wasn't a lot of publicity for the album. If it was like Britney Spears who had her face everywhere when her album came out then it might have been successful.

free_n_easy_cher 2nd January 2006 02:58 AM

I thought I remembered reading somewhere that Ayu was learning how to speak English - But I think that was from a few years back, so maybe she knows more than we think she does :o

JesA 2nd January 2006 03:43 AM

the only english ive heard her speak, is Someday My Prince Will Come, White Christmas, "thank you guys", "put yur hands", "c'mon c'mon c'mon!", and "ok"

Ayumi no Yume 2nd January 2006 03:51 AM

MAN you people.
She can speak english.
If you look online or do research, MOST JAPANESE CAN SPEAK ENGLISH - maybe not PERFECT, FLUENT english, but english.

Her concerts are no proof. She uses a Japanese accent because she's talking to a JAPANESE crowd.

If most Japanese know ENGLISH, why wouldn't Japan's most famous/best selling artist not know english?!

Anyways...It says all the time - Ayu writes her own lyrics.
Verdict: then who the hell wrote Real Me?
Ayu maybe? Hm...let me think about it.

EDIT:..........errm..I seem to be in a mood today, scuse me.
Anyways, there's your point.

~Amy~ 2nd January 2006 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayumi no Yume
MAN you people.
She can speak english.
If you look online or do research, MOST JAPANESE CAN SPEAK ENGLISH - maybe not PERFECT, FLUENT english, but english.

Her concerts are no proof. She uses a Japanese accent because she's talking to a JAPANESE crowd.

If most Japanese know ENGLISH, why wouldn't Japan's most famous/best selling artist not know english?!

Anyways...It says all the time - Ayu writes her own lyrics.
Verdict: then who the hell wrote Real Me?
Ayu maybe? Hm...let me think about it.

EDIT:..........errm..I seem to be in a mood today, scuse me.
Anyways, there's your point.


Thank you! Took the words right out of my mouth! ^_^

devilayu 2nd January 2006 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayumi no Yume
MAN you people.
She can speak english.
If you look online or do research, MOST JAPANESE CAN SPEAK ENGLISH - maybe not PERFECT, FLUENT english, but english.

Her concerts are no proof. She uses a Japanese accent because she's talking to a JAPANESE crowd.

If most Japanese know ENGLISH, why wouldn't Japan's most famous/best selling artist not know english?!

Anyways...It says all the time - Ayu writes her own lyrics.
Verdict: then who the hell wrote Real Me?
Ayu maybe? Hm...let me think about it.

EDIT:..........errm..I seem to be in a mood today, scuse me.
Anyways, there's your point.

I don't know where you get your facts from, you should probably post some links. Even then, Ayumi might not be part of the majority that you speak of.

re: "Real Me" comment -- If you look in the booklet for "Rainbow", there are 3 people listed as translators. She uses two languages in that album: Japanese and English. I don't think she needs a translator for her native language so it's reasonable to assume she needed a translator for the English parts.

[edit]
I just rewatched the "Ladies Night" PV and listened to the mp3 and don't think the person doing the English part is Ayumi. She doesn't even mouth the words to the English 'rap' in the PV (if you look closely, she's just mouthing other things)

After seeing a scan of the inside booklet, the credits for "Ladies Night" credit 3 non-Japanese ladies for background vocals and a woman for the Vocoder Voice (this is the synth 'rap' part). So, Ayumi does not sing the English for sure.

ohsixthirty 3rd January 2006 08:34 PM

^that makes me sad...i thought it was ayu. :(


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